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I had my first vocal reaction toward my ex husband after two years from our divorce.
You might say...honey, it took you so long?
 
Well, see, its a long story.
 
I did try to exchange with him my concerns and worries many times in the past. Concerns about his way of dealing (not dealing, better) with our daughter's extreme sensitiviness, neediness of him as father, longing to be still recognized as his first and only daughter for 10 long years (all her life, basically) and now being "forced"  to be equalized to other two kids.
 
I did it thru emails.
It seemed a more neutral field for me because for a long time after the divorce i couldn't even stand the sound of his (still loved) voice and looking in his eyes was (still) a torture for me.
So i decided to write him extremely detailed, polite, reasonable emails but i couldn't avoid to be sharp and precise. And naturally since i was talking about truths he was refusing to hear and actions he was refusing to be sorry for his reaction didnt surprise me. 
 
After some of them he finally threw in my face the List of His Holy Priorities (exactly in this order):
God
His new wife (new boobs included)
His 3 children (all of them, no favoritism)
work
And please, he added, stay the fuck out of my life.
 
I was asking him to understand how hurt his daughter was and how rejected she was feeling. He just couldnt get it.
So i had to to force him to go to counseling with her, thru my lawyer.
Only after 10 meetings she accepted to finally see his new family (so much she was resisting  the idea).
 
While exchanging these emails, his new bimbo-wife one day wrote me that i had to stop "harrassing " him, that he was a wonderful father and husband, that i had never understood him and i was basically a jealous, controlling bitch.
I wrote her back telling no to dare to read my private emails to my ex anymore and never, ever write to me again.
If she would have done i wouldn't even take the time to read her junk.
She evidently went boo-booing to him.
So he wrote me telling he was the one letting her reading our emails. So face it.
 
I stopped emailing him about our daughter. It was clearly useless.
I stopped trying to make him understand.
I just couldn't deal with his shit.
i felt hurt in my pride too. 
I disappeared.
 
My only form of communication since that moment has been quick txt messages. Rare strictly business-like emails about our daughter's expenses that he is always late to pay me back.
There was no point to talk with somebody who had denied me voice and importance.
When he rarely calls my home phone number i dont even pick up.
I call her and she picks up the phone. I know he is not calling me for sure.
But i also bought her a cell so they can talk more freely. I did for her, not for him.
 
But this week end I had to let my steam out .
Vocally.
 
Friday he was supposed to pick her up at 4pm.
At 5:45 he wasn't here yet. She was ready by two hours. And asking where he was.
So I text messaged him asking when he would have showed up and that it would have been polite to alert me in time of any changes. I have a life too, you see.
He didnt' have the courtesy to text message me back and at least saying he was sorry to be late but  he called her telling he wasnt coming at all.
I could see her sad face while she was pretending everything was ok.
So i told her "Pass me the phone".
 
 
I heard he wasn't happy to talk with me.
He gave me the same standard set of excuses he had been giving me for years while we were married: late at  work, didnt see it was too late, i thought i had to pick her up later, i am working here not having fun.
How many times you can hear the same thing?
I cut him short. 
I told him to come to pick her up after work then. He said it would have been too late (9pm is too late for him now....the same guy who would have showed at home past midnight on week nights telling he had been working all that time? Smelling of beer....btw....)
I said, she is ok with that. Its not too late.
How more could i still be accomodating?
But i also told him: do you ever consider i might have had plans for this evening since you had to pick her up in the afternoon?
He said, it will be too late for me driving there and then home.
I said , I didn't choose to build my new home in the middle of nowhere far from my daughter's place, like you did. Now you have face the consequences. She has no fault.
And then it arrived........BUT I AM WORKING!
Ah, the magic word.
 
And i leashed out  "And i have a life too, a life that doesnt revolve anymore around yours"
 
He didn't bulge. Fine, he said, i will call a friend to pick her up. She will sleep at his home and tomorrow he will bring her to my home.
No way. She doesn't go anywhere, sleeping in other people homes. She will stay here and you come to pick her up tomorrow. 9:45 sharp.
 
And i hung up.
 
I felt so good.
I felt so sad
It felt so pointless, and sad.
When i went to her room my daughter was crying.
She said she was feeling like her father didn't care about her to the point of driving few miles more to stay with her, she said she didn't feel wanted in their home, she said.....she said so many things that broke my heart.
I told her that her father loved her very much, that he had been having this kind of behavior regardless the who and the when, that when he works he forgets time and everything, that i never liked it either.
 
