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sparked in part by destinydiva's blog entry, i've been musing on this subject for some time already. i've been meaning for some time to write a blog entry about this for at least a good half year or so. what can i say, sometimes real life intrudes. :>

as that blog entry and its comments illustrated, there's a variety of notions about what this word means, and that is only right: it's a fairly fundamental concept, the idea of intelligence, and accordingly, it makes sense that each of us would have some subjective notions associated with this.

i began as usual with the basic starting places for such blog entries. while dissatisfied with both the dictionary.com and wikipedia articles that i was able to examine, there are doubtless useful bits to be found in each.

obviously, intelligence has a meaning in the context of knowledge and/or information, such as utilized by militaries and espionage services the world over through recorded history, but this isn't the way in which i wish to examine the word today. no, i'm talking about a property of the mind, characterized in both pages as a capacity for comprehending and logic. this is the lowest common denominator i can discern between those two resources, and as such, will serve as my beginning point.

when we speak of someone being intelligent, we can obviously mean many things by that: someone who always has a different way of looking at things, someone who knows a lot, perhaps someone who reasons well or a host of other things. perhaps i'm unusual, but when i speak of intelligence, i mean several things:

exceptional capacity for understanding:
by this, i refer to the ability to comprehend both abstract ideas (e.g., imaginary numbers in algebra), as well as less ephemeral concepts (if an object costs $2.25 and i give a cashier $5, i should receive $2.75 in change). to me, someone who is intelligent can do those things more readily than the norm.

ability to absorb new information and extrapolate based upon it:
if one understands a thing, then to me, one mark of intelligence is the ability to employ that new information in some fashion. i suppose this overlaps with understanding: after all, if one understands something, one can then utilize that new knowledge. to me, this has always been part and parcel of intelligence.

these two things together then are, at least to me, native traits a person possesses. they aren’t skills, in the sense that (IMV) they are not properties one can learn and then improve upon as one might learn and then develop such as the ability to drive, or a new language, because they are about how we learn.

there’s also the concept of emotional intelligence: to wit, the ability to manage social interactions with some measure of success. and it seems to me that however intelligent we may be, the ability to deal with people is a specialized aspect of the two traits i described above, and moreover, is a skill: we learn how to deal with people successfully and constantly learn how to improve it. so while i set great store by emotional intelligence, it seems to me to be a misnomer to call it intelligence. i mean, sure, we might say someone who’s rude is an idiot, but primarily, that’s b/c we know that rudeness is a failing strategy in dealing with folks.

one way in which i’ve described intelligence previously, in discussions i’ve had previously, is to liken it to a kind of engine: “raw brainpower”, the ability to calculate and theorize. the traits i describe as being components of intelligence are to me the best ways to measure “raw brainpower”.

those are the things that intelligence means to me, but enough about me: to you, what is intelligence?



so what does intelligence mean to you? do the traits i described seem to cover it, or do the completely miss the mark? or do you find the notion of intelligence as discussed here just plain goofy? comment & let me know. :>

ed

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  • beyondtheveil said on Oct 22, 2007....
    Ed- Pardon while I repeat from destiny's blog as my view was given there. My definition was a high ability to grasp analytical skills (example math) and deep thought processes (example philosophy). I think this fits rather closely with your examples. You said absorb and extrapolate, which I take to mean the ability to take what has been learned and apply creatively on your own. It may not fit exactly with philosophy, but both are taking thought processes to a different level and philosophy was simply one  example.

    What I do not necessarily include with the definition of intelligence is wisdom and good common sense, two of which many times enter the discussion concerning intelligence. A wise and common sense person can certainly be intelligent, but they are two attributes I don't equate with raw intelligence.
  • CreativeWoman said on Oct 22, 2007....
    ed,
    I think you make a good case about what intelligence is. There are varying degrees of it though.  I'm not sure where I would fall into the scheme of things. I probably am an underachiever of sorts.  I could have gone farther with my education, etc.  Yet, that doesn't mean I have stopped having a quest for knowledge.

    Intriguing subject.

    CW
  • the_infernal_optimist said on Oct 22, 2007....
    I also think you've given intelligence a fair treatment here. I tend to mean intelligence in the first two ways you mention...emotional intelligence falls more accurately into the wisdom category, I think.

    ~Infernal
  • Expendable said on Oct 22, 2007....
    Intelligence to me is how well you learn.
  • fearing said on Oct 22, 2007....
    liked the points you made about the ability to learn and understand.  I've given this some thought - what does intelligence mean to me?  I  My first thoughts are about the children I interact with each day and how I define intelligence with them.  I always think of it as there being a light behind their eyes.  I don't know how else to describe that.

    I also think about the people I know and who I consider intelligent.  I guess information a person knows isn't that impressive to me.  I look more for the real understanding of something vs. recited facts.  But intelligence to me is more about wisdom.


  • silverwhisper said on Oct 23, 2007....
    beyond: as ever, i see we are in agreement here. we really need to find something about which we do not some time; people will talk! :>

    CW: i've never felt that formal education is meaningfully correlated to intelligence, myself. :>

    infernal: i actually agree re: emotional intelligence, although i'd also argue that empathy is also a significant component.

    ex: so for you it's expressly and exclusively the faculty for learning? could you enlarge upon that?

    fearing: hm...i have a lot to say about wisdom, which may be better addressed in its own blog entry--hey ex, maybe next i can do one about charisma? :D i dunno, to me, wisdom is a very different thing. what does wisdom mean to you, then?

    ed
  • beyondtheveil said on Oct 23, 2007....
    Ed- I've also noticed we follow similar thought patterns in all aspects of life. I feel myself in excellent company. 
  • silverwhisper said on Oct 23, 2007....
    [bows deeply]
  • fearing said on Oct 23, 2007....
    I think those would be cool posts Ed - charisma and wisdom. 
    You think wisdom is completely different than intelligence?  I'm not debating, just looking for your view.  Wisdom to me is intelligence you can't find in a book. How would you define it?
  • silverwhisper said on Oct 23, 2007....
    to me, wisdom is fundamentally about decision-making.

    for example: i'm a smoker. i know smoking is bad for me. it's a carcinogen and poses a risk to those exposed to the smoke as well. however, i consistently make the bad decision to light up, even though i'm cognizant of the dangers. i forego health for the opportunity to scratch an itch. and that makes me less wise.

    by contrast, i do tend to learn and understand concepts with a certain measure of facility, although certainly dwarfed by many people i've encountered.

    ed
  • crybabylu said on Oct 24, 2007....
    Home > Library > Words > Dictionary
    ord=Math.random()*10000000000000000; document.write(''); Click here to find out more! in·tel·li·gence (ĭn-tĕl'ə-jəns) pronunciation
    n.
      1. The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.
      2. The faculty of thought and reason.
      3. Superior powers of mind.
  • silverwhisper said on Oct 24, 2007....
    so that's the way you define it, then? or was that intended as a jumping-off point?

    ed
  • DecayedMind said on Oct 24, 2007....
    There's always Garner's multiple intelligence's theory. It more or less states that there is more than one type of intelligence. So far the theory definines eight different types.
  • silverwhisper said on Oct 25, 2007....
    welcome to my blog, decayed mind, and thank you for visting!

    as i'm not terribly familiar with the field of psychometry, i don't quite know what to think re: garner's idea. it's certainly a different way of thinking about it, and while it doesn't seem to make sense to me, perhaps i'm simply too grounded in traditional views of the subject to be able to evaluate garner's theory on its own merits, objectively.

    ed

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