• exhibit_c said on Aug 22, 2007....

  Good gracious, what was that all about?

• DifficultSoul said on Aug 22, 2007....

  It was about time.

• Battycat said on Aug 22, 2007....

   That was a powerful release, I'm glad you're going to live :-)

• DifficultSoul said on Aug 22, 2007....

  Battycat-...Me too. I had two friends tell me this in the past 3 months. It took me hours of counseling and babying them to get them to snap out of it. It is all they talked about. I became angry. This is my response to them now.
  It is dark and twisted on purpose, to make them THINK!

• MissMimi said on Aug 22, 2007....

  I've been in the dark hole of suicidal depression.  It's horrible.  But sometimes you just need to get swatted upside the head and hear the blunt truth.  I'm glad your friends had you on their side.
   
  Kind of a neat post, DS.  I hope it helps someone.

• DifficultSoul said on Aug 22, 2007....

  MissMimi-...I swatted myself along side of the head a couple of times. It worked on me.  Sometimes we need shock treatment! Thanks for the comment MissMimi. Makes me feel not so alone in here.

• secretlife said on Aug 22, 2007....

  Difficult:  I'm glad.
  Life is worth living-  cliche?  maybe, but true nonetheless.

• Grantlin__Graham said on Aug 22, 2007....

  Suicide is illegal and you may be prosecuted for it. Does that make sense?

  If you commit suicide you may get life in jail! That's better.

  Los Angeles 1999 Man attempts suicide. Attempts to shoot himself. Cop gets in the way and cop gets killed. They try him, found guilty and sentence him to death. That makes sense.

  If you are going to commit suicide, be sure to slit the veins in the arms lengthways and long and deep. Don't leave a note. Let them think you were shaving your armpits and slipped. That way they can't prosecute you.

  Life sucks. Kill yourself now, avoid the rush.

• mobil said on Aug 22, 2007....

  Often people who do kill themselves aren't looking at life as we are now. Life becomes compressed to where they are looking through a narrow hole, like the cardboard when the papertowels are gone.
   
  They can often become europhic and see their plan as the best way to solve their problems. It's a dark place and often a place that is too hard for some to come back from.
   
  So glad you did Dif, so glad...........thank you, I like the way you put this.

• MissMimi said on Aug 22, 2007....

  You are exactly correct, mobil.  You put that very well.  I truly believed that the only way to stop the pain was to run my car into a tree.  Thank God, truly, that I have a very close friend who pushed and bullied me into getting help.  I will always love her for that.

• anonymous said on Aug 23, 2007....

  Not directing this at anyone in particular, just a statement.
  The people who choose this option can see no other alternative. For you, it might seem like an easy choice. Don't. For the others who do try it, it is not that clearly written.
  There are those out there who do it for the attention, I get that.
  There are those out there who do it because they see no way out. They can't see any other option. There is no other way. They get tired of feeling the same way, day in and day out. Always the same. They get tired of the pain, either caused, felt or some combination of both. There is no way out. Things would be so much easier for everyone involved, if you simply were no longer here. They could get on with their lives without you there, holding them down, hurting them. They could finally realize the truth in how bad you were in their lives. With you now gone, things can go to where they need to go.
  Sometimes, there is no other choice.
  

• Mamie said on Aug 23, 2007....

  sorry Anon, I disagree, there is always a choice, but to choose to live at that point is the harder part. Hope springs eternal, right? And sometimes people just need the constant urging of a friend to remind the that there is hope no matter what. That is not to say it is easy and I have not carried the same burden so WTF do I know...but I am reading that the constant is that a suicide would take away the pain, so my question would be...what if there is another way to take that pain away? And shouldn't we try THAT at least once instead....

• gingersoul said on Aug 23, 2007....

  I found some of what Anon says unfortunately true.

  Like Mobil said, a suicidal mind is all wrapped up in its own suicidal thoughts and it takes a lot to drag that person out of that dark place. What if that person doesn't have ONE single friend to help? What if that person is at his/her extreme and cant take it anymore?

  I can understand suicidal thoughts even though i am sure i will never kill myself. 

  But when we say .. they just need a friend, they just need to believe, they just need to snap out of it.....

  Well....there are a lot of people who doesn't have one single friend, who doesn't have faith, who seems just unable to snap out of it.

  Mamie,..... you are righgt talking about options BUT who is considering suicide sees that like an option because all the other ones failed.

  What if Mimi didn't have that close friend to help her? Will she be here now talking about suicide?

  Diffi.........i completely agree that many people can be extremely exasperating with their childish cry for attention....i think who is really suicidal doesnt go around alerting the world about their intentions...

  they silently  do it...

   

• Me-Myself&I said on Aug 23, 2007....

  i have felt the sting of depression for a few years, while back.....but a friend
  of mine said something that ...at the time,  i did not want to hear cause i was rolling in self-pity!!
  He said....when i am crying over having no shoes ...just
  look around and you can see some with no feet! anyway, i see now.....but i needed help to see
   too! i hope and pray for ANYONE who has felt that down
  and out!! it is a cry of help, and if one sees someone hurting like that ...well,
  they best hold out their hand to help. Bless the weary and sick!!

• mobil said on Aug 23, 2007....

  Part of the problem with suicide and the person who commits it, it that no one around them or close to them even knows the person is in such a state. I had a lawyer friend who planned his demise, no one knew, not his wife or his friends. He had a business problem, he was as honest a man as I've even known. The business problem was going to cause financial hardship for many of his associates.
   
  The weekend he killed himself, he was euphoric, he bbq'd steaks, laughted and his wife and friends thought him in the best of spirits. Why? Because he had found his way out of this mess. His wife and friends left their summer cabin and he was to follow, he didn't.
   
  This is what I mean by a mindset that we who are thinking normally cannot understand. It's not about being chicken shit, yes, sometimes it's about grabbing attention, but most of those attention getters are still with us.
   
  This is about convoluted thinking and I know two other young people and two other adults  here and their families who this happened to. Not an inkling by friends and relatives that this was about to happen. It's such a difficult thing to understand and in many cases shows no warnings. Sometimes depression the only indication and often the depression lifts before a euphoric state kicks in.

• DifficultSoul said on Aug 23, 2007....

  Where were all of you these last 3 months? I could have used your help with my friends. I posted a cry for advice  to help my friends, at another blog site. Hardly no one responded. Everyone was too busy trying to get a date over there!

  You all make such good points.

  Now you understand why I wrote such a dark and twisted poem. I tried it all with my friends. Kindness, understanding , compassion, gave my time to just listen. The only thing that really had an effect was an attitude that I portrayed in this entry. I used some scolding on both of them and took the pity away. They were drowning in self pity.

  This is my twisted life raft to those in dark places.

  I have lived there before, in that darkness.

  I used a Rebel YELL!

  I guess you can say, I am a warrior for Light.

  Do pray, those of you who do.......

  There are so many hurting people in this world.

  With no one to listen or to care.

  I care.

• DifficultSoul said on Aug 23, 2007....

  Can you all tell that I found my Billy Idol CD? hehe!

• Pontius_Pilate said on Aug 27, 2007....

  Now to quote...
  <quote=Suddenran>
  Suicide Will Kill You!
  </endquote>
  
  My reply to that, Only if you're lucky.
  

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