• silverwhisper said on Mar 02, 2007....

  no, i do not believe in an afterlife. therefore, since i have only a limited time here, i see it as my mission to enjoy what i can and do what little good i can here and now.
  
  ed

• secretlife said on Mar 02, 2007....

  i wish i knew for sure FD. 
  my heart tells me that there is something after this life.
   
  believing this gives me hope that everything we endure here isn't for nothing, and that i'll one day see and be with the people i've loved and lost....that it's not over.

• beyondtheveil said on Mar 02, 2007....

  FD- I have no faith in the afterlife, only hope. I do feel that if there is no afterlife, there was no reason for me or anyone else to have ever existed in the first place.

• kelly said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Nope, no afterlife.  I like Jim Morrison's take on it.  "No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn."  

• anonymous said on Mar 03, 2007....

  People who have near death experiences say they see a tunnel and a bright light and people are waiting at the end, sounds kinda like the birthing process. Maybe the evil souls who report a horrible experience are the still births and miscarrages. When we don't get it right we come back to try again, those who are destined to hell probly live it right here, lots of damnation horror right here.

• Rockerchic said on Mar 03, 2007....

  FD:  like you, I believe in a before-, during-, and after life.  I consider myself very spiritual and the meanings of each life stage are spoke about in terms of the spirit. 
  
  I had an NDE years ago that literally forced me to believe in this concept because I was shown the transition.  It is very hard for me to be concise about this because of all the events that took place during this enlightenment but, without a doubt, I know there is life after death, just like you might know there is a million dollars out there somewhere!
  
  The experience affected me to the point that I was never again the person I was before.  It was absolutely life changing and, like ed said, I have a limited time to do things here.  But I also think that what I do here is my training for the next life.  And, to expand on that slightly, the reason I am here in the first place is by my choice.  Everything that I've experienced I knew was going to happen before I arrived.  A few of my blogs talk about finding faith again and the feeling of home and this is exactly what it feels like to me.
  
  Ok, I've rattled too long.  But I could take about this all day!
  

• The_Ranting_Logician said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Ok I could ramble all day so i'll put it fairly shortly. The theory that I have come up with stems deeply from dejavu. Essentially I feel that we are all reliving our life, over and over and over again. Moments of Dejavu are those where events from one of your past "playthroughs" of your life add up perfectly. Where every single event falls into place to form a quick memory of one of your past lives...weird I know.
   
  Personally I hope there is some kind of heaven or hell. I feel like if I'm reincarnated as a different person, it's as good as being dead, because you are who you are. Don't give me the "your soul lives on bullshit." You are who you are because of upbringing and experience. Being in a different body leading a different life is not you living on. I hope theres a heaven or hell because honestly, I would rather be strewn naked in a feild with hail raining down on me while I am enternally quartered and devoured by Cerberus (reference is from Dantes Inferno for those who haven't read it) than to just sit in the ground never thinking again.
   
  Anyway your blog seems pretty neat and I'm gonna keep reading...or I'll try to anyway.

• FaithfulDisciple said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Thank you RC and TRLogician I enjoy reading your rants.  Frankly, they were more extensive and informative than my original blog.
  
  Kelly, BTV, Ed:  If there was no afterlife, could that also mean the non-existent theory of souls.  Doesn't man have a spiritual dimension?  Is is correct to assume that those who hold the concept of no afterlife do not also subscribe to the presence of a soul in every person?
  

• mobil said on Mar 03, 2007....

  It's impossible to explain, or I should say make others see. You have to
  experience finding the Lord for yourself. Once you've done that.
   
  It's like solving a problem, one that earlier had no solution. It's often easy for
  young people to enjoy life without a narrow path. Some behave to a point
  because it's how they were taught. In the absence  of God, they make many
  of their own rules, it's kinda fun that way.
   
  Some think it weak minded to believe in an after life or in God. They have not
  been tested. We are weak, each of us as fragile as a rose pedal. Separating
  the wheat from the chafe takes more beating for some.
   
  I ramble FD, forgive me please. It's difficult to wrap this subject in a neat
  package so others can understand. We must first open our hearts and minds
  before we can be born again.
   
  Without God there is no hope, without hope there is no before, now or after.
  There is no logical explanation, so the logical move along wanting logical.
   
  You can't make the super natural logical, yet you can look through the
  Hubble Telescope and see super natural. Be in awe of it and then deny it
  exists.
   
