• jadestar said on Aug 15, 2007....

  oops, I did it again: he = her teacher

• silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....

  there's way too much i don't understand: what exactly is this book, a language textbook, something else? how old is your daughter?
  
  ed

• lyssa said on Aug 15, 2007....

  over here, if you don't do your homework - don't come to school. i got that from my teacher once when i was 14. hehe..
  
  but i think what he did was uncalled for, IMO.. that is so not 'lekker'!
  

• jadestar said on Aug 15, 2007....

  lyssa - thanx for the "lekker" slang :-)
   
  ed - The educ program is ACE (Accellerated Christian Education) - they work in PACE books.....so you do your work within the text book, so to speak. They receive the paces from USA or Canada (I can't remember which) but the Afrikaans pace is locally produced.
  Why Afrikaans is still a compulsory language to learn I do not know. They get one or two simple Zulu lessons as extra but Afrikaans becomes pace work - part of curriculum & part of score work. Anyway, that's a different rant.
  Sooo, she lost (for a while) her Pace book, which is her workbook...but it is kind of a text book too, because the lessons are printed in it.
  Jadine is 11 yrs old.
  so do you think maybe I am wrong?

• silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....

  well, if everything is based on the textbook and your daughter doesn't have it, that's going to make it awfully hard for her to learn anything, don't you think? sure, she could read on with another student, but if it's also a workbook, she can't really do any of the exercises, i would think.
  
  and if it's been a few days, i think the teacher was actually right, to be perfectly honest. did your daughter tell what the teacher wrote in her homework book or did you have to find it for yourself?
  
  ed

• jadestar said on Aug 15, 2007....

  she told me.
  I agree she must be punished: detention, taken off the drama team till the work is caught up or something....
  I just didn't like the 'don't come to school'......what am I supposed to do with her while I'm at work, if that's the case? I dunno - never experienced that before.....
  If he's serious, I think it's irresponsible......
  but maybe it's the norm.........
  but anyway now he & I are at loggerheads.........

• jadestar said on Aug 15, 2007....

  he also added that had it not been found today he would have phoned me to come fetch her....
  it just irritates me....he obviously has no idea what it's like to be a working single mom. He actually said to me that I could have taken her to work with me. He also hasn't met my boss.
  It makes me mad...& I think they're all mad..........

• silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....

  of course he hasn't met your boss--why would he have? does the teacher even know that you're a single mom? and your daughter should arrive at school ready to learn, no?
  
  i don't know, maybe it's just me, but it almost sounds to me like you want the school to be a form of daycare and i don't think that's fair to you, your daughter, or the school.
  
  ed

• jadestar said on Aug 15, 2007....

  Well, I do hand her into their care with the understanding that not only is she there to learn but that they will also to some point take care of her. I think they do hold some responsibility there. I mean they should WANT for her to BE there anyway.

  To me to take her off the drama team or preventing her from doing some of the fun stuff teaches her that there are consequences for her actions (or lack of actions) - and she must foot the bill. But to say don't come in...is like saying I'm finished with you..don't bother me any more. I feel there should be a protocol. If keeping her away is an option discuss it with me first. let me know, what sort of warning did he give her. Did he warn her that a dire consequence would be imminent...first a phone call to me..then a "sorry mom, we tried to get you involved - it's still not working. Please keep her away until said book is found". yes - he did tell her for a few days to find it, but I don't think he followed protocol. And I do think taking a parents circumstances should carry some weight to some extent. Like I say discuss taking her off something etc but if you want to take a drastic measure like keeping her at home, give me fair warning - not lob it on me by surprise.

  And yes he does know I'm a single mom. He also knows about my living circumstance at the moment. because I believe in open communication - so that he is prepared should any of this stuff have a negative effect on her school work or behaivour. I gave him fair warning - shouldn't he offer me the same courtesy?

• jadestar said on Aug 15, 2007....

  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway - I'll consider your points - maybe I do need to review my outlook on this. maybe I am lobbing too much of the responsibility onto them.
  In the 'old' days, pupils got a lashing & parents seemed to have very little to do with schooling. That's definately not a better option. soooo...I'll think about it.
   
