• anonymous said on Jul 24, 2006....

  Like with all things new and unformiliar, it takes time yet all good things do..Besides if you have done your research you can give her a time frame to work with say that in so many years that if certain things are not accomplished than perhaps another plan action is needed..question is will she stand by her man and give it a chance... And to be fair one thing that I have learned from my experinces in other country's is that some things are the same in other places too!!But if I had to make a choice I would go to the places that I my self enjoyed being in, Germany and Australia

• WorldCitizen said on Jul 24, 2006....

  She already said me that if I decide to go, she's going to follow me, but not because she wants to go, only because I'm going and she will not separate from me just because I'm moving to other country. My problem is that if she follows me only because of that reason, I think that the chances that she's happy are minimal and she will be all the time wanting to come back. This can destroy our marriage...

• anonymous said on Jul 24, 2006....

  sometimes in life we must make hard choices...must learn to focus on the positive...if the love is strong the marriage will not be destroyed..it will be tested..and if you keep in contact with the family on a regular basis it will help.communication is the key to solving all problems...never let her feel alone..make friends to help to adjust to the changes...maybe both find work?? Or atleast have something that will help with the daily grind of life...

• theorista said on Jul 24, 2006....

  My relatives live in New Zealand and Australia and are very happy there. Of course it is very difficult for people to uproot and move to a different place. Maybe you guys can take a short vacation there and see how she feels about it?

• ALIENated said on Jul 24, 2006....

  Which country are you in now, if you care to say? I am in the good ole USA, but I get the feeling you are not. I would love to live in Australia. My buddy went there while we were in Vietnam. He loved it. I cannot imagine just pulling up my roots and moving to another country. Good luck.

• silverwhisper said on Jul 25, 2006....

  worldcitizen: i assume you've given the matter some thought. things you should probably consider just to be safe: 1. you presumably have a job now. find out how to handle your tax situation and banking needs before moving. 2. do you have any friends/family/associates already there? a support network, i would think, would be really helpful if you're moving to a whole new country, esp if there's going to be a language barrier. how well do you and the mrs speak english? ed

• WorldCitizen said on Jul 25, 2006....

  ALIENated: Ok, ok, I think I don't need to be [b]so[/b] ||{1}||: I'm in Brazil now. Pulling up my roots is not difficult for me; I'm already more than 3000km away from my parents, brother and sister, as I'm living now in my wife's state. theorista: About the vacation, we are thinking about it, but to go there is too expensive! I don't know if we can afford to go there. I'm thinking in traveling for some place nearer (and cheaper) just to show to my wife how big can be the differences between countries (she have never traveled to outside Brazil). Silver: Yes, I have a job now, and I think it will not be difficult to handle my tax and banking situation, I have some persons here that I can trust to take care of this for me. I have one friend living in Australia, and I think I can find other Brazilians there, they have some "associations" there that can be helpful to start a network. About my English, you can evaluate from my posts here (with little help of the ||{1}||, ||{1}|| and the orthography corrector of MS Word). I think I can speak and understand most of what people say. I was in a two week workshop at USA last year and I had no big problems. Moreover, I already worked during 2 years in a project with all documents and meetings in English. My wife's English is a little more than the very basic, and this is one thing that worries her a lot.

• silverwhisper said on Jul 25, 2006....

  world citizen: in that case, that's great to hear. you seem to have an excellent grasp of written english (congratulations, btw!), but as many can attest, the spoken version of a language is often quite different from its written form, and in that respect, english is no different. please note particularly that australian english is quite different in sound from american english. even native english-speaking americans are easily confused by australian english. there is also a different in vernacular. if you can rent movies where the actors are in australia, that might actually be a helpful tool for you and your wife. ed

• WorldCitizen said on Jul 25, 2006....

  Yes, I'm in fact looking for Australian movies, but it's difficult to find them in the movie rental stores, except maybe "Crocodile Dundee" and I saw ||{1}|| recently. Not a very good movie, but good enough to listen some Australian English. I know I need to improve my English, even to have a good score at ||{1}||, mandatory to obtain the visa for me (because English isn't my native language). I need at least 6 in a scale from 1 to 9. That's one of my reasons to start blogging in English also. ;)

• silverwhisper said on Jul 25, 2006....

  sounds to me like you have this well thought out. i wish you good fortune. :> ed

• ecofriendly said on Aug 05, 2006....