  I am haha, rambling again FD, I am sorry, surely within my discourse above
  there is some sense of rational, maybe not haha.
   
  I no longer need it explained to me, I know you do not either. We all find our
  way in life, it's the way God intended. I have not always had faith, am not
  everyday a good person. I'm working on it....thank you and God Bless

• beyondtheveil said on Mar 03, 2007....

  FD- I didn't say I have no belief in it, but rather do not know, which translates to hope. No one knows with certainty, but believe with certainty. The afterlife and God are both unknowable from peoples own scriptures.
   
  I believe many people to be spiritual and I have been working on this for decades now, but no matter how advanced I become in spirituality, there is no way to come to know the unknowable with certainty.
   
  Does that explain it better?

• FaithfulDisciple said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Thanks Mobil for putting it right on the dot.  Faith in God is interrelated to the afterlife.  Does it follow then that those who don't subscribe to the existence of God also don't subscribe to the afterlife possibility?
  
  IMHA (In My Honest Assessment) people such as Rockerchic who have actual NDE encounters can attest to the existence of a higher spiritual being during their brief encounter with death.
  
  Those who have no affinity for the existence of God and have undergone NDE always come back with the same reaction, their lives and purpose are changed for the better after their return from the NDE incident. 
  
  The purpose of this blog was to explore to the various personal concepts of afterlife in relation to the unexplainable human psychic experiences.
  
  Your comments/rants are always refreshing and enlightening, God bless.
  

• FaithfulDisciple said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Well said BTV.  I think the spiritual is better understood with our soul.  When we use the physical attributes such as our human intellect to grasp spiritual concepts such as God and afterlife, it is difficult to define these in absolute physical terms, things that don't have a physical form or physical dimension.  As the only certain way we can know about God and afterlife is to experience both in our own spiritual faculties.  I hope I've made it much clearer.  But I do get your point already.

• The_Ranting_Logician said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Thank you for all the kind words and subscribing to my blog. lol As a thank you I posted one of my more popular movie reviews. My reviews tend to be a bit less scatterbrained than my rants haha. Hope you like it. I have quite a few reviews in my archives and if you like this one I can post more.

• mobil said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Forgive me FD, but I would use an analogy to describe how a spiritual
  reckoning might come about, it's not the best way to do it I am afraid, but
  I think it is visual.
   
  If you look at a sexual orgasm, one must turn him/her self free, let go of the
  controls as it were, to experience it.
   
  This is the same way we experience God, we have to relinquish control.
  The control of mind and body. Allow God to enter in this way, it sounds
  crazy I know, but it's not.
   
  We go looking and searching and it's within us. Just once, turn yourself
  loose with spiritual enlightenment in mind. It is like an orgasm of sorts, an
  uplifting spiritual awareness. A wholeness, serenity beyond amazing.
   
  Sorry Father, I know this is an awful analogy, but I think you would agree
  there is something in the letting ourselves go to what I am saying about
  finding, accepting God?

• kelly said on Mar 03, 2007....

  No, I'd have to say there is no literal soul.  We have this marvelous ability to think abstractly, but when the lights go out the thinking stops and that's it.
  
  
  I thinkt that a large part of religion and belief in god is driven out of the fear of this.  It's much more comforting to think that one will somehow "go on" after death so we invent these self-deceptions to make us feel better.

• Mamie said on Mar 03, 2007....

  I soooo believe in the afterlife...just like you said, the pre- the now and the after...I have many, many reasons to believe. and I grew into a knowing vs. just a random faith in something that I could not see. That is why I am looking at my current situation, hoping to see what lesson I opted for and then choosing to learn it so I can move on. Does that make sense?

  thanks to all who commented, I really enjoyed it! Mamie

• silverwhisper said on Mar 03, 2007....

  FD: i believe we have a soul, which represents our essence. but i don't believe it's immortal.
  
  ed

• mobil said on Mar 03, 2007....

  FD; If I didn't believe in God, in those things that Christ taught. I would

  be a very, very, very bad man. There would be no reason to be any

  other way. Man's laws would be annoying, otherwise I'd take what I

  want. Hurting others would amount to no more than stepping on a bug.

  I would kill you for your wallet, your woman or the pleasure to watch you

  die.

