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This is Sunday night here and we got an email from a friend with pictures of flooding in Jerusalem, some showing cars submerged on the roadways.

 

Now if 40 years ago, or thirty years ago, or even 20 years ago I would have said that someday it would rain in May in Israel, most people would have laughed at me. If I had said, not only would it rain in the north, but it would rain in Jerusalem in May, they would have asked me if I had been working in the fields without a hat or had smoked something illegal. If I would have said that there would be so much rain in Jerusalem that the streets would flood, they would have looked at me strangely and called the nurse. If I had said, not only would it flood, cars would be swept away and people would be stranded on the roofs of their cars waiting to be rescued, they would have called the local mental hospital to hurry up and take me away.

 

The weather here used to be so predictable. The weather, for the most part was local. The north had much more rain than the south, the coastal plain and the interior section had more than the eastern part of Israel. The weather was so predictable at one kibbutz that had been our home for a few years that those of us working outside would take bets to the minute—about when it would start raining. In short, there were stable very local weather patterns.

 

Now we can look at a satellite picture and see the whole Middle East covered by one huge cloud. And it's not only the Middle East, but weather satellites show huge systems that cover half of Asia or half the US. And I don’t believe that everything can be explained by ‘global warming’.

 

Last week there was an article on the net that told of research that claimed that the North Eastern part of the US would become hotter and wetter. The article also mentioned dissenting opinions by other scientists, as is par for the course.

 

But it reminded me of a book we had read thirty years ago, (lost the bibliography card long ago) that was written by a scientist who had studied the tree rings both on recently cut down and on fossil trees. He came to the conclusion that there were cyclic weather patterns, and that the North Eastern US was due for a hot and wet weather pattern. He explained these patterns by saying that he believed that the Gulf Stream of hot water/hot weather, periodically changed course.

 

Throughout modern history the Gulf Stream has gone up the eastern coast of the US and then, around Nova Scotia, it goes across the Atlantic to warm up Europe. However, between the coast and the Gulf Stream there is an area of colder water, called the "cold wall" that keeps the eastern coast cooler.

 

Now if we take a look at the globe, we see something—and the first time I did this it blew my mind. Although I had supposedly learned geography, also on a college level, somehow I had never simply looked at a globe in the way a child would look, with curiosity.

 

Take the famous city of Rome for instance. Would it be north or South of New York city? Take some time to guess…..

 

I always thought it was somewhere in the south of Europe so it had to be south of New York. The weather in Rome is much like the weather in the South Eastern parts of the US, so it’s got to be south of New York City right? Wrong.

 

On my not too accurate globe, Rome and New York are on pretty much the same latitude. This was a revelation to me, at least. How about London, is it north or south of Canada?  Take your time…

 

Well London is about on the same Latitude as Calgary in Canada, and London is a lot warmer than Calgary.

 

Oslo looks to me to be on line with Nome Alaska.

 

So what keeps Europe out of the snow and ice? The Gulf Stream. I’ve seen copies of ancient maps that show parts of Europe under ice that haven’t been covered by glaciers in modern times, and I don’t think that they were from all that far back in time, such as an ice age all around the globe (but I may be wrong). They most probably were from a time when the Gulf Stream deserted Europe and warmed up what would be New York and Boston. (See Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings, by Charles H. Hapgood, Evidence of Advanced Civilization in the Ice Age, A Dutton Paperback, NY 1966, 1979).

 

‘Years ago’ as my grandmother used to say, there was not a cloud in the sky over Israel after seven or eight in the morning, from May to September. Any clouds that came in from the sea overnight would go back out early in the morning. Now we have cloudy and overcast days right in the middle of the summer.

 

(Not that I got to see sky all that much last summer—because of the rocket shelling. We kept all the blinds down for fear of broken glass, the most likely thing to happen statistically. We didn’t go down to the shelters, but stayed in the most inner room. My father (combat sergeant WWII) used to say, “if the bullet doesn’t have your name on it there is nothing to fear, and if it does have your name on it there is no where to run”. Ditto for missiles and shells. Not that we should go strolling out in the street when the siren goes off.)

 

Anyway, has anyone noticed some changes in the weather patterns of their locality over the last ten, twenty or more years? Have the trees bloomed twice in a season, or even three times? Has it rained more or less? Are the old timers convinced that something is wrong? Is there more or less water, especially in lakes and wells?

 

I really think that there is something changing, but I don’t buy the Global warming spin, where I am living it is getting cooler by the year.



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  • skald said on May 22, 2007....
    I live in Iceland and many people blame all on global warming here but the truth is that weather in Iceland has always been unpredectable. there have been warm periods in February and it is cold now in May. I read a dairy that said the flowres were starting to bloom in February. This was in 1948 Soon after that the famous volcano Hekla had an outburst. There had not been irruptions in Hekla  for a long time. I t became cold in March. I have also experienced such things. We have had sping in March, February or it has been cold in June. What I mean to say by this is I tink it is not all global warming that is cousing the strange weather. And as you said the Golfstream has a big importance to Europe and of course us. Iceland is  much warmer than you would think and that is because of the golf stream. Thank you for this interesting post. 
  • Trinov said on May 23, 2007....

    Dear Skald,

     

    Thank you for your input. From what you wrote I get the impression that what is happening may be world wide. All those weird ups and downs are not part of what we have expected all our lives.

     

    I had a couple of very interesting experiences when I visited Iceland. This was back in the 1960’s. I flew Icelandic Airlines (I forget the exact name.) We flew on a propeller plane that went up and down all the time, and they handed out cocktails for free to keep us high in the sky.

     

    I was with a good friend of mine; she was going to tour Europe and I was on my way back to Isreal after as much touring as my little money would allow me.

     

    We took a standard tour and we went to the museum in Reykjavik and on the wall was a needlecraft picture. I stood there staring at it because it was the Hebrew word “Yachad”, which means “together”. As I was standing there a guy came up and stood with me, and then said in Hebrew “What is this doing here?” There was no explanation. (Half a year later this guy turned out to be a friend of my brother’s, and I learned only then that he was a member of Israeli internal security—he just told me he was a traveling student).

