• binder said on Oct 23, 2007....

  I am impressed with your appetite to please.

• controlfreak said on Oct 23, 2007....

  .YOU are the perfect slut! I thought I enjoyed collared whore's blogs but SHIT! I have fantasized about controlling and humiliating a filthy cum drenched slut like you for so long. I can never meet people like you for some reason. It really pisses me off.

• binder said on Oct 26, 2007....

  so,you have a limited time on this blog. being new to this I would hope that you would help me.

• whoreslave said on Oct 30, 2007....

  How can I help you binder? Are you having trouble with something? I'm new here too- yes... And I'm ripping this stuff out of my head and my guts by its roots and flinging it to the page when it comes to me- sometimes it comes easily, other times, I'll sit her blushing furiously and typing very hesitantly, backing up, rephrasing, deleting things I haven't worked up enough courage to say...
  
  You? Why are you here? What led you to Soul Cast?
  

• whoreslave said on Oct 30, 2007....

  Oh- ;>})  And thank you, controlfreak. High praise, in a special, sick, demented way. *lol*   And you probably DO meet them in real life. Hell, you MIGHT even know me! The purest of people walk around with this kind of filth in their heads, but they're too afraid of the consequences of letting it out, even into conscious thought. That's the very point- Even as a life-style slave, I'm afraid of some of these things. Anonymity... it's a miraculous liberator!
  
  But my advice? Start out right at the beginning when you're getting close enough to a gal to fuck her, (whether that's on first meeting, or weeks later...) with leering looks. Let her catch you. Whisper some filth and see how she responds. You might well be surprised. A simple whisper of "I'm gonna fuck you til you scream..." will get me panting like a bitch in heat.
  

• swordsman said on Nov 01, 2007....

  I agree with you, porn where the slut is smiling and enjoying herself is not erotic..... She has to suffer, endure, know that she is being used and humiliated like a true whore.....

• whoreslave said on Nov 01, 2007....

  I can't speak for anyone but myself in this. But if she's smiling and wriggling and grunting for more, the first thing that crosses my mind is, well, she's neither sub nor victim- she's just a whore. Judgemental of me, I suppose... *lol*  The second thought is, there is no shame in this for her. You can't debase her, not because she's already base, (which I'm indecisive about,) but because shame resides in the consciousness. Perhaps she's too shallow, perhaps she already loathes herself enough, or conversely, is so proud that she can't be psychologically touched. If a woman truly enjoys pain, then whipping her isn't an act of sadism... denying her orgasm while you whip her might be though.  I imagine that with that particular species of rutting whore... the type that gleefully subjects herself, and grins with pride as she does so, the trick to breaking her would be to batter her with negative reinforcement. Get her to show you her raunchiest filth, and assail her with verbal abuse as she does so....  I have conjured up such abuses in my mind for such women more than a few times. If I were her top, (and male,) I'd never let her touch me, and certainly not my cock. She'd have to beg for the privilege of just watching me stroke it... She'd get my cum, but only from the floor, and she'd have to beg for that too. It's probably a good thing that I'm not a Domme. I think I'd be entirely too evil.
  
  

• collared_whore's_Master said on Nov 01, 2007....

  Obedience is the key, isn't it? If you can't obey and give yourself completely to your Master, you have no value.

• whoreslave said on Nov 01, 2007....

  Obedience is a good thing certainly, but I don't think that's relevant in this case.  Or rather, it's tangentially relevant... Obedience is all well and good so long as you are only commanded to do things that you enjoy. "Yes, Master, I want to be fucked.... yes Master, I'd love to cum for you..." But obeying something which scares or humiliates you... that's more the real deal. That's actual obedience. And if a sub "obeys" even the filthiest debasements with a huge stupid grin, then there's hardly any value to her obedience, is there? Because there's no sacrifice. No suffering. Suffering, (as Swordsman and I agree,) is the key, whether she's being subjected by force, or by will. And that may be the biggest difference between your submission and mine.
  
  

• collared_whore's_Master said on Nov 01, 2007....

  Yes, we have a difference of opinion on this point. I don't concern Myself with her suffering, only her ability to obey & please Me.