  World Citizen... It's unfortunate that the only film that seems to hang around forever in America is 'Crocodile Dundee'. I visited the U.S for three months last year and that's all I was reminded about, a film that was made many years ago now and is so out of date. It is a minor work whereas there are several recent Australian movie releases that are far superior. Have you seen the movie 'Babe'? It won an academy award and is a fun family movie. We have some serious movies that are quite good such as 'Lantana', with Anthony La Paglia in it. We have just made a movie called 'Jindabyne' with Laura Linney and Gabriel Byrne in it. I love Laura Linney in movies but the reviews aren't so crash hot. It does show off our beautiful high country mountain scenery though. You could do a whole lot worse than to migrate to our country. We are a friendly, down to earth culture although our government isn't as great as you would think. We are following whatever America does these days. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. Sydney is a little more hectic and busy than Melbourne. I live in Melbourne...it's the place to be. Beautiful and cultured! We just hosted the Commonwealth Games and it showed off Melbourne to the world. Good luck with your emigration. I'd go for Melbourne!!!!

• LivingInNZ said on Aug 09, 2006....

  Hi there World Citizen, I haven't been on line for a couple of weeks and didn't realise I have some readers, probably all subscribing to me because I should be talking about NZ instead in raving on about everything else thats happening in my life. Well thats what blogs are for. Sometimes you can say alot more to strangers on the net than you can to those closer to you. I always see Brazil on TV and it looks like such a passionate, romantic and lively place to be. So it just goes to show, everyone would rather be somewhere else. Maybe it's just women who don't really like to leave their families. Years ago when my children were very young my husband was offered a job in Australia. He didn't even tell me until about 5 years later, because he felt sure I wouldn't move. And I don't think I would have. When I look back I wish he had at least discussed this with me like you are doing with your wife, because I felt real bad as he always wanted to travel and I have always been a home girl. Now of course I won't migrate because both my parents are in their eighties. My son has lived in Brisbane for the last 6 years and has no intention of returning here to live. My daughter will be moving to Melbourne in October. My son went to Brisbane because when he moved there it was difficult to get work here in New Zealand. He has no qualifications you see. So for people like him Australia did work out for him. Unfortunately he can only obtain casual positions, nevertheless he is doing well, and he loves it there. Brisbane is a lovely place, always quite hot and the people are very laid back and relaxed there. According to Ecofriendly they are like that in Melbourne also. I hope so because my daughter is going there. Brisbane reminds me a lot of Wellington where I live at the moment. You move as fast or slow as you like and the people are very friendly here, but it does get really windy and this winter has been extremely cold. Wellington is quite a compact city and easy to get around. Sydney according to a lot of people is very much like Auckland. Very fast spread out and the one time I went up there I was glad to get back to Wellington. It takes a lot of courage to step out of your comfort zone, but at the end of the day you need to think about your family in the long term. You can always return back to your homeland if you wish when you are ready to retire. It will be something to look forward too. I wish you and your family well and reassure your wife that language is not that much of a barrier. While New Zealanders and Australians are very competitive in the sports arena and everywhere else you can think of, let me assure you I love the Australians, they are very down to earth and friendly people and they're also the best rugby league players in the world. Take care

• WorldCitizen said on Aug 10, 2006....

