I recently saw an interview of Richard Dawkins in which he argued quite successfully that religious people do not base their “morals” on their religious texts. Instead, they base their ethics on the exact same source as atheists — a constantly shifting consensus of ethical behavior. They then use that standard as a filter to find support in their own religious text, ignoring the portions that disagree.
For example, slavery, racism, and sexism are widely condemned in the United States and much of Western society. Christianity has adapted to find Biblical support for those positions while ignoring or explaining away the portions that appear to advocate slavery, racism, or sexism. For the same reason, Jewish and Christian practitioners do not follow the Old Testament laws that mandate a death penalty for trivial offenses.
Unfortunately, I haven’t had much time to read much of Parenting Beyond Belief yet. There are a couple books ahead of it on my reading list.
Dawkins is an idiot, I have seen video tapes of him , the high priest of evolution, not being able to answer even the simplest questions. But sometimes he is honest at least, Dawkins was one of the first to admit that atheism and therefore with it evolution, is a religion. You can look it up yourself, he said it.
Anonymous, I agree that religious people will also adapt to acceptable ethical standards, thats fine. I am saying there should be a baseline, and there is no way that baseline came from thin air, as evolution proposes. God gave it, we mess it up. The point I am making with Hitler is that he followed what evolution preached, I very happy that most evolutionists don't, but he did. I a Christian does something wrong, he does it because he is NOT adhering to Christian teaching, which is the other way around. People can not decide what is moral by thinking alone, because A. we are not only thoughts, and B, this is relative and won't work, because we are all different, and with different goals. So thinking alone is not enough. Hitler thought, he had a goal that drove those thoughts, evolution gave him that freedom. (as a side note, catholic is pretty much not Christian in my opinion. Christian is someone who believes the scriptures, not change them. and no I am not condemning all catholics, but the catholic church.)
Anti, Salver, racism and sexism are condemned by the bible, why do you condemn them, on what basis. Slavery for instance was opposed in England by a Creationist, William Wilberforce, because he didn't think for himself, but throught t what the bible teaches.
If Christains base their ethics on what people think is cool, they are on dangerous territory, What people think is a very stupid way of deciding what is morally acceptable, really, look at history.
Whats so bad with moral extremism anyway,
whats wrng with only sleeping with my wife, and not lusting after porn or other men or women? Won't you want such a husband?
Whats wrong with not gettign stoned or drunk and swearing and shouting and breaking?
whats wrong with not stealing? do you like to get stolen from?
Whats wrong with not killing unborn babies, or children, or strangers for money? It could have happened to you
Whats wrong with being a straight manly man of God, or a feminine women? Why are these things being opposed?
Whats wrong with believing that God loves you and knows whats best, having the faith to trust Him to know better, instead of struggeling through life always worrying?
Whats wrong with searching for truth, instead of what fits with what you want NOW?
Whats wrong with multiracial relationships and freandships, the bible teaches it? Who were men to oppose it?
I could go on all day, what are your morals, will they be the same tommorow and what if you were wrong today? Who is going to take the blame, or the bad results.
And finally, statistcs show a extremely strong correlation between moral decay and taking God out of churches and replacing Him with evolution. If you don't believe me , look up some dates and numbers yourself, be truthfull and objective, if you like free thinking and science so much, go and do some of it for yourself.