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Hello and welcome. I say this to myself and others, as I am new to this blogging world. I thought I'd give it a try so I can vent out some of my thoughts and save my family and friends the pain of listening to me and my problems.

I am in serious debt. Okay, now that that is out in the open, I will share with you my saga of getting out of this extraordinary debt. I am not talking about $20K in credit cards or any silly trifles like that; I am talking about close to $200K in debt from taxes, student loans, credit cards, and other bills.

How did I get here? This is a fair question. I made the decision (I am still in the process of deciding if it was a good or bad one) to go to law school following my graduation from Tulane (pre-Katrina, when NOLA was a beautiful place). I wanted, at that time, to join the CIA (don't worry, I came to my senses), so I selected law school in Washington, DC. Not only are there great law schools in DC, but there are also the most expensive law schools in DC. I wasn't worried at the time because I was going to join the CIA (the "Agency"), and they would help me pay back my student loans (both federal and private, all for the maximum amounts possible; how could I work while I go through law school? I needed those loans). Oh well, so much for my foresight.

Once I started law school, I actually read the Constitution. I think that course of action was a good start to my legal career. Knowing the basis of the laws of this country really helps one to be passionate about defending such laws and people's rights. Unfortunately, when I read the Constitution, I began to appreciate the incredible freedoms that we have, and didn't really want to sign those rights away by joining the Agency.

I am not a quitter, so even though I changed career plans, I wanted to stay in law school and become a lawyer. My new passion became environmental law, which is what I practice now. During law school, because I wasn't working, my student loans were not enough, so I began selling off my stock inheritance to support myself. My girlfriend came to live with me and also began selling her 401K earnings (she could not find work in DC). This all leads to our tax issues because when you sell stock, it is taxable income. My girlfriend's 401K money is taxable at a rate of 10%, plus, she is in the highest income bracket. It's all a real bitch, you know.

Another unfortunate turn of events was that when I graduated from law school, the market was terrible for new attorneys. Simply put, there were not enough jobs to employ all of the lawyers who graduated with me. I am sure you are thinking to yourself, 'but you have a law degree, you can get any job.' This is not true; I applied for every job posted on line, in papers, that I could think of in my head... all to no avail. No one would hire me because I was either over or under qualified. I ended up being unemployed for a year and a half, living off of the remainder of my stock inheritance.

This is where it gets really interesting. Being unemployed following law school meant that I needed to defer payment of my loans. The interest, however, did not go away, and it continued to acrue. When I commenced payment (once I finally got a job), the interest was added to my principal balance. Those loan companies are really clever; you think, 'wow, I have some payment relief!' In reality, you are just going to pay back a higher principal, with interest. It sucks. This job I got after a year and a half of beating myself up and feeling oh-so-depressed was not legal in nature. I ended up working for an environmental/engineering consulting firm doing technical writing and editing. It was great experience, but, it was lousy pay.

After a year and a half under-employed, I finally got a job as a "real lawyer," practicing environmental law. This is where I am now, and I am still not making enough money to survive; I already mentioned the state of the market for attorneys.

It is amazing to me that I survived without disaster as long as I did; however, all good things must come to an end. Approximately two months ago, my world came crasing down around me. I received a notice in the mail that my monthly loan payments were due. Not a new notice, I receive one every month. This month was different, however, because the bill was for $98K! I thought it was a mistake, so I called the collection agency handling my account (it is hard to pay bills with no money, hence collections). The statement was not a joke, in fact, it was quite serious. My student loan had defaulted because of insufficient payment. I had been diligently making payments, but they were not enough. My account had fallen to 120 days past due and that was all she wrote. I was given a week to raise $98K or the collection agency was going to garnish my wages, further ruin my credit (in the course of a day I went from a credit score of 712 to 566 when my loan was defaulted), and take away my license to practice law. Why they would take away my license that allows me to earn income is beyond me, but I don't think collection agencies are meant to be understood.

I tried to reason with them. "If you garnish my wages, you will get less than half of what I am willing to pay," I pleaded. It all fell on deaf ears. One stroke of luck was that I have a relative who came to my rescue, negotiated a settlement (with zero interest!), and set me back on my feet to rebuild my credit. That is where I am now. I created a budget and have started making my diligent monthly payments.


