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Does Bush deserve to die?

If you had the chance to assassinate Bush with impunity—you could suffer no negative consequence—would you do it?

I want to get an idea of what percentage of people think he does deserve to die. Please also mention how your friends / family feel if you know.

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Yes, I say, but it's too late. The time would've been 2003–2005. Now the damage is done. Now it wouldn't be politically expedient. It would cause more tumult in a weakened system. So, no, I say finally. I wouldn't assassinate him even if I were granted impunity.


Moh W.


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  • uniquely-ironic said on Mar 29, 2007....
    I wouldn't.  I realize I'm in the minority, but I have a lot of respect for anyone who would attempt the job the president does.  I don't want the job.
     
    I'm from a largely conservative group of family and friends.  We're not always crazy about what's going on in Washington, but the motto "Don't criticize what you can't fix" comes to mind.
     
    Realistically, anyone who does the president's job is bound to make someone unhappy.
  • Dunedin said on Mar 29, 2007....
    @u-i: Yeah, it's a tough job. All presidents make someone unhappy. But it seems that Bush has made the world less hospitable for many groups in many parts of the world while improving nothing. I used to credit him for improving the economy after 9/11, but I'm not sure he deserves such credit. I wouldn't have asked this question about any other president of the last 100 years, because the enormity of their errors doesn't compare. I agree with your choice, but our reasons are different. 
  • SeeingRed said on Mar 29, 2007....
    Great example of blind hatred!  I know of no one who thinks this way and frankly quite pleased that I do not. I only read it or hear it from the extreme far left fanatics and enemies of this nation. I'm ashamed that I dignified this post with a comment. To be blind and still can see is the lowest form of ignorance.SR 
  • TinSoldier said on Mar 29, 2007....
    No, I wouldn't. Maybe I'm naive but even with a rash of bad decisions I don't believe that Bush is an evil man at heart. I would have a tough time making that call on anyone.

    In fact, I respect him for making tough decisions even if those decisions are unpopular. The problem, of course, is that some of those decisions were wrong. It's difficult to rectify that.

    There's almost always a better answer. Plus, time will be up in another year or so.

    To quote Gandalf: "Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


  • TinSoldier said on Mar 29, 2007....
    Way to stick yourself out there in harm's way, anonymous! I really respect you for standing up for your guy!

    Oh, wait. You didn't, since you posted anonymously. Never mind.

    I'm a Republican and I don't support Bush anymore.
  • Dunedin said on Mar 30, 2007....
    @SeeingRed: A fitting name you have.

    SeeingRed mentions blind hatred, of which she seems exemplary. I hadn't thought about Bush as someone I hate. It's true that I hate him. But not in the overemotional way that SeeingRed blows her top. I don't wish Bush dead because of hatred. I don't wish Bush to suffer or feel pain.

    By the way, I lean right.


    @TinSoldier:
    Bush is not evil, yet I would have been relieved at his death. If I'd had the authority, I would have ordered his death with a clear conscience.

    A president takes on a great deal more responsibility than most men could handle. Bush is most men. Mentally he was unfit to be president. He hadn't the capacity to handle the great responsibility. He fed the Mogwai after midnight. He failed and failed and as our leader and prime representative caused our country to falter. It wasn't isolated mistakes, it was episodic. A man should not assume great responsibility unless he is prepared to pay a great price for his consistent failure. Bush, as the symbol and perpetrator of America's contemporary shame, should have been eliminated apropos.

  • uniquely-ironic said on Mar 30, 2007....
    One more thought on this touchy subject.
     
    If we are willing to put to death those who we disagree with or dislike, are we not coming dangerously close to the radicals we are now fighting?
  • TinSoldier said on Mar 31, 2007....
    How do you define 'most men' though? How exceptional does a person have to be in order to be president? Should the office of the president have so much power that only an exceptional person can hold it?

    I think that he is fit to be president mentally. He's probably a smarter guy than I am, communication skills and media representation not withstanding.

    Making wrong decisions does not make a person stupid or evil. They just make him wrong. The unfortunate side effect is that said persons tend to defend those decisions even in the face of evidence to the contrary.
  • Dunedin said on Apr 01, 2007....

    @u-i: I don't think we're coming close at all. The question asked here is the question governments ask routinely. The US gov tried many times to take out Castro—for good reason—and failed. Is the US gov radical? I don't think so. Attempting to eliminate Castro was prudent.

    There's a big difference between 1) hating those who don't subscribe to your views and wanting to destroy them en masse and 2) wishing the removal of a tumor that has an injurious effect on your government. I believe that if something had happened to remove Bush and Cheney from office between ~2003–2005, our country would be better off today. The best way to ensure an absence is to manufacture one.

    I said in a previous post that I had never thought of Bush as someone I hated until SeeingRed mentioned it but that upon thinking about it I did hate him. I recant. I inaccurately described my feelings. I'm frustrated by his obtuseness but feel no enmity toward him. Maybe we'd get along if we met. Hunting buddies.

    But he's not just a good ol' boy anymore. He's lead the country into a lose-lose situation. I believe that when a man becomes president, he becomes his country. Not to the extent that a king becomes his country, but still. It is natural and right for a body to remove that which causes it harm, even if the harmful element is of the body. You don't cuss a tumor or give it a low approval rating or impeach it; you ablate it.

  • Dunedin said on Apr 01, 2007....

    @TS: Most men in this case means men unsuitable for the presidency. I'm not implying that most men are inferior to the president.

    Einstein was smarter than me. I'll wager that he was smarter than you, too. It doesn't mean we want him as president. Each of us is suited for different tasks. Bush is inadequate as president. (And Kerry probably would've been more inadequate.)