I wiped her tears and i did what any mom would have done.
I brought her shopping for a new pair of shoes.
 
When we were driving back home she held my hand and told me "Thank you, mom. I do feel better. Its not for the shoes (that are cool, btw) but because you showed me you care for me and you tried to distract me".
 
Shoes are good. We like shoes.
Sometimes anything is good to wipe tears from you kid's cheeks.
 
Sometimes I still hate my ex.
Still, i cant say i had purified my heart from the anger and the resentment.
I sometimes simply have to feel this hate.....for him, for having left us, for having changed my life, for his new wife, new home, new life, new friends....everything is new, new, new for him........while i am still stuck in this old feelings.
 
i know its bad for me.
i know i have to clean myself from these bad feelings.
But sometimes its just good to hate him.
Its good.....after buying a pair of shoes, imagining to walk all over him.
 
Do you still have bad feelings toward your ex?   


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  • mobil said on Aug 20, 2007....
    I don't have an ex Gingerbread, and it is sad that this happened to you and your little girl. As I read all that you wrote here, I could feel your hostility towards this man.
     
    When I came to the end, the part where you say;
    I know this is bad for me
    I know I have to clean mysef from these bad feelings
     
    This is the part I agree with you about Gingerbread, forgive him and move on. You've been far too long with the hate. The hate has eaten holes in you, it's holding you back in your life.
     
    Whenever we hate someone, it's not them who gets the hurt from it, it's us, the hater, we get the full brunt of our hate. It can make us physically sick Gingerbread, hate works like that in our bodies.
     
    I've been reading about your hate for a long time now. I don't want to see this make you sick Gingerbread. That you are a good person, there is no doubt, you've been hanging on to hate too long. Set yourself free, really free, forgive this man and live again...........
  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    Mobil......thank you so much for your words....i truly appreciate them...{{hugs}}.

    I agree with you. This hate is still lingering here......but believe me when i say that now its a kind of hate that sprouts for what i see him doing to our daughter. Not to me. I am strong. I made it up to here. I found my reasons and his reasons.

    I just would like to be even stronger for her.

    Its difficult to sort these emotions and be objective when you see your kid crying over a father. I might even understand, again and again, that his way is not all due to insensitivess...

    but i am like a lioness with her cub...don't touch her, don't make her cry...i will get to your throat. 

    I am working very hard in setting me free, Mobil, in any way...financially and emotionally.......i know how hate can lead to hate ourself and to depression and to loose sight of our dreams....but, as i said...sometimes its just too good to let the steam out ....

    Thank you, my friend.

      

  • MissMimi said on Aug 20, 2007....
    I'm sorry your ex still hurts you, but I'm especially sorry that he continues to hurt your daughter.  Every child deserves to feel loved by their father, and it's a shame he's so clueless about this. 
     
    mobil's right Ginger.  Your hate will eat you alive if you let it.  Believe me, I have been where you are.  I know what it feels like to hate someone because they've hurt you.  But it was damaging me.  I had to forgive simply because I was becoming a bitter cynical woman, and that's not me.  I did it for me, not for him.
     
    It's not you, either.  I've seen you show great compassion and kindness to others.  You have a good heart.  Try to let the anger go, for your own sake.
     
    Your daughter is blessed to have you for her mom.   
  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    Mimi.....i have worked a lot this past year to understand why i am still dragged down by this feeling...,,and i know that if i didnt have my daughter i would have already moved on completely, successfully with my life.

    But i see my daughter beign hurt and crying and struggling because of his choices.And i also know i have to be careful in not blaming it all to him.....sometimes she does overeact ....

    Its what i see her going thru that stir up these feelings in me....

    I am not bitter or cynical, i am still open to love ...... i might still have to walk some more before finding the right direction but in my heart i know this shall pass.....sometimes it just takes too long though...{{hugs}}

  • dailyachesandpains said on Aug 20, 2007....
    Ginger!!!!
    You know how I feel about your ending questions....
     
    It does feel SO good to just let it rip!  It's so sad that your daughter has to suffer through what he did to you!  I'm so glad you spoke up, one can only remain silent for so long.  Remaining silent, IMO, makes him think he's still in control.  You showed him!  You also showed Little Ginge that her mom has a voice and that you are there to protect her in any way.
     
