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TX church fails to grasp loving neighbor as self

silverwhisper posted on Aug 14, 2007 | views: 597 | Tags: church, gay, homophobia, christianity, respect, business, what nerve
courtesy of a friend...

short version: a decorated navy veteran’s funeral service at a texas mega-church was canceled by the church at the last minute. he wasn’t a member but his brother was and they offered to host the funeral service. they canceled upon learning that the veteran was—horrors!—gay. long version here.

commentary: not only did they cancel it without warning, they lacked the simple human decency to contact the family and tell them—they found out in the newspaper.

now, just imagine that you’ve just lost a dear friend or family member. funeral arrangements are settled, you’ve told all the appropriate people—and suddenly, you found out through the news that the arrangements, which are set for 2 days from now, are off. and in a non-denominational church—not southern baptist or any other gay-hostile denomination.

great example of loving your neighbor as yourself, high point church of fort worth texas, you bunch of useless jackals. i hope your hate is what keeps you warm at night b/c it sure as hell isn't the love of christ that does.

ed

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  • gingersoul said on Aug 14, 2007....

    That church is not dissimilar by a lot of other mega-churches that are popping here like crazy in the last 5 years.

    The bigger the better. But its all facade. Exterior shameless money showing off.

    Because when you dig inside this is what you find....a can of wiggling worms.

    Oh, Joel Osteen, the brother-in-law of the pastor  who cancelled the funeral, is the new idolized pastor-televangelist  of the moment. A Doctor Phil in religious sembiance. He is also very good looking, young, athletic, with a Barbie wife and  and sparkling kids. He has several books published and he has his own tv.

    I dont see any difference between non-denominational churches and the other ones. They too follow only the Bible. 

  • silverwhisper said on Aug 14, 2007....
    GS: the difference is huge, actually. you might as well ask what's the difference b/n protestants and catholics, if you ask me :>

    ed
  • the_infernal_optimist said on Aug 14, 2007....
    Wtf...*headshake*

    I don't even have anything intelligent to say on that. You summed up my reaction fairly well with your last two sentences.

    ~Infernal
  • moonstone said on Aug 14, 2007....
    This is why I don't like organized religions. They preach about love, but they teach about hate. It's sad. I have had many gay friends in my life and they're the same as all of us. We're all just people. What a sad situation to have read about.
  • botoni said on Aug 14, 2007....
    Oh good grief! Such stupidity sends me in a tail spin. What possible importance is the sexual orientation of the deceased? A funeral is for the survivors, the mourners, the family. They should be denied their grief and their closure because the deceased was gay?
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 14, 2007....
    update.

    my take: someone higher up had a problem and wigged out. and that's both cowardly and unconscionable. my bet is that it was an elder/deacon or someone else who donates heavily to the church. having seen some church politics myself, this wouldn't surprise me in the least.

    infernal: well, you already know how i feel about this.

    moonstone: welcome to my blog and thank you for visiting--i just wish it weren't something so ugly. it's a sad thing, this.

    botoni: as i said above, i find this utterly unconscionable.

    ed
  • Zayda said on Aug 14, 2007....
    grrr...i am beyond flabbergasted at this. and yes, ed, it's totally unconscionable
  • rightwingwizard said on Aug 14, 2007....
    I have been around the block a few times, but it never fails to amaze me when some ignorant ass fails to understand the truth behind his own belief system.  I cannot condemn any one system,  I can however condemn actions taken by those who claim to believe and fail to understand their core beliefs.  I have nothing more to say on the subject!
     
    rww
  • curmudgeon said on Aug 14, 2007....
    Not all Christian denominations would have treated this veteran's family so shabbily.
     
    It's wrong to generalize about all of organized religion on the basis of one church, mall-sized as it may be. Why lump one billion Hindus in with this Texas church?
     
    Rightwing's point about internal politics is spot on. A church is unlike any other organization - it is wholly dependent on the generosity and active involvement of its members.
     
    And quite frankly the church has been subject to internal social politics since it's earliest days: In several Epistles, the writers speak out those early Christians who insist that converts be circumcised in order to join up with them.
     
    Circumcision isn't even an issue today, but back then, because Jesus was a Jew and all of the original Disciples and Apostles were Jews, one can see how requiring circumcision as a condition of membership in this growing offshoot of Judaism would make sense to many people.
     
    I certainly believe that in a generation or so homosexuality will cease to be such a divisive issue. But one can rest assured that people - whether faithful or not - will find something else to fight about.
  • CreativeWoman said on Aug 14, 2007....
    This really saddens me.  I don't know what to say.  I think of this veteran's family and how this must feel.  What a slap in the face to them!  This man served the country that gave them their religious freedom.  His family deserved some respect religious beliefs aside. All churches are not that way.

    CW
  • travelr712 said on Aug 14, 2007....
    silver - having attended over 20 different churches in 10 different states in our country over the years, i can assure you that in practice, the christian church of today is mostly about intrachurch politics and money. this article is a shining example of what the church has become. instead of doing what their own documents and their own role model instructed them fervently to do, they collect millions of dollars every year from their members, and spend it on large, ornate buildings that rival soloman's court. they pray on the young or the desparate, or the emotionally tramatized, promising a 'better life', and delivering bondage to their belief systems, that include shunning of charity and decency as this article shows for fear of offending their more wealthy constituants. it is a sickening display of how the condemnor is itself condemned. can anyone say 'white washed tombs full of dead men's bones'?
  • Mamie said on Aug 14, 2007....
    touche. Your comment is dead on. Ridiculous. Mamie
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    super z: it absolutely is.

    curmudgeon: i agree that not all denominations would behave so. i've known people who are great ambassadors of their faith. i share your hope that in a generation or two that it's no longer this way.

    CW: i know all churches aren't. i hope that most aren't, and yeah, i too am saddened. but more than i'm saddened, i'm offended.

    traveler: o, i don't judge all churches by this one, ridiculous example. i just judge this one.

    mamie: thank you.

    ed
  • husbandhater said on Aug 15, 2007....
    You love they neigbor is a good thought. I don't think he'll be playing in anybody's back door in the casket so why is this an issue to HONOR the dead and a war HERO at that ? Some people have a lot of nerve!
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    and some people are just idiots, HH. :>

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Aug 15, 2007....
    silver - how do you find time to read 627 people?
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    er...627 is the number of people reading me. i only have 590 on my list. but to answer that question: i've been here a long time and a lot of the folks on my list aren't active any longer. :>

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Aug 15, 2007....
    sorry, you're right, i read it wrong. how many do you actually read?
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    everyone on my subscription list. and if it's slow, i'll look at most recent. but b/c i haven't been on as much lately i haven't had much occasion to do that, i'll confess.

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Aug 15, 2007....
    wow, silver, you must read incredibly fast!
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    honestly, i do. :>

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Aug 15, 2007....
    there's 4 of you using the same screen name, right? :-)
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 15, 2007....
    [chortles]
  • queenparanoia said on Aug 16, 2007....
    this is just so sad... =(
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 16, 2007....
    no, it isn't sad, queen: it's goddamned hypocritical bullshit.

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Aug 16, 2007....
    i find it actually s.o.p. for most churches.
  • queenparanoia said on Aug 16, 2007....
    agreed... =)
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 17, 2007....
    traveler: i haven't had enough experience with churches to feel comfortable saying one way or the other.

    queen: :>

    ed

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