• controlfreak said on Nov 01, 2007....

  *SMH*(shaking my head) Damn Whoreslave...I think I love you. (smile)
   

• whoreslave said on Nov 01, 2007....

  *smilesagain*  You guys can just keep that up... I didn't come here for an ego boost, but y'er spoiling me!
  
  My comment about the first thought,  "She's just a whore..." kinda ironic, given my pseudonym here, but I get the feeling you knew exactly what I meant. I become a whore- am made a whore through these acts... I am stained by them. That girl was a whore when she walked in the room. She's already filthy. She is filthy all on her own without any help from outside. You can't stain her- she is already dyed the color of obscenity. She made herself a whore.  Strange that that offends me on some level... It doesn't offend me that she enjoys her raunchiness, but something about her definitely is unappealing.
  
  

• whoreslave said on Nov 02, 2007....

  collared_whore's_Master-  *nod* I understand your point of view. Can you understand my logic hre though? That requiring a sub to endure, whether pain, humiliation, fear, or any other unpleasant experience allows her the opportunity to better express her devotion? 

• collared_whore said on Nov 02, 2007....

  Really interesting dialogue on this point.  my thought though is that a sub can enjoy it, smile during it, and still be a "good" (there goes that value judment) sub, and not "just" a whore.  Wow--what a funny sentence!  i never thought i'd write something like that.  lol.  In other words, so long as the submission is consentual, in the final analysis, the sub is always deriving some sort  of pleasure from whatever base thing she is enduring, and thus, so what if she smiles or asks for more? 
   
  i'll give you an example.  Yesterday, Master put on my collar and leash and pulled out my stainless steel dog dish.  He told me to squat and pee in the dish, and then later, He had me crawl on my hands and knees over to it, while He held my leash, and then had me lap up three big gulps of my piss.  Or another example, yesterday He was skull fucking me so hard that i actually gagged up a little puke in my mouth.  Now in general, i don't go around saying, damn i want to squat like a dog into a container and then lap it up, nor do i particularly enjoy puking.  But, i totally got off on what W/we did together yesterday; i crave obedience to my Master, i get off  on doing whatever weird, extreme, kinky thing Master tells me to do, and because that gets me off, usually, i'm happy doing it--not complaining or begging to stop, and often, i do it with a smile on my face and a dripping wet cunt.  Yesterday, in fact, i remember looking up, smiling a bit at Master with the piss dripping off my face.  i smiled not because my favorite thing to do is drink piss, but rather because my favorite thing to do is obey my Master.  And even though i had gagged, i wanted more and begged for Master to skull fuck me again.  i smiled up at Him too, from my knees, entreating Him to pound the back of my throat again. 
   
   
  i'll go out on a limb here and ask if maybe what is appealing about a sub not smiling, not rutting or not asking for more, is the thought that perhaps, she is not consenting to what is happening and perhaps it is being done against her will.  i will admit that such things turn me on as well, so i'm not judging.  Just wondering if that was perhaps the real issue here.  Thoughts?

• whoreslave said on Nov 02, 2007....

  Hmmm. I still think it lies in the fact that she does consent, despite clearly suffering the experience. There is also the factor that while He may chose to extract pleasure from her, that is his choice, and the point of the entire exercise is His pleasure, not hers. (Stepping a bit into fantasy space there- believe me, I know all too well that in the grand tallyt-up, it really has to come out pretty equal, as far as everyone's pleasure is concerned.)  From there I can launch into a whole cock-worship scenario, but that's above and beyond what I'm saying here.  I guess there must be some sadism, (and for the sub, inverse sadism- NOT masochism, certainly,) to feel the way that I do, and believe ControlFreak and Swordsman are expressing as well. Maybe we could get them to chime in a bit more about the why...
  
  And while you're at it you two, maybe a few words on whether a Sadist and a masochist actually belong together, given masochists' self-centered, narcissistic tendencies, and sadists' desire to cause suffering, which masochists don't truly experience from erotic pain...
  

• collared_whore said on Nov 14, 2007....

  i completely agree that the point of it is Master's pleasure; if pleases Master to allow the sub pleasure, to allow her to cum, then so be it, it is His choice.  The sub's pleasure is not the goal, Master's pleasure is.    
   