    Bye the way, when I had a boyfriend break-up and was really upset over it, my 80 year old grandmother at the time said, "Go shopping honey, you will feel better.  Shopping is as expensive as a therapist, but you can't wear a therapist that makes you feel good!"  I wish she was still alive to tell me some more funny, but true things! 
     
    {{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}
    Daily
  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    Daily...{{hugs}}...oh, girl...you grandma was a wise woman indeed ...LOL....

    yes, i know how you feel about that question. As you said, we are big enough to take control of our feelings but when our kids are involved so deeply everything get mixed up.

    She is starting now to grab the vastity of what a divorce means in terms of changing one person life, perspective, dreams. She is older and with more sensitiviness comes also more perception and understanding. She is starting to ask me more and more specific details about why we divorced, how and when it started.

    Now ...in answering these questions lay a lot of my personal cleaning too, i believe. Not letting any bad feelings weigh and alter the clarity of what she will perceive and the story of her parents.  Its a challenge. 

  • Battycat said on Aug 20, 2007....
    That's terrible, I feel for you, and especially your daughter, I'm supprised you held your feelings in for so long.
  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    Batty......thank you for stopping by....

    You know, i held them in front of him and in front of my daughter. I had to.

    But i had my outlets though...my friends know very well how many times i called them and vent my frustrations .....they have been my source of strenght and sanity many times...:-) 

  • dailyachesandpains said on Aug 20, 2007....
    Well, Gingerkins...you're not going to believe this one!
     
    Shortly after I typed that message to you, I got a call.  My Niece.  Her FATHER has FINALLY called her after a year!!!!!  She told him off!  He lied and lied saying that he's tried to call her over and over and she told him straight out that he lied.  She told him that she looks up the phone records of incoming calls (we can do that with our phone service we have and do it over the internet) and NOT ONCE was his number there!  She asked him "Who told you it was my birthday today?" 
     
    I'm actually proud of her, she's never stood up to him until today.  He's always acted like the child and she's always acted like the parent.  Bye the way...there are 2 half siblings too in her life.  They get all the attention and anything they want.  She's just there when he needs a babysitter and obviously he hasn't needed one for a year now!  She does miss her half siblings though.
     
    {{{HUGS}}}
    Daily
  • beyondtheveil said on Aug 20, 2007....
    ginsoul- I would want them to be together when possible and for her to have a father who cared, as you do. And I know you have worked a long time to make this happen.

    It is very difficult to not have bitterness in this situation because your daughter is being hurt. But I also think the best thing to do is try to accept it. You aren't going to change him. I'm sure you will continue to get them together as much as possible and protect her as you can.

    And protecting her may take something that also tastes bitter. I think you need to make as many excuses for him as it takes. Try to build the feeling that her father truly loves her, but has problems of his own with working so much and keeping up with his own family. In other words, lie out your butt if you have to.

    Bitter? Yes. But remember, its not for him, nor for you. It is for her.

    I don't have any other answer that might help. You can blow off as much steam as you want to, right here.


  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    Daily.......i hope my daughter's situation will never turn out to be so painful and dramatic like this...

    Good for your niece to stood up and tell him what she was feeling. This is my goal for my daughter. When she complains with me about him i always say that she has to tell him too because if she keeps smiling at him he will always think everything is ok. When its not.

    She is getting more and more vocal about him recently...as i said, she is growing up and she understands better. She has eyes to see the differences and the reasons behind the words.

    i am glad for your niece....{{{hugs}}}

    what a coincidence, eh?...:-D

  • uniquely-ironic said on Aug 20, 2007....
    Oh yeah!  Bad feelings don't begin to cover it.  Any human who puts that much effort into hurting me and by the same action hurting their own children deserves every negative feeling I can muster.
     
     
  • sweet_cookie01 said on Aug 20, 2007....

    I have many times blocked out all the negative feelings i have for my ex, sometimes they do resurface but i am more emotionally mature now not to let it get too much of my life.... but when it comes to my daughter, when she says something that broke her heart and i dont think any mother can tolerate that, it makes me want to shoot him in the center of balls!!!....LOL...

    a couple of weeks ago he and my daughter were chatting and i happen to sneak in and remind him that i needed his financial help with our daughter because i have been sick lately, he was so flirtatious that it made wanted to throw up... and in the same time it reminded me that i did the right thing leaving him!!!

