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a few months ago, a friend and i were talking about the flamewar du jour: someone, i forget who, was posting attack blogs. this happens every few months or so to me but i pay it no mind b/c the simple truth is that i’m an opinionated person and i’m bound to ruffle a few feathers here or there.

during our conversation, i observed that if someone were stupid enough to post attack blogs about CW, he or she would instantly become a pariah, b/c CW has always been to me one of soulcast’s most courageous bloggers: she blogs from her heart and makes herself vulnerable. and she goes right on doing it, day in, day out. people would stop reading the idiot and simply ignore him/her/it.

but what particularly spurred me to write this installment in the series was a blog entry by bronx. or to be more specific, a few paragraphs towards the end of the article to which he linked.

the BBC article quoth:
and if people start writing poetry about themselves in their out of office messages, it could be because people are less self-conscious in e-mails than they would be in real life.

without any of the usual social cues from a conversation, such as body language and tone of voice, e-mailers lose their embarrassment radar, suggests carolyn axtell of the institute of work psychology at the university of sheffield. “they can lose their inhibitions and become less concerned about how they will be evaluated. so people might say things on e-mail that they might not otherwise say.”

this explains why people get so aggressive in e-mails, she says, and also why e-mails, blogs and networking websites are so full of “self-disclosure”– and how people are willing to tell strangers their whereabouts on an out of office message.

while i don’t use this space to talk about myself very much, i’m in the minority that way: most soulcasters do, revealing some intensely personal things about themselves. and i admire that about you guys. it takes courage to say these things about yourselves.

in another of my online haunts, a friend finally recognized that he has a bias against a certain group. he posted a discussion thread confessing it, and you know something? he gained more of my respect for having the stones to see it and admit it. that too took courage.

the act of blogging involves pouring out some measure of who you are into something that not just your friends, but complete strangers will read. we blog for ourselves: there’s something within us that needs to get out.

so when i see some of my favorite people leaving SC for having been vulnerable and being burned by it, that both angers and perplexes me. it angers me b/c that means good people are being driven off by bottom-dwellers, and it perplexes me b/c i fear it means that people are losing sight of the fact that once you commit something to the internet, you..commit something to the internet.

i prefer to think that people make themselves vulnerable here b/c they know that’s what they’re doing, and know the full ramifications. i recently became aware that isn’t true in at least one case i know of and that saddens me.



so how courageous are you about how you blog here? are you tightly-zipped up, never saying anything personal or revealing? or do you let it allhang out? maybe you walk some line in the middle? or haven’t you considered the prospect that what is said on SC can be read by anyone and everyone that has an internet connection? comment and let me know.

ed

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  • thenack said on Aug 15, 2007....
    Hey SW
     
    Personally I am carefull of what I write. If I'm going to be arguing points, there shouldn't be something that contradics me 30 posts back.
     
    People should get that the same reason that makes them feel safe to open up (no-face, just words) is the same reason why some people are quick to critisize.
     
    So if you're gonna do it, expect varied opinions, drop the ones you don't like, stand up for yourself, or consider the advice. No need to run away, its easy enough to ignore a digital dumbass.
  • Alyss said on Aug 15, 2007....
    Somewhere in the middle.

    I do share personal things, sometimes very personal things, but I am very careful to avoid identifying myself or my family. Of course were someone to read what I'd written and know me personally IRL there's quite enough information for them to join the dots themselves so yes, I am aware of the risk and I weigh the pros and cons of posting fairly regularly.
  • rightwingwizard said on Aug 15, 2007....

    Considering that I have often loudly proclaimed that I do not, shall not reveal much of myself on this or anyother interactive site and considering that I am by and large a rather private person IRL, one would assume they would find little by way of identifiers in what I have said around here.

    Truth is however that should one read a compilation of all my posts and comments since my arrival, I have revealed a great deal of myself.  One would find some general themes running through my commentary along with a fair amount of contradiction and inconsistency.   None of this troubles me overmuch.  The 'who I am' at this moment will certainly differ somewhat from the 'who I am' of even a few moments ago.  To deny this would be to ignore the inevitability of change and growth. 

    By way of elucidation,  One may create a post or make a comment expressing a certain viewpoint and then move on to reading or listening to something on a related vein which causes inner reflection, a re-evaluation.  This in turn results in change, however subtle.  This change may very well be reflected in the next post or comment.

