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Do your loved ones appreciate you humor?

 

I explain.

During our marriage I have had countless moments in which I really thought I was having for husband the most dull and humorless man in the world.

Still now, after all these years, I have to admit I don’t really know what kind of humor was working for him.

 

Yet, I know he was a very silly guy, we had belly aching episodes with tears in our eyes because of the laughter but I think we've never shared the same look at life that generates the same humor. His friends and family were roaring laughing around him. I laughed too.

But I don’t think he ever completely got my humor and the fact that I used to make fun of him or poking at his weakness as a show of affection. Not for hurting him.

 

He didn’t really understand that my humor at his expense was a sign of love and intimacy....that it wasn’t remotely used to undermine him in any way. I loved teasing him. It was a way to show affection. I would make fun of his slow baldness, of his love handles if he was gaining weight or is lack of a rounder ass when he was too skinny, of his poor vision when he was without glasses...nothing was aimed to offend him.. but  I guess he never really got how much love was in those jokes...

I have tried to explain to him that Italians can laugh to everything, even love. And when we tease somebody is a sign of esteem. My ex arrived to the point of associating my dry uimor to having just a pessimistic vision of life.....like i was too cynical....a downer......

 

I have had similar conversation with some Mexican and Italians and they got it perfectly. The Yankees can take themselves so seriously......

Teasing is a sign of affection.

I tease mercilessly just the people I love and care the most. There are a lot of my friends who share my same attitude and reply to me with the same merciless humor ....I love any quick, wit, fast exchange of my same humor....

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Sometimes I know I have to take back my jokes, I have to bite my tongue because I am afraid I might come out too direct, for some people to the point of rude. My closest American friends now seem to have understood but still, sometimes, I feel some gap between us....

 

For me nothing is so holy that you can’t chop it down with jokes. Not even the Pope...lol.. In Italy we have a long history of irreverent, iconoclastic, humoristic literature....

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I read this extract yesterday that made think about all of this;

 

The moral subject is transformed into a humorist when people begins to understand suffering as necessarily derived from finitude, as something essential to the human condition” .......(Jorge Portilla).

 

In short: faced with reality you must laugh or get drunk trying....lol...

Guess my country has been on the stage for so long and seen so much that a propensity to be light in presence of adversity might have been encoded in his Dna...

 

Did you ever have the sensation to be funny only for yourself? O, worst, only to your dog?....lol...



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  • mousenphonic said on Mar 02, 2007....
    That makes sense. Your heading that is. My husband has a habit of trying to push me over the edge by teasing  and torturing my soul!! If a day passes without me wanting to strangle him for it, we either didn't see each other or it was an abnormally good day that will lead to an unexplainable fight the next day. I never got him, now I do. He realy loves me!!!! Hooray, thanx ginger. :D
  • allaroundgirl said on Mar 02, 2007....
    ALL THE TIME!! Just last night I was
  • lioneljay said on Mar 02, 2007....
    I'm with you completely on this one, GS. My humor is dry and cynical and it does not always go over well at home. I find that my taste in movies, where I like black humor (Fargo, for example, and Secretary) is another area where there is a bad mismatch. Sometimes it causes hard-to-unravel problems and misunderstandings.
  • gingersoul said on Mar 02, 2007....

    Mouse......oh, poor soul! :-)

    Believe me, i can bet anything you want that your husband is simply madly in love with you!....:-)

    He might feel so comfortable with you to think you will not get offended because you know him and you love him the way he is.......he doesn't see it as way to put you down but a way to find a common ground........it would be nice for you to go along with his humor one day and sees how it goee..

    you might even found it so funny to never stop teasing him...

    now.....that would be an upgrade to become complices in love crimes..{{hugs}}

  • MissMimi said on Mar 02, 2007....

    GS, you were not married to the most humorless man in the world. I sometimes feel like I am. He doesn't get my sense of humor, never has. There are very few things in life that I can't find something funny about.


     I love to tease. It's so much a part of my nature, and B, bless his heart, is often left scratching his head in confusion.


    Yes, I tease mercilessly the people I love.  Ask MimiJr.  Ask my friends.  I tease them, and they are encouraged it give it right back to me.   

