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I was doing pretty good after my move.  I definately have options.  I foolishly emailed my ex asking for a very expensive bottle of wine back.  I even offered to meet him for dinner and share it since I am feeling like an adult these days.
 
He called me at lunch yesterday.  He had given up accusing me of being the reason the relationship hadn't worked.  He wanted to talk about "it" so I offered to have him over to my place after work for dinner.
 
It took him all of 5 days to fall apart physically.  He's sick and looks like he doesn't have anything clean to wear.  I get a certain amount of satisfaction since he only had bad things to say about my housekeeping skills.
 
Dinner was weird.  We sat and ate, with Wolfgang parked by my chair waiting for leftovers.  The cat, who has finally warmed up, also waited a respectful distance.  The ex BF's demeanor was very humbled.  He listened to me (a first) when I told him that I had no intentions of moving back.  I like my life here, and if he wanted to see me at all there are a whole set of things that are going to change about our "relationship".
 
He was visably unhappy about this, but knew I was dead serious.  Every time he tried to claim rights or considerations I nipped it in the bud.  I plain told him that he gave up those rights when he treated me in a way that made me so unhappy that I had no choice but to leave.
 
I took him along on my walk.  He can see why I love my new place.  It's not as fancy, but I have animals who love me and a place to walk that is beautiful.  I pointed out that it's not "things" that I want, but a place to rest and people who trust and respect me.  I think this rocked his world since he definately is a "things" oriented person.
 
I'm not sure where this all ends up.  He tells me that he can't imagine living without me, and I still can't imagine living with him.  I was honest.  He says he wants to marry me, children or not, house or not, just the way I am.  I don't know that I believe that, but I'm not going to stop him from proving that.  I do still love him, but I told him I will not let that get in the way of my long term happiness.
 
This makes my life so much more complicated.  I probably should have not even talked to him.


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  • quietone said on Aug 29, 2007....
    Oh, the heart...it always seems to mess things up!!  You are in a very vulerable place right now...healing in the process of it all.  I feel for you my dear...have been there myself - it tears at ya.  keep on keepin on.  You will be okay, look how far you have already come in such a short time!  {{{hugs}}} to you. I think you did a great job at standing your ground!  :)  After all if you deserve to put you first!
  • Brunettebmshell said on Aug 29, 2007....

    Uniquely ~

    This is so dangerous. Please be careful not to allow yourself to be sucked back in to his toxic behavior. I too was in a relationship with a guy who made me feel terrible all the time. I was constantly crying, he would name call, said I was crazy when I expressed my feelings, and was an all around jerk. I made the mistake, after a few weeks of breaking up with him, to agree to see him. He was also a wreck, said he was miserable without me, crying (which I had never see him do), and promising that he was a changed man. Ha! How great actors men can be when they are desperate in wanting control back... I gave him a second chance, and let me tell you u-i, for the first month or so our relationship was a dream. And then once he got nice and comfortable again, BAM! I was broadsided by his old cruel ways. Men don't change after weeks, or even months, and I know it is hard to tell them no when they show you the teeniest bit of affection that you have been dying for. But you must stay strong, don't allow your heart to over-rule your brain in this one. You've been doing so good so far, don't lose sight of why you wanted to do this in the first place.. Your happiness. Good luck!

    BB

  • uniquely-ironic said on Aug 29, 2007....

    quietone - yes, it is tough to keep plodding on and not veer off into familiarity

    BB - That's my thought too.  I sure wish he would change, but I'm doubtful.

  • travelr712 said on Aug 29, 2007....
    it sounds like this was exactly what needed to happen. you just might have the opportunity to wake someone up to their own materialism. you might give him the incentive to see there are things more important than rock hard abs and a mercedes. not that those things aren't nice, but they also aren't very important. i don't know if he can fit into the life you want to have. the people you love don't usually have much to do with their lifestyle and their goals if you're not a shallow person. just remember, you lived with him so long because he is a master manipulator, and he'll try to convince you that he's changed in a week or two, just because he misses free laundry service and a warm body in his bed.

    you set the standard of when he's changed. you decide what those signs will be, and don't tell him what they are. if he meets those signs, you'll know he's really changed, because they'll be yours and not his. he has no way of manipulating that. you just might force this man to grow up a little in the process, and wouldn't that be wonderful?
  • gingersoul said on Aug 29, 2007....

