• silverwhisper said on Jul 12, 2007....

  are you freaking kidding me? this is ridiculous!
  
  ed

• mirrorimage said on Jul 12, 2007....

  apparently she was annoyed by the child.... can't wait until she has 12 of her own that ask 'why' 50 million times a day!!

• silverwhisper said on Jul 12, 2007....

  i was gonna say, obviously a woman w/out kids of her own!
  
  ed

• mirrorimage said on Jul 12, 2007....

  lol..... karma will take care of that lady...:)

• Zayda said on Jul 12, 2007....

  Here's the link to an MSNBC article about the whole thing.

• mirrorimage said on Jul 12, 2007....

  thank you zayda

• Suddenrain said on Jul 13, 2007....

  Glad you posted the link. Had to go and see what idiotic airline this was. I'm going to keep my eyes open. I'm curious what, if anything, will be done about this loon they have, with no patience. The poor mother.

• the_infernal_optimist said on Jul 13, 2007....

  I blogged (rather angrily) about this for the mommy board I frequent, and am not surprised to see it here as well. Butt-frickin' insane, and I hope their little "investigation" results in the censure/firing of that flight attendant. Maybe that's harsh, but the thought of her suggesting that a young child should be drugged for her (or anyone else's) convenience pmtfo.
  
  ~Infernal
  

• Suddenrain said on Jul 13, 2007....

  And not only that Infernal, she stopped the flight and held up other peoples lives as well.

• GrapeKoolaid said on Jul 13, 2007....

  I hip-checked a six year old running around in a restaurant when I was about 20.  I was working there, and was just coming out of the kitchen with a tray full of food when I saw this little kid coming running around the corner.  I didn't think twice and I gave him a nice little hip check.  He crashed into a barstool and was crying.  I pretended like I was sorry, but I wasn't.  That little kid had been running around the restaurant for the whole hour he was there.  Until he got knocked into the chair, that is.  After that, he sat in his seat, behaved and finished his veggies.  I do believe that he even got some dessert.  

• Suddenrain said on Jul 13, 2007....

  Grape! I'm shocked! Really?? What if he had gotten injured or really hurt?  I do agree that parents need to control their children for the sake of everyone in a public place so that we can all enjoy our meal though. There was a woman arrested in Ohio for letting her children run noisily through the restaurant disturbing all the patrons. Another patron near them started making a fuss at the mother to control her children and and a brawl broke out and the mother and father of the children were arrested for creating a riot or something like that.

  Above about the plane ride, couldnt be helped. It was a baby, and at least the mother tried all she could to control the child. I don't believe it warranted her being kicked off the plane though. Babies are...well...babies. That's what they do best.

  Children are a reflection of their parents skills in teaching and parenting. You should've hipchecked his mother as you walked by.( imho)  :-)

• mommyof2 said on Jul 13, 2007....

  She wanted her to drug her baby??!! I would have

  bitch slapped the frickin cunt!!!

• boyzmom said on Jul 13, 2007....

  I would think after the excitement of the airport, the child would have fallen asleep once the plane took off. If that employee was inexperienced she might not have realized that people are inconvenienced on flights all the time and are probably understanding of it most of the time. I wonder if someone did say something that she took too seriously, people who don't know any better often times suggest medicating a child for their convenience or complain about a child that makes noise. I bet that mother even had books for the child to look at once they took off but didn't want to get them out before they took off, that's what I would do with my kids.

  I don't know any toddler that wouldn't have been wound up after being dragged through a busy airport, and through security and probably waiting before boarding the plane, it's all such an ordeal for the kids that I would think a flight attendant would realize that it takes time for the kid to be able to relax and sit quietly.

• silverwhisper said on Jul 13, 2007....

  i wager that the flight attendant is likely in the process of updating her resume right now.
  
  grape: honestly, you probably did that kid a favor.
  
  ed

• mirrorimage said on Jul 13, 2007....

  suddenrain: she should think about a career change, she obviously has no business being around children.
   
  infernal: I hope they make a public statement about what their investigation uncovers and what actions they are taking. I can not believe someone would do this and leave a mother and her child stranded in a strange city without her belongings.... if that would have happened to me, someone from that airline would have been driving me to my destination.
   
  grape: in that situation, the child's parents should have gotten him under control... that is a discipline issue. My sister is a manager of a restaurant and my boys get a little carried away every now and then while we are there. But, it lasts about 30 seconds from the time it starts until the time they are carried back to the table, spoken to and they don't get up again. No one goes out to eat to watch my kids run around and people are trying to work... the parents should have taken care of it so you didn't have to!
   
  mommyof 2: I am just shocked that it was taken this far because a 1 1/2 year old was repeating 'bye, bye plane'.  If I was a passenger on that plane, I probably would have gotten off along with the mother and child. I would not be in the air with someone that lost her composure over something so trivial.
   
