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I am going to be honest : I do have a big sexual appetite. I am a very sexual person, and I like everything about sex. I am not ashamed to write about it, or talk about it, simply because I think it is the most natural thing in the world, and there is absolutely no shame about it what so ever.
Ever since I am sexually active I was all up for doing it with my partner. I am open minded and try most things I think isn't too sick, and I think that made me into a good sexual partner. I've never had any complains.
Most of the men I dated had about the same sexual appetite I do. Sex just wasn't a problematic subject in my life. There was never a time when either one of us in a relationship wanted more or less than whatever we've had.
 
Sadly, I also have my dry periods. When I am not dating, I don't go out for casual sex (I did have several one nighters, but those were during my clubbing years). If I am not in a relationship I can basically go without sex for a pretty long time. And when I say without sex, I mean, not counting masturbation.
 
Since I moved to Israel I've had no men in my life, therefore I've had no sex either. It was OK for a while, but the last couple of months I felt I was going mad.
So as some of you might know from other blogs, I've put myself out there, found me a guy, and started dating him.
 
Now I am facing something I've never had to deal with. This cutie pie doesn't seem to have the same sexual appetite I do. I've been seeing him for about 3-4 weeks now, and during this short time I can already come up with several different exuses why we were not haivng sex. They all make sence if you really wanna go into it deeply, but the truth is, that at his age (29) he should be the one trying to seduce me all the time, no matter what. Newernind that he is keeping his distance and we only get to see each other every here and there. But I would seriously think that when we do meet, he'd jump me like a bull. I am a sexy, young woman, I do want to get it on, and being very open about it - so what's the deal?
 
There is alway something - this happened, so it's not moral; that happened so it's just not right.... WHAT?????
 
Last night I invited him to my place, and asked him to stay in. I cooked like a Friday dinner - if you know what I mean - and I even went running before that, so I won't be too "stressed". It was the first time I allowed him to get into my world, my home, my personal privacy. I meant it as a gesture to show him that he could let his guards down too. See, he "can't fall in love". Whatever. I didn't care to show my face without make up - which is a huge step for me since I do believe in immige, and I truely believe that some people just don't have to see up they way we really are while some other people couldn't care less if we walk around  in a simple short and a white t shirt. Our relationship just didn't pass that point yet, where I felt comfortable to show him who I really am. I think  he is just not ready for it yet. However, yesterday was different. I almost didn't care.
 
So there we were, in an empty apartment, after a nice dinner, on a nice bed. I got to tell you, that since my home burned down last January, I didn't have a bed, and that was one of the reasons I never had people over. Just Friday I've got the bed thing sorted out, and I was soooooooo excited to finally selabrate over it. It is very important to me, and if you only care a little bit, you should know that. It should have been the very forst night when we're having crazy sex on my new bed! But the days just went by, and there was no crazy sex what so ever.
I really thought that yesterdayt will be THE night. Well, it wasn't. It turned out to be a lovely evening with a nice dinner, and some bonding thru my special head and face massage I only give to people I feel comfortable with. I do like the guy.
 
This time, the excuse was that I am around the time I have to get - hopefully - my period, and that he does not feel comfortable with blood.
I don't know if I made it clear, but there was, and still is absolutely no blood present yet. But it is time, and what if...
OMG!
I am so disapointed! I do respect him, I would never dishonor his feelings about sex. BUt it starts to make me feel like a crazy nimfo, who is by the way undesired by her partned.
 
Let me put it this way. The guy says he can't develop deep romantic feelings (fallng in love)  AND he doesn't really go crazy about having sex with me either.
 
AM I CRAZY OR THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?????
I got to mention though, that I love every minute I am with him, and when we do have sex, it is actually pretty good.
I simply think that sex is like 80% in a relationship, especially when it comes to my sexual appetite, and if that doesn't work, we do have a serious problem.
 
Now, I am not trying to say I am going to end it right here, right now, cause I've had enough. All I'm saying is that it starts to feel like a marriage after about 7-8 years, when people feel that something is missing, but they are still better off than being alone.
And that is about what I am doing right now. I just go with the flow, at least not sitting at home alone, when we do get to be together, and getting used to him more like a good friend, a family member and less like a hot lover with romantic explosions...
 
Any thoughts?


