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Last day my daughter told me she needed to bring to school an item related to our family story.
They are studying History and ancestry.
Being this one of my favorite subjects i wanted her to start in a great way.
 
So i gave her the only thing i have been able to bring with me from Italy (that is old enough to be in a museum) and its strictly connected to her family.
 
After a detailed explanation of the item and after reminding her (for th time) how old it was and how precious, i finally let her have it.
She had the look like 'Geez, mom, its not like is the Ten Comandaments"...She has a future as comedian....i had to laugh... 
 
Fact is the Thing is a 1890 French-Italian dictionary who belonged to my mother's father.
Its a relatively small book with a red leather cover, now worn out and broke in several points.
Inside you can see his signature and several handwritten notes.
My grandfather died when my mother was still young.
I have only one picture of him. And this dictionary.
 
He was a tall, handome man, with black hair and black eyes.
In that picture he is portraited, side by side, with my mother (still a toddler) against the lake of Villa Borghese in Roma.
He was coming from a noble family and was a banker.
After his sudden death for a heart attack, still at a very young age, my grandmother was left with their big, elegant apartment facing Via Veneto close to the office where she started to work, inside the American Embassy.
 
So many possessions of my family got lost during the time...the apartment, two islands, a cork plantation and a country villa....just to name the biggest.....
So its not wonder i take this small, worn out book so dear to me.
It speaks of my family past.
 
But I have other dear possessions.... surely older.....pieces of a mosaic inside of a Roman temple, an Etruscan original small vase (that my father bought on the black market many years ago, illegally).
I have a ring that i wear on my right thumb (made of silver and diamond) that my grandmother molded from an earring originally belonged to her mother.
A very small piece of a Pompeii villa wall, one coin from the Austro-Hungarian Empire time, a rock from the Colosseum (that my daughter couldn't resist putting in her pocket last July and didnt show me if not days after), a rock slate plate from the Petrified Forest and some other things i dont recall now.
 
Which one is your older and dearest possession?
 


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  • dailyachesandpains said on Sep 02, 2007....
    Hey Gingie:
    I can only imagine after your daughter's trip to Italy with you, how much this means to her.  She has to be excited about her project.  Did you get to show her the old apartment and the Embassy while you were there?
     
    My oldest possession (in the hands of my Mom right now) is a family bible.  It belong to my Mom's Great-great-great Grandmother and it is about the size of ones palm.  My Mother will hardly let anyone touch it, the pages are so thin and worn.  However, we got to know a lot about our family through this Bible because as generations passed, the "Grandma's" wrote down births and deaths and places of birth for family. 
     
    It's amazing to read the first entry.  It was the original Grandmother's wedding gift from her parent's and was given to her in Dublin after her wedding "dinner" as it says.  The cursive ink is beautiful to look at and through the years you can see how the ink has changed.  What struck me the most, is that there was at one time approximately 20 blank pages in the beginning and the end of the Bible (where everything is written now).  I often wonder if that was "standard" to have blank pages in a Bible...
     
    Thanks for sharing, Ginger!  Thanks for letting me share too!
    Daily
  • gingersoul said on Sep 02, 2007....

    Daily.......yes, we actually went to Via Veneto and i showed her the building.... i told her that the street was also famous for having being the center of the so called 'Dolce Vita" ...in the '50...and that my grandmother was always talking about the many famous people she was used to see while she was walkig down the street...

    One day she actually sat close to the coffe table where Elizabeth Taylor was having a drink.....that must have been something...;-0

    Do you think that the Bible will pass to you eventually?

    It would be great if you could keep it....

    There is no date printed on it?   

  • silverwhisper said on Sep 02, 2007....
    um...is it weird that i'm thinking my wedding ring?

    ed
  • beyondtheveil said on Sep 02, 2007....
    ginsoul- I have a couple old items, but associated with family, have items only going back to grandparents. My grandfather was a world known pigeon breeder (Homing and Puffers), so I have things associated with that. Also his gold pocket watch. I have water color paintings that my grandmother painted.

    And by the way, I'd be like your daughter and want to pocket a rock from the Colosseum also.
  • gingersoul said on Sep 02, 2007....