  There is nothing, nothing in this world that I need fear or respect. It is

  knowing God that creates the effort to do good, to uplift society. Take God

  from me and I will have blood on my teeth.

• FaithfulDisciple said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Kelly:  On the contrary, the thought of the possibility of an afterlife makes one stop to think about what to do with this present life.  It would be easy to live this life according to one's wishes and desires as Mobil has pointed out without a care in the world if one is certain for sure that there is no transition to the next life to account for one's wrongdoings and misdeeds.
  
  Sometimes, the pain and tragedies we experience in this life makes one think that we were meant to be born here to suffer in this life without any end purpose at all.   If that would be the case, then the easiest way out of our miseries would be suicide, to end it all at once.
  
  But then the thought of an afterlife would probably change one's concept of this life by trying to learn our mistakes here so we can transcend to a higher level in the afterlife.
  
  Mobil:  The Resurrection and Ascension of Jesus into heaven has proven to Christians once and for all that there is really an afterlife.  No amount of theological or philosophical discussion can convince anyone who lacks the natural faith bestowed by God to His faithful in the promise of an eternal afterlife to be shared in His great Kingdom.
  
  
  

• FaithfulDisciple said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Nice to see you back again Mamie, you are missed so dearly.  My concept of being born into this world is rather one of being put to the test.  Why we were thrust into this world, only God knows the reason for sure.  Could it be because, He wanted us to experience our own lessons and to grow from our own experiences?
  
  I see therefore that our life in its before, present and afterlife is a stage of purification and gradual evolution.  As we learn certain lessons in each stage, we are purified and elevated onto the next stage until we attain a state of perfection acceptable to God and worthy to enter into His glorious Kingdom where all good and perfect souls enjoy His presence.
  

• FaithfulDisciple said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Ed, being mortals as we are limit our human capacity to define immortality.  For some, experience is the best teacher and till man himself experience immortality, he will just have to rely on his inner faith on the viability of immortality in the afterlife.

• FaithfulDisciple said on Mar 03, 2007....

  Mobil, the gift of faith and your love for God is quite admirable and at the same time an encouragement to those who lack it.  I have always subscribed to the concept that natural faith is a God given gift, that even if one doesn't search for it, God will give it to those who voluntarily wishes to know Him by sincerely opening their hearts and mind to His Words.
  

• kelly said on Mar 04, 2007....

  "the thought of the possibility of an afterlife makes one stop to think about what to do with this present life.  It would be easy to live this life according to one's wishes and desires as Mobil has pointed out without a care in the world if one is certain for sure that there is no transition to the next life to account for one's wrongdoings and misdeeds."
  
  
  Actually, we're in agreement here.  I'm fine with religions for the most part because they keep people who have no natural empathy for others in check.  People like Mobil, apparently.  I didn't realize that at heart Mobil was a sociopath, but it's good to know.

• silverwhisper said on Mar 04, 2007....

  FD: i suppose we'll find out. :>
  
  kelly: that isn't a very unusual position, actually.
  
  ed

• mobil said on Mar 04, 2007....

  Kelly; what you don't know, is that without God, we are all sociopaths.
  Even you Kelly.
   
  Have you ever experienced the complete and total absence of hope Kelly?
  It is a place under the bottom of the barrel. You will find God there, or you
  will find nothing.
   
  There is no natural empathy Kelly, why do you think when left to their own
  devices entire nations, cultures brutalize each other?
   
  Rome, Japan, Germany, you make me laugh with this thought of there being
  a natural empathy in humans.
   
  The natural empathy you feel is because, believe it or not, you have been
  raised while riding on the coattails of Christianity and at the same time
  denouncing it. Kind of funny huh?
   
  Read what I wrote about torture today........might change your mind about
  natural empathy.
   

• kelly said on Mar 04, 2007....

  silver: I'm sure it isn't.  Are all my positions supposed to be unusual?
  
  
  It is enlightening to know that someone like Mobil is only motivated to be decent as long as he thinks he is being watched and it's quite fascinating to hear such an open admission to terrible behavior in the absence of a belief in god.  It's a very good lesson.
  
  
  It's also kind of amusing that me, an atheist, would never think to do those things despite my "lack of faith."

• mobil said on Mar 04, 2007....

  Thank you ! an enlightening of any sort is good. I am glad to have

  opened your eyes ever so slightly.