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  • silverwhisper said on Aug 13, 2007....
    if you get along well, perhaps you should simply ask him? maybe he lacks the confidence, maybe he doesn't want to seem pushy or anything?

    ed
  • slirpuff said on Aug 13, 2007....
    Some guys are shy to say the least or are a little
    insecure and don't want to blow it by moving too fast.
    Maybe it's a religious thing ????
    Or maybe he just has a low sex drive, not
    everyone likes to fuck like minks....
    If it was me, I'd come right out and ask him;
    What do have to lose ?? At least you'd know..
    Steve
  • the_infernal_optimist said on Aug 13, 2007....
    I married a man with a rather low libido - especially compared to mine, since I'm darn near insatiable at times...and it can be frustrating, for sure. I find that the best way to deal with that frustration is to focus on the (in his case, many!) other qualities I enjoy about him. It took me a long time to realize that it really wasn't because he found me unattractive (though we certainly have those moments) - we're just wired differently there. No couple is always in sync on that front, and he and I are just a bit less evenly matched than most other couples I'm aware of there. It still works. :)

    Communication is key. He needs to know where you're standing, and it sounds like you could use some explanation for his seeming lack of interest.

    Pressure is bad, but frustration isn't much better. I hope you get things worked out. :)

    ~Infernal
  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 13, 2007....
    Oh guys, believe me, I did talk abou it. I asked, I tried to seduce him, I whined abou it. He comes up with resanoble exuses why not, and all I can do is to say I do understand them. Yes, they are religious based, but he is not a religious guy as we mean it in a Jewish way.
    First it was a Jewish fast, one no one really keeps unless they are orthodox. Really, most Israelies don't even know when this holiday falls exactly unless they keep up with the Jewish calendar, and even if they do, I've never had anyone telling me he is holding back the sex because of it.
    Than his grandpa' died, and we have this 7 days mourning period when we shell not engage joyfull activities. As much as I know, most people hold don't hold back the sex unless it is a mother or a father who died, or unless they are orthodox. However, they did have a special bond with the grandpa' and I do honor this one full heartedly. Even if it wasn't simply a religious decision, but more of a state of mind, where he just didn't care about sex. Yet, he did tell me he really wants it both during the fast and during the mourning, and that he won't do it anyway. Well, I guess as a Jewish girl, I'd be the devil not to respact that.
    But now he has a totally unacceptable reson. See, about two days ago there wsa something down there that looked like two drops of blood. We've talked about it, and realized that it is about the time I should get my period, but than there was no more blood what so ever. So we are talking about at least a day without any sign of menstruation, and when he was here, again, there was no sign of blood.
    Yet his reason was that it is the time, and what if.....
    Hmmmmm
    I mean, am I dating an orthodox Jew here, or what? I don't think so. I think he is gladly taking any given oppurtinity to say no to sex - by the way, a blow job wasn't against his religious identity at all.
     
    Whatever the reason is, I think he is being dishonest about it, and hides behind these convinient religious excuses.
    i thnk a 29 years old should be horney like a horse, and try to hump me left and right.  I think that it isn't hard for him at all to hold back, even though he says so, and I think he thinks I am a freak with no religious values.
     
    Reality check up to myself: if this is what he think about me, he is probably right. we are morally and sexually wrong for each other. Cause I know, when I am hot, I can't say no, no matter what.
    Did I just solve the mistery of this relationship?
    Well, as I see it, my son will be home soon. I won't have even as little time for him as he is willing to devote for me right now. It's been a nice summer though..... 
  • gingersoul said on Aug 13, 2007....

    Zsu........my ex last boyfriend seems a lot like your guy. I have to be honest. He has been the first man in my life that made ME wait before having sex. The reason was an honorable one: he wanted to get to know me better and build more intimacy between us. So I gladly accepted the motivations. It was a first time for me so i was intrigued,curios.... plus he was darn cute.

    Well, after all it didn't get very much for him to get into my bed...i must have been a hell of a temptation...lol...

    BUT...he also revealed himself to be the first man in my life with the lowest sexual drive ever. For him doing it once a week was more than enough. I wasn't agreeing with him at all.

    Fact is, i was the man and he was clearly the girl in that relationship.

    He was a submissive looking for a dominant. It was ok for me but then i got tired of having to do all the initiation rituals, the work and also the one who was assuring him of his sexual skills....Being in control is something i like but feeling like you have to guess, wait, tiptoe around sex because you dont know how he might take your proposals got annoying and frustarting.

    Frankly, i got tired of this dynamic. So after 6 months i left him. Well, this wasn't the only reason we broke out but a big one, if you ask.

    Maybe he is like my ex guy: passive, needing to be pushed a little, needing to be guided, directed. Maybe you should surprise him with a more aggressive attitude. After all, if you already seem to be in an old married couple  ...i think you should consider keeping him as friend and focus your sexual energy somewhere else. ...:-0

  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 13, 2007....
    Infernal - we were writting at the smae time, so I had to read you after my comment was posted, even though it doesn't seem that way. Wierd, huh?
     