  • botoni said on Mar 02, 2007....
    Those of us who have a sense of humor have to stick together.  Those with out a sense of humor......we really ought to give them some of ours cause we ve likely got to much. 
    Tease as much as you love.  Just be sure that the teasing isnt aimed at hurting.  There is a difference!
    My humor and my teasing are warped ..... sometimes beyond recognition.  An interesting thing....my youngest daughter seems to have inherited it.  We play off each other and sometimes it gets right weird.  If she goes to visit her mother after spending a day with me.  My former wife always knows where our daughter has been just because her (our) humor is more prevelant when we ve used it.  It s a bit like being caught with egg on your face........
  • secretlife said on Mar 02, 2007....
    i will tell you straight faced that one of my husband's best qualities is his ability to make me laugh.  But he thinks that i've got no sense of humor at all....NONE!
     
    when i started to chat, one of the things that used to crack me up was when men would say...'i love your sense of humor'....and i'd be thinking, sense of humor?  but i don't have one....
     
    well guess what?  turns out i do, but my husband doesn't get it!  LOL...who'd a guessed?
     
    I love to tease.  I do it to those closest to me, but i LOVE to tease.
    and i totally agree....if we don't laugh, we're sunk!
     
    I have a post i've been meaning to get up that's been sitting here on my pc since last night on a very similar type of topic...we must be on the same wavelength again...
  • lioneljay said on Mar 02, 2007....
    That reminds me, SL. I have a post I've been meaning to get up as well.
  • silverwhisper said on Mar 02, 2007....
    why, my loved ones all appreciate the smell of fresh trout! :D

    ed
  • gingersoul said on Mar 02, 2007....

    LJ.....Fargo and Secretary are great movies! Dont let anybody say the opposite!...We can figth them with our sharp jokes!...LOL..

    You know, i used to divide my movies in "The ones i can watch wiyh my husband" and ....the rest, basically the ones i liked....

    In his category you could find mostly war and action movies ....the only movie i watched with him i almost liked has been The Matrix....i repeat......almost....

    I have to tell you this: one day i dragged him to watch "Crouching tiger and hidden dragons"....well...as soon as the movie started and he realized it was in Chinese with the subtitles in English..(i tricked him, i admit it ) in the silence of the theater you heard only him saying: "No, the subtitles no!"...i started to laugh myhead off...he eventually liked it  but alas it was mostly an action movie......lol..

    Naturally he didnt see Fargo and Secretary..:-)...

    Mimi......oh, good for  you....teasing is good, teasing is healthy, teasing is love.........Woowooo...we can start a club..."The Teasers"....lol....  

  • beyondtheveil said on Mar 02, 2007....
    ginger- Although neither my wife or I enjoy "unmerciful" teasing, we have both been laughing at ourselves, and each other since we've known one another.
     
    We both enjoy all types of humor, and my wife especially, thinks humor is what makes the world function. We would both do ok in Italy.
     
    Her entire side of the family are well know as a large and happy group of wise asses.
  • gingersoul said on Mar 02, 2007....

    Bot...you are so right....will you be in my club then?...lol..

    My daughter - unfortunately - finds my teasing not of her like sometimes..... she is really funny though and she makes me laugh alot but i can sense my humor sometimes comes out too wicked for her.......she might tell me "Oh, mom, that wasn't nice to say" and probably i was just commenting about nothing that outrageous...but i understand she is a teen and very touchy and hormonal so i am learning to watch my jokes....:-)

    Secret......why...the telepathy still surprises you?....LOL...

    You have a great sense of humor......you simply crack me up....when you team up with Mobil is pure belly ache sometimes....:-)

    LJ.......  Tu quoque Brute? Even you Brutus ( Caesar) ...LOL....blog talking...

    SW.......why i dont have any problem in believing you?........LOL....

  • MissMimi said on Mar 02, 2007....
    That's funny beyond... My side of the family is a wise and happy group of large asses. ;)
  • gingersoul said on Mar 02, 2007....

    Beyond......lucky you and your wife....seriously.....

    And yes...i have a sense you would do more than ok in my country....if they ever let you in...LOL.

  • lioneljay said on Mar 02, 2007....
    Ginger, that's exactly the way it works here. I divide movies into the good ones and the ones that she will watch. While it's not strictly true, sometimes I think that she can't handle any movies that are less syrupy than The Sound of Music. If I were to describe her reaction following the end of Secretary, people would think me an abusive husband.
  • VICARIOUS said on Mar 02, 2007....
    I agree. The way Dr. Wayne Dyer puts it, "No one beats a dead horse".
     