   

• mirrorimage said on Jul 13, 2007....

  why do my comments keep getting cut off??? ughh...
   
  boyzmom: i am surprised the other flight attendants didn't take her aside and calm her down. it sounds like she was irritated by the child and having the other passengers on board side with the mother pissed her off enough to kick them off. So there was plenty of time there for another flight attendant to step in and pull her aside....if they knew what was going on anyway.
   
  ed: i think you are probably right :)

• SeanRenaud said on Jul 13, 2007....

  Honestly I'm not sure what to think.  On the surface this sounds rediculous, but anybody chanting anything for a prolonged period of time is "seriously starting to damage my calm".
   
  So many people were offended and outraged that when we pulled over a bunch of Middle Eastern men chanting and just acting tres bizzare that we were racist.  Something happens to a white women and her child and suddenly we're all offended again?  Seriously people pick a side, do we treat all suspicious and unusual persons the same or don't we?
   
  That said crying is a natural part of being a child.  While nobody would outwardly complain (and if the stories are true it's likely that the other passengers actually stood up for this mother and her child) but chanting, so no normal.  One is annoying, one is creepy.
   
  I'd like to know how long this woman was an attendant, I'd like to know how long this was going on.  According to the article the pilot was already taxying.  Maybe they have more power than I think, but if I were the pilot and she didn't have a damn good reason why I should return rather than fly, I'd tell her to shut the fuck up and do her job.  So what is the x-factor here?
   
  Honestly I don't see wht's so bad about drugging the baby, I'm starting to think that all children should be drugged by law or else you should be made to drive wherever your going. 
   
  @mirror:  Good point, nobody pulled her aside and calmed her down.  The pilot took her word that something was wrong too?

• mirrorimage said on Jul 13, 2007....

  Sean, They didn't have anything from the airline or the flight attendant involved... maybe the pilot booted them all off.... who knows. But, if the child was bothering other passengers, why didn't she just politely tell the mother to quiet him down or ask him to stop repeating it...maybe she tried that...who knows... but based on the information available.... she shouldn't have a job. If she can't tolerate a 19 month old child, what would she do with an adult being more difficult? Or if she had to calm the passengers during turbulance or something like that? I would expect the employees to set an example and calm the passengers instead of making the problem worse.
   
  You are right you can't be on both sides but it was a baby? I just don't understand what the issue was with what this child was saying or doing....
   
  No need to drug children Sean. I think that is a very bad idea..... for the most part it's perfectly safe. But it only takes one child to have a reaction from it after take off and not be able to get the necessary treatment. I think that would start a whole other set of problems.

• hotaka said on Jul 13, 2007....

  I had to sit next to a screaming kid on a flight once. It wasn't pleasant but what can you do, eh?
  
  I thought this was going to be about a kid who said "Bye, bye, plane," and was suspected of terrorism.
  

• Suddenrain said on Jul 13, 2007....

  Lolol Hotaka!  I don't believe in drugging a baby, unless doctor recommended and even then I question. During illness if needed, it's ok. But not because he babbled to much.

• hotaka said on Jul 14, 2007....

  I never babbled too much when I was a kid because I was always given too many drugs.
  
  Ha, ha. Ahh, just kidding.
  

• mirrorimage said on Jul 14, 2007....

  hotaka...it started off about the bye bye plane boy.... i was talking about my son screaming because everyone was so understanding about it and this poor little kid said bye bye plane a few too many times and got booted off.... if that's what really happened of course...
   
   

• one_wired_kitty said on Jul 17, 2007....

  I don't have kids of my own but I understand it's not a pleasant experience for the child. It's hard on the parents as well. I'm sure any normal parent is probably a bit embarrased because they're child is crying the entire flight. Last time I flew .... I was sitting behind an obviously frazzled mother who's child was crying because of the pressure (I assume) ... so me and a few other passengers nearby tried to comfort the child so the mother could rest.

  It's just dang wrong to kick that baby and his mother off the plane when there was no valid reason to.

  What goes around comes around. I'm sure this will come around and bite her in the butt.

• mirrorimage said on Jul 17, 2007....

  one wired kitty, first of all...I like your name. lol...    I would have understood if they would have asked me not to continue through to our destination! I didn't even want to be on the same flight as him! But for saying bye bye plane? Give me a break...
   As for the mother sitting ahead of you, I'm sure she was incredibly relieved. Just knowing the passengers around me were not ready to jump out of the plane over it helped me keep it together...I'm sure she felt the same way!

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