  But i'm still strugglig a bit to understand your point that sub should not show her enjoyment by rutting, smiling, asking for more, etc., because doing those things "only" makes her a whore, and not a sub.  Is it your feeling that the sub should either (a) not enjoy what it is that her Master makes her do; or (2) if she does enjoy it, not allow her enjoyment to show (unless perhaps her Master orders her to show it)?  

• whoreslave said on Nov 14, 2007....

  Oh-! *rofl* I didn't mean to say none SHOULD! Only that, in my PERSONAL opinion, (and more specificly, to my taste,) Porn where women are behaving that way is much less fun and appealing! I'd never dream of telling you how a sub or slave should or shouldn't EVER or ALWAYS act! Hell no! YKIOK with me. What's good for him, and good for you, and works and balances and gets alla' y'all off.... Is exactly as it should be. You see what I mean?
  As far as why that sort of girl, in a porn context, seems like just another whore is simply that she's ACTING exactly like every other porn chick, the only difference is, that she's got a collar on and a plug in her butt or something... *lol* But that's just Porn. And porn is nothing like reality.

• whoreslave said on Nov 15, 2007....

  OH-! And it also occurs to me to observe: A slave who is grinning and giggling as she romps strikes me as one who is not in any way about HIS pleasure... she is about her own, and perfectly thrilled that hers coincide with his. It can certainly be the opposite as well- that she is all about His Will, and she's just happy hers coincides... Certainly nothing wrong with that. But in the case of Porn, it's always preferable to be shown something than to have to imagine it. If he grabs her by the hair and forces her to her knees, then after that all we see is his face in ecstasy, we'll feel cheated, right? Same deal. I don't want to have to wonder whether He is in charge, or simply telling her to do whatever she wants.

• anonymous said on Nov 19, 2007....

  ws--i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.  As we both agree, there is no one right way or wrong way to do bdsm.  There as many ways as there are people doing it.  For Master and i, having me pretend not to enjoy what W/we do just wouldn't work, because that's just what it would be for U/us, pretending.  Most importantly, that isn't what He wants.  And secondarly, the fact is that i get off on enduring whatever He has to give me; i always want more, i always want to take it, no matter what "it" is.  i will smile through my tears, because, bottom line, i thrive on serving Him, pleasing Him, and enduring what He decides to give me.
   
  For Master and i, one of the really key ingredients is unflagging honesty and openness about all things.  i have Rules of Conduct that i follow, and a couple are relevant here:  that i have no secrets and am an open book; that i am to respond either verbally or physically, to all that Master does and says.  W/we interpret those rules as a mandate that i must fully and honestly express all that i feel and think to Master, no matter what.  For me, to pretend that i don't enjoy being used, being humiliated, being verbally abused, receiving pain, being tied up, being controlled, enduring whatever He wants to do to me or give me etc., would seem artificial.  i do grimace and cry out in pain, but in the next breath, i smile when i see His face, when He talks to me, when He kisses me or caresses me.  He gets off knowing that i am a dirty whore that loves pain, that loves to be fucked, that loves to suck cock, etc.  For example, Master wants to hear me say i love it, whatever "it" happens to be at the moment.  He can be caning my ass like there's no tomorrow, and He will demand that i beg for more and tell Him that i love it.  That pleases Him, and so i do it. 
   
  Also, the fact that i am happy enduring what He is doing or giving me does not in any way take away from the fact that He is in charge.  Frankly, i don't really understand how a sub smiling and enjoying it means that the Dom is not in charge.  He is allowing her to smile, if she is cumming, He is allowing her to cum, and He is giving her whatever bliss is making her smile.  He decides when and if to stop and when and if there is more.  She can smile and beg all she wants for more, but it's up to the Dom to decide.  So again, i just i have a different perspective on it.     
   
  The bottom line, of course, is that each Master and sub, through trial and error, and through time and experimentation, have to find what works for them.  And how fun is that?  :)

• collared_whore said on Nov 19, 2007....

  just wanted to say that that last comment was from me--i must have hit anon by mistake. i don't do anon; hell, we're all anonymous here, why bother hiding your soulcast identity.
   lol.