  • vacantmind said on Aug 20, 2007....
    Wow, you and I both had Ex posts. I don't hate my ex though. 10 years have past since our break-up, the anger I once felt has dissipated.
  • evil_twin said on Aug 20, 2007....
    I'm sorry to hear your ex is giving you trouble. I don't blame you for getting angry. His behavior is so selfish. I don't think he really understands what he's doing to his own daughter. But I'm glad you made her feel better with new shoes. That usually seems to make women feel better, doesn't it? :-P

    As for my ex girlfriend, I do still have negative thoughts about her sometimes. But I try not to dwell because that time in my life is over. I'm just lucky that we never got married and had kids, because then it would be a lot harder for me to pretend she never existed in my life.

    -evil_twin LA
  • destinydiva said on Aug 20, 2007....
    ginger i can so relate to this .....  my heart aches for you..... 
    you just keep those new shoes thoughts girl!!!!  :-)
    my ex is the same...we are in the early stages but it gets worse by the day, today even i had a huge rah rah rah with him.... i really honestly understand xxxx
  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    Unique.....so you can relate.... :-)

    Sweet.....yes, absolutely. I can be the big girl i have to be .....but you dont hurt my daughter......they have no faults for our personal messed up lives... oh, you did the right thing, dont doub it....

    Vacant.......  i went to comment to your last post actually about the open wounds..it seemed to flow in the same direction than this one.....so now i am going to read yours too...:-)..

    Yes, 10 years is a long time. Maybe you would like to read my previous post about the opposite emotion: forgiviness. That ex of  more than 10 years ago about whom i talk there has been forgiven by me too... thanks for stopping by....;-)

  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    ETweenie....no, he doesn't really get her at all. Actually, when i was trying to make him understand he accused me of trying only to control his life  and dictate his behaviors. So childish.... 

    If i didnt have my kid i would have already put him in a box......all wrapped up.... and surely once in a while i would have let him out and shed some tears over the long gone days....then i would have put him back in the box.....

    but with a child in the picture is so darn complicated....

  • sweetsoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    oh Ginger, my sons are both parents and just today I was talking to a new friend about my ex. Reminded me about all the ways my ex was a poor Dad...both in actions and financially.

    Part of my comment was that there were many things I could forgive him for but the hardest was for how much he hurt our sons by constantly disappointing them when he once again called to say he wasn't taking them for the weekend. He used to be a coward and have me tell them. I stopped that and forced him to talk directly to them and tell them himself. It gave them an opportunity for them to respond to him directly...let him hear their disappointment. I'd still have the job of picking up the pieces trying to make them feel better, but it forced him to see the result of his actions.

    What I found was that my sons reacted differently. One just loved his Dad so much he was willing to accommodate his Dad's whims. The other, loving his Dad tremendously too, would turn it back on his Dad and tell his Dad he wasn't able to come for the weekend, especially when his Dad wanted him to...which was usually to babysit or help him move.

    What happened eventually though Ginger is their Dad paid for it. Neither of his sons are close to him, they see him out of duty and infrequently, and they've used his example as a 'how not to' be a good Dad.

  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    SSoul....its really nice to read you again...:-)

    You hit the soft spot: like you, i always been the one cushioning for my daughter the consequences of my ex's behavior. When he was late, when he wasn't even coming at home at night, when he was forgetting a date with her or a place where he promised to bring her...i was always there putting honey of it and smoothing  her disappointment away.

    I did it for many years. She has been spared the fact that for 6 months her father didn't live with us at all. Yes, i covered up for her.

    How?  She was already used to his day long absences...during that time in which he moved out of the house i made him come back to visit her at least at night so she could still see him and he could put her in bed. But even though...he wasn't there each night.......i could write a book about it....

    What i keep telling to myself when he still now disappoints her and makes her cry is that in the long run this girl will understand everything. And she will choose the parent she will trust the most.

    Thank you for your comment. {hug}  

  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    Destiny.....sorry, i skipped your comment......

    Ex are useful only for one thing: choose better the next time...lol...

    Oh yeah, these shoes are made to walk....:-D 

  • secretlife said on Aug 20, 2007....

    i think i hate your ex right now too.

    just the idea that he can be so irresponsible makes me want to smack him upside his head-

    i hope that you keep track of these things- documented ginger.

    because the day will come when you want to move away from him, and if he's not responsible with his visits, then why should you go out of your way to stay in Texas?

    it's easy to say forgive, ignore, don't let him bother you anymore...but when you have to see him hurt your child, the wounds are re-opened over and over again.

    i see this.