     

    That was the first incident—a Hebrew word on the wall from who knows when.

     

    Some of us got together the next day, including the Isreali guy, and decided to rent a car and go to see that big waterfalls in the north of your country. We wanted to save the money on a tour guide. On the way we picked up this American who had just come back from the Peace Corps. He had rented a car and it had overturned in a ditch, so he joined us.

     

    Since we were a group of two guys and three girls, the Isreali macho man decided that the other male should hold the map. This way we got totally lost; it was getting dark and cold, there was nobody else on that road, it was in the middle of October, all the tourist tours had stopped and we were short on gas. So I grabbed the map away and stared at it, and found where we were and argued with the Israeli for ten minutes until he condescended to admit I was right; we found the waterfall and the direct highway, and got back alive.

     

    Besides the magnificent waterfall, what impressed me was the clearness of the air, it seemed that you could see forever, and the moonlike surface of the volcanic areas. Iceland has its own unique beauty that I will always remember.

  • skald said on May 23, 2007....
    Dear Trinov. Thank you for your long answer. I did enjoy what you told me about your trip in Iceland. I did not suspect that you had ever been here. I worked in the National Museum for a few years. I thought that I would be there until I became 70, I still have many years left until that but  it was closed and it has been reconstructed. I sopped working then. I did have a good time working there and many strange and interesting things happened and now you have added somthing to my knowledge of the museum. Thank you 
  • skald said on May 24, 2007....
    I just thought that I say that the roads here have changed a lot since in the 60's. we have good roads now. I remember the bumpy roads back then.
  • Trinov said on May 24, 2007....
    Dear Skald,
     
    The roads were fine, but there were no roadsigns or if so none in
    English. Also we were a bunch of idiots trying to save money on a guide
    and not knowing exactly where we were going. The guy who was
    supposed to read the map could not read a menu. I would have liked
    to stay a few days more but we all decided to tour Europe together and
    that turned out a disaster also, including one young man from Iceland,
    all of us were young and stupid.
     
    I tried to write something on your fairy posting, but it evaporated. I'm not
    that good at computers. You said something of having an Irish strain.
    Were the Irish monks in Iceland? That would account for the Hebrew, for
    the Celtic monks knew Hebrew. There is a whole history there.
     
    Also what I wanted to write on your fairy blog was that by doing some
    research on another topic, I found that customs relating to fairies or
    elves, called Shedim in Hebrew and Sheed in Gaelic,  are almost
    identical all over the world. In our tradition we consider them very real
    and potentially dangerous, although sometimes helpful. I personally
    believe that they exist.
  • skald said on May 24, 2007....

    Dear Trinov.
    Thank you for subscribing to me. Although I am not at all that interresting.
    Yes there were Irish monks in Iceland before the country was settled. They seem to have dissapeared when the so called heathens came here, the Norse. We took slaves from Ireland and they soon mixed with us. Therefore we have this wee drop of Irish and even Scottish blood. Our blood type is different from the blood type in the other Scandinavian countries and more like the blood types in the Brittish Isles. It may have to do with that we are a island nation I have heard or micture with the Celts.
    There have also been theories, mind you just theaories that there were Irish settlements here, that the Nordic wirters kept quiet over. Places that are not mentioned in ourt settlement saga. Well I don't know about this but I find it fashinating.
  • skald said on May 24, 2007....
     I always forget half of what I mean to say. I wanted to say that it is very interesting that there are such similarities between the Shemdim and Sheed. The names are similar too. These similarities all over the world they are very strange and interesting. Thank you for telling me of Shemdim and sheed.
  • Trinov said on May 24, 2007....
    Dear Skald,
    It is too late for me to be up or even breathing, but I also didn't write things clearly before. Also you do sound interesting.
     
    In Hebrew the word for fairy or demon is now Shed,  but it used to be pronounced Sheed (and still is in the European pronounciation) and the plural is Sheedim. In Gaelic, both the singular and plural were Sheed. So it is the same word. The English-Irish word Banshee is really Bansheed in Gaelic. Ban is the Hebrew/ Arabic root for daughter or girl. The Hebrew  for girl is now Bat, the Arabic is Bint, the plural is Banot. So BanSheed is the same as Banot Sheedim--the daughters of the geniis/demons/ fairies/ elves. So nobody can tell me that there is no connection.
     
    All stories about these entities said that they had a different time flow--people taken by them would show up decades later, not a day older. The two types of protection were iron objects and vulgarity. Vulgar gestures would infuriate the fairies and they would leave you alone, but they might beat the hell out of you first. They would reward midwives who helped them deliver. They would take young people as their 'lovers' for as long as they wished. They were never portrayed as cute little things with wings, but as human size.
     
    Our tradition has that they had some peculiar bodily part. The Shed who, according to legend, threw out King Solomon and took over his herem until the King made it back and banished him, had hoofs instead of feet.  In our tradition they are particularly powerful on Friday nights and in deserted places.
     
    In Ireland and the Highlands of Scotland they had a variety of other really frightening other worldly creatures. Is this true in Iceland also?
     
    I have to admit that I am fascinated by this type of thing, except in the dark. I wasn't doing research on this topic so I have only mental notes for the most part. There was some really wierd creature in Norwegian folklore also, but I forget what it was and what it did.
     
    Good night.
     
     
    Were the Irish monks wiped out by the invading Norsemen or by the later Roman Catholic missionaries? I have two books, one sent by a fellow researcher from Ireland, about the Celtic Church. In Ireland, whoever were the original missionaries set up their churches and monestaries on rivers that had access to  the ocean. I would be interested if that was true in Iceland also.
  • skald said on May 25, 2007....
    Der Trinov. Thank you for this interesting answer. I am going to read it again and try to answer. But I can answer now that the monks went away or so it is said.  I think I already said that, sorry they did not want to be with the heathens. The stories you tell are like stories we have.
    I want to send you a  link something I came acoss on my blog. I did not read it but I have read theories like that. Maybe it is just a wish that some people have that they are the lost tribe of Benjamin.
  • skald said on May 25, 2007....
    Sorry Trinov. i thought it would be about Icelnaders being the lost tribe of Benajmin. Because I have heard that theory. It seems that this is altogether an other thing. I am so sorry. This is just an advertisment about a book. 
  • skald said on May 25, 2007....
    Trinov. our elfs and fairlies were also in human siza and all you say applies to them.
    Firghing creatures are the giants or trolls as we call them. Not like the Norweigan trolls, no giants and they were not good. Sometimes they were stupid too.