    Unique.......oh, from where i start?....i smell danger.....i would say.....run, girl, run.....

    My ex husband left me. After 4 months he begged me in tears to take him back home, I loved him. I said yes. After 6 months he left me again for the same woman that he left to come back to me. Oh, in the meantime, their baby was born.

    I felt like i had been robbed of 6 months of my life.

    I could have healed so much faster without him coming back and making me believe we were safe and happy again.

    Don't let his look and his promises fool you....

    Think deep....what YOU want? You dont have to be his savior or his spiritual guide....

    Five days and he is a wreck? And how long YOU have been unhappy with him?

  • Fire_01 said on Aug 30, 2007....

    Oh boy!!! Love hurts....I don't know the full story, but I admire your strength. Stabilize and stay on your own as long as possible.

    Will he change?

    Does anyone change?

    You either live with him or stay with him as he is. No one changes...man or woman.

     

  • Mamie said on Aug 30, 2007....
    Hi UI: I am glad you had this visit but I think it is dangerous too. You can't "steal second base and keep your foot on first" as they say....move on soul sister...you are better than he and you deserve so much more...I know you will get lonely sometimes. but fake it till you make it and before you know it, your knight in shinging armor will be handing you a rose.....I agree with Ginger....run!
  • slirpuff said on Aug 30, 2007....
    Take time and let everything and every body settle down..
    It's new for you and a wakeup call for him...
    Do nothing until the dust settles and then you both can
    do or not do anything at a slow pace...
    No rebounds for at least 6 months..
    Steve
  • uniquely-ironic said on Aug 30, 2007....

    Travlr - He is a manipulator, so yes I have set in stone the expectations that must be met.  I haven't told him what that is, since then he could use it to manipulate me.  I am also in no rush, so time will tell just how changed he is.

    ginger - I was unhappy a very long time.  I have no problem not making a decision for at least as long.  The way I see the situation, I'm in charge here and it's my decision to make or not make where he's concerned.

    Mamie - I know this looks like a poor decision.  I am not falling back into the old lifestyle that made me unhappy.  I'm just on excluding him from the new one that makes me happy.

    slirpuff - that it exactly!  I have made a committment to live in this transition for a minimum of 1 year.  Even if I'm "sure" before then, I have committed to keeping all options open for a year.

  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 30, 2007....
    No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!!!
     
    Girlfriend, I am glad he called, we needed this pne for our ego.
    BUT
     
    This is your life, not his pain. YOU, you and you first.
    And you didn't make this huge step just to dance back and make a fool out of yourself, did you?
     
    be strong dear. What's over is over. Done. Never will be the same. Don't forget that.
     
    Hugs
     
    PS : Don't you let me go blame you again, you heard!?
  • RollingC said on Aug 30, 2007....
    The only way to be happy (even if it brings trouble) is to follow your heart.  It's up to you to decide if the trouble is worth it.
    The heart is very fickle at times.  Good luck and wish you the best.
    Rc
  • uniquely-ironic said on Aug 30, 2007....
    Fire 01 - sorry, somehow missed your comment before.  No one changes, but I'm not asking for him to change who he is, just how he treats me.  I am insisting on a year on my own, during which we can see each other.
     
    ZsuzsiO - I'm not dancing back.  I know how it looks, but I'm prepared to push away.
     
    RollingC - boy you sure said it!  I'm very annoyed with my heart.  I'm having a heck of a time making the brain over ride the heart.
  • kruuyai said on Aug 30, 2007....
    uniquely:  I'm glad that you got a nice place to live.  That can make a big difference in helping you to get used to your new lifestyle.  It seems like you have everything pretty well thought out (after I've read your comments), so I won't dispense any advice.  Only, be good to yourself.  {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
  • uniquely-ironic said on Aug 30, 2007....
    kruuyai - thank you.  I will try to be good to myself first, and others next.
     
  • kruuyai said on Aug 30, 2007....
    I think that's the perfect order to do things in.  :)
  • destinydiva said on Aug 30, 2007....
    aaawww unique,((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))
    Its you that has to live your life day in day out. So the decision has to be your own.

    From experience I am with ginger and co. on this one...run...  but then I tried over and over to make my ex realize and change how he treated me.  Before I finally let go of him.

    Have you ended your relationship before? I know you have never taken such a large step as moving out before. But has he ever said before now, I realize, I will change ??  If he has, then he never will.