    I know what you mean about communication  - but can you communicate with some one who is hidind behind fake excuses? Or how do you know it is really a case of hiding, or just the fact that we do have different moral and religious values?
     
    Now about concentrating on his other values - yes, you are right, and in his case he really is the perfect guy most girls want to keep. He is just perfect in so many ways. But the sad truth is, that I hardly get to see him, cause he likes to keep his distance. He has this problem with fallng in love, you know. So as much as I'd LOVE to concentrate on those values I love about him, I just don't have the oppurtinity to do so.  I hope I can keep him as one of my best friends, cause I do love him, as far as his personality goes.
     
    I am getting tired of being in a relationship yet being alone most of the time and feeling lonely. This is basically how I've got divorced. Lately I can feel the signs of depression on me with this cuty pie too. I didn't go to work out for a while (cause when I did I didn't enjoy it really and it was more of a hussle than fun), I sit in front of the PC or the TV instead of doing what I need to get done, and I even started comfort eating again. This is not good for me. I need a new romance, or maybe more work or something.
    I just don't have the power to deal with his little soul. I have my own personal rama in my life, like tons of it, and I am responsible for my son as well. I need to feel loved, wanted, adored. I need to feel sexy and powerfull right now.
    But instead I feel like I am stuck in a sour turned marriage, and that we need couple therapy. After only 3-4 weeks I really think it is too obvious to try to explain it......
     
  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 13, 2007....
    Ginger, girlfriend! I knew we understand each other!
    Yes, I agree on the status change I feel I must order into this relationship.
    See, the thing about him is that he does seem to like sex, and he does tell me I am the sexiest girl he knows. He just doesn't love me. Do we need more explanatin that that?!
     
    By the way, after two years of lacking sex in my life I basically raped him on our first date and THAT was the best sex we've ever had. That makes me wonder, maybe I just have to keep raping him? Than again - maybe I wanna be raped some times, you know what I mean ( uhmm, not really, but just go with it)
  • gingersoul said on Aug 13, 2007....

    Zsu...there you have it...keep raping him!...LOL..

    No, seriously...it might be it...each man is different....my guy was into that sub/dom thing so much that as soon as he felt comfortable with me and as soon as he understood i wasn't going to freak out he asked me if i would agree to soffocate him during our love session. He loved it.

    My dear, i think we are in the presence of another submissive. Play along and see what happen...

    Hey, i want an update...lol....

    About wanting to be raped ......i know exactly what you mean.....no need to explain...:-)

  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 13, 2007....
    ginger - again, I knew you and I are getting along =]
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 13, 2007....
    zsuzsio: 2 things, 1) i'm shocked that you're using the word "rape" in this way, and 2) if he's really an orthodox jew, he can't have pre-marital sex. remember the commandments?

    tell him to grow a pair and either say it's forbidden of him or tell him to take a hike.

    ed
  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 13, 2007....
    Lol Aba Silver! You are so right!!!
    I don't think I'll actually make an effort to take my time to talk about it. I kind of know already that talks don't lead too far, unless there is an open ear that listens. If not, I could just as easily talk to the wall - I am already blogging about it, which is much more than so many other people do when they have personal problems.....
    Thanks for being there for me hon'
    Z
  • secretlife said on Aug 13, 2007....
    i think you are absolutely right, and that for whatever reason, he's making excuses.
    at 29, with a woman who obviously wants him, something is wrong and i think the signs are there.
    it's too bad too, because it sounds like you really do like him.
    but i think you already know that you're just too different to have a long-term relationship.
     
     
  • wild-ting said on Aug 14, 2007....
    If you really enjoy him ask him what's going on. Sort it out and hopefully work it out. In the mean time go have some fun, inhibited, lusty sex. And make sure it is safe sex. You shouldn't be denied satisfaction because he is having issues.

    I can totally relate to having a insatiable appetite when it comes to sex. I do, too.

    -wild-ting
  • 00purple666 said on Aug 14, 2007....
    My dear....Talk to him!!! If you don't comunicate how will you ever know what's going on?
     Ever thought of buying a battery operated friend? Not the same I know maybe it jump-start your man into action!! If he keeps disapointing you you've got to ask yourself what do you like? or want more? Him or sex? And maybe it's time to find yourself a man who has got a higher sex drive!
    Hopefully things will sort themselves out! x
  • slirpuff said on Aug 14, 2007....
    Hey Girl
    At 29 you've gone through a lot and I've also been down 
    the lonley path with two little ones to take care of
    so I know where your coming from.
    If communication doesn't work and you find that
    your not on the same levels of needs, stay friends
    if possible but move on.
    There are too many people that settle for something that
    works, for now; but the "now" never ends and it becomes
    too confortable and scarey to change.
    I always say it's my responsibility to make myself happy.
    I do that by surrounding myself with people that make me
     and my family happy.  The only problem is, you can't
    really put it on a time line...because it may not happen
    today or tomorrow; but if your out there it eventually  will.
    In bed I love the feeling of having that special someone so
    close that I can almost climb into them. Their touch, taste and
    smell should make "both" of you not want to stop; ever..
    If both you of you are not on that level, it really doesn't work..
    Just remember, there is a soul mate out there for you, all you
    two have to do is find each other.
    Steve
  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 14, 2007....