• silverwhisper said on Mar 04, 2007....

  kelly: i was not referring to your position. spend enough time talking w/ some christians and you'll eventually encounter the notion that if not for faith we would all be horribly, horribly depraved creatures, capable of the vilest of deeds.
  
  ed

• kelly said on Mar 04, 2007....

  Ah.  And that's differerent from the way things are now in what way again?  :-)

• kelly said on Mar 04, 2007....

  Mobil, the fact that many or most people do not have real empathy does not mean that all people do not have it.
  
  
  You're still going to have to explain how it is I'm not a sociopath and yet I'm an atheist.  I think you're using the word incorrectly.

• silverwhisper said on Mar 05, 2007....

  kelly: don't make me trout-smack you... :p
  
  ed

• mobil said on Mar 05, 2007....

  Kelly: At times I would rather piss in the wind than argue religion or politics
  with you, but, I'll take a crack at it.
   
  Yes, you are an atheist, you proclaim this. My point is, that you were not
  brought up in an atheist culture. Like it or not, your ancestors had religion.
   
  The tenets of this were reinforced in you throughout your life. Whether
  through your parents or just growing up in a Christian society.
   
  What you call natural empathy, isn't natural at all, it was instilled in you, this
  empathy grew in you because of this Christian or religious culture you
  were bathed in throughout your life.
   
  My point is this; In the absence of God and it has nothing to do with being
  watched. There is no reason to behave. Why? What is the point? To be
  nice?
   
  I don't think I would be nice, I don't think allot of people would be nice. When
  a culture becomes crude, the human condition changes. It's a very broad
  concept Kelly. Not easy to grasp, you have to look at history.
   
  In looking at history and cultures there will be all sorts of models. I think there
  is something to learn from looking at just the mob concept Kelly. Even when
  people have religion and laws and decent up bringing. This mob mentality often
  takes over the human psyche.
   
  If you were born in the South in the 1700's and raised there, chances are
  pretty high that you would have thought slavery to be ok. If you were
  born in Rome in 100 BC. Slavery would have most likely have seemed ok to
  you as well.
   
  Had you been born in 1760 to Blackfoot Indian parents, you would have
  worshiped the sun, danced with the scalps of neighboring tribes and if you
  had been born a young man, you would have tortured other people for the
  pleasure of it.
   
  Had you been born earlier in what is now Mexico or South American human
  sacrifice would have been acceptable to you. My point is; Empathy is
  not natural. Perhaps I am using the word sociopath in the wrong way. I know
  me, I would be a sociopath in today's society with the absence of God, but
  only if born and raised without God as a part of my culture.
   
  You Kelly, would probably be as bull headed as me, but no, I don't know
  what exactly you would be doing. Arguing with me perhaps, until I tired of
  it and hit you over the head with something........haha......Thank you Kelly

• FaithfulDisciple said on Mar 05, 2007....

  I think I'm beginning to enjoy the discussion on the subtopics of natural empathy and sociopaths.  Maybe Mobil can make it a post from where a bigger and more extensive discussion can pursue.  As it is, that's fine with me here considering that the topic of behaving or "restraining" oneself in this life is related into the prospects of an afterlife.   

• mobil said on Mar 05, 2007....

  Sorry to pull this off the subject of afterlife FD. I doubt that Kelly and I could
  agree on anything religious or political.
   
  Tough subjects to argue, minds made up aren't easily changed....thanks FD

• Ladyfly said on Mar 05, 2007....

  I believe there is life after death. I believe that and it scares me.

• kelly said on Mar 05, 2007....

  Mobil is off base.  Look, people that walk around talking about their invisible friends are called crazy.  But get enough of them to do it and you call it a religion.
  
  
  You don't need a religion or a god to have people co-operate in society.  Forget empathy.  Most people want to avoid pain and good way to do that is to cooperate rather than go at it tooth and nail.
  
  
  By the way, my mind is easily changed.  Prove there's a god and I'll change my mind.  And you should know I'm not trying to change your mind.  I'm actually content as long as the religious types stay off my back.  I may never be as moral as a god-fearing person, but then why would I want to lower my standards?

• kelly said on Mar 05, 2007....

  Actually, just nevermind.  This is a waste of everybody's time.

• mobil said on Mar 06, 2007....

  Agreed

• truthsayer said on Mar 10, 2007....