    One the other hand one's experiences may serve to reinforce closely held views. in which case future comments may very well show signs of rigid consistancy.

    I have prattled on at some length and have not actually answered any questions.  That is as it should be.  It requires little courage.

     

    rww

     

  • CreativeWoman said on Aug 15, 2007....
    I am one of the people who lets it all hang out.  I am fully aware that anyone anywhere can read it.  I write from my heart because I need to.  Without the anonymity here, I would keep everything bottled inside.  I've been there and done that.  It doesn't work for me. I need an outlet.

    There have been a few times where I've been stung by the posts and comments of others.  I know I must look very indecisive and fearful at times.  I have been accused of spewing drivel.  In the end, I am just trying to figure my life out. I sometimes recoil in my writing if I have been hurt by another Soul Caster.  I wonder if it is worth doing anymore for a while.  Most of the time, the person will never know they hurt me because I usually won't express it unless it has hit a real nerve with me and I am having trouble shaking it.  Then I might make a post of my own blog talking about how I feel.  I try to keep it on my own doorstep, so to speak.

    Ed, thank you for the kind words about my blog.  You humble me. 

    CW
  • beyondtheveil said on Aug 15, 2007....
    Ed- I have revealed much more about myself, especially in comments, than I really ever expected to. But I also think enough needs to be let known for others to develop a personality profile. Its my feeling that if this isn't done, there is little more than a screen of words to connect with. A community needs to connect.

    As far as it being over the net, I found my blogs on google and that bothered me for a while, but I don't foresee damage from it.

    I don't consider letting things out courageous, but rather stemming from a need that lies within each person. This site turned into far more than I expected. It is enjoyable, and there are a handful or two of people I wouldn't trade for.
  • evil_twin said on Aug 15, 2007....
    I've been absent for a few days, but I did read this today. And instead of answering this question in my head, I'm just going to go ahead and say it. I guess some of us never considered it to be particularly courageous to be honest. It's second nature, rather than an actual choice that was made. And being naive, some of us never worried about who was reading. Mostly because we never had anything to say that would damage us. On the surface, anyway.

    I never posted anything at my blog that I wouldn't share with a friend. I had no deep dark secrets that I revealed and was scared who might see them. I had nothing to hide, therefore, it never dawned on me that anyone would even think to target me. Or use my words against me. I failed to see how it was possible, since I never said anything bad.

    But what I did fail to recognize was that some people can still hurt you, just by their cruelty. I admitted to letting people's opinions of me affect me deeply. And for someone who enjoys hurting people, that made me a sitting target. Maybe other people could see that possibility coming from a mile away, but I didn't. Probably because I tend to think all people are good, until they prove otherwise. Plus, I've been here for several months now and I never personally ran into anyone who wasn't completely awesome.

    Did I know that not everyone here was like that? Sure. I'm not blind. I saw the bad stuff. But it never touched me because I ignored it. And I just kept my attentions focused on the rest of the people who actually were nice and worth my time. I guess I lived in a little plastic bubble here. I just forgot that it was see through and didn't have tinted windows like a limousine!

    I know that now. And the only solution for me was to re-evaluate the decision to post here. I still haven't made up my mind. This place is hard to leave entirely. But I wanted to post on this, because I know my departure might have had something to do with why this question came up in the first place.

    -evil_twin LA
  • quietone said on Aug 15, 2007....

    I think I tend to be more open and honest, up front.  I don't think I have gotten to personal here, as I have not been here long enough to do so.  It takes a lot of trust in yourself to bo very open, even in RL for me.  But, I am getting better about that every day.  I try not to take any thing personal any more.

  • the_infernal_optimist said on Aug 15, 2007....
    While there are a few subjects I choose not to discuss online (we all have them, as per your recent post asking what we refuse to say here), I'm definitely on the open-blogger side of things. It's the way I am IRL, and it ultimately costs me more to wall myself into "Ok, I'll blog only this trivial stuff that nobody can hurt me with" than it does to run the risk of someone hitting me at a weak spot or low point.

    I trust that most people wouldn't do that, and the ones who would try aren't people whose opinions matter to me. Would it sting? Sure, from the surprise (even though I know that not everyone is the good person I wish them to be)...but it wouldn't damage me beyond a surface level. I didn't get to this point in my life without a certain degree of resilience.

