• mirrorimage said on Jun 20, 2007....

  I had both of my boys circumcised before we left the hospital. I was nervous about it the first time around... but it was done right in the nursery with pain medicine and both of my children stopped crying before they even opened the nursery door to wheel them out. It was a very short cry, i believe more from being held down, and they don't seem to even be tender afterward. I always goobed an excessive amount of a&d on just to make sure it didnt stick to the diaper...but neither one seemed to even notice it. I am all for it because I have known too many teenage boys that had it done do to infections and it is much worse to have that done later on, in my opinion.

• lilyoh said on Jun 20, 2007....

  Well from the standpoint of what's best for your child...you've done your research and know what is comfortable for your family. When I have a child, it's a decision that I'll probably leave up to my husband.
  
  From a personal standpoint and one you probably don't want to think about at this time.....my best lovers have been uncut. They were always superior, lasted longer and didn't make me sore giving me much more pleasure...nature knows what she's doing :)
  
  
  

• Eilan said on Jun 20, 2007....

  I think that the decision to circumcise an infant should be between the parents and the pediatrician.  As long as you've done your homework and are making an informed decision (either way), what you choose to do isn't anyone else's business.
  
  I'm not going to share my opinion here, but I will say that my husband (and my ex) and I were in agreement on what we'd do if we had a son.  I'm actually pretty glad we had all girls and didn't have to make the decision.
  
  And, yes, the discussion can get heated, can't it?  And not just on pregnancy boards.  BTW, if you're interested, Google "foreskin restoration" sometime.
  

• mirrorimage said on Jun 20, 2007....

  Eilan: Lots of things seem to get heated on the pregnancy boards don't they?  :)  

• MoonMommy said on Jun 20, 2007....

  "BTW, if you're interested, Google "foreskin restoration" sometime."
  Yes I have :-) I have also looked at botched circumcisions, and read story's by men who swear they remember the pain of it. I have looked deep into both sides and weighed the risks. I have all kinds of respect for those who choose not to, I just wish more of them would have more respect for those who chose to do the cut.

• secretlife said on Jun 20, 2007....

  i had my son circumcised the day before we left the hospital.

  i actually thought about it long and hard beforehand. 

  my father was circumcized when he was 12 yrs old....you don't want to circumcise a 12 yr old.

  my husband is circumcised..

  i pretty much decided for the same reasons you've listed.  and although i have friends who have decided not to circumcise, i'm happy with my decision.

  it's like most things with kids -- you do your homework, understand the issue, and then make the best decision for you.  there will be plenty of things you won't agree with others on in the parenting role.  don't worry, you'll get used to it!

• Eilan said on Jun 20, 2007....

  mirrorimage: I avoided pregnancy/parenting boards after a point because the other women made me feel like the world's worst mother.  And I was only a lurker!
  
  It seems that circumcision, breastfeeding, vaccinations, and spanking are the heated issues on parenting boards.
  
  MoonMommy: I hope I didn't offend you by mentioning foreskin restoration--I'm not taking sides on this issue.  Nor am I judging you for deciding to circumcise your son--it sounds like you've been doing your homework. 
  
  I just heard of restoration about a year or so ago and thought it was, um, interesting, for lack of a more polite word.

• MoonMommy said on Jun 20, 2007....

  "MoonMommy: I hope I didn't offend you by mentioning foreskin restoration--I'm not taking sides on this issue. Nor am I judging you for deciding to circumcise your son--it sounds like you've been doing your homework."
  Oh no you didn't at all - and it is quite interesting that there is such a thing out there - that's for sure!!

• Eilan said on Jun 20, 2007....

  Whew!  Just wanted to make sure. :)

• silverwhisper said on Jun 21, 2007....

  as an uncircumcised man, it really isn't all that much work, unless you consider shampooing your hair work, too. :>
  
  ed

• uniquely-ironic said on Jun 21, 2007....

  I had my son circumcised.  It was as much for hygiene reasons as religious beliefs.  If I had not, and he had attended the parochial school that he did, it would have made him an odity.

• GrapeKoolaid said on Jun 21, 2007....