  Many people have confused God, with religion, and I don't mean with a capital "R".  God is not religion.  Religion is a human construct.  I hate the wikipedia because it is so unreliable, but I know many in here use it.  It lists religion as leading to disambiguity. 
   
  At best, the Bible says that perfect religion is taking care of widows, orphans, visiting prisoners, taking care of the poor, etc.  Other than that it is an agreed upon system, by a group of individuals, for the purposes of disambiguity.  One's religion must not be placed above their walk with Jesus either.  Or, we could end up like the Pharisees.
   
  Many unbelievers are ticked off at some Christian, or group of Christians because of some judgement they have made about them.  Let's face it, human beings do tend to be very judgemental.  What unbelievers do not understand, is that believers are not here to judge them.  They have the same opportunity that we have.  They are allowed to judge themselves, so that God does not have to.  If they refuse to judge themselves, God will judge them. 
   
  Believers are however, called to make right judgements about each other.  As you know, there are many false Christians, and false converts, but even more Christians that suffer with besetting sins.  Often, unbelievers judge all of us, by those Christians that are still struggling in their walk.  We all work out our salvation with fear and trembling.  I am not sure that unbelievers like that part either...for that matter, I am not sure some Christians like that part ; )
   
  Some unbelievers are ticked off at God, because He is Perfect, and they are not, but tell themselves that they are "fine", and expend great amounts of energy and words, convincing themselves and others that they are really FINE!  
   
  So, here we are FaithfulDisciple and others...doing our best to be One Voice in the wilderness, and be His Body for them, and His Bride for Him.  We do the best we can, and yet, we must do better. 
   
  Yes, there is an afterlife.  We are all eternal.  Jesus is the lover of our souls.  He obviously loves the souls of some people, more than they love their own. 
   
  truthsayer
   
  P.S. FaithfulDisciple, please check out my blog, You Don't End At Your Skin.  I just posted it today.  Let me know what you think.  truth

• kelly said on Mar 11, 2007....

  "I hate the wikipedia because it is so unreliable, but I know many in here use it.  It lists religion as leading to disambiguity."
  
  
  It doesn't say that religion leads to disambiguity.  Actually, you landed on a disambiguation page that wikipedia uses to clarify which particular meaning of a word you meant.
  
  
  "Some unbelievers are ticked off at God"
  
  
  This would be the exact opposite of a tautology but I don't know the word for that.

• shiningstar said on Mar 11, 2007....

  I know that there is life after nour seeming demise.  I thjought jesus proved this by being seen after his death.  Is that not proof enough for those who say they believe in him??To me it could make no other sense.  One child born to just die in a few breaths,  another to be born with physical or mental birth defects,  one child growing up with every advantage another having none.  Only by becoming everything can we become one who understands it all because we have been it all.

• FaithfulDisciple said on Mar 13, 2007....

  For those with faith, it is easily acceptable to believe in the promise of an afterlife as was demonstrated by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, the first born from the dead.
  

• shiningstar said on Mar 13, 2007....

  Faith is one thing but logic and reason says that a teacher comes to teach and we learn from what he did and what he said and how he lived his life.  Jesus taught by example and I have faith that his example works. Jesus proved there was life after death because he appeared after his death.  Is that not proof enough??

• mormonblog2 said on May 18, 2007....

  Yes; see my post "Concept of God" on my blog: http://soulcast.com/mormonblog2
  my email: mormonblog@gmail.com
   

• shiningstar said on May 19, 2007....

  I have read studies where bodies were weighed before and after death.  Madam Blatabosky(can't spell it) wrote about the soul , it's purpose and where and what it is. The Soul weighs 13 ozs and sits in a cavity just left of the heart.  It lies there so it can record energy from heartbeats. It is  called a book because emotion is recorded. Every living creator has one for it is the memory held in repose for the Self's journeys. It and the Spirit(consciousness)  leave the body and go into infra-red to review the Life experiences. There it makes descisions as to what it needed to complete in order to raise up it's consciousness.  Actually there are many books written about the Soul and many teachings.  The Fireside Series by Ramtha is excellent.  That's what I know.  I am sure this will have it's usual attack from the religious who think of it differently.

• mormonblog2 said on May 19, 2007....