    I have never heard of  churches being set up by rivers or the ocean. I'v heard that the doors must face a certain direction. I cnan't remember which. And I´ve heard of fairy chuches that face or mirror them. If I find something of use I will let you know.
  • philipharris said on May 26, 2007....
    Yes, it is all screwed up!!!
  • Trinov said on May 26, 2007....
    Dear Skald
     
    I would be so very very grateful about the 'legend' that the Icelanders are from the Lost Tribe of Benyamin!!!!!!!!
     
    I guess I wasn't going to say this before, but my research is all about finding the so called Lost Tribes.
     
     I call them the Exiles of Shomron. G-d doesn't loose anybody, he just hides them away until the days come when they can be safely 'found'.
     
    You see I come from the Tribe of Shimon. This is a given that I have known since I was a very small child. My father's family comes from the mountains of the Caucases-between the Black and the Caspian Seas. They are exiles of the First Temple period, and so had some different customs than many of the European Jews that they met when they left the mountains. ("We should have never come down from the mountains" said my Uncle)
     
    The Mountain Jews are not that numerous, and we can be recognised. People recognised my father when he came to live in BeerSheva, and gave him the tradional special yogurt (which he burnt unfortunately). Some teengager came up to me two years ago and asked if we were Kavkazi (the Russian name for the area or the indiginous name) and I asked why. He said I looked exactly like his friend's mother who is Kavkasi--so I said yes, my family comes from there and we must be inbred so much that there are not that many faces.
     
    People think that such and such a tribe is to be found only in one place. This is not true, the tribes split up and the search is all over the world. There was a prophecy that the first tribe to be found as a tribe and to return would be the tribe of Menashe. This is already happening, the first of them are coming home.
     
    Many 'legends' turn out to be true. For example, most people, 50 or 60 years ago thought that the Ethiopian Jews were a legend. I've taught some of their (very beautiful sweet intelligent) girls and they are my neighbors, just Israelis now.  People from the island of Jerba, were to the European Jews just a legend. Most of them now live in Tzfat and I met a beautiful girl from that ethnic group. (We lived there for a few years but it is not my cup of tea.)
     
    I spent three years full time researching this, and then had to stop because of my failing eyesight, which has settled down. I had all sorts of plans of learning all sorts of languages to help, but my mind is not capable of more than Hebrew and English, and I can't put together a whole sentence in French or Spanish anymore and I once more or less spoke those languages.
     
    So I do the best that I can. Much of what I look for has to do with clothing, habits, superstitions, women's practices, customs that are preserved that originated from not well known Jewish law  etc. as well as Hebrew words.
     
    The first thing that I would say about the tribe of Benyamin is that the men are very handsome. Maybe sometimes too handsome. The ruling class in Afganistan are from the Tribe of Benyamin, there is no doubt about this for anyone doing their homework on the subject. The Tribe of Benyamin left the main body of Jews several times in history. One split was before the Jews entered Israel, another time was when there was a war against them because of pagan practices. Then they were exiled when the First Temple was destroyed, and some went to Babylon and the east and some went to what is now Spain. So there are lots of ways that they could have gone into Iceland.
     
    Why do the Celtic monks interest me? They may have been converted by the early Christians --pre Pauline eastern Christians called Syriac or Nestorian Christians. Most of them were from the seafaring Tribe of Zevulon.  (They are still in the area where intact communites of Jews reside who have the tradition that they were from the Tribe of Zevulon.)They were sailors and knew  possibly where to look for other Jews to convert them to their belief. They had a certain type of cross which the Celtic Church also had. etc.
     
    Do you know of any communities where women traditionally wore a hooded cape? There is a very exact hooded cape that was worn in the First Temple period, and was still worn by women in certain communities until 50 or 60 years ago at least.  Are there any superstitions about returning home prematurely from a journey? These are two questions among those that I have found give very telling answers.
     
    Anything that you know about this tradition will certainly interest me!
     
    Thank you so much for telling me and I will be happy to hear anything, even if it seems unimportant, for so many times it is the small things that make the biggest clues.
     
  • skald said on May 26, 2007....
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    Dear Trinov. I had something in mind women wearing hooded capes in the 1600's I am sure I have seen paintings of it in the National Museum but I can not find a picture of it. I am sending you some pictures of costums but they are not what I had in mind. I can´t remember any superstitions about coming home prematuerly but surely we have many
    superstitions.
  • skald said on May 26, 2007....
    Dear Trinov. I  also wanted to thank you for all this imformation you gave me. It I run across anyghing I will have you in mind. 
  • Trinov said on May 26, 2007....
    Dear Skald
     
    Thank you so much,
     
    I want to compare the embroidery and the ornaments with what  I have.  Hopefully I will have some time this week, and can give you feedback.
     
    The hooded cape that I am looking for was striped. I have pictures of Jewish women in Jerba and Kurdistan with this same cape, and also pictures of women  in the Highlands of Scotland, with the same exact cape.
     
    (I saw your lovely sweater, I bought one like that on my trip to Iceland and had it for twenty years until I got too fat. It never wore out. It was black and white angora. I once tried knitting in the round but it would not work, so I am back to crochet with one needle )
  • skald said on May 26, 2007....
    Dear Trinov. I wish I could crochet. I am a shamed to say I can't. If you get a pattern and a receipt do you think you could not knit an Icelandic sweater ?

    No the hooded capes that I was thinking of were black. But if you can post a picture of what you mean, I could tell you weather we have something like it.
  • Trinov said on May 27, 2007....
    Dear Skald
     
    No, I can't ever follow a pattern! I do what I can do by sight which is why I do mostly hats and bags! Anything I knit for my husband comes out five sizes too big.
     
