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Things I will never be able to say to mom.

 

How can some one become more childish as they get older? She is 50+ years old and it seems like the older she gets the more selfish and emotional she gets. She is getting more and more capricious and less and less observant. She talks like a 4 year old and cant understand why that annoys me. I love her and have tremendous respect for her, still. I don’t think I will realy loose respect for her until I understand what is happening to her.

 

Qualities that annoy the hell out of me:

Loud

Pointlessly verbose

Selfish

Lack of observation skills

 

It is an odd thing to call her selfish. You see; she makes massive physical sacrifices for her class and family, her devotion to educational service is profound. And it is in those sacrifices that she is selfish, she racks her body with injury and will pay no addition to reasonable physical limits. So she hurt her self, and every pain she feels I feel. And every day she has to spend in drug addled stupor I suffer. Her unwillingness to accept her own physical limits leads our entire family to pain and stress. And some times she is willing to put her family through sharp emotional pain and physical/finical suffering because of some thing that she just has to have. Naturally I can not voice any of this to her as she is so easily offended.

 

I need some help, I need some perspective. I have so many questions in trying to understand this emotional mess.

 

  Ps. she is a stoner. I do this occasionally as well (maybe a few times a year), but a conservative guess for her habit is that she smokes pot 2 times a week. The fact that she thinks she can hid it form me, living much of her daily life stoned is infuriating. especially after she put through the ringer when she caught me doing to young.



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  • the_infernal_optimist said on Sep 14, 2007....
    Those first things (loud, verbose) aren't really things that are likely to change, and are probably irking you because of the deeper issues at stake here. They're details - I bet if some of the big stuff was resolved, you'd be able to tolerate the smaller irritations better.

    Any addiction (and I don't believe for a second that pot isn't addictive - it might not be a chemical thing, but it's there) can devastate a family. I bet that, if she is spending much of her life stoned, that affects her decision-making and may be contributing to the hurtful things she does, including not treating her own body well and making frivolous purchases.

    I haven't dealt with this myself, so I can only theorize as to what I might do in your situation. At the risk of offending her, I would sit down with her (when she's not stoned, if possible) and tell her that as much as you would like to have a healthy, loving relationship with her, it's hard to even try to do that when she's doing these hurtful things. Let her know that you know she has a problem with marijuana (the fact that you also smoke pot, even though you don't do it on a regular basis, kind of leaves you without a leg to stand on there, but you're not trying to judge - right?) and that you hope she can find a way to put it aside so that you and she can work on your relationship.

    I'd try to come off as concerned rather than judgmental, though it sounds like you definitely (and understandably) have some resentment built up, and let her know that you do care about her well being. It sounds like she's not on a good path right now, and your perspective just might be the wake-up call she needs.

    Or it might all backfire. I can't predict how someone I've never met will take things, you know? But at least you would know that you had laid it all out on the table, and that you'd given it your best shot. From there, where you go with her - or without her - is up to you.

    Best of luck with approaching her if you do decide to do that. It's a tough situation.

    ~Infernal
  • secretlife said on Sep 14, 2007....
    well smoking pot 2 times a week can't really be called a stoner, can it?
    if she was smoking every day, multiple times a day, i might use that label, but i can't see smoking a joint or two a week in her free time as a stoner.  a bad exampler for you?  yes, i'd agree with that. 
     
    The only advice i can offer you is to speak to her about how you feel about how she is hurting your whole family.
    It sounds like you're an adult.  And at some point, you have to realize that your mother is also an adult and as such, she is allowed to make choices that you might not agree with, but it's her life, and her choices to make.
     
    The fact that she is loud or too verbose?  these seem like minor irritants.  the more important are your
  • secretlife said on Sep 14, 2007....
    grr, this is cutting me off today!
     
    the more important are your other two issues........talk to her and tell her how you feel.  nothing takes the place of talking.
  • skald said on Sep 14, 2007....
    This is difficult. I do think maybe your mum needs some professional help. I wish I could help but somehow I think the best for you is not to contradict her. Sorry I wish I could say more.

    You can try and talk to her. I dont know if it will help. You know your mum better that I do.
  • skymir said on Sep 14, 2007....

    Thank you all. I have not dicided what I will do, how I will handle this. Her choices are her choices, but my family is very close and we all live with the best and worst of each other. I am not yet sure what I will do but your help, your perspective has been invaluable.

  • skald said on Sep 15, 2007....
    Skymir. I like what you said about your family that you are very close and that you will live with the best and worst of each other. I am sure then that you will be able to mend the problem at least work your self out of it. 
  • secretlife said on Sep 15, 2007....
    skymir do you all live under the same roof?  or are you living apart from your mother?
  • skymir said on Sep 16, 2007....

    @secret

    I'm living with her now, but that will most likely change soon. Mostly for reasons other then the ones above. But for the foreseeable future I will be living in the same city and with my mother the way she is that means we will be together often.

  • secretlife said on Sep 16, 2007....
    living apart even if in the same city will give you some distance from her,
    and perhaps those things that grate on you will do so less when you don't have to be near her all the time-
     
     
  • missdonna said on Sep 21, 2007....
    Well you are definantely not alone.
    My mother started becoming very mean,judgmental, and putting me down every chance she got..
    I spent years trying to figure her out, I cried alot of tears, she actually once told me that she didn't love me.
     Now at 44 I find her(she's80, doesn't look a day over 65) to be more caring, we live 4 hrs apart, she calls me and says things she's never said like(I love you, I'm thinking about you,) I used to tell my brother who lives with me that something was wrong with her because that was strange to me to hear that.
    Then one day I thought that I shouldn't look at it like that and just be glad for this turn a round in her.
     I have always wriiten poetry and some poems I have written to my mother concerning her hurtful ways really hit home with her. So have you considered a letter perhaps telling her how you feel?
    Hugs Donna
  • skymir said on Nov 23, 2007....

    HI all! since I am around I thought I would stop in with something of an update. Me and Mom have had a few “hart to harts” recently. When ever I get in to a serious conservation with mom she always reminds me why I love her and that I have a tendency to underestimate her. Her drug use has not come up, maybe it’s not the healthiest thing but I think I would just rather leave that unsaid. I think we both have a much better understand of how our actions have hurt each other in other ways.

     

    It is very hard to ask people for help, self-sufficient is my style and I am not accustomed to failure. You guys have been really wonderful with this. Even just getting me to bring some our issues out in the open has helped tremendously. At the risk of sounding like a broken record I can not commit much time to this place, but for as little as I commit I feel like you have helped me in innumerable ways

    thanks

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