  I was "cut" when I was in 6th grade, I think?  A very traumatic event in my early development.  I remember having my wee man in bandages and shedding tears of pain and satisfaction going number one.  Thanks for bringing that up. 
  

• mirrorimage said on Jun 21, 2007....

  Eilan: Out of my group of friends the one mother that is the most outspoken about her beliefs and parenting strategies has the worst kids! Makes me laugh....
   
  Ed: shampooing hair is work! :D
   

• missb said on Jun 21, 2007....

  MoonMommy,
  
  I think most Indonesians have it circumcised, Christians or Muslims. Perhaps it's some kind of asian belief to have it that way for hygiene reason.
  
  If i were you, i'd circumcise. For no other reason than what i stated. :)
  
  Cheers!
  B
  

• MoonMommy said on Jun 21, 2007....

  "as an uncircumcised man, it really isn't all that much work, unless you consider shampooing your hair work, too. :>"
  Yes, I have heard. Really for an adult man there isn't a problem, it's the little ones ya gotta watch out for..hee hee

• MoonMommy said on Jun 21, 2007....

  "missb": I have heard most if not all Filipinos do it. My husband is one half Pinoy. It is a cultural thing. It's really all about where you live, even in the US statistics are different depending on where you live in the US

• destinydiva said on Jun 21, 2007....

  my totally honest opinion.......I think it is cruel....and completely unessersary to mess with a boys manhood..
  i didn't quite get your reasons for doing it??  I can kinda understand how jews may do it cus they are following the laws of their religion.... tho still totally dis agree...
  anyways each to their own I guess......
  my ex hubby had the chop....  but it was advised because he had had some very bad infections when he was a baby....  he hated the fact he was 'done'  maybe thats why he has such an inferior complex??  oh and when it comes to sex....well.....my first sexual encounter after my husband....I do remember thinking a few times....oh a real willy :-)   thats prob bad isnt it......? maybe the last bits just cus I hate my ex??? 
  my son is two and the thought never even crossed my mind.... but I know I would sooner teach him how to clean himself properly than put him through so much pain....  (I watched a documentry awhile ago and it does look painful during and for awhile after)
  
  anywayz.....its your child...your decision.....Im just being honest with my opinion :-) 
  no hard feelings I hope ?
  
  Destiny x
  

• MoonMommy said on Jun 21, 2007....

  Destiny, of course there are no hard feelings. What I am trying to say here is that I just wish people would accept others decisions, again it is a cultural thing as well. I don't like the fact that some countries like eating dogs and cats, but I accept it.
  I have seen painful looking ones, and I have seen ones that went so smoothly the baby didn't even let out a whimper. It really depends on the surgeon and the meds used. That is why I am having a urologist do it with lidocane and sugar pacifiers, to minimize the pain. And even back in the day when they didn't use meds (like when my hubby had it done as a baby) you have to remember - they don't remember a thing!

• louthomas said on Jun 21, 2007....

  I turn 69 this year.  I've been circumsized since I was about 2 days old.
  
  Every boy should do it, Jewish or not (I'm not).
  
  It makes it easier to keep clean and fresh, it's much more sensitive, it's less prone to infection (including AIDS) .. why not do it?  Don't be like the poor schlunk I was in an Army hospital with ... 23 years old, and had to be circumsized.
  
  Not a fun experience.  A baby, on the other hand, will never, ever remember.
  
  CIRCUMSIZE THE KID -- he'll love you for it.
  
  -lt
  

• ohtidak said on Jun 21, 2007....

  i had mine cut when i was 12, or perhaps 11.. i barely remember the age :P
  
  anyway that age for our culture in Malaysia is a normal event especially to Malay people.. only few of us had it cut in a baby time.. it's fun though, even you can see some of our best tv commercials here actually had it on air to show how fun and memorable that event was, but of course, scary for those who gonna have their's cut at the time.. still, after the event they felt like an "adult" already though they are just 11 or 12 years of age..
  
  our culture always tell to our young people that they are still a kid if they have not  Circumcised.. this actually just a "trick" so that they will agree to do it..
  
  oh we do scare them as well, but yeah, just to add fun to the event, memorable, remember?
  