    Talk? I am so done with talking. Never used tools or toys. Never needed them. I don't need a man to satisfy me. I can do that much better than any one else. I need a man to touch me, to want me, to just be here and hold me.

    I thnk this one has another gil on the side - or I am the other girl on the side.

    If not, he needs therapy.

    I am not a doctor. I have my own problems to deal with. I gave up on him'

    After the way he makes me feel now, I don't even know if I want him to be my frined. At least not right now. Maybe a month or two later I'll give him a call.

    You know, we are talking about sex, but really, it is so much more than just that. It is about being together, wanting to enjoy each other's company, making each other feel loved. The sex is very important, but it is like caugh to flue. It is the symptome, not the actual virus. The same way we can have a bad caugh, caugh attacks or just a little here and there, we can have lots of sex, regular sex or just here nad there - it all depends on how deep the connection is, or how serious the virus is.

    Only, while we are all glad to have just a little caugh and kill that virus real fast, we all want to be loved and have passionate sex all the time (or fitting our needs, as I've learnt from other posts).

    It is sad to realize that I am not being loved, my sexuality is unwanted, and my being isn't interesting anough.

    I am having some very low, blue days.

    But thanks for commenting

    Love ya all

    Z

  • gingersoul said on Aug 14, 2007....

    Zsu.....that man is having a bad influence on you....i was feeling so down too when i started to realize what a huge nergy sucker my ex boyfriend in reality was  ....i was there asking, self reflecting, soulsearching, being analytical and most of all ready to understand and compromise and he was just the way he was.

    Sometimes people are just what they are.

    No point in breaking your head trying to change their feeling or attitude toward you.

    I am glad you are deciding to step aside...that guy and you evidently don't click, simple like that... And as you said, it's not only the sex.

    Its something more....deeper, intense, un-detected....that's what starts everything..sex is only one of the many expressions  that feeling can use.....

    I suggest to put on a nice dress and go for a walk, have an ice cream, mingle in the crowd....just observe the life going on... he is already history....{hug}

  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 14, 2007....
    Thank you ginger, I really do feel better. It is the hardest now, that I've actually decided, cause now I am not answering the phone - not htat he calls all the time.
    He called twice today and I didn't answer. He usually lets the phone ring untill the aswering machine answeres than calls back again, but today he didn't bother. I think he can tell it is over - maybe he reads my blogs?
    It is hard, but not because I miss him - that is over. It's hard because I am off work, and don't have many friends, so I am bored to death. So when the phone rings my first reaction is to jump right on it so I can talk to some one. But I know, if I do and I tell him I am bored, he'll think I miss HIM.
    I do miss the guy he was when we've first meat.
    I miss the good times, I miss the fun, I miss being active.
    I do not miss the guy he is right now.
    I am just extremely bored.
    Wow, that was even more honest that I would ever want to allow myself to be........
  • GreenTaz said on Aug 15, 2007....
    Smile.

    I tagged this post RELATIONSHIPS and SEXUAL ADVICE.

    Relationships- because you don't need just someone to satisfy you in bed. You need someone to be with before and after bed (or car in front of synagogue--from your other blog entry. *wide grin*)

    Sexual advice- NONE. You know too much to take advices from a virgin like me. :D
  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 15, 2007....
    Ha ha Green taz, You know, a good teacher learns untill the day of his death.....
  • GreenTaz said on Aug 15, 2007....
    Indeed ZsuzsiO. The day you stop learning is the day you start dying.

    And I thought we were talking about sexual appetite? haha...

    BTW, I guess we have something in common. It just came to mind-- I need to be sexually connected to some level with my partner to really like her. What I mean is, she has to turn me on first before anything else works out.

    That makes me think.