    Paraphrased; we only pick on and pay attention to those that intrigue us.
     
    Your hubby was insecure in the things you chided about. His loss.
     
    Yes, I've felt that people don't get my humor, unforunately I was standing on a stage in a comedy club. I could go into why I bombed but the truth isn't severe.
     
    I'm funny damit. 
  • gingersoul said on Mar 02, 2007....

    LJ.......my ex would have taught i was instigating him to divorce if i would have only suggested him to watch that movie....lol.....

    oh, the things we have to accept in the name of love....

    Vic....thank you....:-).....and just my point...if i dont like you why should i waste my time teasing you?  You would have my indifference then. And if i dont like you you should prefer being teased by me that being hated .......

    I prefer to be teased......lol...

    Ouch.....that flop must have burned...you have to write about it....come on......laughing at ourself is the key to overcome any traumas...lol...

  • lioneljay said on Mar 02, 2007....
    GS, I nearly needed a lawyer as it was after we finished watching Secretary. You should see the looks I get when I suggest watching it again. :devil:
  • gingersoul said on Mar 02, 2007....

    LJ.... oh...poor wife of yours ....lol......bet you promised her of never, ever asked her to watch similar movies, don't you?....:-)

    But  i have always been the one to have "strange" taste in matter of movies...i remember my family and some of my friends used to roll their eyes when i would say what movie i was going to watch: anything wird and with subtitles was a feast for me....from forgotten East European directors, Ingmar Bergamn, Kurosawa, to Russian documentaries, Finnish movies with dialogue, New Zealand unknown ones......lol....you name it...

  • mobil said on Mar 02, 2007....
    I get into trouble all the time with teasing, I love to tease children, little ones
    especially. Teens lose their sense of humor for awhile.
     
    I get into the biggest trouble teasing, joking in writing. I brought back together
    our large spread out family by collecting emails and writing to them as a
    group. It's been great really.
     
    BUT, I make jokes in writing, and I write as I talk, so you can't put that little
    twist in your voice to let you know it's a fucking joke, know what I mean?
     
    Well, there were more than a few hostilities about it. Most get it, just a few
    don't. Fuck them haha, I am not giving up my sense of humor to please
    people who don't get it........LOL   .........great post Ginger
  • LadyGamer said on Mar 02, 2007....

    I tease affectionately. I appreciate someone who can make me smile when my heart is breaking.

     

    I couldn't interact with someone so dried up and humorless that this would offend them.

  • mom said on Mar 02, 2007....
    I come from a long line of teasers.  I am notorious for it, but if I like you I will tease you if I don't I won't even talk to you.  My husband said he married me for my sense of humor and crass ways.  He has even gotten funnier than he was when we were first married.  My kids are worse than I am.  We all do it because we laugh and when we laugh we are happy. :)   I am cynical about a lot of things, but sometimes the dumbest things will make me laugh and yes I do tease the animals but not in a cruel way.  I also tease myself but sometimes I get fed up with me.
  • CreativeWoman said on Mar 02, 2007....
    I like to tease.  I'm pretty good at making plays on words. I will admit though that I am not always as funny as I think I am.  I am pretty quiet, but I can throw out the occasional zinger.

    Lionel, I have seen Fargo several times.  :-)

    CW


  • sweetsoul said on Mar 02, 2007....
    ok I'll admit to loving Secretary but not getting Fargo...or Muriel's Wedding if anyone is a fan of it too.
     
    Laughter...I love to laugh...too much of my life requires me to be serious...I need/use laughter to balance it. I had the pleause once of coming back from holiday and having a co-worker comment 'I missed your laughter.'
     
    I will admit to love teasing...harmless teasing of course. I did however make it clear that I did not appreciate the use of 'dorkess' as a teasing term of endearment. :)
  • mom said on Mar 03, 2007....
    Dorkess- that is a hoot.  Do you know that 'Dork" means whale penis?  LOL
  • skald said on Mar 03, 2007....
    I don't exactly tell jokes but sometimes something funny comes in my mind and I let it go when I feel like it. My co workers who were older than me would not quite know how to take it but we laughed. I am laughing all the time. Guess that is in my temperament.
    Mom One is always learning new words. dork i´ve seen it did not know what it meant. lol

  • sweetsoul said on Mar 03, 2007....

    mom...sure glad I put a stop to that!