    But thank you for thinking of me.
     
    We are having trouble finding a way of putting pictures on the blog. My husband does not want them on somebody's data base. Once he can find a way of posting pictures in a way that he is happy with, we will try.
     
    It is amazing to see the match of these capes--but I believe that women's traditional styles were simply passed on from mother to daughter forever.
     
    I don't know when fashion came in or started. I have a book of mostly central European costumes over the centuries, with some traditional costumes from around the world, all from about two hundred years ago.
     
    Possibly fashion is an urban thing, and in the countryside people kept their own clothing, as they kept their foods and their tools and their speech patterns. That is just my guess. What do you think?
  • skald said on May 27, 2007....
    Dear Trinov. I know that fashion came in here. In the end of the 19th century a painter named sigurður Guðmundsson. He recreated the Icelandic costume from the old ones. Women here wore national costumes much longer than men. They followed the fashion and the men's custumes dissapeared. There have been some tries to recreate it and men are wearing it on festive occasions but the question is, is it really a national costum. Sigurður the painter was the first educated painter here and he grounded the national museum.

    I understand about posting pictures. I have the same problem. I have an Icelandic blog and I know that a lot of pictures from my albums have been stolen.
  • Trinov said on May 27, 2007....

    To Skald, hello again,

    Here are the pictures that I mentioned.  Of course some people might say "coincidence", but I have lots of other evidence to go with these pictures of the connections between the Pictish people and the First Temple Jews or the Lost Tribes, including customs and Hebrew words, etc.

    This is a picture of a woman from Kurdistan, wearing the traditional cape worn by Jewish women there. This picture was in an exibition, in the Jewish Museum in Jerusalem. I think that the picture was taken in the 1950's or 1960's.

     

    This is a picture of a woman in the Highlands of Scotland in the 1800's. She is wearing the traditional women's cape. This is the same cape as worn by Jewish women in the Island of Jerba, and in Kurdistan.

  • skald said on May 28, 2007....
    Dear Trinov.  Only the pictue of the Scottish woman is something like I meant and then the women here were in complete black. Thank so so much for posting the pictures. 
  • Trinov said on May 28, 2007....

    Dear Skald,
     
    In Ireland they also had a hooded black cape, my correspondent in Ireland was looking for a striped one, but she only found the black cape, and we both moved too many times after that and lost track of each other. 
     
     
  • skald said on May 28, 2007....
    DearTrinov. It is interresting that they have the black hooded capes in Ireland just as here. Sorry you lost track of your Irish correspondent. 
  • truthsayer said on May 28, 2007....

    Dear Trinov:

    As I was reading this post, I heard an answer to prayer on the tv.  I have been looking for a compendium of the miracles G-d performed in 1948 (and before) and 1967, which lead to Israel and Jerusalem being reclaimed for the Lord.  I wrote down the name of the man, Bill McKay, that has collected the stories and written them down. 

    I mention this because this happens everytime I am reading your posts.  What a wonderful conversation you and Skald have been having.  I have always wanted to see Iceland, and we have often desired to LIVE in Israel, G-d willing.

    As I read your conversation, I must tell you that this is what the Lord has revealed to us as well.  He has dispersed the tribes all over the nations, as he has said he would do.  We know that we each have Hebrew blood in our veins; although we do not know which tribes.  My spouse's grandmother's family came from Latvia.  My family background is not as apparent.  More like something they hid, back in the day, to survive. 

    Do you ever use the Bible Codes, or Bible Decoder?  My fathers family name is all over the Pentatuch/Tanahk.  Over 138 times in one matrix.  This has always amazed me, the Perfection, you know? 

    We dream of coming to Israel for the first time, this year.  We have three children at home, and we have asked G-d to allow us to see Israel for the first time, in this physical plane, this year...as a family.  We have another daughter that G-d willing, will be back with us too, by then.

    Anyway, I wanted you to know that my spirit and soul stirs at your posts, as if one day, I too will see Tiberias, the Sea of Galilee, the Kinneset.  I desire to see En Gedi as well.  I am in a hurry, hope I don't have too many typos.  Thank you for the pictures, I will be checking them out next.  We know of a spa on the Dead Sea too, and have a friend whose sister owns and runs the spa.  There is so much we want to see and do there.

    What do you believe will happen to the tribe of Dan, since they never really took possession of their land?

    Shalom friend, 

    truthsayer

  • Trinov said on May 28, 2007....
    Dear Truthsayer.
     
    We are in the midst of a translation, so this is quick.
     
    The last question first. In Ezekiel all the portions of the Tribes are laid out. They are strips of land going east west.
     
    We use the codes, which are far more complex than is generally known
     
     
  • truthsayer said on May 28, 2007....
    The Creator , the Author of the Bible predicted these weather changes.  We should not be surprised, should we?
     
    We just have a simple program (the codes)...probably out dated...but we suspect that they are multi-dimensional, or quantum codes that have not been identified yet.  Like DNA, they will never come to the end of the complexity...just keep discovering more and more and more. 
     
    I know the tribes are laid out in Ezekiel.  I am a Christian as you know.  I have noticed that often Ephraim and Israel are interchanged, and Joseph and Ephraim, and Manasseh is often combined as well.  I have always noted that G-d says he will use Dan's warring abilities, and then I noticed that they are not listed in Revelation.  I thought about where it says that they didn't fight, that Joshua and Caleb and others helped the tribes to fight and claim their land...but not Dan...right?   
     
    You don't have to respond to this right now.  Whenever you get to it is fine.  I have waited over 20 years for an answer to this question...days/weeks/months are fine with me!
     
    You, your spouse and all of Israel...are in our prayers.  I just heard a wonderfully simple thing today, that I will always remember: 
     
    Three things that G-d cannot do:
     
    1. He cannot lie.
     
    2. He cannot fail.
     
    3. He cannot be pleased without our faith.
     
    He will have his way. 
     
    Amen. 
     
    truth
  • Trinov said on May 30, 2007....