    Ed...really?  Well....it depends by the kind of ring is..is maybe an old one passed on from family member to family member?

    Otherwise....yes, its a little weird... :-)

    Bey......oh, i remember you talked about your family pidgeon breeding activity.......and those paintings.....i think i must have a small wooden painting that my ex's mom passed to our daughter and had been painted by her grand aunt....nothing special.....,just a Santa Klaus's head ...but i keep it for my daughter..

    LOL....about the Colosseo...believe me, i told her it was very bad what she did...but how could i be too mad since i myself stole the mosaic pieces of the temple and the Pompeii brick?...

    Bad mom. bad daughter...LOL....

  • polarheart said on Sep 02, 2007....
    Gingerbabes, you are very blessed to have such items as you described.  I left most of my inherited things in SA with my sister (she has a large enough house for it all).  I do however have two sugar spoons that I inherited that I brought to England with me, they were my grandmother's; one is silver.  I am not very sentimental with things, but I appreciate things I can use and I do use my sugar spoons :-))
  • gingersoul said on Sep 02, 2007....

    Pollie......the value is all in the connections we have with the objects....they might talk to us of our personal story or the more fascinating history of our countries...i too, like you, have the majority of my family possessions still at my mom's home.......she has old maps and old documents too....

    My mom collects cups and saucer and sugar bowls and she like especially the English kind......i can see you using your silver sugar spoon......:-)

  • genalonewolf said on Sep 02, 2007....
    I have a bible that was printed in 1817 and belonged to my grandfathers father. It has been passed down from all those years ago. It is pretty old and the pages simply break apart when handle too roughly so i am forced to keep it in a an envelope for safe keeping. One of the few things my grandfather gave me before he died in 1980.
  • secretlife said on Sep 02, 2007....
    i don't have anything very old --- one small watercolor painting that my father's mother painted-- a crochet quilt she made. i have 1/2 dz doilies that my mother's mother and her sister made.  and i have a few framed black and white pictures of both sets of grandparents. 
     
    my dearest possession used to be a diamond necklace that my parents bought for me when i graduated college.  i was the first person in our family to even go to college and originally they were going to pay for a trip to Europe, but I was thinking of marriage, and no way would my parents agree to paying for a trip i would make with my then fiance....so instead they bought me that necklace which was just....delicate and beautiful  i'd never seen one like it before nor since.
     
    i lost in when my first house was robbed back in the summer of 1989.
  • secretlife said on Sep 02, 2007....
    i don't have anything very old --- one small watercolor painting that my father's mother painted-- a crochet quilt she made. i have 1/2 dz doilies that my mother's mother and her sister made.  and i have a few framed black and white pictures of both sets of grandparents. 
     
    my dearest possession used to be a diamond necklace that my parents bought for me when i graduated college.  i was the first person in our family to even go to college and originally they were going to pay for a trip to Europe, but I was thinking of marriage, and no way would my parents agree to paying for a trip i would make with my then fiance....so instead they bought me that necklace which was just....delicate and beautiful  i'd never seen one like it before nor since.
     
    i lost in when my first house was robbed back in the summer of 1989.
  • kruuyai said on Sep 02, 2007....
    I want to say that my oldest possession is probably an off-white sharkskin skirt suit with black and brown piping.  It's the suit that my mother got married in.  But my dearest possession.. that would have to be a toss-up between my dream journal and some photos of my cats.
  • lioneljay said on Sep 02, 2007....
    I still have a few things that I acquired as a youngster. We have a few family heirloom antiques in the house as well as a train conductor's pocket watch that goes back to the late 19th century. But if you asked my children, they'd tell you that I'm the oldest antique in the place.

    Disclaimer, this comment was typed by fingers that are nearly 21,000 days old.
  • CreativeWoman said on Sep 02, 2007....
    I have a doll I saved from my childhood.  It was very special to me.  I also have a serving dish from my best friend's mother that she passed down to me from her family when I got married.  She's always been like a second mom to me. That is also special to me.

    CW
  • gingersoul said on Sep 02, 2007....

    Gena.....1817?  ....nice old.... i keep my dictionary in plastic bag too.....but i am not sure if this is an appropriate way to keep paper........i should google the issue...;-0...