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  • ALIENated said on Jul 22, 2006....
    I feel your pain. A while back I had to deal with my dad's estate. As you know, any poor smuck has an estate. It does not mean they have a mansion or anything. He left a lot of medical bills (emergency room visits mostly) that the VA was actually responsible for even if they did not agree. I just kept sending the bills to the VA until the collection agencies got tired of wasting their time or maybe the VA paid. My case was a little more nebulous than yours. The things they are doing to you are pretty stupid. Good luck on all this. Money problems are the pits. Write on.
  • hotaka said on Jul 22, 2006....
    That they would take away your license is just crazy. What kind of a stupid idea is that? And is that threat going to make you suddenly say, "Oh, okay - I will pay the 98K back," as if you were just holding out all along?
  • madstorm said on Jul 22, 2006....
    Debt is shit. Creditors will not listen to reason. It is TOTAL unfairness. So what's the answer? don't work your butt of fto pay what they want... ride the storm... stand up for your principles. It ain't worth it. I owe €75,000... it doesn't matter how or even if it's my fault. As soon as I defaulted they screwed me with increased interest rates and penalty payments. After a year I left the country. My conscience is clear. I WANTED and INTENDED to pay it.
  • InterplanetJanet said on Jul 24, 2006....
    Exactly hotaka... My license to practice is my source of income; to take that away would leave me penniless and with no solution to get out of the debt. I was really lucky in this situation because I have a great support system with my relatives. My great uncle fronted some money, and negotiated payments with zero interest for the life of the loan. Now it is up to me to make those monthly payments. I am not foreseeing a problem until my federal loan is out of forbearance (next year) and I need to double my payments. Additionally, my uncle made sure that the entire payment that I make each month goes toward payment of the loan. Often times, collection agencies keep a percentage of your payment (sometimes as much as 10%) to pay their administrative fees. So you get stuck in a situation where you are trying to pay down your principal balance but every payment gets sliced up to pay the collection agency, making it even harder to zero balance your debt. They have planned all of this very carefully to really screw people in debt. I doubt anyone wakes up in the morning and proclaims, "I am going to spend irresponsibly today and get myself into huge debt." Debt happens, and the fact that the people with whom you must deal when you are already in a terrible place (i.e., collections people) treat you like garbage is horrible. I read a blog of former and current collections employees, and a large number of them feel holier-than-thou and really enjoy what they do. They refer to people whose bills are in collections as scum, and they assume that everyone in collections is purposefully not paying back their debts... ostensibly to take weekend vacations to Fiji. What idiots they are! My uncle said he can get the collection agency to submit a "delete card" and clean up my credit report. Did I mention that this uncle is former CIA; it is really amazing what he can "negotiate." I think the scum-sucking debt collectors get their karma by being required to deal with him. I mean, of course their scare tactics work on me... I am relatively new to the "real life" scene. Spending ones life in college and post-grad is great, but when you get out into the real world, it is a shell-shock. But my uncle, on the other hand, has been around the proverbial block, and takes no shit from anyone. Within minutes he was speaking to the director of operations of the entire company and working out terms favorable to me. Experience in this world is worth so much; I guess I can spin some positive from this experience in that now I will not be so easily threatened by bill collectors. I can't believe I actually spent a weekend trying to figure out how to raise $98K! If I knew how to do that, I wouldn't have defaulted the loan in the first place...
  • hotaka said on Jul 28, 2006....
    I had a student who was with a collections agency, I think with the tax department. At the age of 42 he had so many things wrong with him - stress, anxiety, etc - that he gave up his job. He told me how they would come to a person's door and announce their arrival. If the door wasn't opened they would break it open and sometimes haul the occupant out screaming while they repossessed his belongings. At least, that's what I understood. My student was learning English so he may not have expressed everything perfectly clearly. But he did say it was an extremely stressful job. Now he is a self-employed accountant and marathon runner. Anyway, I am hoping you can come out of this one a winner. If you do you can say screw you to them all.

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