    To Truthsayer,

    We finally are at the end of a deadline and I have some time tonight to answer comments.

    Re a trip to Israel: While I’d like to say great, come and we’d like to meet you if you make it to Tiberias, I have to say something that the Ministry of Tourism would shoot me for.

     What is it? That everybody and his uncle here feel that there is a war brewing that could very well break out any time now, especially in the summer.

    If you make sure that you get very flexible tickets, that dates can be changed, that you could cancel and not loose money, that you could get an earlier or later flight etc. then fine, it’s worth the try. For in this part of the world you never know when something will happen. But if you can’t get a flexible ticket arrangement think twice before you hand them your credit card.

    My second recommendation is that if and when you come, because of the situation, and because you are coming with children, and not as a free batchelor or mobile couple, then come on an organized tour or go with a registered tour guide.

    If you can follow the Hebrew news bulletins on the hour, this might not be necessary. Or if you are staying in one place far away from the areas in which immediate trouble could start up in, it won’t be necessary. But otherwise it would be a good idea to have a guide.

    If this sounds paranoid to you, well I’ll tell you a story. About 6 years ago we were living in Tzfat and couldn’t make a living, I had just lost a teaching job and my husband’s business was going downhill with all the competition from non licensed electricians, many of whom worked off the books. So we thought of moving to Kiryat Shmoneh, which when it isn’t getting shelled is a beautiful well kept city. (Of course it has been getting shelled periodically as long as I’ve known it, and I have a terrible memory of a crazy dentist in that town. My kibbutz sent us to him, and I was being drilled on and it started shelling, and it was getting closer and closer and the son of a bitch just kept on drilling, as if he were an escapee from the  bad cult movie “The Little Shop of Horrors”.)

     Anyway, we made a lunch and left Tzfat without listenig to the radio. When we got there at about one thirty in the afternoon it seemed awfully quiet. We assumed that the city kept the old fashioned siesta of a long break at home from one to four in the afternoon. So we were strolling happily all around the town, not meeting anyone,and almost not seeing cars. It wasn’t until the ‘all clear’ when thousands of people came out of the woodwork, that we realized that everyone else was in the shelters.

    Now for us this was very funny, we knew our friends would say, leave it to you guys to screw up like that, but you don’t want to be in such a situation with children.

    Now, re everybody having ‘Hebrew blood’. Well I don’t want to say something that might insult you, for I really have got a very good feeling about you from your comments and your enthusiasm. But having a drop of Hebrew (or Jewish) blood or being a Pauline Christian is not the criterion for being one of the Tribes.

    When would being a Christian be a likely indication of Jewish blood or Jewish ancestry? When we are talking about an intact community of pre-Pauline or original Christians in the Middle East and Asia.

     These eastern Christians, such as the  St Thomas Christians or the Syriac or Nestorian Christians were originally Jews. (Taarick Aziz was born a Christian but he needed a Muslim name and identity to progress in Iraq.) From what I’ve read the Syriac Christians in Iraq are the academics and many of the Air Force pilots.

     The Turks tried to wipe them out as they did with the Armenians, other cousins of ours, in the early part of the 20th century. There is a community in Chicago, or there was one not too long ago.

    These original Christians maintain some Jewish practices and their names used to be Aramaic. They usually do not have the same beliefs about the divinity of Jesus as do the Pauline Christians. To them he is the candidate to be the annoited king of the Davidic line. Why annointed? Simply because the when the line is broken or disputed the king must be annointed. Messiah, as you must know, comes from Mashiach in Hebrew, which means annoited. Mem Shin Chet is the root or ‘radical’ as the crazy grammarians call it in English. I just say ‘root’.

    But on the other hand, you might want to have a good look at your geneological background in the last two hundred years.

     If you come from a family in the Russian area, many secular  academic Jews converted to Christianity in the last half of the 19th century because they suddenly were faced with loosing their careers if they stayed Jewish.

    Then there was a large immigration of German Jewish males in the 19th century to America. Why? There were laws that placed an enormous fine  upon the marriage of any but the first son of a Jewish family. Over 10,000 young males left for the Americas, and the majority of them intermarried, since there were not many Jewish girls there at the time--and the ocean crossing was a deterent to any would be bride. Many of these men were peddlers to start out and so they married Ameridian women or the daughters of pioneers.

    Then there were the Spanish Jewish refugees who came to the south and to New Amsterdam. The majority of them also became Christians, as the years went by. Most of the Spanish Jews were in the South and so fought for the Confederacy.

    And we have a concept, which in Yiddish (a low German-Hebrew-aramaic-etc creol) is called a fablungete Neshama or a soul that got lost. Generations after an intermarriage this soul could turn up in an entirely non Jewish family and somehow feel close to the Jewish people. One of the ‘muck-raker’ newspaper guys of the turn of the century, his name escapes me, would attend Yom Kippor services for example, although he was a Christian..

    (There is a story from the Chabad people about a newly religious woman who was traveling on a train in the south west and she turned to a girl traveling on the next seat and invited her to her house on Friday night to Sunday. She told  this girl that she was sure that she was of ”Jewish ancestry”. The girl thought she was out of her mind but took the address to be polite.

    One Friday night she did show up with her boyfriend, they stayed for dinner but the guest told the enthusiastic hostess that she felt nothing at all.

    A year later the girl went to a screening of that long holocaust movie that came out about twenty years ago. She sat there and started to cry. And she couldn’t stop crying, and she got embarrassed for the whole movie house around her had dry eyes. So she came back to her enthusiastic hostess and said: you are right. I identified with the Jewish victims and nobody else did. I must have Jewish blood.

    When she researched her family chart thoroughly she found that she was correct.)

    In the end of days, there will be organized searches to find communities that got lost, and Eliyahu HaNavi will be there to sort everyone out with his super-natural perception

    The research that I’ve been doing is just to identify likely places to look, and it is not for publication or any other use which is why I was reluctant to mention it until Skald threw me a loop right out of the blue, that I was obviously meant to hear.

