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Someone sent the contents of this post in an e-mail. I have read extensively about the Middle Ages, and opinions vary about how life was during these times. I am not saying the following is true, not even knowing the source, but life was probably something similar.
 
I do know, for instance, that in the 1500's "doctors" placed freshly killed pidgeons at the feet of a sick person to "draw out the bad vapours". So here is something to think about the next time you feel you have it bad-
 
"The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500's:"
 
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and still smelled pretty good in June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.
 
Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the priviledge of the clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last were the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "don't throw the baby out with the bath water".
 
Houses had thached roofs- thick straw piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained, it became slippery and sometimes they would fall off the roof. That became "its raining cats and dogs".
 
The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, hence the saying "dirt poor". They would spread thresh (straw) on more thresh until it would start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the doorway, which became a "thresh hold".
 
They cooked with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day, they added things, mostly vegetables, to the pot. Leftovers were always in the pot, hence the rhyme "peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old".
 
Those with money had plates of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next four hundred years , tomatoes were considered poisonous.
 
Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom, family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the "upper crust".
 
England is old and small and the locals started running out of places to bury people. They would dig up the coffins and would take the bones to a bone house, and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they were burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, thread it through the coffin and up through the ground to a bell. Someone would sit in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell; thus someone could be "saved by the bell" or be a "dead ringer".
 
      So what do you think of your complaints now?


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  • silverwhisper said on May 02, 2007....
    i've often wondered about the ringing thing!

    ed
  • secretlife said on May 02, 2007....

    LOL...they were burying people alive....oh geez.  Can you imagine walking along and hearing one of those bells ringing????

    i thought i was hung up on that once a year bath thing...til i got to the part where people were bathing once a year in dirty water.

    complaints?  i have no complaints after that....

    btw, one expression i use all the time is raining cats and dogs.  i never knew where that came from!

  • gingersoul said on May 02, 2007....

    Beyond....really interesting....i knew about the bouquet, the bath, the tomatoes and the raining cats and dogs....i wasnt sure about the origin of the bell though ....

     thanks.....:-)

     

  • wombat said on May 02, 2007....
    Just wanted to say thanks--I enjoy reading things like this!  Any time you have more, please post.
  • mommyof2 said on May 02, 2007....
    This shit is true?? Damn glad I'm living now!
  • mobil said on May 02, 2007....
    Life then sounds very much like life did for the homesteaders of the last
    century in the American West, many similarities ...........not the
    graveyard part though LOL............Thanks Beyond
  • beyondtheveil said on May 02, 2007....
    Ed- That one I had read before. Those old sayings and rhymes have to come from somewhere.
     
    secret- Yea, the bath water is bad enough, but the bell makes you shiver, doesn't it? The cats and dogs- who would have ever thought?
     
    ginsoul- The only ones I knew about were the bell, tomatoes, and graveyard shift.
     
    wombat- Glad you enjoyed it. If I find some more, I will.
     
    mommyof2- You and me both. And I was complaining about dinner tonight.
     
    mobil- You're right. Don't have to go back very far to find it. But I wonder how many in the West needed a bell?
  • Lioness said on May 02, 2007....
    hmm.. this sounds pretty interesting to me.. thanks for the info.. some sounds absurd (the bath thing... ugh!) , but it still seems related. =)
  • mom said on May 02, 2007....
    Beyond- that was wonderful,  I love little known facts like these.  The buried alive thing I had heard before from my doctor.  I have a very faint pulse and it is hard to detect and this caused her to go into the story about being buried alive. Spooky huh?
  • beyondtheveil said on May 03, 2007....
    lioness- When reading about this, I was thinking why not find a river or stream somewhere? Anything would be better than being fifth or sixth in that tub.
     
    mom- I was surprised about knowing only three of these because I've read so much history. There is probably a whole book of these somewhere.
  • mom said on May 03, 2007....
    beyond-  I heard also the people didn't bathe during the Victorian era.  They would put powder over the sweat and bodies, and just keep doing that.  That is so gross. I have to bathe at least once a day or I feel like a bum.
  • beaker said on May 03, 2007....
    That's really interesting! I didn't know most of that. Anyway here's my two penneth; In the middle ages if you were female, old and ugly, you didn't stand much chance of surviving, especially if someone took a disliking to you and made up stories about what they had seen you doing,and if you owned a black cat.
    If I'd have lived in Europe in the middle ages, I wouldn't fancy my chances of survival either seeing as I am left handed. Because Christ is traditionally depicted as sitting at God's right hand, this hand became associated with good and righteousness. Witches were supposed to use their left hand more than their right to stir their brews, and work their evil magic! cackle cackle cackle.
  • mom said on May 03, 2007....
    Beaker- that was pretty cool.  I didn't know that.
  • flytimes said on May 03, 2007....
    Were deffinetly living more comfortable lives today, and we have soo much more in this day and age But It makes me feel very sad that theres still millions of people in many countrys who are still living like that and it always makes me feel guilty of all the luxurys we have , like clean water on tap, gas, electric, never mind all the electrical and other possesions we own.
  • fearing said on May 03, 2007....
    I have never been more thankful than to be born in this day and age!  Deodorant, clean water and indoor plumbing - Yea!
  • muckpar said on May 03, 2007....
    Very interesting. 
  • Lioness said on May 04, 2007....
    Lol Beyond, talk about lack of common sense. =)
  • botoni said on May 04, 2007....
    Just to add a couple of sayings to the collection.
    Ale was served in pitchers with rounded bottoms in the public houses. (Imagine the KoolAid pitcher without a flat bottom). It was necessary to keep one hand on the pitcher to keep it from rolling over or to keep it from 'pitching'. When one was to drunk to be able to keep it from tipping...one was 'tipsy'.
    Meat was an expensive commodity. When a family could afford a piece it was hung in the rafters after being smoked. Usually a piece of pork. When the wage earner had a few extra coins he would 'bring home the bacon'.
    For entertainment people would gather around the hearth. The host would cut a strip of rind from the bacon hanging there. Folks would sit around and 'chew the fat'.
    I like this. Anyone have anymore? I ll be back once I ve had my yearly bath.....ehehhe
  • mom said on May 04, 2007....
    Bot- that was pretty cool.  I love knowing these little stories
  • beyondtheveil said on May 06, 2007....
    mom- That makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Cake your body with powder instead of using free water.
     
    beaker- This was interesting, I didn't know about the left handed part.
     
    flytimes- Your point is a good one. By sheer numbers, there may be more living similar to this in the world than in the middle ages.
     
    fearing- Believe me, I am thankful too.
     
    bot- Thanks for the extras. Its about time for my yearly bath too.
  • beaker said on May 11, 2007....
    Just read some news; A book believed to be 300 hundred years old, and bound in human skin has been found dumped in a street in Leeds, west yorkshire England. It is written mostly in French and is covered in human skin.
    They reckon it was not uncommon during the French revolution to do this. Usually to document a murder trial, and then the book is bound in the killers skin. Morbid eh?
  • beyondtheveil said on May 25, 2007....
    beaker- Wow. From the French revolution I could expect almost anything, but this is taking it a little far.
  • silverwhisper said on May 25, 2007....
    liberty, egality and fraternity my a$$!

    ed

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