    No I didn't know...doing some research on Wikipedia:

    Dork is a term of abuse favored by American youngsters, designating the target as quirky, awkward, eccentric, socially inept or simply of lower status. Similar epithets include nerd and geek. Originally a vulgar term for "penis," the word is often used without any awareness of this sense, as evidenced by its use in the syndicated family cartoon strips Garfield for February 10, 2007 and Big Nate (in the form "dorkus") for January 13, 2007.

    The term implies stupidity perhaps less often than it formerly did, and paradoxically can imply an unadmirable (bookish, academic) intelligence, much as "nerd" and "geek" do.

    "Dork" is a common slang personal name for the Poser 3 & 4 posable man CGI figure.

    Etymology

    It is popularly asserted that the term originated as whalers' occupational slang for the penis of a whale, and by transfer became an anatomical insult, undergoing subsequent generalization and amelioration to its present meaning. The current state of evidence suggests that this is a case of folk etymology[1], as no solid documentation has been advanced for the use of the term in this context. One of the earliest documented uses of the word "dork" is a 1961 publication (referencing 1953), in which the meaning is clearly penis, but with no particular reference to whales[2]. Instead, the term may be merely a minced oath variant of "dick", the vulgar term for a human penis. Nonetheless, the origin of the whale-reference and its widespread credit remain unexplained, and the claimed derivation is best treated as unconfirmed.

  • lioneljay said on Mar 03, 2007....
    [slight hijack] GS, you might like to take a look at one of my favorite sources for movies: Facets Multimedia in Chicago. They even have a dvd rental program like Netflix but with all the foreign and independent films ever made. [/slight hijack]
  • gingersoul said on Mar 03, 2007....

    Mobil......oh, i know this teasing side of yours......lol......lovely.....it was very nice of you to glue together again your family....you have a big heart...

    teens and sense of humor? These words dont go toegether in the same sentence.......my daughter is mastering the "rolling eyes" tecnique these days when i joke...*sigh* .....:-). You are right...i have some problem too in trasferring my humor on words sometimes...i have to use a LOT of emoticons...so i dont offende anybody...lol...

    LG.......same here....i am almost umcomfortable when i can't tease as i like....problem is that my carefree teasing can be mistaken sometimes as approachability by men.......

    Mom....oh, i can see you and your big family laughing all together......its great.....when i was a kid my family had never had this bond ....only later on when my brother married this really funny girl who luckily is still my SIL and my sister went back home we finally started to have nice long family gathering filled with jokes, laughter, teasing jokes.......what we never had growing up... its good for your kids to grow up sorrounded my laughter.....:-)

    CW.......ok, so you will be our quiet funny girl during our Soulcast annual meeting...but i will want to seat close to you because the quiet ones can be the most funny sometimes...:-)

    SSoul....wow...that's a lot of information about dorks......lol...thank you...how did we end up talking about dorkness? .....but i get your point....:-).......

    like you, i have been told that my laugh was missed.....

    i even got a poem written about it....

    I like the sound of my laughter........there is a friend of mine instead who laughs like she doesn't want to  ..you know.......with that compressed , interrupted, almost shameful way ..she doesn't burst out but  keeps her laughter like at leash......she said she doesn like the sound of it.....isn't really sad?

    Bet she never peed laughing....like i did ... many times....lol...

    Skald......that's sweet....laughing all the time is good for our heart........:-)

    LJ........lol.......are you hijacking because all this dorkness flying around?....

    Thank you so much ....i copied this link too in my Favorites ..i have already several sites about cinematography.....but this one is really nice....

    OK, now ...back to Dorkville....LOL..

  • CreativeWoman said on Mar 03, 2007....
    ginger,
    The seating arrangement is duly noted.  lol

    CW
  • mom said on Mar 03, 2007....
    Thanks Ginger,
    I think you are right, it is always somethat I have taken for granted, but my kids brag to their friends about how much fun we have.  I am glad you that experience that kind of fun now. :)
  • moonriver said on Mar 04, 2007....
    ginger -- can i therefore challenge you to a teasing contest? i'm the champion in my family. i know you're the sc champion, and you'll probably beat me hands down, but no harm in trying...lol.