  • vacantmind said on Aug 20, 2007....
    I have read some of your other posts. We have some very similar history. Glad to have found a comrad.
  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2007....

    Secret......i knew you would have backed me up on this...{hug}........

    you know , this suggestion you give about documenting his lack of responsability.....i have other friends that are suggesting the same..because, its exactly like i feel..i am stretching all my way to stay here so she can be close to him and this is what we have in change....

    Yes, i do this: i find reasons to move on, not forgetting but at least not being upset any more by his choices and then...when i see her crying its just too much..everything mounts again inside me, like the tide ....

    Vacant......this is good...:-) 

  • wakingharmony said on Aug 20, 2007....
    Oh Ginger I know that hurt for your Child.. my Daughters father had 2 other children that he didnt take responsibility for either. He was married to her 1st . But God Gave This Wonderful Soul for me to love... when she ws Smaller she told me that she picked me to be her mommy.. I was like "You Did?? Why was I the lucky one to get you as My last Baby Girl... she said "Because I knew you'd Love Me Best!"  Her father and his Mother have hurt her dearly and she really wants nothing to do with them......I just assure her that her Daddy Loves Her...I know It... he just does not know how to Show it......she was created in love Even if his children are the only thing.
  • wakingharmony said on Aug 20, 2007....
    sorry hit enter ......anyway i have the best part of him Angela and that is Something good
  • Mamie said on Aug 20, 2007....
    aw, GingerSoul, girlie girl...this story hurt my heart! I am sorry for the mistreatment of you and your daughter. It is very disrespectful and I can see why you are fuming mad!
     
    I was mad, mad, mad at some people in my family for a mighty long time. After awhile, I realized that they were either unwilling or unable to love me the way I needed and wanted them to.
    If they are unwilling then what can I change? Nothing.
    If they are unable, then what can I change? Nothing, and worse, it is not their fault per se. (worse becoz I want to blame them for hurting me).
     
    But I made what I call a "life decision" which is what I call what I do when I make a decision even though it does not logically line up with what I am seeing and feeling either emotionally or intellectually.
     
    I made a life decision to change me. I offered the changed point of view to my daughter too, so that she could make the decision on her own and no longer be a victim to the bullshit.
    The change I made was.... to not expect them to do anything at all for me. Not love me, not like me, not need me....nor me with them. I am independant of them, their circumstances and their life patterns. I did this for myself because they hurt me the other way and I was no longer willing to give them any control over my life, my feelings, or the way my day turned out.
    Once I did that (and it did take some time and practice), then I loved them because that is who "I" am...it is not always perfect and never fool proff, but it works for me...I hope these ideas will give you some things to think on....love you! M
     
  • Eilan said on Aug 20, 2007....
    Most of the time, I don't hate my ex.  However, he has a tendency to not make plans for visitation until the last minute (like the night before).  This makes it difficult for us to make any plans for the weekend because we never know what he's going to want to do.  I talked to him about it once, and things improved for a while, but they're back to the way they were.
  • kruuyai said on Aug 21, 2007....
    ginger, I don't have any words of wisdom.  I just want to say that I think it would be really hard to have to keep dealing with your ex for so many years after the breakup because of having a child that links you together... even under the best of circumstances.  But it's even worse when the ex is as selfish as yours is.  The thing is.. he doesn't have to see her when she's sad and disappointed and hurt over his not showing up for her.  The next time he sees her, she'll be happy to see him again and not thinking of the hurt, so you have to bear all the parental burden of this, which isn't fair.  It's hard to move on and forgive when the wounds are still being inflicted on a regular basis.  You do paint a different picture here than what I was hearing several months  ago when your daughter was so excited about her own room in the new house and having a new baby sibling.  I wonder how attached she'll continue to be to her father if he keeps treating her this way.  Unfortunately, rejection often only serves to strengthen our desire to overcome it.  I hope this doesn't translate into her adopting self defeating behaviors in her future relationships.  I think it was extremely wise of you to get the court ordered counseling for him and your daughter.  You're doing the most you could possibly do under the circumstances.  And your feelings?  Well, you just feel what you feel.  
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 21, 2007....
    GS, that little boy of an ex doesn't deserve you. and yes, definitely document everything.

    you and LG should talk about the crappy "parenting skills" demonstrated by your respective exes some time.

    ed
  • gingersoul said on Aug 21, 2007....

