mimi:
i was going to put up a post today about my non-existent sex life.
I decided not to. it makes me too sad to write about it.
I'm sorry you're so sad about the changes in your marriage. and i'm sorry he is sending the message to you that it isn't important enough to him to discuss.
i know the message only because my husband sends me the same one.
Dear Mimi, I found some comfort in knowing im not the only one frustrated in my marriage. I find myself so frustrated being the only one to initiate conversations with my husband when he is ignoring because he's pissed off at me again for some strange reason that Im supposed to drag out of him. We go from being ok to him sulking around not speaking to me until I cant take it anymore and I confront him about it. I am so very tired of it always being ME. Otherwise he would just live with that elephant in the room for who knows how long. i just wanted to say that understand somewhat ur not wanting to talk about it with him just yet.
MissMimi, you have a big heart, and a tender heart. You cannot fault him for loving you, or, maybe being a little intimidated by your eloquence either ; )
You have good friends in here, and that can only be because you are a good friend. Mobil, Zayda and mom know you particularly well, don't they? I think I would listen...I mean, what do you have to loose? You have so much going for you, you deserve to have that talk...no matter who starts it, don't you? You wouldn't want to do as you say, and look back at a moment in time, where you might have been able to change that future, with giving a little bit more...
I do know how you feel though. I just want to remind you what Zayda, Mobil and mom said, that is so true. The other one? The one that is not the proficient communicator? It is really really hard for them. At least, it usually is.
Is there a chance that he has gotten used to waiting for you?
Just a thought. I know how self-protective we humans can be.
I know you will do what you know needs to be done (whatever that is, you'll know); cuz that's the kind of lady you are...I can tell.
truth
I can't relate to this situation but I just wanted to say, it always works out in the end no matter what we decide to do now.
I never had a problem talking to my ex-husband, as a matter of fact I had to learn to stop talking when he was too drunk to listen. He refused to open up to me about some of the abuse he suffered as a child and I am hearing more about it now that we are not married. I think he tries to get people not to like his mom so they don't tell him he's disrespectful to her.
Maybe that is part of your problem, there's either too much respect causing you not to want to bring up what's bothering you or there's not enough respect to cause you to not care about what is going on inside his head. Just a thought.
Mimi.......you ask....is this what happen to couples? A sexless life?
No...it doesn't have to happen ....
But sex at the end was what kept together my ex and me...great sex, more than twice at day sex, adventurous, hours long sex, until the dawn sex...sex even the last night we spent together before he left me the mornign after......
Sex was our way to communicate. And it was a tender, passionate, violent, sweet, hurried, long, sensual sex. Any kind of sex you might think of.... we had it.
Did the sex alone save us? No. We are divorced.
What didn't save us was: communication, soul intimacy, partnership.
Our couple therapist told us we were like two foreigners speaking two different languages and sex was our dictionary.
I have been like you: always the one who wanted to dig, talk, understand. He was the one uncapable of helping me out when i was upset or depressed. So i started to look for emotional support somewhere else. My friends would listen and talk my same language. But in doing so both of us stopped to go to the other one to grow together....
We found out we didnt have anything in common anymore. Yet, i have been until the end the one willing to rebuild, restart, renovate, refind.....but it was too late.
You have two choices, Mimi: talking to us about him or going to him and talk to him about yourself, about your marriage.
I would do like LJ suggest: slip in his bed and love him THEN finally talk. Until is dawn and you have no more voice.....without anymore secrets. You have nothing to lose so you cant lose anything.... not even your pride.
There is no proud in living a life filled with frustration and loneliness.
If you love him or simply if you want a better, healthier life for yourself..
Just open that door and your mouth. Do it for yourself, first of all.
Unless you don't talk because you are afraid of what he might say....
But this would be a whole differen story, isn't?....
Are you a coward?
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Mimi....and i should have added that I know you are not a coward.......{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}.
There is so much wisdom here. The number of responses touches me very much.
I can only tell you that through the 29 years of our marriage, I have initiated these uncomfortable conversations more times than I can count. We talk, or rather, I talk, pour my heart out, and get very little response. That's very frustrating for me, and I'm sure for him as well. I understand that it's hard for him to deal with emotions, which is why I kept trying.
Am I a coward? Yes maybe. I'm afraid that if I reach out again, it will mean more frustration, and rejection. Or maybe I'm afraid that he'll be receptive, and that will leave me with some very difficult choices to make.
LJ.......thank you .....{hug}
SW and Alyss.....i used the term coward.....but it was in a rhetoric way and I think Mimi understood perfectly what i wanted to say......
and, Alyss, in my comment i explained that myself i reached out for a long, long time....until the end...so i know what it means...
Its indeed true that sometimes we suffer and yet we prefer not to take that ultimate step that could put us out of our comfort zone........and we we drag our partner and ourselves in a well established routine...we suffer each in our separate way ....
Be strong Mimi.....{{{{{hugs}}}}
I was in a marriage that lasted over 17 years to a very dear woman. I know it sounds ridiculous, but the marriage we began with eventually became a friendship, any sense of intimacy had disappeared, and we divorced. Our three kids were shocked. There had been no fights, either verbal or physical... ever. I believe we cared for each other, but not as husband and wife.
I'm very happy to say our friendship has endured and we have lived with a shared sense of mutual respect for over 5 years now. We have always presented a unified parental front to our kids to reinforce the unconditional love we have for them and the strength of that parental love. They have always have come first.
I adore my children, all five of them. We have one of those families that has been combined and now has begun its exponential growth as all of our kids become adults. First my stepson had a son just after highschool with his sweetie. These two amazing Mellenials have beat the odds and have put together a wonderful family. They have proven that young people can make a commitment to each other and to their children. They are now a family of four as they have honored us with two sweet grandchildren. The oldest is a young boy of just over five years while his little sister (whom he would take a bullet for) is not quite 20 months old. Our little granddaughter bears a striking resemblance to my dear wife. It excites me to think another human being with my wife's magical smile and pixie-like ways will be part of the family.
Mimi, I'd like to write more, but I guess the jist of my ramblings is if there are kids involved, you can get through a separation such as your considering. It was hard for and on everyone involved, but it was honest and primarily amicable. I wish you well Mimi