  • Trinov said on May 30, 2007....
    Just quickly re Dan: the men of this tribe were big tall heavy types  (Edgar G. Robinson was a Danite type Jew) and they, if I remember correctly, would in the dessert, be the last to leave the camps and be there to protect the rear. Dan came into the land of Israel with the rest of the tribes, and fought with the rest of the tribes. Gad, Reuven and half of the Ttribe of Menashe left their families on the other side of the Jordan but did fight together with everyone else.
     
    In the End of Days all the Tribes come back, and all of them, including Shimon this time, get their own land.
     
     The Jews of the Caucauses are a mixture of communities and individuals from Shimon, Dan, Zevulon and Yisaschar and some of the Kuzaries (who lived north of them along the Don but were transferred periodically by the Russians in the 19th century to the Caucauses). Some of the Ethiopian Jews are from Dan (others from Shimon and Yehuda). etc.
  • truthsayer said on May 30, 2007....

    I loved your response.  I am not offended in the least.  We will be coming with a tour group.  I know what it is like there and I promise not to tell the tourism department that you lovingly tutored me in safe tourism ; ) of the Holy Land.

    As to the Jewish blood.  Aside from dreams and visions, this is what I know.

    My spouse's grandmother said her ancestry was Latvian and she said that she was Jewish...but I do not know how far back we would have to go to find ancestors that were practicing Judaism. 

    My grandfather, who died four years before I was born, was a strange character indeed.  I learned alot more while my father lived with us for several years before his death.  Here is what I know.

    My great grandfather came over, as you said, in the 19th century...supposedly from Germany.  I did see a letter from someone that claimed to have known him in Germany and they said he was a tailor.  I can't remember the town at the moment.  There is lore in our family that we were actually from Austria.  Mystery and religious battles marked the family.  It seems that my grandfather was a very angry man.  He split from some of his brothers over religion.  He wouldn't speak to them anymore...it sounds like they became 'real Christians', practicing Catholics, and he wouldn't speak to them anymore.

    I don't want to bore you with this, but it is so relevant to the rest of your response.  It seems that my grandfather had a long history of being, or saying that he was antisemetic.  Which was especially strange in that my father told me he had a long standing affair with a "Jewish girl, " and that my grandmother even knew about it.  That might explain why an older Jewish lady that had a special interest in my father, took a special interest in me, when she met me (after my parents' divorce and he was in the hospital having had his teeth removed surgically, preparing for dentures ; )

    The lady's name was Mrs. Greenburg and her husband was a well known and wealthy opthomalogist (sp).  She gave my father a beautiful cameo necklace to give to me.  He said that she said that she was really taken with me and wanted me to have it.  I kept it.  I was only about 14 then, but it was always special to me.  It is very old.  I suspect that was my grandfather's former mistress.  I cannot prove it, and I don't know why she was so interested in me.  My dad said that he and  his brothers knew the Jewish mistress though.  So it was probably her.  She may have known about our heritage I suppose. 

    I suspect that we were Jewish and 'passing' as Catholics, and Grandad got mad that they actually became believers.  As for his antisemitism, I am told that is not uncommon for them to have professed sort of a self hatred (like Hitler).

    I also found a Jewish ancestry site where a Jew from Israel, that was looking for a person by our family name that was from Austria.  By the time I emailed him though, he had let that e-address go. 

    Anyway, my grandfather, on my mother's side worked for a wealthy Jewish family in Omaha, NE.  Years after my grandfather's death...I worked for the same family.  They were very protective of me, and when something happened in my personal life, in which many Christians were more judgemental of me; this family rallied around me and told all of their Russian Jewish workers in this company to watch over me and protect me too. 

    I went to a highschool that happened to have more Jewish students than any other school district.  Jewish people would always ask me if I was Jewish...was I sure that I wasn't Jewish...they even made a huge spiritual impact on me.  One girl told me that she had to deliver a message to me; and that message changed my life.

    I went to the local orthodox synogogue, looking for some history and books about the feasts and festivals (children's books, so that we could learn the basics, easily) and they said they felt that I was Jewish.  A lady ran for the Rabbi and made me wait for him.

    I attended a United Methodist Chuch growing up...and it would be a rare thing to attend a Christian church that exchanged services with a Jewish synogogue, wouldn't it?  With a senior pastor that who had planned his whole career on becoming a scholar on the Dead Sea Scrolls?  He had arranged an exchange program with a synogugue (I don't think it was orthodox though).  I learned a lot.

    Sometime, maybe my spouse and I will find occasion to share our visions and dreams...Tzfat, Hebron, and the Kineret.  But for now, I know this is plenty long winded!  I just wanted you to know how very much your post meant to both of us.  Thank you for taking all the time to answer us with such detail and kindness.

    Shalom Trinov & blessings of supernatural safety to you and yours.

    truthsayer

     

  • truthsayer said on May 30, 2007....
    Oh yes.  My maternal grandmother's father was named Dr. Elijah Brooks.  'They' had been in America for a very long time.  I have family pictures though that do not look like typical 'white' folks!  Some of my Native American friends are convinced that they were of Indian decent.  But, all I know is that some mystery enshrouded them too.  When I did a pilgramage to the town the area in Missouri they were all from...no one would talk about my grandmother's family.  It was really funny.  Nothing bad you know, just a blank look and changing the subject!  My grandmother was friends with quite a few Jewish ladies.  They would bring gifts back to her from the Holy Land and sign them with very respectful, but somehow, hopeful sayings.  She refused to tell me who they were or how she came to be friends with them.  It was a sweet mystery to me.  : )  Who knows?  I wouldn't know how to look into most of it.  I tried.  I know that the Brooks were buried in a different cemetery (Stone cemetery)  than most of the DeShon's. 
     
    I always read books/magazines and papers from 'back' to 'front' too...my kids think that is hilarious.  They know that I am an odd duck.  ; )  We went to a Messianic Congregation for quite a while (my father loved it and seemed to be set free there...his spirit really soared when we played the tape, Arise Jerusalem), the pastor was a St. Thomas convert from India.  His family passed that down to him from generation to generation.
     
    truthsayer : )
  • Trinov said on May 31, 2007....