    I don't know now if I'm glad my girlfriend is helping me cope with my suppressed passion-- in bed or somewhere conducive to divine intimacy. :D
  • TheKinkyCupcake said on Aug 17, 2007....
    To be honest.... you need to look at you and if you are happy. I am like you. I have a huge libido and I will admit I have dumped 2 guys because of this. The first was a virgin I just didn't have the patience to teach. The other was given every opportunity but never could do it. He was nice but he made me feel like I was an invalid because he just wouldn't try. I know sex isn't everything but if you feel it is a very important aspect then you need someone who can match that. Hope you find the one for you.
  • GreenTaz said on Aug 18, 2007....
    TheKinkyCupcake - I hope you didn't get me wrong. I want sex but not now. Same with my girlfriend. That's why we're helping each other out. Sometimes it doesn't take much to curb the craving for intimacy since we are both virgins but at other times, it takes one of us to walk out of a steamy situation so we wouldn't push through with having sex.

    Honestly, we both don't know until when we can go on like this. The good thing about it is that we stand on the same side. As they say, opposites attract and we're like that. We have very different personalities but when it comes to sex, we agree on one thing--no sex before we decide to get married.

    And YES. WE-- are both happy with that. ;-)

    Thanks for the concern and for sharing your experience.
  • CountRollo said on Aug 18, 2007....
    Zsus. This guy has another girlfriend. All the classic signs are there in your blog. Please dont waste any more time on him or keep him as a friend,- it doesn't work because ladies really prefer monogamy. Many feel unfaithful even looking around until they finally get rid of the infilling makeweight they're presently stuck with. So, drop him and get looking. You know that you're a  highly desirable lady, and  there's a great guy actively looking for YOU right now. Take a peek over the parapet. Good luck. Rollo 
  • ZsuzsiO said on Aug 18, 2007....
    Green Taz - wow, so you both are virgins? Good for you man! I could never do that. What if you get there (marriage) and sex doesn't work out? I mean , how could you know if you'venever done it? I never got the idea of waiting till marriage, but I do respect you for doing so.
     
    TKC - I really do think that sex is a very important part of a relationship. It is a basic physical need that must be satisfied, or people will adventually look for is some where else. Or just be unhappy and get sour about it. The interesting thing is, when you do have grait sex with him, only not as often as you'd wnat to (or the other way around). I know of relationships where sex just doesn't work out for other reasons. They always have a reason why. In my case I  know none of us has a personal problem, he simply doesn't want it as often as i do.
     
    And that brings me to you, Count Rollo - I am starting to believe that you, and other people who say he's got another girl, are right. I tld him that and of course he says it is simply crazy, and that he wishes he'd have that kind of time. But as you've said, all signs are there. I'm no fool.
     
    Thanks again for sharing your thoughts with me, and commenting.
    Z
  • GreenTaz said on Aug 18, 2007....
    I don't really know if this will come out as I want it to turn out but I'll do my best.


    For me, it's like this; me and my girlfriend both know that we can be very passionate lovers in bed. We talk about sex sometimes but we do so in an objective kind of way. I can't elaborate on this but we both have that feeling that if we decide to have sex, we'll get married and not the other way around- we have sex after we get married.

    We are both open minded about having sex even before marriage but we agreed to hold it off for as long as we can. I know some of you would think that sex is a human NEED and that it has to be satiated when the NEED arises. Well, for us, we are happy not having sex. How much more if we do?

    It is the thought that "we can do it but we can still hold on" that makes us one and I can assure all of you ladies and gents that we will have sex (LOTS OF IT!) eventually. But not now. Besides, we know that we turn each other on knowing that we will be "learning" together when we get there as opposed to one giving the other a SEX 101 interactive lecture.

    There. Emphasis on the "WE ARE HAPPY WITHOUT SEX AND WOULD BE HAPPIER IF WE DO!" :D
  • anonymous said on Aug 19, 2007....
    tell 'im u wanna UH! UH! wit 'im or it breakup timee!
  • anonymous said on Aug 19, 2007....

    say  "if i dont start fucking you soon i am GONNA loose my mined, so ....... lets GOO to da bedrooooooom nnnooowww! unless u wanna b SINGLE agenn"

  • anonymous said on Aug 19, 2007....

    with my girlfriend and I, we are happy together no matter what. if we fight, we usually make up the same day. sometimes we don't have sex for a couple months .... then she says she's going crazy, so i fuck her long & hard.....i push my penis in as far as it will go......her groans and screams are verry reelaxing to mmee.. i think im gonna go sya i wanna have sex wit her rite now......after we hhaavvee sseexx wwee uussuuaallllyy hhavvee aa sshhoowweerr ttooggeetthheerr ....... NNNOOOWWW IIIMMM HHHOOORRRNNNYYY

    F**K YOU ALL..........

  • ~mimi-~ said on Aug 19, 2007....

    hmm....

    tough situation ..... i've never had that problem before

    `mimi

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