  Sorry to be away for some time, but my Internet at home stopped working for a while... [b]TNTbefree[/b]: I understand your point, and that's why I'm trying to convince her that it's a good idea. She already said that if I say "I'm going to Australia", she will go also, because she will not separate from me only because I'm moving to another country. But if she goes only because I want, she will not be happy and our children won't be happy also. [b]ecofriendly[/b]: Yes, I saw 'Babe', but I was talking about films where you can learn about the Australian culture, and see some Australian cities and scenery in general. I think 'Babe' is too "comic". About the other two films, according to IMDB both ||{1}|| and ||{1}|| were never released in Brazil. But thanks for the recommendations, I will keep looking for those films. About your government, you should know the public services here at Brazil: we have one of the greater tax rates in the world, and I need to: pay for a private health care, because the public hospitals are terrible; pay for a private school for my daughter, because the public education is a chaos; pay for a private retirement plan, because the public one is broken; pay for private security for my house, with electrical fence, sensors in the gates and remote monitoring, because the public security simply don't work: we don't know if we fear more the bad guys or the policemen. About moving to Melbourne, I have 2 little problems: I think Melbourne is colder than Sydney; and I think it's easier to find good IT jobs at Sydney. I've actually read a story of a Brazilian that emigrated to Melbourne and had to to change for Sydney where he have found an IT job. [b]LivingInNZ[/b]: You're right: it's not easy to step out of my comfort zone, but I think I can have a better life in other place, and specially I can give a better life to my family in the long term. About the language I have registered all three of us in English classes: me, my wife and my 7 years daughter (my wife in "book 1" and myself at "book 6" level, while my daughter is in a kid's class). I saw that NZ is looking for skilled people also, but by the location, I think it should be too much cold for my wife to be happy... ;) Thanks for all your comments, I appreciate it very much!

• ecofriendly said on Aug 11, 2006....

  LivingInNZ No you Kiwis are the best rugby league players in the world! ;) Remember that it is cooler here in Melbourne than in Brisbane, but all in all, we are a down to earth mob.

• ecofriendly said on Aug 11, 2006....

  World Citizen, Melbourne has around 3 million people. I'm not sure about the IT job scenario although my friend works in IT here in Melbourne. It is not cooler than Sydney as it is not that much further south, however it is certainly cooler than Brisbane. Up there they are subject to a more tropical climate. Tasmania is cooler than Melbourne, very beautiful but probably few IT prospects. Nice place for a holiday if you don't like the cool weather.

• LivingInNZ said on Aug 11, 2006....

  Hi world citizen, You are so right NZ is a tad bit cold. I tell you what, my son has been in Australia now for 6 years. While there are heaps of NZers living in Brisbane the majority of my sons friends are Australian. That may seem a strange comment but we are Maori, and renown for sticking with our own community I suppose as most people do. I told my son as a little boy that he is my every breath, and still is. He didn't understand this description until I explained it to him. Needless to say he was somewhat spoilt. But he is settled, he has matured real fast, and he is happy (I'm still waiting for him to get a girlfriend or wife so I can have grandchildren. Selfish a!!) I am grateful that Australia has given him a solid background and forward looking attitude to life. Had he stayed here he would be insular like I am, in my own little world, so much to do so little time. As he is so fond of telling me "Mum you Maori women got too many issues". You will love Australia I am sure, but like everyone else is saying, no matter where you live the details of living can get you down. Ultimately, how you live and where has nothing to do with anything, it's what you make of it. Always look on the bright side. By the sounds of things, enrolling in english classes and all you've already made a decision. Where in Australia you decide to settle let the Australian commentators of this blog help with that decision. Thank you Australia for helping grow my little boy into a lovely man.

• otnatty said on Sep 25, 2007....

  I am a NZ gal and always have been... although as I am getting older I have noticed that everyday things are too expensive, if you own a home and can pay power and phone and food and water charges if you have enough money left on an average wage you are doing swimmingly well. I just think that NZ is a very expensive place to live. I have been a struggling single mother for the past three years until I met the man of my dreams, and I moved from Invercargill to Dunedin, he has been great and so supportive, but I have only been living her for five months and he is wanting to move to Melbourne as he can make double the amount of earnings !!! I KNOW ! I guess I am weighing up my options, the taxes are rising, the dollar is far too low, and the power and water are going up, and food is sky rocket high ! but it is home and I have not ever travelled overseas.. WE dont know anyone over there, but thats okay becuase I have always been on my own anyway. Support will come to us I think if we are surrounded by the right people... youd think that im mad for sitting on the fence but I dont know, I just think I need more experience, and I have my son to think of too... so what do you guys think ?? OH and RENT is so DAMN Cheap !! WE could do so well, and its not that much hotter.. Lol we are fond of the cold weather hehe

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