• BlueHotRage said on Aug 24, 2007....

  Ted Nugent is a worthless chickenhawk, who's apparently going through his midlife crisis.  Again.

• bloc said on Aug 28, 2007....

  Here is Hannity defending this. 

• stopmediabias said on Sep 03, 2007....

  While I don't agree with what Nugent said I find it funny when a liberal musician goes on a tirade he/she is considered an "activist" but when a conservative does it he is a "bum." 

  You are also missing the point that when people go to a Ted Nugent show they know he is a political activist and an extreme conservative.  Whereas a majority of the liberal musicians just blindside people.  Hannity pointing out Obama's idiot statements makes an interesting comparison on what statement is more damaging to our country.  Nugent is a right-wing nut musician, Obama is suppose to be one of our leaders running for President.

• bloc said on Sep 03, 2007....

  Look into that quote hannity brings up. It's a good example of his (hannity's) lack of integrity.
  
  Unfortunately you missed the point of my post. I am highlighting the hypocrisy of the people like hannity who berate people like the dixie chicks, but say nothing when someone threatens violence against democrats. I've never complained about right wing entertainers so why would I complain about liberal ones?
  

• stopmediabias said on Sep 05, 2007....

  The Dixie Chicks said they what they said about our President while in another country.  To do such a thing during war-time is appalling.  The Dixie Chicks made headlines because they insulted their own fans.

  Hannity and Nugent are friends, of course he is going to stand-up for him and he doesn't have to be fair and balanced, he makes it clear he is a conservative and Colmes makes it clear he is a liberal.  The "fair and balanced" is having both on the show.

• bloc said on Sep 05, 2007....

  yeah, criticizing bush is worse than threatening violence against a democrat :/

• BlueHotRage said on Sep 06, 2007....

  Mediabias wrote: "The Dixie Chicks made headlines because they insulted their own fans."
   
  Actually, the Dixie Chicks made headlines because they insulted Bush.  They said they were ashamed that he was from their state--which is entirely their opinion.  And the were vilified for voicing it.
   
  Take notice: They did not, at any point, command, order, or even so much as ask Bush to orally stimulate their machine guns.
   
  Because they don't frickin' have machine guns in their performances, and threatening their enemies with violence is not how they roll.
   
  As for Ted Nugent, a so-called "political activist" who's gung-ho for this war (which he's conveniently too old to fight in, himself)--despite the fact that he got out of serving in Vietnam by NOT SHOWERING for over a month...
   
  That chickenhawk nutjob can kiss the fattest part of my ass.  Not that he'd ever be caught dead doing it, obviously--but his getting on his knees and personally kissing my ass would be the only draw for me to ever attend one of his so-called "concerts."  I say "so-called" because I doubt the quality of his music has improved much since his Asian child-bride mysteriously disappeared...

• stopmediabias said on Sep 08, 2007....

  Bloc-there is nothing wrong with speaking out against the President, just don't do it in a foreign country.

  BlueHotRage-You might want to look at the facts, the hollywood elite have spent every second of President Bush's term running him into the ground with every possible dig and vile thing they can think of.  The Dixie Chicks are different because their main fan base is country music listeners, who a great majority are President Bush supporters, AND they did it in a foreign country during war-time, that's why it made headlines because a lot of country music stations dumped them.  It would be the same if Sherryl Crow called Al Gore a big fat idiot, might be true but she'd be biting the hand that feeds her.

  As far a Nugent, I care as much about him as I do Michael Savage or Al Franken. 

• bloc said on Sep 08, 2007....

  I don't see how the location of ones statements makes a difference. Did you ever complain when someone spoke out against Clinton from a foreign country? I'm sure I can find many examples for you, and I bet you've voted to reelect some of them!

• silverwhisper said on Sep 08, 2007....

  what difference does it make what an american citizen says whether at home or abroad? why does this little detail trump logic?
  
  ed

• stopmediabias said on Sep 09, 2007....

  Have you ever heard the cliche "air out your dirty laundry," well we don't air out our dirty laundry anywhere but home.

  It doesn't matter who is the victim, Clinton or President Bush, bitch about anyone you want, but do it at home, don't do it in front of a bunch of foreigners, it's taking our freedom of speech for granted. 

   

• bloc said on Sep 09, 2007....

  that makes no sense to me. People have a right to their opinion regardless of where they are standing. I was stationed in Germany for 3 years, was I not allowed to ever criticize our government while I was in Germany? That's nonsensical. 

• silverwhisper said on Sep 10, 2007....

  smb, i wasn't aware that my location determined whether or not my civil liberties WRT to my own government, for which i pay with my taxes, were suspended.
  
  indeed, if anyone is taking the freedom of speech for granted, it's people voicing that argument.
  
  ed

• stopmediabias said on Sep 11, 2007....

