• silverwhisper said on Mar 07, 2007....

  this is a very interesting question!
  
  i take responsibility for things over which i can exercise some measure of influence: my mood, my relationships w/ people, my health--all the same things you do. i refuse to take responsibility (although i still feel guilty) over things w/ which i am associated (some aspects of getting a job done, etc) for things over which i can exercise zero control--that way lies madness, IMHO.
  
  ed

• VICARIOUS said on Mar 22, 2007....

  I find it funny that we all deal with such quanderies, yet when a person of fame and fortune's membership is found to have simalir traits we chastize them.
   
  Celebs aren't there for us to emulate or our children to use as role models. We assume they care. Would you? We pay them ludicrous amounts of money and they do waht we'd all do, loose their friggen minds. We chastize because we are jealous.
   
  One day I hope to find out what that feels like.

• VICARIOUS said on Mar 22, 2007....

  Most responsibilty we feel is learned guilt. I found that if I just live my life and not worry about the way I may be influencing my children or others, things run smoother. Guilt sucks; especially guilt felt for not feeling guilty.

• dazediva said on Mar 22, 2007....

  Vicarious & Silverwhispher ... I think you two are the only ones who will respond to me *lol*  I guess I'm just not writting interesting enough stuff ...
   
  Silverwhispher .. may I call you Ed ?  I agree ... if there is zero control - there's no way to take full responsibility .. yes you can feel guilty in a way - but it's not your fault that things haven't gone according to plan
   
  Vicarious - If only it were so easy to just live life and not worry about anything ... You're right in saying most responsibility is due to learned guilt ... Even when things you know aren't due to your doing, you feel guilty because it still had something to do with your doing .. and if only you could have influenced it another way ....

• Alyss said on Mar 23, 2007....

  Responsibility is a complex beast. In part it is, as Vic said, about guilt but it's also about duty. I've always been responsible in the traditional sense, studying & working hard, doing the right thing and so on.
  
  I think responsibility comes in different tiers; personal responsibility, family responsibilities, work responsibilities and so on but they all originate from one's inner self. Not dissimilar to conscience.

• VICARIOUS said on Mar 23, 2007....

  Lol, I never said it was easy to live life not owrrying, but it can be done.
  I agree with Alyss, the whole collective responsibility thing comes from inner slef; not sure if it is innate or learned.
   
  Great post.

• silverwhisper said on Mar 23, 2007....

  dazediva: sure, call me ed. and yes, you sometimes feel guilty for things over which you have no control. the trick is in recognizing what control you can actually possibly wield in a given circumstance.
  
  ed

• dazediva said on Mar 23, 2007....

  Alyss -  I agree with the whole tiers of responsibility ... ultimately they all originate from ones inner self.  It's almost inbred in us to be that way. 
   
  And thanks for responding to this post ... I was beginning to think only Ed and Vic (can I call you Vic?) were responding out of sympathy for the newbie !
   

• pixiegirl2 said on Mar 24, 2007....

  atleast someone does respond to u,lol wow that is a lot of responsibility, well we are kinda responsible for everything that we are involved. u know my biggest prob is responsibility, no matter, how hard i try to be responsible, i screw up in the end, or atleast that's what i think. i have the feeling that it's never good enough, no matter whatever i do, it's just not good enough. i'm not helping anything here am i? well, if u ask me, sometimes, we can't have control of what happens around us, we can't be perfect, no one is perfect and nothing is perfect.

• D6fer said on Mar 24, 2007....

  I think there are many levels of responsibility....but if everyone would exercise more personal responsibility then most other things would fall in place.

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