  oh my comment does not touch on the reason why we do it.. cause someone already posted it earlier :)
  

• destinydiva said on Jun 21, 2007....

  ps......  my ex is the only man/boy /baby I have come across in all my family/sexual encounters/friends/life!!!!!!  that 1...had infection issues  and 2....is circumsised
  
  pps .....my nanna always said....(about ear peircing) if you were meant to have holes in your ears... they'd be there already!!  I think the same applies to this.....mother nature knows ......)
  
  ppps...by saying its better done as a baby than a teenager.....is it a regular thing in America for teenagers to get infections??  do kids not have a school nurse 'talk' about taking care of themselves in that area?  also babies feel the pain just as much...only difference I think s a 6 or 7 yr old or teenager can tell you how painful it is...a baby can't...  they dont remember the pain....but they still feel it.
  
  
  anyways...I'm just being honest bout my feelings towards it... :-)
  
  I'm thinking maybe I should have stayed quiet on this one.....
  
  
  
  

• MoonMommy said on Jun 21, 2007....

  Louthomas - Although I am getting my son circumcised, I do have to bring one thing up that you are wrong on for sure - it is NOT more sensitive - it is actually less sensitive when circumcised. They cut some nerve ending and - how would you know ? - you never had an uncut one. Men who did have an uncut one, and got the surgery are the ones who know and they say overwhelmingly that is in fact less sensitive.
  But I am still getting my son circ'ed. Again he will never know the difference, and he won't remember any pain.

• MoonMommy said on Jun 21, 2007....

  Oh destiny, no need to stay quite, I understand people have opposing views and welcome them. on this - "also babies feel the pain just as much...only difference I think s a 6 or 7 yr old or teenager can tell you how painful it is...a baby can't... they dont remember the pain....but they still feel it" It can be painful if done the wrong way - or without meds - but I have seen them done with no pain in fact the baby never whimpered at all. And the fact they don't remember when they get it done as a baby is important!
  Also - If you have it done as an adult you can't have an erection for like a month afterwards - I guess they are really painful and can even tear the cut - ever heard of morning wood? I am sure that is a big and very painful problem for men who have it done.

• silverwhisper said on Jun 21, 2007....

  lou, moonmommy is correct re: sensitivity. the whole reason it became the vogue in the US was due to the misguided and stupid efforts of kellogg.
  
  ed

• boyzmom said on Jun 21, 2007....

  My boys are circumsized, my nephew was not and my sister got differing information about whether or not or when to clean under the foreskin. That would be the problem with teaching a young child to clean there when you don't even know how to or at what age it is okay to pull the foreskin back. I know with adults they can but apparently with an infant you can't???

• destinydiva said on Jun 21, 2007....

  is it the 'done thing' in usa then?  see over here...(england) it is strictly a medical or religous procedure only....  its not even mentioned in ante natal literature or check ups....
  being 'done' is the minority...and its not something even considered generally.
  
  anywayz...glad there no hard feelings :-)  its only my views and thoughts and as i put in the comment...each to their own...I do accept  that we are all entitled to our own views....  I accept that you think that way....im just putting my views on it across ..and you accept i have my views.....I accept you have yours...  Im not on a convert you mission honestly......just voicing my opinion :-) 
  hugs to ya
  destiny x
  
  

• silverwhisper said on Jun 21, 2007....

  destiny: yep, it's more or less the norm here--the vast majority of american men are circumcised.
  
  ed

• mothernurture said on Dec 18, 2007....

  Good info...
  
  
  http://intactivist.wordpress.com/
  
  
  Jen

• Wish_Upon_A_Star said on Dec 22, 2007....

  I've only come across two men that were not circumcised my second lover and my current boyfriend. Cosmetically it takes some getting used to the look of it when it is soft but an uncircumcised penis looks the same as a cut one when erect...
  My boyfriend says he's way more sensitive but wishes that he had had it done as a child because as some others said it is the norm in the us and he was made fun of (and still is sometimes...) and says that he will have his sons circumcised...
  (and on a side note i totally agree with what Lilyoh said)
  
  
  

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