    Secret..  i am sorry about your necklace.....there are objects on which we invest so much ....its a pity you dont have it anymore......

    i wear only one earring at my left ear....its an antique silver and ruby earring in the shape of a small heart....my father bought them for me when i was probably 15.....i lost one and since then i never took the one away...so people migh tell me "Oh, you lost one earring" and i say "No, its the way i like to wear it"..

    Kruu....how sweet.......keeping you mom's wedding skirt.....and i would guess right about your cats pictures...i know how much you loved them...:-)  

  • gingersoul said on Sep 02, 2007....

    LJ.....21,000 years old? Not bad at all....if you you ask me....;-))

    And about being the most old item of your household......dont we all turn in mummies as soon as our kids turn teenager? .Then they grow up and we simply shrink....life is not fair...lol..  

    CW.....hello there.......how are you doing?

    You know...i have never liked dolls....even when i was a little girl....never played with them....my mother one day brought home a pretty doll, all dressed up with some kind of '800 period clothes........well, i broke it......my mom got pretty upset...so i guess it was some kind of precious....i asked her about it years later but she couldnt' remember the episode.... 

  • skald said on Sep 02, 2007....
    Ginger I also like you have many old books from my grandfather from the 1800's. many letters from the beginning of the 1900's . My grandparents wedding rings and thing like that which are very dear to me. Not a very old mosaic  piece like you have.  Oh yes one hand written book about a dream which is really a fairy tail. Luv Italian girl. 
  • gingersoul said on Sep 02, 2007....

    Skald.....oh..i would love to have some old letters too......a friend of mine found the ones her grandmother got from her grandfather inside a book........never been this lucky....

    How and where do you keep these letters?

    I am curious about that handwritten book....did you write it?.. 

    Love, my Iceland lady....:-)

  • dailyachesandpains said on Sep 02, 2007....
    Ginger:  That's great that you took her to those places!  My Mother wants to trace the Bible back. She wants to visit where the graves are and find out where exactly all of her family is from.  My Sister and I have worked on some of the information for her (my Sister's done most of it, and even met a distant cousin when they came over for a visit). 
     
    I don't recall the first date off the top of my head, but it was in the 1800's.  I was speaking with my Mother about it after I posted here and she said she was putting it in a safety deposit box (God forbid the house ever caught fire).  Oh, and she also said she doesn't want it touched because of the "gold leaf" pages, lol.  It's the edges of the pages.  I do believe I will end up with it.  She knows I treat family heirlooms differently than my Sister's do.  They put things in a box and shove them away.  I keep them close to my heart.  I got everything from my Grandmother, I do feel badly, but my sister's didn't want anything...well, not much of anything.  Before she died, well before, she gave me my great-aunt Mary's engagement ring and if it's real, I couldn't put a dollar amount on it.  She also gave me her pearls and her ring.  I'm glad she wasn't ill when she handed these things to me, it meant a lot that she could speak clearly to me and talk with me, shed a tear and all being sane while doing so.  Those things are my most precious things.  The Bible that my Mother has from her side of the family is the oldest thing. 
     
    {{{HUGS}}
    Daily
  • wombat said on Sep 02, 2007....
    Not lucky enough to have beautiful and precious heirlooms like yours, but I wish I did.  I do have an antique lady's silver hand-held mirror.  It is so heavy I can't believe it. It has to be old, but I don't know how old. And it is not from my family, just something I bought at a yardsale.  We do have a pair of eyeglasses (spectacles) belonging to hubby's grandfather, and they are special to us. For me personally, I guess it has to be my rock collection!  Can't get older than that!
  • LadyGamer said on Sep 02, 2007....
    My daddy's mother gave me a set of turquiose hair barrettes given to her by her mother. They are very delicate and designed for strictly decorative purposes. they cannot actually hold up hair. But once you have your hair up, they look lovely.
  • gingersoul said on Sep 02, 2007....

    Daily...gold leaf pages...it must be a beautiful object......i hope you will end up keeping it......i am like you...i am the official archivist of the family..

    when my sister passed away my mom and i found in her home  lots of black and white old pictures that she took from the family album.....it was ok but she simply piled them in a drawer...I framed some of them and hang them her now....