    Each time I took a step further with my ex....I threatened to end our relationship, he said that was enough to make him change...it wasnt!!  I ended our relationship, he stayed on the couch.... he said that 2 weeks on the couch was enough....it wasnt!! I ended it again, he moved in with his mum....he said this was the wake up call he needed, it was enough to make him change....  It wasnt!!!  He moved in again, it took 3 weeks for him to prove he hadnt changed,  yet he still went on to try and convince me that this time... he would....   he never will.
    That type of person never does. A manipulator will always manipulate.

    Whatever you decide unique, I think your going the right way by setting yourself margins, make sure you dont cross them.

    Your heart may hurt now but in a few months you will have moved on and left a space for someone new to fill. If you cling on to something, even without realizing you are clinging on to something, then your heart will hurt forever more, as to will your soul....


    You deserve a fresh shot at love unique. Somebody who treats you right because they love you and want to treat you right. Not because you had to force them in to treating you right.  you have come soooo  far in such a short space of time and it took so much strength and energy and will power to see your decision through, but you made it!! you did that unique!!!
    Ask yourself, when you finally decided enough is enough, was your goal a life free of him? or was you giving him a wake up call??  if it was a life free of him... stick to that plan. 

    But this is only my opinion. Only you can make that decision and only you can carry it through.

    I wish you all the strength in the world. And just hold on to how you felt when you were finally free, and how it felt when you were trapped in misery.

    ((((((((((((more hugs)))))))))))   :-)

    Destiny xx


  • destinydiva said on Aug 30, 2007....
    hiya unique, me again :-)

    I hope you dont mind, I was playing with my ask your guides cards, I was shuffling and seeing what came up, anyways, I shuffled and thought of you and your situation, and picked a card....  it was number 12, so I started typing it up for you and I got half way thru before I realised I had already typed it up!!  lol  :-)
    So I copied and pasted it. Hope it helps :-)


    priorities/master teacher
    (choice...reflections...decisions....commitment)

    for every new ambition, relationship and experience you seek at this time, theres a commitment in place that must be eliminated to make way for the new.
    Current routines, habits, and even types of free time must be sacrificed so that you can open up to new energies. Your master teacher is present, urging you to identify what must go.
    Be honest in your assesment and also be realistic and thoughtful in setting your goals so you dont overreach and fail.

    Your master teacher reminds you that even though the universe does support your heart, it doenst allow you to bypass the work necessary to manifest your desires. In other worfds...you reap what you sow. And the best way is to systematically move toward your priorities while simultaneously discarding what no longer serves you. If you want to loose ten pounds.. you must release donuts If you want to work for yourself, you must let go of the need for others to take care of you. If you want to create a new love relationship, you musnt brood over past heartaches any longer.

    The message from your master teacher

    To reach for something greater, you must first let go of whats in your hand.


    Destiny xx



  • silverwhisper said on Aug 30, 2007....
    [hug]

    there's a huge amount of things you need to sort through with this, u-i. i hope you will work these things out.

    ed
  • uniquely-ironic said on Aug 31, 2007....
    Destiny - I'm leaving plenty of running room open on this.
     
    SW - yes, huge amounts and I have no idea if this is just an exersize in futility or not.  Perhaps if I'm honest, this is just my way of making sure it's all done.
  • Yaboyndot said on Aug 31, 2007....
    Why is it so hard to distance yourself from the ones who have done you wrong? Every ex-boyfriend or guy that it just didn't work out with I find myself hopelessly attracted to more  after it is over. Love is down right cruel.
     
     
  • skald said on Sep 02, 2007....
    You love him but you don't trust him. You can not imagine life with him. I say don't give in. He´s not what you want. 
  • sdimatti said on Sep 02, 2007....
    This is the truest quote I have ever heard..... The longest road travled is the on between your head and your heart. Take that as you will, best of luck
  • Heba said on Sep 03, 2007....
    He´s not what you want
     
    OK  (no truest = no LOVE )
     
    Do not worry
    You will find other one
  • uniquely-ironic said on Sep 04, 2007....

    Yaboyndot - because even the cruel ones are capable of small kindnesses

    skald - trust is really the issue here, you're right. 

    sdimatti - that quote is dead on, the road is a pain in the ass

    Heba - I have yet to decide

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