• luci-fur said on May 19, 2007....

  Hi Dario,
  Just regarding this question you wrote in your post...

  I can fully admit I am the full controller of my destiny--but what happens when others make choices that impact my life and I am in no way in agreement?

  There is a growing understanding that every single thing that happens in our lives (everything) is happeneing because we have thought it into existence at some point. We have drawn it to us. Through the law of attraction. Like attracts like.  So nothing (even the things you find abhorent) happens without you first either consciously or unconsciously having allowed it into your world.

  Just something to chew over i guess. And btw, i wasn't in that other post suggesting that lucifer is 'the' source, i was merely suggesting that the energy of all beings comes from or is the same. So.. good, bad, evil, delightful - it comes from the same place ultimately.

  luci.

   

• DarioDelajesus said on May 19, 2007....

  On the "same source thing." Three times in the past 15 years I have run across a book by H. Emilie Cady "How I used truth." The strange part being all three times it has been the original  1939 edition. It was in three different States so chances are it wasn't the same book. Neither times have I read the book all the way through. In the Intro she makes a statement--"There is only God, all else is a lie."

  Also there is a verse from the prophet Isaiah-45:7-I form the light and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

    This thought is one of the great contradictions of Judeo-Christian thought and one I have found theologians dodge. Augustine called God-"the cause of all causes." He was before all things and created all things, there was nothing he did not create. Their way out is that he only allowed evil to happen to teach mankind he did not make evil evil. Of course this as with the other great contradictions is highly problematic. The leading question being-"How does a perfect God of lIght create a world containing imperfect darkness?" Agian-the theologians pin the problem on the free-will God gave to Lucifer and to mankind. But just as quickly in Augustine doctrine we learn there is absolute predestination by this same God,even to the point that if you are saved your saved no matter what or if your lost your lost----OH the confusion of the doctrines of men!

       The point being I do not flinch at this possibility as some would. But I am in the process of trying to understand it. I do know from experience this mental splitting up of Good vs Evil creates a child of misery. Could it be we are the true creators of evil? Which brings us back to our inward "godness." I am still stuck at how we practically live out that model. Any thoughts are appreciated!

  Oh-P.S.---I question my sanity if I have thought all my experiences into being-----WHY?---wow--I must be a closet sadist?

   

• thenack said on May 23, 2007....

  Hey Darion
   
  The "duality" yin-yan thing is quite a slipery concept. But just to clarify the Bible verses first.
   
    The Hebrew word for evil "rah" is used in many different ways in the Bible.  In the KJV Bible, it occurs 663 times.  431 times it is translated as "evil."  The other 232 times it is translated as "wicked", "bad", "hurt", "harm", "ill", "sorrow", "mischief", "displeased", "adversity", "affliction", "trouble", "calamity", "grievous", "misery", and "trouble." 
   
  As always the context and time of translation will decide which word. God can cause disasters, ex. Noahs flood. I believe in the context, God is describing what He has power over, sun, moon etc, and therefore all natural things. This is not "evil" as we would describe moral evil.
   
  This being said, God did not create evil, in the same way He cannot lie. Its a logical incompatibility. God is complete light, the devil chose to separate himself from God, therefore he is the opposite. There is no in between. We are all creative beings with will, as the devil. We can be creative, as can he. Sin, the creation of the devil, is the changing and manipulating of what God gave us.
   
  Predestination need not be as complicated as we make it, anyone can be saved. God has called everyone. We need to make it happen.
   
   

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