    Dear Truthsayer,

    I am writing this for the second time, from a word document for my first try disappeared.

     

    We could try to meet you if and when you come through Tiberias.

     

    From what you have said, there is little doubt in my mind that both you and your wife are at least of Jewish ancestry.

     

    Was it your wife’s maternal grandmother?

     

    These type of secrets are rife in crypto Jewish families. Something obviously is being hidden, and it certainly sounds like the Jewish connection.

     

    When you are in Israel try to spend a day at the Diaspora Museum in Ramat Gan. Even thirty years ago they had multi-media shows that were great for kids-- they show all sorts of interesting communities around the world with animated stories, and they have a computerized data base for searching Jewish geneology.

     

    You can enter a name or a town. That’s what we did years ago, and now it should be even better..

     

    There is a Jewish Geneological society which has lots of information on Europe. My mother uses them for research from time to time. Then there is the WIZO or WISO ? center in NY which also has information.

     

    I am sure that you can find out something about names and cities etc.

     

     Is there anyone alive whom you could approach point blank and ask what exactly are they hiding from you?

     

    I have a friend who was told that she was from a German Jewish family. But her black black hair and very pale skin, and something about the way she held herself said ‘Spanish Jew’ to me (my husband’s family are Spanish Jews who migrated to the Austrian Hungarian empire sometime, we think in the 1800’s. There was something about my friend that reminded me of my husband, his sister etc)

     

    I asked her about it and she asked her parents if they were Sephardic Jews. They went totally ballistic, hysterical, yelling and screaming. She got her answer, she blew their cover, for being German Jews had a lot more status! When she did the research she had no trouble tracing the family name to the Balkans,--it was a typical Sephardic name. The funny thing was that I had given her a Balkan cookbook years before.

     

    When we were in New York for a time I was working as a sort of combined social worker,teacher, supervisor at this awful place, but anyway, there were employees there who were Puerto Ricans, and I knew that there were many from that community with Jewish roots. I had a folder of information about this connection, but I was reluctant to approach people, didn’t want to make waves.

     

    But I had a very strong feeling that I had to approach one particular teacher there. So I had the folder in my hands, and I mentioned to her quietly that I had information about Jewish ancestry of people of Spanish ethnic groups.

     

    What happened? She grabbed the folder from me, and shouted: What took you so long? And left me standing there with my mouth open. After that I sent her material to a post office box, for years. Why a post office box? Her family felt it was ‘dangerous’ to get this type of mail in their mailbox! The Inquisition left a lot of habits.

     

    Anyway, from what you just wrote, and from my gut level feelings, I think you should make an attempt to find the Jewish connection.

     

     (As an aside, I believe there are still Crypto Jews in England—communities were found there before Cromwell and met bitter ends, but they might have been the tip of the iceberg. Take a new look at Notting Hill, the Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant movie and the whole meaning of the painting in the decision to get married. My senior thesis was of secret writing in England –about hidden proto protestants who got their views out under the eyes of the vigilant Catholic establishment by the clever use of dialogue in plays. Now this same method was used by Shakespeare in The Merchand of Venice, usually considered anti-semitic but it is really something else altogether. But that is digressing.)

     

    Anyway, I found what you wrote fascinating, and again, see if there is anyone alive who would spill the beans.

     

     

  • truthsayer said on Jun 03, 2007....
    I will pursue the leads you have suggested.  I used to think that I would pay a visit to Mrs. Greenburg, but I was concerned that perhaps her family never knew about my grandfather; if she was indeed the 'mystery lady'. 
     
    I often wondered if I was actually related to some of the Jewish people that seemed to 'look after me'. 
     
    It would have been my maternal grandmother and my paternal grandfather, as the ones with the possibly crypto Jewish roots.  And my spouse's paternal grandmother.  I understand that in order for either of us to be accepted as Jewish, we have to have our mother's side proven to be Jewish...right?
     
    I didn't list my family name, because of anonymity issues here on soulcast.  I only listed a few of our more distant family names.  I found it fascinating though, as I learned more Hebrew words, that Brooks probably would have been baruch, and that Deshon was so similar to dishon...right?
     
    I may decide to write more specifically in the future.  As a couple, we have found that although I am the 'writer' people often hear both of us in the 'voice' of the writing.  It may seem a little mysterious, but for us, it seems practical and mystical at the same time.  We married folks are one, after all, aren't we? ; )
     
    How are things in Israel today?  I thought you might be interested to know which presidential candidates are in total support of Israel...would you be interested to know that?  Fred Thompson just entered the race; but I am leaning towards Duncan Hunter myself. 
     
    Who do you think (hope) will be the new Prime Minister of Israel?
     
    You might get a kick out of my Memories of Memorial Days Past blog.  I mention that I used to put a smooth stone on my grandparents head stones as a way of marking my visit and that I had honored them.  I was told later that it is a Jewish custom too.  I thought it was my own idea...silly me ; )
     
    Praying for the peace of Jerusalem and the ingathering of Israel,
     
    truthsayer 
     
  • Trinov said on Jun 04, 2007....

    Dear Truthsayer,

    Yes it is the maternal line that determines if someone is a Jew. The paternal line determines the

    Tribe.  Some people may not understand that the Heavenly archives need a system,

    and the system for everyone is according to the Mother's name.  For example Daisy the

    daughter of Lilly, or Dan the son of Lilly is how things are filed.  This is how people are prayed for, and how a Kabbalist can reach someone's file.

    Names were often changed, and when necessary misleading names were used, as many Sephardic Cryto families used  sardonic names like Bacon or very Catholic, or overly Catholic sounding names.

     We were privileged to know a rabbi who was an expert in Crypto Jewish customs and he said that not only  family names but small towns in South America were often called by Spanish names that also could be Hebrew. For example, the name Luz, which is light in Spanish, is one of the early names for Jerusalem. I noticed that many Hispanic girls had this as a second name. It is also the name of the bone that cannot be destroyed, from which everyone will be resurrected. There are stories from theholocaust about how this bone survived the crematorioms.