  Stop side-stepping, you guys are not that stupid, the Dixies Chicks or Ted Nugent CAN say pretty much anything anywhere, the question is SHOULD they say such things while on foreign soil, no!  It makes them complete assholes who take their country's freedom for granted.  No civil liberties are suspended and no-one is silenced.  You guys cannot deny the Dixie Chicks, considering their main fan-base, were monumentally stupid (not so much all of them, but the one who made the comment) for saying such a thing.

  Look at this way, there are people all over the world who if they spoke like we are about their government would probably get murdered for it.  These people are in sitting where they are watching the Dixie Chicks, Michael Moore, etc.. run America into the ground when it is America that has given them freedom and wealth.  Why don't we just go on TV and show how much food we throw away so we can stick it to starving people.

• bloc said on Sep 11, 2007....

  you aren't making any sense.

• silverwhisper said on Sep 11, 2007....

  your position makes zero sense to me, smb.
  
  ed

• BlueHotRage said on Sep 11, 2007....

  Media bias rarely ever makes any sense.

• stopmediabias said on Sep 12, 2007....

  You guys are in the wrong country.

  Do you people find anything wrong with that spineless trader Dennis Kucinich going over to Syria and running America into the ground?

  It is my opinion that it is bad taste to beat-up on America while in another country, when America gives us the freedom to say what we want.

• bloc said on Sep 12, 2007....

  You seem to think that Bush is America. Criticizing Bush is not the same as Criticizing America, if you disagree ask yourself if you thought the same when Clinton was President!
  
  In addition, our country is founded on the idea of criticizing ones government. This is the core of democracy.
  

• silverwhisper said on Sep 12, 2007....

  we aren't in the wrong country, smb: you are. you want a monarchy set above the populace, not answerable to it.
  
  you forget that the president is the employee of the american citizenry. he is our servant. that's why we get to fire him.
  
  ed

• BlueHotRage said on Sep 13, 2007....

  Kucinich is a "trader"?  Wow, dude, I totally thought he was a politician, or something.  ;)

• bloc said on Sep 13, 2007....

  he trades in ideas ;)

• stopmediabias said on Sep 16, 2007....

  President Bush represents our country,

  Kucinich has no loyalty, and going into Syria and sticking his nose into to places where it doesn't belong during wartime makes him a trader to me.

  If you guys were on a baseball team, say the Yankees and while visiting Boston, would you agree that it is in bad taste to criticize New York? Talk trash while your home is my only point.

  In my neocon monarchy-wanting opinion we as Americans have lost respect for things that are important.  I'm guilty of this as well in that I've said some pretty rotten things about Clinton.  I think we can critcize our leaders without reaching into the gutter to do it and even if we do (which it is our right to do) we should do it at home and only at home. 

• bloc said on Sep 16, 2007....

  Our congress people have roles to play in foreign policy. It's endlessly ironic when you complain about democrats doing their jobs but never complain when republicans do the same things.
  
  The idea that we can only state our opinions in certain locations still makes no sense ot me. Are you saying that I wasn't allowed to state my political opinions during the years I spent in Germany?  I was stationed there while on active duty.
  
  Or maybe you are saying something even more antithetical to democracy; that I can state political opinions, but only if they agree with those in charge.
  

• BlueHotRage said on Sep 16, 2007....

  No one died when Clinton lied.
   
  And he didn't exactly "lie," per se, about Kosovo...
   
  Also, if it's "reaching into the gutter" to tell people one is "ashamed" to share the same state as one's country's leader, then I shudder to think where one would be reaching to say that country's leader had sexual relations with someone else, who is not his wife and yet clearly wanted it, too...

• stopmediabias said on Sep 16, 2007....

  So Bloc you agree with what Kucinich did, go into a radical Islamic country and run your own country into the ground when Syria is related to some of the madness in Iraq.  Some of the things Kucinich says mirror the things the terrorists are saying. 

  "Or maybe you are saying something even more antithetical to democracy; that I can state political opinions, but only if they agree with those in charge."

  Are serious with shit, this is the last time.  Go into a foreign country as an American and say what you want, I don't care, I just think it is in bad taste, that is my opinion, it is obvious it is not yours so you can go join the Jane Fondas and Sean Penns who make money off of America then tear it down every chance they get.

  BLH-People died when Clinton did nothing. 
  

• bloc said on Sep 16, 2007....

  I don't see anything wrong with what kucinich did. I have no idea what you mean by "run into the ground".
  
  more people died when bush did stupid shit like invade Iraq.
  

• silverwhisper said on Sep 17, 2007....

  i see future exchanges are pointless. good day, smb.
  
  ed

• stopmediabias said on Sep 17, 2007....

  Kucinich had no business going to Syria and proclaiming that Iraq is an illegal war, President Bush is a neocon and is wrong, etc..Syria is a radical muslim dominated country, Iraq was part of the same thing.  Syria is our enemy, which when you connect the dots it makes him a spineless weasel who should be thrown out on the street.