  • gingersoul said on Mar 04, 2007....

    CW.....great....now i cant wait...:-)

    Mom....yes, its a great gift you are giving to your kids...you are a loving mother and this laughter will remain in their ears for the rest of their life..{{hugs}}

    Moon.....ok, bring it on.....LOL...

    you set the time and the topic... uhmm, my place or yours?....hands down, mister.......i was talking about which blog ...lol...gotcha already...oh, it would be an epic contest...you have the Confucius lightness on your side though ....but i accept the challenge...... {hugs}

  • moonriver said on Mar 04, 2007....
    ginger -- i prefer the dusk, creature of the dark that i am. 6 pm tomorrow, my time zone. (that way, you'd be groggy with sleep, hahaha.) your choice of piazza and weaponry. i prefer hand-to-hand combat -- mom's rules apply.

  • gingersoul said on Mar 05, 2007....

    Moon...i dont care about the hours of the day as long is going to be in THIS century...lol.....

    plus, with your erratic changes of personalities i might end up talking to the werewolf while in reality is the sweet cuddling boy who is answering to me while simultaneously emailing under the shape of the sharp editor...

    uhmmm...wonder which personality would wash my car....dont let the werewolf wax it it though.......he is going to scratch it with his long nails.....please, double portion of lasagna for this.....lol.....

    oh, man...dont ever make up your mind...this is way to funny..LOL....

  • moonriver said on Mar 06, 2007....
    ok, duel's off, ginger, you win. i guess i need more practice with my weaponry. can i have the double slice lasagna now please? i'm starved...lol

  • gingersoul said on Mar 06, 2007....

    Moon.....you are giving up so easily???? I am shocked.......are you ok? or is the werewolf in you talking?....:-)

    But..oh well...where is a teaser when you need one?

    Lasagna is ready, wimpy......come to get it.....lol...

  • moonriver said on Mar 06, 2007....
    ginger -- today i'm a wimpy werewolf. the price for heavenly lasagna...lol. but tomorrow's another day... just you wait.

  • gingersoul said on Mar 06, 2007....
    Moon....good, that's more you.....{{hugs}}
  • Ladyfly said on Mar 06, 2007....
    I used to tease my ex-husband about everything. I thought the things I teased him about made him cute and it was totally a sign of love. He saw it as a way of me refusing to support him in life. *HE* had no sense of humor. And you just have to have humor in all things in order to survive I think. It's essential!!
  • gingersoul said on Mar 06, 2007....

    Ladyfly....nice to meet you and thank for dropping by......:-)

    you are still another confirm to my theory.......love is a lot easier with humor and sharing the same humor with our SO....everything seems so much more easier to handle....

    Join the club.....let's forget our weird humorless ex husbands.......lol....

  • D6fer said on Mar 07, 2007....
    ginger....we would have some fun sparring with humor I'm sure...I love that...my wife and I do it all the time...we often think people would think we are sick, with our weird sense of humor...we ridicule each other constantly.
  • gingersoul said on Mar 08, 2007....

    D6......i swear...my next man HAS to have my same humor.....lol....the last boyfriend was almost there but then, alas, he was lacking in the sex chemistry department...and that is no funny business....

    You are very lucky to laugh so much with your wife.......;-)

  • D6fer said on Mar 08, 2007....
    ooooh....bummer....bad sex chem....gotta watch where ya put that bunsen burner! ;p
  • hotaka said on Mar 11, 2007....

    I know my girlfriend can be sensative about herself so I refrain from teasing her about her image. She's not the type I feel inclined to tease anyway. I like laughing with her, not at her expense. But other people! Oh, there are some that totally fuel my desire to tease. But I like them. I alwasy say that if I tease someone it's because I like them.

    Isn't that right, PastaPanties?

  • gingersoul said on Mar 11, 2007....

    D6........you said it right....lol......my burner ain't going to be lit without a laugh ...promise you...:-0

    Hotcake.....you are so right, little pig...lol...

    I understand that........and if your fiance' is touchy about some issue its sweet of you refraining from teasing her to much....i used to do the same with my ex...i mean ... the words "love handles" used to disappear from my vocabulary during his so called "beaver times" (he used to gain some pounds in the winter)....

    PastaPanties is so cute...LOL......too cute, HottiePastry ....{hug}

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