    Waking.......that girl is really lucky to have you...

    Mamie....i agree with you....if someone is unwilling or/and unable to understand and thinks that their way is the best there is really anything to do.

    I have accepted this. I know by day one he is "dead" for me for all those things he used to "alive" for me. But for me a parent should never stop to be a parent, no matter what. No matter who is the new person in their life. And being a good parent is not giving stuff...its paying attention to the little details , the looks, the silence that tell you how happy is your kid and what can you do better for them.  

    Simple like that. And when he doesn't deliver, the anger rises.  

    Thank you, Mamie.

     

  • gingersoul said on Aug 21, 2007....

    Eilan......oh yes..they have a clock and a schedule all of their own.....:-)

    KruuKruu...oh, yes..The New Room.....it turned out that its not exactly like they promised it........not all......she can't paint (because if they want to change colors in the future..?....it will cost too much....?.....), they didn't let her pick the furniture (she got their old bedroom drawer). But its ok, she said. At least she doesn't have to share it anymore with her stepsister. 

    What you said is the burning point: she knows i will never leave her so she lets out all her emotions with me. But with him...oh, she is always the smiling girl, the one who says everyything is ok....she is scared he might leave her again.  I hope she will not grow with a healthy relationship toward love and men. Fathers are so central in a girl emtoional development. {hug}

    SW....lol......little boy....this is a good one.....thank you..

     

  • Alyss said on Aug 21, 2007....
    Ginger, I can feel your anger and am sad for your daughter that he did this to her. You are a good parent, a great Mum and she will understand how you are doing your best for her and she will remember.

    Am I angry with my soon to be ex? Yes and No. Yes because I still can't believe that he wouldn't fight, that he just gave up and that he continues not to put his children first and No because what does anger achieve? Nothing in the end. It's best to let it go and get on with living, don't you think?
  • gingersoul said on Aug 21, 2007....

    Alyss.......you are right...i agree....and i wish you to have a better relationship with your soon to be ex....

    Several factors had prohibited us to build it...i know that he was sorry in his way for the end of our marriage, i know he was convinced to do the right think for himself and he had a pregnant woman forcing him to take quick and even painful decision against me. Its all in the past. .

    Hope you wil be able to do better....even though its just a little easier letting go when you are the one who doesn't love anymore. Thank you {hug}.

     

  • Alyss said on Aug 21, 2007....
    Ah Ginger, but I do love him. It's just that loving him without him loving me in return isn't enough.
  • gingersoul said on Aug 21, 2007....

    Alyss.... in this way everything is so much more complicated......but you are right.....being loved a inch less than how much we love is never enough.... 

  • DifficultSoul said on Aug 21, 2007....
    I am so sorry. This brings me tears to my eyes. The horrid pain you must feel. I now see what you mean about telepathic messages. It is hard to love someone like that and have them treat you so flippantly.
    You truly are special to be able to speak of him so kindly still. He did not kill your Spirit. Strong woman you are.
    Best wishes for peace for your troubled mind.
    Hey, we both chose SOUL to be part of our screenname. Sweet.
  • gingersoul said on Aug 21, 2007....

    Diffi......yes, i noticed that too about our names...:-))

    Thank you for your nice words and for your wishes.

    I would like to be even stronger for my daughter. But this mommy sometimes feels just too tired.

  • hotaka said on Aug 22, 2007....
    What can I say that hasn't already been said? It sucks that you can't just cut him out for good because your daughter still ties you to him. I guess his bullshit is something you have to take from time to time. Well, you don't have to take it. You are going to get it but you don't have to take it. Maybe his new wife thinks he's perfect. Whatever. You can still stand up for yourself and for your daughter. I say good one, ginger. Put him in his place when he behaves disrespectfully to you and your daughter. He can still treat you like a human being.
  • gingersoul said on Aug 22, 2007....

    Hotbabe......thank you.......hey, can i kick him in the ass toward Japan next time?....LOL.....

    you wil have only to kick him in the arms of an expert Sumo wrestler or a skilled Samurai....your choice....{{hugs}}

  • Fire_01 said on Aug 22, 2007....

    Ginger....Baby.....Dammit, life is not easy. Words does not fix feelings. You have to be VERY strong. 