    Wombie.....i like hand-held mirrors......they are very elegant ....and i already knew about your beloved rock collection...did you and Hotaka ever exchange pictures of your mutual passion?....lol....

    LG......oh, nice......do you still wear them sometimes? Turquoise on your red hair must be a striking combination..:-)

  • wombat said on Sep 02, 2007....

    Don"t have the means or smarts to post personal pics, but thanks for the tip that someone else likes my rock collection--in case I knew that but forgot...probably I did.... I have a small round one that rattles!  I think it is a petrified nut.  (Like me!)  And recently, my hubby brought me two large round ones that we can't figure out.  They look like white cannonballs--but are just "rocks."

    And I love my silver hand-mirror.

  • gingersoul said on Sep 02, 2007....

    Wombie........i cant believe it........Polarheart has a special post that teaches how to post pics......see? i gave you another tips here...lol.....

    now you dont have anymore excuses ......

    i want to see your rocks!!!!...:-D

  • Lioness said on Sep 03, 2007....
    I wish I had something to share, possessions which I could proudly say belonged to my ancestors. I remember having a set of fairy tales book that my grandma used to read to me before going to sleep. Unfortunately, the house of my grandparents got burned 3 years ago, along with those memorabilias. 
  • queenparanoia said on Sep 03, 2007....
    hmmmm...
     
    i have nothing to share sorry...
     
    just some pics of me when i was a baby... =)
  • lfbno7 said on Sep 03, 2007....
    I think the oldest thing I own is the set of Davy Crockett cards from about 1955.  Oh wait, I have older cards than that, some from about 1910, but somehow they don't seem to count because I bought them in the 1980s, while the Davy Crockett cards were things I collected when I was little.
  • lfbno7 said on Sep 03, 2007....
    Not that I'm all that terribly big now.
  • quietone said on Sep 03, 2007....
    such nice treasures you have ginger.   I just got some old bibles from my brother-in-law that my sister had.  They are dated mid 1800s and I think they are 3 generation pass down, maybe more.  I aslo found old photos of great great grandparents, and one of me as an infant in my great grandfathers arms.  I also was going to post such a blog myself...with the pics.  I hope your heirloom made it back from school all safe and sound. Italy is such an "old country"  :)
  • gingersoul said on Sep 03, 2007....

    Lioness...long time if dont read you...how have you been doing?..:-)

    I hate when things like this happen......when Kathrina destroyed hundreds of homes the survivors were all mourning the loss of small things....pictures, old possessions...because of all of that was shaping who they were...its a horrible feeling being eradicated from your present but also from your past.

    Queen...dont worry.......you are so young....you have all the time to make your own in the future....:-).

    Lf.......you are like the character of "Big" with Tom Hanks...LOL....all grown up on the outside and just a kid inside....keep it in this way....:-)

  • gingersoul said on Sep 03, 2007....

    Quiet.......those are really neat possessions.....i will be waiting to read your post now.....

    Thanks.....my precious book went back home safe and whole...she told me the teacher was very impressed by it....

    And yes, my country is ooooold....LOL...

  • the_infernal_optimist said on Sep 03, 2007....
    My oldest possession and my dearest one are not the same. ;-) I'd have to say that my wedding band is probably my dearest possession, but the oldest thing I own (which is at my grandparents' house for safekeeping) is much older.

    It's a book of flowers (a children's guide) from the 1880s, I think - the exact year escapes me now. It was given to my grandmother by her great-aunt, and she gave it to me. It's neat to read about different plants from a perspective designed for kids, and each page is illustrated with the flower personified. Every flower has a child's face, and there are rhymes to help a child tell poison ivy from something benign, etc.

    The book is quite brittle. It seems like I've always been interested in old books, but that interest probably actually arose from the flower book.

    ~Infernal
  • gingersoul said on Sep 03, 2007....

    Infernal.....what a nice book.....it makes me thing of those English illustrated books about gardening and plants....really neat...