• whoreslave said on Nov 19, 2007....

  True, true! (And I'd gathered it was you. ;>}>
  But you raise some very interesting points, (and kinda get me hot thinking about it, and your Master's approach, dammit. *lol* But there seems to be so little that *doesn't* get me hot...)
  You say you'll cry and whimper while he's doing it... you honestly *don't* enjoy the pain, true? So if he tells you that you must admit that you love it and beg for more, he is acknowledging the same conflict in you that I address by not "admitting" it- I love it. I want it. I crave it- but "It" is not the pain itself, but rather his ability and desire to inflict it. Your Master knows that it pleases you to please Him, and that in itself, becomes a sort of self-propitiating cycle.
  And I don't think, if you and your Master were to film what you do,you would qualify at all as one of those insipidly grinning porn whores. *lol* Not at all. Because as you said, you will whimper and cry first. You acknowledge the pain as pain, and not pleasurable in itself, and thus are not, as the classic term goes, a true "painslut". I was just pondering this point in fact, and considering a fresh post on it- that there are "Masochists", submissive, and otherwise, who will in the absence of a Dom to inflict punishment and/or pain inflict it upon themselves, without even necessarily fantasizing about that pain coming from the hand of another. They get off on the pain. You and I don't. We get off on the dynamic, in one form or another. So we DON'T actually disagree, I think, at all.

• whoreslave said on Nov 20, 2007....

  Another quick thought- or , not really so quick, since I imagine it's not a question that's totally simple and straight forward to answer-
  If c_w_M realized he desired to see you endure something... nothing harmful, in this particular hypothetical, just difficult and/or deeply unpleasant... something which is entirely outside the scope of your own fetishes. For instance, you've both said that you don't engage in scat play... what if he realized a curiousity, or even acknowledged a desire, to explore scat play. (Not that you would, c_w_H! Just an example!) Would you find as much thrill, knowing it pleased him, in that sort of an act? Would *HE* even *ask* you to go there, knowing it was unappealing to you entirely, despite his own desires? If he did, and you endured it with great difficulty, would that greater endurance, specificly for his pleasure, please him more still? And would you not gain equivalently greater pleasure from the act of enduring it...?

• pageantgirl12 said on Jun 28, 2008....

  I dream of daddy pulsing semen into my throat and feeling it run slowly into my tummy...

• skrypno said on Jul 08, 2008....

  greetings, I'm so glad I saw your profile on shockingtube whoreslave. This is exactly the community I've been looking for to talk about my obsessions, desires, and experiences. I love everything you've all said. I have been a male "whore-slave" for about 2 years now. I'm only 25 (which I hear is very young for this type of lifestyle) but it's the only true sexual and sentual satisfaction I get.
   
  So my question, what is the best way to experience your fantasies. I've had quite a few masters and mistrisses (yes im bi) and none seem to fullfill me. The fantasies in my head that I'm dying to experience go way beyond what little "footworship" and "watersports" I've been subjected to. What I want is so much more. What I want is further past "watersports" than watersports is past vanilla play. Then again to be the good little sub boy that I am my role is to obey completely. Telling them what I want isn't exactly in the job description. And as you have stated above I don't want to enjoy it. I want it to hurt or be forced upon me, how can that happen if it's MY fantasy and I have to tell someone how to reinact it. Your thoughts?

• whoreslave said on Aug 09, 2008....

  Welcome skrypno & pageantgirl- Very much welcome! Sorry you've had no responses from me- I've been in a tangle, real-life wise. But I'm reading and will be back around soon.

• whoreslave said on Aug 09, 2008....

  (And skrypno- If youkeep looking in here, I'll have some ideas for you in time, I think.... but your is a problem that plagues all subs.)

• Shawnnessy said on Feb 26, 2009....

  i love the daddy/daughter thing. and like you, i would never imagnie anything with my own father. but just the thought, of some lil girl and her daddy spanking her naughty little ass. shoving his cock down her throat. showing her what being a real woman is all ab out. mmmmmmmmm. i think i just came a little :)

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