    F1

  • gingersoul said on Aug 22, 2007....
    Fire......yes, words dont fix that much, you are right....thank you....:-)
  • moonriver said on Aug 23, 2007....
    ginger -- although my situation is too different from yours, i've gone through similar hurts that produced deep-seated anger and resentment. i can't tell you to just grin and bear it, and neither can i tell you to toast him relentlessly in your fire and brimstone. (although, like you said, it's good to lash out sometimes.) you can harness those zillion volts in so many ways. i wrote an amateur post about this long long ago. I don't even know if it applies in this case. ... :-)

  • vivian2007 said on Aug 24, 2007....
    I divorced my ex- 2 years ago. Frankly speaking I still have bad feeling towards him. However the situation becomes better because I just met another nice guy on wealthyromance.com. Now we get engaged.
  • gingersoul said on Aug 24, 2007....

    Moon......i went to the post you linked and i was banging my head on the wall of your blog (btw.....ouch, what are they made of? bamboo?......) and i couldn't believe i didnt post there earlier.

    I must have been distracted in some other posts...or not yet captured by the web of your tantalizing prose....eheheh....

    Vivian.......ok, i gotcha...stop pestering my post with the advertising of that site. If you want to leave a comment, you are more than welcomed. But leave that ad out of my posts. Thank you. 

  • moonriver said on Aug 24, 2007....
    ginger -- don't bang your pretty head too much on those walls, my sweet friend. they're made of flimsy monkey bamboo. too much banging can cause a collapse. and we don't want an embarrassing accident of that magnitude, do we...lol.

    i was an absolute newbie (a 2-day old sc newbie, to be exact) when i wrote that blog. you have an exquisitely fine-tuned radar, yes. but my tiptoe style of stealth blogging can easily evade detection... if i wanted to... ;-)

  • queenparanoia said on Sep 03, 2007....
    ginger as i read this i want to strangle your ex!!! what the fuck is wrong with him? i feel sad for your daughter. i hope she'll realize that she is truly love. but at the same time i'm happy that she got you! a one great mom!!! =)
  • gingersoul said on Sep 03, 2007....

    Moon.....ok, i will not bang my head against your blog walls again..

    just let the door open...i will slip in when you less expect me....:-)

    Queenie.....thank you, my girl.

    Do you want his new address? You could be my international killer that went from the East.......dont have mercy.....lol....{{hugs}}

  • queenparanoia said on Sep 04, 2007....
    hahahahaha you'll never know ginger... =)
  • Daniel68 said on Sep 09, 2007....
    Vivian is a shill for wealthyromance.com. Placed here to stump for the site, she name drops it everywhere she goes. Somebody needs to get the SC Staff to delete the account and ban the IP range it's coming from.

    As for your story, I know it's bad. I'm a guy, and I know what he's feeling. His daughter reminds him in every way of his failure, and of you. He has two new kids with a wife who loves him and has big bimbo tits.

    I hate to say this, but secretly this guy really doesn't want anything more to do with you or your daughter, but he himself can't face that fact and the social stigma that would come from officially turning his back on both of you. Plus he feels resentment over paying support for something he gets nothing from.

    I'll tell you this - coming from the male side of this equation - if you get your daughter to resent and hate him, or your daughter reads this blog and knows YOU hate him - it will make the problem worse. Once he senses his daughter is slipping away and beginning to hate him, he may just break contact or really take it out on your daughter in a very direct way by making her feel as she is 2nd class to his two new kids.

    It's a tough situation, and I hate to say this - but the guy isn't going to wake up to what's happening.


  • gingersoul said on Sep 09, 2007....

    Daniel...thank you for you long and honest comment.....

    I completely agree with you...

    He had already free himself and his conscience from the past. He is a reborn man. In more than one meaning. Alleluja!

    I am not expecting anymore for him to understand me and my problems or take a side to me. Even though he migth have some vague intention about it, bimbo-wife is there to catch any weakness in him. She knows she got a cheating man in her bed. She is controlling every single breath he takes......

    I can't care less....and as you say, i am more than careful in not showing my feelings to my daughter. But guess what? She has a brain of her own and she sees behaviors and listens to comments and compares values and people....i have noticed in these last months hwo she is turned more and more talkative abouut her disliking for some aspects of her life with them whe she stays with them.

    I believe she has liberated herself from the guilty she was feeling any time she was critizing her father. She is growing.

    Nobody can't stop her from choosing as well as putting thoughts in her brain.

    Thank you also about Vivian...recently i didnt see her around anymore....maybe we have scared her...LOL..

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A hate crime? Or just a white girl getting raped?...
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