    Isn't interesting how small details like this can sediment in us and then blooms even after years in passions, hobbies, interests.......:-)

  • skald said on Sep 03, 2007....
    Ginger. The oldest letters I have are from my great grandmother to my grandmother as she was in the country. They are written in 1910 or there about. Grandmother was born in 1896. There are also letters from my grandfathers brother and his friends very early in the last  century. i really have a lot of letters. Keep them here. in boxes. The same boxes my grandma kept them in.  Hope it will be OK. The old books come from grand dad. He loved books. I have a very old Bible too. The handwritten book is well before my time. Written sometimes late 1800's. can't tell you exactly when as I don't have it in my hands. It is a strange book. 
  • silverwhisper said on Sep 03, 2007....
    GS, it's not old or a family heirloom: it's important b/c of what it represents. i don't really own any heirlooms or antiques, you see.

    ed
  • gingersoul said on Sep 03, 2007....

    Skald...i've read somewhere that the best way to preserve letters is using the same kind of acid free paper of photoalbum...you have so many precious letters......maybe you can make a nice album with all of them..what a great family treasure...:-)

    SW.... the value of something is all in the meaning after all....

  • Lioness said on Sep 03, 2007....
    ginger, I am doing well thank you, but work had it that I be away from the office most of the time. It's just great to be back. Yes, I definitely know how it feels like to lose everything to a disaster occurrence.
  • gingersoul said on Sep 03, 2007....

    Lioness.....i am glad to read you are doing well.....and that you are back to stay....

    hey, better working away from the office than not working at all....:-)

  • Twylarants said on Sep 03, 2007....
    My mother's engagement ring - 1945,  A bone china teacup and saucer my grandmother used to drink tea from - 1920s, and my husband - 1947.
  • gingersoul said on Sep 04, 2007....
    Twyla.....your husband? Hey, come one.....that is not THAT old.....lol..
  • skald said on Sep 07, 2007....
    Ginger Yes thanks. I´ll keep them as they are and maybe someday they will go where they belong to the National Book Library. There they keep letters and dairies. What I treasure maybe most are the letters from the second world war. And also the years just before that. Luv PS on my Icelandic bog a year ago I published some of them especially grandmas and they were very popular. It's not so good to translate them. They loose to much.
  • gingersoul said on Sep 07, 2007....

    Skald....lovely....from a family to a nation to the humakind.....

    sometime i wonder about the fact that in a way all our memories are remembered all at the same time by all the human beings on Earth...we all give a piece of us to form the tapestry of life ....thank you....:-)

     

  • Pontius_Pilate said on Sep 09, 2007....
    As for family history type stuff?
    Nada... my families never been too big on that sort of thing. :shrug:
    As for myself directly. I have a hand written and passed note from LG, still folded in the odd folding ways of school way back when.
    I have Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead or Alive on 45, was gift from HK, think for my 16th.
    Other than that, tons of old notes and pics from whenever... but think those are the biggest things IMO.

  • gingersoul said on Sep 09, 2007....

    Pilate...........oh, those notes and pics.....i bet i can open my boxes and if i dig inside i will find yet another little things, yet another little note.......why we keep all these stuff? why we dont let go? Even the things that remin us of bad experiences or humiliations...

    Have you ever thought of what to do with these memorablia after you die?

    I will ask to burn everything. After i sort what i would like for my daughter or friends to keep ....i cant  stand the idea of me dead and people going thru my diaries....

  • tbs230 said on Sep 09, 2007....
    I have a teddy bear that belonged to my cousin maybe 15 or 16 years ago. I kept it after he died. It's my oldest, most valuable possession.
  • gingersoul said on Sep 09, 2007....
    Tbs....how touching......sorry for your loss.....you were really fond of him, evidently......how old he was when he died? how old were you?
  • tbs230 said on Sep 09, 2007....
    He was 6 and I was 8. He was my godbrother, the closest person to my age, the only person who was younger that me...I loved him more than anyone. He was always sick you know...and he loved that teddy bear, so now I love it for him.
  • gingersoul said on Sep 09, 2007....
    Horrible...dying so young....that teddy bear is just his symbol......it says a lot of you the fact that you after all these years still consider it your dearest and valuable possession..

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