    Brooks could be a way of hiding Baruch and still hinting, just as names such as Holiday could hide a name like Pesach (Passover) etc.

    Can you/I use the new message box for privacy?

    As for the President of the US, I don't trust anyone since they often say one thing and do another. My first question would be, is the guy a Yalee? Was he in Skull and Bones?  According to what I've read it seems that  they play both sides of a conflict and stir things up.  Or what are his economic ties, Bechtel? Oil interests? Does he visit the little king of Spain?--many politicians do for some reason, giving credit to the One World thesis, and the role of Juan Carlos in it. I find President Eisenhower's warning about the military industrial complex very important in understanding history for the past one hundred years.

    Just as there is a plain text and a coded text in the Bible, there is something like that in political history, on the dark side. History is the tale of the 'conspiracy' that succeeded, for much of the time. Of course, G-d has ultimate control.

    My basic worry is that in Israel we have no one capable of any real understanding, in the running for anything. A picture is circulating showing Shrek and Olmert with the exact same facial expression, which is clever but pathetic.

    You mentioned before how the nations are punished for their actions toward Israel. Take a good look at psalm 83, this is talking about now. You might need a different translation, but the countries mentioned are countries of today. Once you even dip into the codes it becomes so clear.

    I do suggest that you get a copy of Rabbi Aryieh Kaplan's Living Torah, which is a free translation based on commentaries, and he was a Kabbalist and scholar. And the Art Scroll translations are the best in English for the rest of the books.(By the way, Revelations is not in our canon).

    You should try to schedule a half day at least at the Diaspora Museum to check out family names and European towns.

    As for putting a stone on the grave, that could be from a childood memory, or even a past life memory. Those things happen. I make a certain type of flatbread, in a funny shape, and when we saw the Bukkarian bakery in Jerusalem there was 'my bread' in the window. And I had very detailed dream of  being a Bukkarian woman coming to Jerusalem for the first time, in a wagon, which together with the things I saw very clearly in this shop in the dream, would date the time frame as the early 20th century or the late 19th century.( But I also had a very detailed dream of being an Armenian high school girl about to be tortured and murdered by the Turks, and I had this dream ten years before I read about this period of history. )

     

     

     

     

     

  • skald said on Jul 04, 2007....
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    I am putting the pictures back in. i don't know weather it matters but I am doing it dear Trinov.
  • Trinov said on Jul 04, 2007....
    To Sklad:Thank you again. I asked my husband to print them out for me but he forgot. I have to put them in my European file, and then when I have time make comparisons with clothing of ancient Jewish communities --especially Kurdistan, for that area --partly Iraq--- had the most exiles from the First Temple period, from what I've read--and most have moved on and away, but those who stayed were isolated for a very long time and seemed to keep their clothing, their tools, their jewelry traditional, so they are a good basis of comparison. (my computer has no access to the printer......... .......another thing, My maiden name was Sklar, and my brother worked with another carpenter with the same name, and this carpenter came from Norway!!! ......He looked like my brother, and he said that my brother looked very much like his younger brother-- so much so that he would accuse my brother of things his younger brother would do and they would end up fighting (carpenters are hot tempered from my experience)...... Every time I type Skald I almost type Sklar again, so I was reminded. .... There is a through waterway from the North sea to the Caspian sea and some animal species have used it, it was used for trade when people used shallower boats...( According to a researcher, two of whose books I have, the name Sklar was the name for glassblowers. One of my uncles worked for a glass company but further connections--well my grandfather was taken from his family as a boy to the Russian army so I don't have much information about the profession of his father.
  • skald said on Jul 04, 2007....
    Trinov.  I am glad I put the pictures in again and I hope I will hear from your comparisiona. I mean your conclusions.
    The name Sklar even though I have never heard it points to a connection with the Scandinavian counties. I think. Words beginning with Sk often come from Old Norse I have been told. This with the waterway is very interesting and I am sure there is a connection between my people and yours that way.
    I do like it so much when you tell me things and I always learn something new from you.
  • Trinov said on Jul 04, 2007....
    To Skald, thank you for the information. Some day maybe I'll have time to do my research again more formally, when we can semi-retire ? and when libraries will have most of their books for rental on line? I can hope can't I? I started to do some research on Norway, I read an early sociology book which said that there were three distinct ethnic groups there, and the group in the mountains sounded very interesting to me as being possible descendents of First Temple Exiles, (the brides wore a crown, for starters and some other interesting customs)
  • skald said on Jul 05, 2007....
    Trinov. That is very interesting maybe you will tell me more later when you have done your reseach? 
  • Trinov said on Jul 05, 2007....
    Dear Skald, once there are more of the old source books available on line for a fee, then I hopefully will be able to do more basic research, for there are no established libraries here as there are in older countries..... Columbia Library had at least 6 million books, the 42nd Street library was also enormous, so was the Brooklyn library, and there was a library in one of the museums etc. But unless there will be transfer booths that send you instantly to your destination, and I could get there and back for lunch, I'm never going to be in NY again. My traveling days are over. But maybe I will get leads on the internet, as you yourself gave me. I have to be open to new possibilities.
  • skald said on Jul 05, 2007....
    Dear Trinov.   Oh my god all those books. I wish I could read some of  them.
     Why do you say that your traveling days are over? I am sorry to hear that. What lead did I give you? I can't remember. Well Ill keep my eyes open and maby I can give you a lead but most likely you know og all the sites that I find. 
  • Trinov said on Jul 05, 2007....
    Hi, to Skald the lead that there is a tradition in Iceland that the Tribe of Benjamin got there. I had never heard this before, and as I think I mentioned, when a particular tribe is mentioned it has more credibility than just saying Lost Tribes.
  • skald said on Jul 06, 2007....
    Trinov. Funny I was just thinking of this today. My grandfather first told me of this when I was a teenager. 
  • Trinov said on Jul 08, 2007....
    Hi Skald, if you know anyone who has any more to say on this you know that I will be one thousand percent interested.
  • skald said on Jul 08, 2007....
    Trinov.   I will think about it.
  • Trinov said on Jul 09, 2007....
    To Skald, thank you.

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