    No, wrong decisions don't make a person stupid. But continual failure to admit or recognize the wrongness of decisions does.

  • jasonrest said on Apr 03, 2007....
    It's rather ironic to see how many people would not cause Bush any harm considering the thousands of soldiers and still counting that have died because of unwarranted decisions that this man has made. Let's ask them what they think!
    Oh you say they died for a cause.....ok what cause would that be... the WMD's or How the Iraqi's flew planes into the towers......oh no wait they didnt do that....man this is complicated heh!
  • TinSoldier said on Apr 04, 2007....
    As a veteran of both Desert Storm and of the current Iraq war I would not wish Bush any harm.

    For what it's worth.

    I've never thought that going into Iraq had anything to do with WMDs or Iraqis flying planes into the towers. It was about finishing what we started in 1990-1991. For me, it is still, and was always about that.

    I am disappointed that it wasn't planned for properly though.
  • Dunedin said on Apr 06, 2007....
    New angle:
     
    Do you think it's only commie pinheads who wish Bush harm?
     
    Or do some from the right wish him harm? 
  • jasonrest said on Apr 06, 2007....
    Tin soldier,
    I can only imagine that you are a senior NCO. I respect your position SGT. and the fact that you acknowledge the poor planning, however I would not give Bush that much credit. I would not wish the commander in chief any harm at all however, I would like to see better planning and a greater respect for the people and other branches of government.
  • TinSoldier said on Apr 06, 2007....
    jason -- I was a middle-level NCO and still a worker bee for the most part.

    I'm not in the service any longer now.
  • jasonrest said on Apr 06, 2007....
    I am a specialist currently deployed at the moment. I go to the board in may. piece of cake. Promotion based on memorization of random facts that I will never use, well for the most part anyway. You've done great things for your country sir.
    My hat is off to you but you cant see that. I didnt really have my hat on at all but you get the point.
  • TinSoldier said on Apr 06, 2007....
    Well come visit my blog then if you're interested, jasonrest.

    There's a lot of family stuff but I plan on continuing military stories too. Sorry to hijack your thread, Mohamed.
  • AlisonMarie19 said on Apr 12, 2007....
    Well, technically, to say that you want to kill the president is a crime. Actually, a felony. Tread carefully, Mohamed. Especially with your screen name.
     
                                 ^-^ ali m.
  • Dunedin said on Apr 12, 2007....
    Alison,

    Soon after I created this post, copsunited tried to communicate what you have. His comment was harassing, so I deleted it. I researched him and found this post from silverwhisper. I blocked him.

    In response to his comment, I changed my original post. I added at the end "even if I were granted impunity" to reiterate what I had already specified in the second paragraph.

    I haven't threatened anyone.

    I'm within my First Amendment rights to discuss an impossible hypothetical situation. There is no way that I or anyone could be granted impunity—i.e., invulnerability from all harm. Also, I have specified a time frame that is in the past. I can't travel time.

    However, you raise a good point. Even if millions of the US population would do it (if granted impunity), out of fear of government imposition many would not admit it publicly.
  • AlisonMarie19 said on Apr 13, 2007....

    I didn't say that you did directly threaten anyone. All I said was to tread carefully.

                       ^-^ ali m.

  • Dunedin said on Apr 14, 2007....
    Thanks for your concern, Ali. 
  • MsBradford07 said on Apr 15, 2007....
    I have to agree with jason one that point, but I wouldn't kill. But I think that Bush is a hypocrite. He says he's a Christian, but you are doing not so Christian-like things with the war and happen with Hurricane Katrina.
  • tinfoilman said on Apr 17, 2007....
    Human knowledge, no matter how proliferate, will always be limited without the wisdom of the soul. Without that intuitive perception there is on powers of cognition, reason, and disputation. I found your post by following the scent of hate, fostered by, of all reasons politics. Why do you try to deny the obvious? At least be authentic in your being, even if it is hate. Except by the right exercise of reason can one hope to come out from their delusions, for otherwise he would not even have known he was in it! TFM
  • tinfoilman said on Apr 17, 2007....
    correction- no powers of cognition...   TFM
  • Dunedin said on Apr 18, 2007....
    TFM, your voice seems cogent, yet your assumption about me is idle. I hope to hear more from you on my other posts.

  • kelly said on Apr 28, 2007....
    "I didn't say that you did directly threaten anyone. All I said was to tread carefully."

    Yes, tread carefully indeed, for the president has ways of depriving you of your rights.
  • Dunedin said on Apr 29, 2007....
    @TFM: According to SeeingRed's blog, you and he are the same person. You repeated what you said the first time but in more eloquent language.


    @Kelly: Silverwhisper suggested that I might want to discuss music with you. The direct link to my blog isn't working, so if you're interested click this one: http://www.soulcast.com/user/posts/72020

  • tinfoilman said on Apr 30, 2007....
    Mohamed.W - Allow intellectual schizophrenia to justify the change in language. TFM
  • TheBillMan said on May 02, 2007....
    I am NOT afraid of "The Men In Black", the ones who come to take you away if you even THINK about breathing on the "president", even though he is a total waste of flesh. I think he should go to Africa, with NO immunizations, and be subjected to ALL of the sicknesses that these people deal with on a daily basis. Then he needs to be hoisted up by the ankles, dipped into a vat of double-edge razor blades, and drug along the beaches of america by an ATV. It's too bad HE can't be impeached... He only stole our money to make more cash blowing the Iraqi's for the oil rights!
  • JohnyBottom said on Sep 29, 2007....
    Not only would I do it, I've fantasized about it
  • NewsMan said on Oct 04, 2007....
    What a couple of sick F _ _ _s. Real F_ _ _ing intellectuals.

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