  THE GOOD NEWS - he phoned me & apologised for sounding condescending, which was nice & I told him I really appreciate that. At least it will be easier to communicate about things further - as apparently there are other areas where she is falling behind, too
   
  the joys, I tell you, the joys....................

• silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....

  jadestar: you know, i'm not a parent, i don't have a kid in school. maybe i'm completely off my rocker or something. but i'm glad that he called and apologized--that's a really positive note so perhaps future discussions will be productive. :>
  
  ed

• jadestar said on Aug 15, 2007....

  well, thanx for taking time out to discuss this with me. I think that's caring......thenkyew.......

• botoni said on Aug 15, 2007....

  I was just about to make the point that whatever the outcome its pretty important to keep the lines of communication open with the teacher. Great that it is happened that way. I m pretty much behind you with the thought there should be a protocol to follow and that the sudden dumping is inappropriate. Some cautions and warnings are warranted in my opinion.

• wakingharmony said on Aug 15, 2007....

  I am sorta tottally lost lol  where is it you Live? Do you Pay for her school? It is different here a teacher wouldn't dare say dont come to school!! It is the law, the School gets so much money for each child and every day they attend. they only have so many excused abscences acceptable or they are possibly failed even if they are passing classes. I have to say I think its crazy some of these rules...My daughter was in Hospital a lot when younger with asthma.. missed one time 35 days yet she made up all the work in like 3 days back and made all A's . the point there is not that the child didnt learn... the school missed money....The illnesses going around...people sending kids to school sick so the school gets money is bogus...and they can go  home after 11:00 i think cause they will get paid then. I know the schools need money...teachers are underpaid....but the money is spent on who knbows what.. we buy all their supplies Pay school taxes act ok I think Im ranting....Im sorry....................My thought is you don't punnish a child by saying you dont have to come to school........All the kids will be doing it!!

• jadestar said on Aug 16, 2007....

  thanx botoni......(i'm going to refrain from calling you bottie 'cos now it's just too wierd - sorry I'm still getting over my oopsy)
   
  harmony - where are you from? Do you mean that if a child is off for a day, you don't pay for that day?
  Here in south Africa we pay a flat monthly or termly rate regardless of whether the child is absent or not. In fact if the child is off for 3 or 4 weeks, you would still have to pay for that month. So, I admit that is one thing I thought .... that it was a bit of a cheek - since I pay for her to be there.
  But it's all good now. Lines of communication are open & I prefer the teacher discuss things with me first - hopefully that will be....
   
  thanx botoni & harmony for stopping by...

• destinydiva said on Aug 19, 2007....

  i think that is an awful thing to write....  my eldest daughter is so laxy she has forgotton everything the whole way through school...the teachers actually now go straight to her when they find a pair of trainers or school tie in the cloak room cus she is always the one that forgets everything!!!!!  i cant nag her i am just as bad as her!!!  .... i can try and make her more organised and i hope she does become more organised rapidly cus she starts high school in 2 weeks!!!
  anyways .....  my point!!!! lol    none of the teachers have ever said anything so cold and stroppy! i would report that to the headteacher if it was me??
  Destiny xx
  
  ps  (did my bookshelf confession scare you away from me??  we havn't nattered in ages :-) i miss you xx)
  
  
  

• wakingharmony said on Aug 19, 2007....

  Sorry Jade took so long to get back... I live in Texas USA...Our Taxes, Gambling, we have Taxes galore City Tax, State Tax , County Tax, School Tax, you name it  There is a tax...except for food tax....but that has an exception too wont confuse you more....I don't understand it all...we can send to private schools... it is  also against the law to deny a child an education. In Texas your child must be inrolled in a School or Home Schooled Or Parents can end up with a fine or jail time up to age of 18.

• jadestar said on Aug 20, 2007....

  des - thanx for dropping by. You did not scare me off....promise. I'm just even more limited on the internet of late as my boss is breathing down my neck these days...... will catch up as soon as I can.

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