    That said, there is one ongoing thing in my life that hasn't really hit my blog except in small asides and tangents, mostly because it's too raw to even hope to say coherently enough that anyone would ever understand. And I did try a bit, a long time back, undercover. That didn't work for me. I don't like hiding. If I want to say it, I'll say it on my main blog and just let the punches come, my arms at my sides. I just don't have words for it yet, and that may never change. If it does, you'll read it.

    I'm an open book, and perhaps it doesn't count as anything like courage because I refuse to let myself get hurt by those who ultimately haven't left footprints in my heart. I'm not invulnerable, and those I care about could definitely leave me bleeding, but I'm willing to take that chance to keep my interactions as honest and forthright as humanly possible.

    ~Infernal
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    nack: wow, it's been a while since i've seen you--good to see you again! i am, as you might guess, in complete agreement with you.

    alyss: i'm with you there.

    rww: you share the person that you are, not your identity, and that all makes sense to me. :>

    CW: your courage never fails to inspire me, and i wanted you to know that. you are a model, CW. :>

    beyond: soulcast has a tendency to do that to all of us, i think. :>

    kyle: i didn't want to address your departure explicitly--i figure that's your business and yours (and nat's) alone. but yes, your departure did figure into it in part. none of this however was intended as a criticism, and if it came off that way, i apologize.

    i've always been worried, given how open and sincere you've always been, and you know, that's always been your strength, dude. b/c if you think differently, you've learned the wrong thing about this place, IMHO.

    quietone: well, i think there are some things one ought to take a bit personally, but perhaps that's just me?

    infernal: stop peeking in my head! :>

    ed
  • evil_twin said on Aug 15, 2007....
    Ed, no, believe me. I didn't take this as a criticism at all. I took as you being upset at what happened. And possibly afraid it would keep happening to other people too. You wanted to know what people expected from this place, and it's a very good question. One that I actually thought about for quite awhile before I finally decided to answer.

    I suppose that the lesson I should have learned was to not let things bother me so much. But that's a hard lesson to force yourself to learn! But until I can learn it, I guess the best thing for me is to be a little quieter. That doesn't mean I regret being honest. I could never regret that. But I also know that you can be sincere and open, without giving it all away. You do it all the time, right? :-)

    -evil_twin LA
  • muckpar said on Aug 15, 2007....
    I say what I believe, I don't know if that is courage, but that is me.Come to think of it that is a form of courage and judging by most of the posts I read there are many courageous people on soulcast.
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    kyle: you understand me well, dude. and yeah, i try, although i think you've been better about it than me. :>

    muckpar: it's easy not to take a stand, sir. and yes, there most certainly are.

    ed
  • rmuxagirl said on Aug 15, 2007....
    you know my friend I just posted something about courage before I read this.

    But I don't really think about what I write about because no one knows who I am.  Even though anyone in the world can read this but no one really knows who is sitting at the keyboard.  SO I could say anything under the sun and in reality no one knows it's me.

    And it's like you said I write for me.  It's easier for me to type out my thoughts and feelings than it is for me to write it.
  • CreativeWoman said on Aug 15, 2007....
    Ed,
    I don't feel courageous when I post.  I often feel at my weakest.  Having said that, my posts are often internal releases of emotion for me.  I feel stronger for having let that event I've written about flow through me and out. Sometimes I'm a little nervous about what kind of reactions a certain post will get, but I do it anyway.  It's for me.  My gift to myself. If I try to detach myself...and I did try...it just doesn't work for me.

    Kyle,
    I hope you'll start posting again.  I don't think you should ever feel bad for being honest.  It's who you are.  Integrity never goes out of style.  :-D

    CW
  • LadyGamer said on Aug 15, 2007....
    I do not consider myself particularly courageous.
    I write about myself and my experiences and my life and I feel more selfish than anything. You hear all these great things about the "blogosphere" making a difference. Not me. I don't talk about world issues or politics are even religion much. I just talk about me.
    That is not very brave. I know all about me. I am the world's best expert on me. No one could possibly correct me on me. I know me.
    I have had a comment or two in the past that were not complimentary but that's okay. Not everyone will like me. As long as my space is respected, they can rail at the SC world at large about how much they hate me... I won't notice. The ones who don't play nice, I don't follow. They cannot touch me.
    It really is so simple and being so simple; Requires no courage whatever.
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    r: ah, i haven't looked at my users yet, will try to address that later. i know you don't feel courageous--it's something you've mentioned before--but i disagree with you about that.

