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MissMimi had asked about subspace... and here I sit, in that space right now, wondering whether and how I can possibly describe it.
 
You will hear two related, but different states described as sub-space.
 
Let me try to describe the first... where I am right now. Please know also, that different people experience different things, and I can only tell you about me.
 
The kind of sub-space I'm in right now has my whole being, emotional, physical, mental... quiet. All the noise is gone from my life, from my head... now I am in my space... my sub-space... I am whisp, and all that matters to me is whether I bring pleasure to my Master and Mistress (and I ache to serve them and for them to play with me.) This kind of sub-space is the place where you go to in your head and spirit, when you are where you belong, with the people who own you...who cherish you and love you... the place you are safe to let go and just "be", because there is nothing to worry about. Master tells me where he wants me and what he wants me doing, so I can relax into that.
 
We're about 30 mins past a pretty intense scene with Master... and I'm cycling through something weird emotionally, which might have everything to do with the other kind of sub-space...
 
The other way you'll hear the term sub-space used is for a kind of state of altered consciousness (again, different for everyone) where the combination of endorphins and adrenalin and emotion just reach a peak so high that the body and mind take a holiday... some describe this as almost an "out of body" experience, others might describe it as very similar to a state of deep hypnotic trance, or dissociation.
 
What it feels like for me is very floaty, mind wandering very lazily, no reason to move, just drop into the sensation. I've only had tastes of it, not sure I've ever really been there.
 
MissMimi, the element that is left out of all this explanation is the element of care by the Dominant, which is absolutely vital at this point... the Dominant learns what the sub needs at this time... she may wish to be wrapped in a blanket and left on the sidelines, where she can still hear her Master is near, but she doesn't wish to be touched. Other subs don't want their Master to let go of them... he may hold her, massage her, put cream on bruises... it's all very individual. Some are silent at this time... some babble all the way through it.
 
I hope that all of you who have been participating will help me fill this in for MissMimi.. my brain seems to be taking a bit of a vacation.
 
And MissMimi... about the porn... next post... Master calls.


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  • MissMimi said on May 07, 2007....

    whisp, thank you for the explanation. The only thing I can compare it to (and this may be way off base) is when I sit in front of the computer and write and write, when the words just seem to flow freely without my having to reach and struggle. Everything else is drowned out by the words in my head, and I can only rush to get them down before they slip away. I don't know if I'm explaining this very well.

    I think the element of aftercare that a good Dom provides sounds lovely.  I'm sure the feel of your Master's gentle touch as you float in your space makes you feel treasured and safe.   I would think that the emotions can be so overwhelming that it would make you cry.

  • Master_Williams_whisp said on May 07, 2007....

    MissMimi, I understand exactly what you are talking about with the writing... it's as if you just disappear into a different zone, and everything around you fades into the background. And you're right, it's very much like that.

  • sweetsoul said on May 07, 2007....

    MWw may I commend you on your explanations. Frankly I was wondering what words you would put together to explain.

    As a comment on the topic of after care, I remember being at a session given by Midori when she explained, among other things, the importance of discussing the type of after care the submissive desires before playing. She said nothing is worse than a top, or in her case Domme, providing the exact opposite kind of after care than the bottom needs. Holding her close when she wishes to be left alone. Talking things out when she'd rather leave.

  • Master_Williams_whisp said on May 08, 2007....

    sweet soul, thank you for your kind comment... I didn't know if I was going to be able to do it either.

    I've heard a lot of great things about Midori.... one of them being that she is rabid about proper aftercare. It's an interesting thought to discuss aftercare beforehand, and I guess if you're experienced and you know what you will need, it only makes sense to make it known.

    For me, however that has yet to be determined... I'm just finding out what I need.

  • sweetsoul said on May 08, 2007....
    MWw I think after care is key to Midori and her lectures because she's taking into consideration people who play/scene with virtual strangers and aren't part of a relationship so don't have any history/experience together.
  • Master_Williams_whisp said on May 09, 2007....
    sweetsoul... that makes a lot of sense, and that kind of play isn't within my realm of experience yet. Thanks a lot for the clarification.
  • anonymous said on Jan 15, 2008....
    i thought this was a very good, short and simple explanation of what subspace is.. in both senses of the word.. i just referred a.. friend to this page to try to explain what subspace is to him... i believe the words i used in trying to explain it to my friend were "mental orgasm" but yours is much more definative. lol. but now i find myself wanting to share what subspace is like for me.. when Jenn and i get into a really intense scene, and she finds that perfect combination of unbearable pain and the deepest intense pleasure i just.. disconnect. it's like being in a dream when you cant move or react no matter how hard you try. the whole state for me is dreamlike. i'm aware of whats going on, and there are emotions associated with the actions occuring, but i dont fully recognize either those actions or those emotions. i'm wholly incapable of movement or speech, and its terrifying and exhilirating at the same time. i cant do anything.. nothing at all, except feel these intense emotions. aftercare, well, Jenn moves away from me so we arent touching at all, i can't stand anything touching my skin after.. but she pets my hair and makes these soothing sounds.. its almost as beautiful as the scene itself. :)

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