  "more people died when bush did stupid shit like invade Iraq."

  What is this?  Again and again again again again................you continue to blame President Bush when everyone urged and voted for the war.  This argument has become so pathetic because it makes you guys look like you really having nothing else to go on.  You know what the truth is yet you spin it right in the other direction.  I'll give you the last word.

  Silver- You & Bloc: It is ok to dis America while in a foreign country  VS Me: It is in bad taste to dis America while in another country.  It's a difference of opinion, It is my right to blow my nose out-load in a restaurant but I choose not to because I believe it is rude, same thing.  In the overall swing of everything America is a source of good in the world and I believe it deserves more respect. 

  
   

• bloc said on Sep 17, 2007....

  your assertion that everyone else pushed the Iraq war just like the Bush admin is delusional.
  
  How do you define "dis"? My guess is that you define it as any opinion about American you disagree with. I'm sure you wouldn't complain if someone went to another country and complained that our taxes are too high. Am I wrong?
  

• stopmediabias said on Sep 20, 2007....

  Bush is a terrorist

  Bush is a warmonger

  Bush is an moron

  America is filled with fat lazy people

  The United States has nothing but stupid white people

  This kind of crap.  And surprising a lot of it comes from the radical left.  Where's the respect and loyalty that this country deserves.

• bloc said on Sep 20, 2007....

  Again you are conflating Bush and America. They are not the same thing. One can say that Bush is a moron and still respect America as a country. Considering Bush's violations of the Constitution I would say that supporting Bush is disrespectful of America.

• silverwhisper said on Sep 23, 2007....

  i like how smb completely focuses only on what the radical left does but cannot even spend a sentence to distance himself from the stupidity of the radical right.
  
  ed

• stopmediabias said on Sep 24, 2007....

  It's become very clear that you guys respect absolutely nothing about your country or the people that live in it.  I could spend numerous sentences trying to explain why you shouldn't call the President of the free world a moron but without actual respect it will do no good.  If President Bush had "violations of the Constitutions" he would have been impeached by now.  When you insert a untrue/unproven statement into an argrument it's like poisoning your credibility and it clogs up the debate.

  Silver..., here are statements I made....

  "While I don't agree with what Nugent said....."

  "the Dixies Chicks or Ted Nugent CAN say pretty much anything anywhere, the question is SHOULD they say such things while on foreign soil, no!  It makes them complete assholes who take their country's freedom for granted"

  "As far a Nugent, I care as much about him as I do Michael Savage or Al Franken."

  Could you be any more wrong?

• bloc said on Sep 24, 2007....

  "If President Bush had "violations of the Constitutions" he would have been impeached by now. "
  
  Do you believe the Constitution gives all americans the right to due process? It's clear as day that Bush not only striped this right from an American, he argued that he has the power to do it to all americans.
  

• silverwhisper said on Sep 24, 2007....

  smb: could you be any more blind? you spend the bulk of every comment whining on and on about the vast left-wing conspiracy, henny penny.
  
  ed

• BlueHotRage said on Sep 24, 2007....

  So you don't care about Nugent, or the Dixie Chicks, or Savage, or Franken.
   
  And yet clearly Media Bias cares deeply about a president... who has launched a war under false pretenses, who has flagrantly allowed his ilk to commit all manner of illegal, unethical, and immoral acts, and is keeping our soldiers hostage until he leaves office.  And who somehow has come to represent America, even though I'm a citizen and I voted for the other guy--so that means I'm automatically required to "respect" him?
   
  And you think he actually deserves my "respect"?
   
  Ba-zitch, please!
   
  I have actually gone out of my way to avoid calling that jackass a "moron"--mostly because I don't think that's the case at all.
   
  Regardless of what kinds of jokes are made about his intelligence, Bush is not stupid.  He got through Yale with straight Cs--those are passing grades, which require work.  No, Bush is not stupid.  He's just in a position where he's not required to think.  So he's usually let other people do the thinking for him.
   
  There's a word for that, buddy, and I believe it's called "half-assing."
   
  And I personally have no respect whatsoever for half-assers, egomaniacs or Chuck Norris (who actually IS a moron).

• stopmediabias said on Sep 25, 2007....

  Good God how did I get in here?

  It is clear that any means of debate is futile, like when someone tried to talk Michael Moore out of eating McDonalds.

  BlueHotRage-Chuck Norris could kick your ass, and I see you read the same garbage as the others in here.

  I give ya last word

• bloc said on Sep 25, 2007....

  smb can't debate the merits of the ideas so he resorts to questioning what we read. Sad!

• BlueHotRage said on Sep 26, 2007....

  Not to mention he clearly hasn't read any of Norris' text-defiling garbage, either.  ;)

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