    CW: the exact sentence in that exchange about you was "her vulnerability is her defense". and yeah, i know what you mean. :>

    LG, my dear friend, 2 thoughts: 1) you scared the hell out of me about 20-25 mins ago, and 2) you're one of the most courageous people i know. you take it for granted, i think.

    ed
  • LadyGamer said on Aug 15, 2007....
    I am a HORROR romance writer, sweetie. What good would I be if I didn't think of that stuff?
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    just for you, sweetie...

    [trout-smack!]
  • rightwingwizard said on Aug 15, 2007....
    silver:  Your recent trout-smack of LG warrants the issuance of an official rww noogie!
     
    [noogies silver]
     
    rww
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    [whale-whallops rww]
  • Eilan said on Aug 15, 2007....
    I've blogged about some very personal things, but I haven't really said much about my marriage, although the SC'ers who know me from elsewhere know that I'd consider myself to be happily married.

    I don't consider myself courageous.  I just like to talk about myself.
  • CreativeWoman said on Aug 15, 2007....
    Ed,
    I'm not sure if vulnerability could be considered an asset, but I do have to own it. :-)

    CW
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    eilan: me personally, i rather like it when you do. :>

    CW: in your case, it most definitely is. :>

    ed
  • skald said on Aug 16, 2007....
    ED.  I agree you must always remember that anyone can read what you say on line. Therefore you must be cautious. I am so sorry that CW has been attacked. She is a lovely person and I can't see how any one would want to hurt her.  
  • inspiration2jms said on Aug 16, 2007....
    so how courageous are you about how you blog here? are you tightly-zipped up, never saying anything personal or revealing? or do you let it all hang out? maybe you walk some line in the middle? or haven’t you considered the prospect that what is said on SC can be read by anyone and everyone that has an internet connection? comment and let me know.

    For me it really doesn't matter.  I learned a long time ago that people I know and have known in the past often search for me and my aliases to learn whether or not I am writing about them.  So, yes, I know that anyone can read whatever you submit online and that no matter what you use as an alias or id name, you can be found and it isn't all that difficult.

    One of the reasons that I can be as open as I want to be online is because that is me in person as well.  Also, I have a regular column in a local newspaper called 'Janet's Corner'.  Originally this was to be a political type of article column.  I began getting questions from readers and before you knew it I had a soap box forum.

    For the past 15 months the column has been full of things that bug me or my readers as well as the ridiculous things that I catch myself doing.  For example:  I must have had some form of writer's block once.  The only thing I could think of was some of the stupid stuff I had done in recent times.  So, I wrote about it.  The subtitle to that column was, 'I Amaze Myself, (With My Own Stupidity).

    This is a small community and everyone knows who I am.  I still have friends that are warned, when I am seen with them, not to throw anything out of their cars because I will make them clean at least 100 feet of roadside like I did my hubby and grown children one day.

    This has caused me some difficulty when I was still serving a pulpit.  I was actually asked about it in the middle of a Sunday morning service once.  I responded, "Would you rather have a minister that never made or admitted to mistakes?  Would you trust that that minister could understand your flaws and failings?"  I was never asked again.

    Hehehehe


  • Lysander said on Aug 16, 2007....
    I am very guarded in my online writings, I always have been. I know that people can read what I write, so I rarely show my true thoughts and feelings on things and rarely is what I write personal in nature. I live a guarded life that way, I guess. I am much better in person.
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 17, 2007....
    inspiration: ah, i see you're quite practiced at these things. :> i like the subtitle of that column, and that's really neat about making your family pick up what was thrown from the car. :>

    lys: i always figured it was more your quiet dignity-thing that you do so well. :>

    ed
  • mirrorimage said on Aug 18, 2007....
    I post about a lot of things but I don't go into a lot of detail about any of them. So, whatever is said here is common knowledge where I live. But, I like the idea of being able to post something more personal if I choose to...that is why I changed my name when someone figured out it was me....I didn't want to lose that option.   

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