  YES; I will live again on this earth, after my death, if I live worthy of it during this mortal life.
  Christ & the Eternal Father In Heaven's work is to bring about the true JOY and eternal life(living with Christ & the Eternal Father for eternity); Christ created worlds without end; the true spirit of Christ is Love and forgiveness; when I am truly trying to live all of Christ's commandments, praying to my Eternal Father in Heaven, closing my prayers in the name of Jesus Christ, I have learned the truth of my great great grandmother SARAH STUDEVANT LEAVITT's statement "The fervent and effectual prayer of a righteous man (person) availeth much," saith the Lord.
  -----------
  Please read about the key 7 characteristics of the True Mormon Christ in "www.7cmm.org" or
  "www.mormonchrist.com".

• RioGrande said on Jul 27, 2007....

  I wish I could believe in the afterlife. I remember watching my Mom pass away before my eyes. My brother and I sat there in silence before he said "it makes you wonder what life is about". I had been thinking the exact same thing. I stared at my Mom but it wasn't her anymore. I kept wondering what it all meant and if I would ever see her again someday. As time has passed I have become fairly certain that I will not.

  I believe that as human beings we feel that there must be a grand purpose for us being here. Our time here is just a stepping stone to the afterlife. We can't accept the possibility that we're born, we live and then we die. It can't just end there, can it? I really hope I'm wrong but I think it does end there.

  You see, we're no different than any other creature that lives on this wonderful planet. We may be smarter, live longer and have faith in the afterlife but that doesn't mean we are more deserving of one.

  My Mom has been in many of my dreams over the last 2 years but in every one of them she is still alive. It's almost as if I'm trying to go back in time and warn her about her impending illness before it's too late. I wish I could...

• mormonblog2 said on Jul 28, 2007....

  Read this post: LightAndTruth - Joseph Smith, in my mormonblog2 blog: http://soulcast.com/mormonblog2 It will get you into the lds D&C where you can read all about the revelations given to Joseph Smith about life after death. It is all true. Most of my extended family & myself go to LDS temples and do temple work for ourselves, our ancestors and for others that have passed on without being able to do it for themselves. In fact I was just at the Provo temple yesterday doing work for a deceased brother in Christ. I did it believing that if this brother has gained enough knowledge in the Spirit World to accept Jesus Christ and to accept his temple endowment that I have done for him, that it is there for him. I haven't had the experience, but there are some people that I know have had someone come and visit from the spirit world. My brother has had our grand-father come and visit him. It is all true. Else why would we be continually going to the temple. And the church continually building more and more temples. It is my testimony that it is true, we just have to believe in Jesus Christ, and live like we believe - mormonblog2 LightAndTruth - Joseph Smith

• shiningstar said on Jul 28, 2007....

  Jesus lived his life as an example.  He wasnot the first to be resurrected.  He raised Lazarus from the dead and a little girl to prove that life never ends.  It was the eachings of Jehovah that claimed that life was just one lifetime.  Jesus came to prove that Jehovah lied.(as usual). It was and is still the lies of Jehovah that keep the people from elolving into being the same as Jesus and do the greater things that he had faith and knowledge enough to declare to be so.

• Nautica80 said on Sep 13, 2007....

  I believe there is some sort of existence beyond this one whether it be consciously or not, we all contain a certain amount of energy within us that is neither created nor destroyed but eternal. Now if I approach this subject without the concept of God I can still come to the same conclusion that there is the possibility of an after life. We are limited by our senses but as vast as the universe is I can only assume there are things that exist beyond the realm if our senses, even within our own earth, for all we know there are so many dimensions that overlap one another in a way were we just transition from one to the other after each cycle, it is only natural to assume this if every cycle in life can be illustrated it a circle diagram....I bet I sound crazy huh?
  Brandon
  I found this blog by accident so chances are I won't find it again. Email me if you all would like to continue this conversation....InvisiblePills@aol.com

• welljoe-lds said on Sep 13, 2007....

  Worlds Without End - Christ Created Worlds Without End LDS GUIDE TO THE SCRIPTURES see scriptures that testify of eternal life in these worlds http://www.soulcast.com/welljoe-lds/ http://www.soulcast.com/post/show/88423/Worlds-Without-End

• lfbno7 said on Feb 24, 2008....

  I believe there is an afterlife. I respect the work of Lisa Williams and John Edward, spirit mediums. I also respect the work of Raymond Moody and his followers, regarding near death experiences.

• george123 said on May 29, 2008....

  there is an afterlife many like myself and my wife have seen a loved one after they passed {at the time and to point out for the skeptics my wife only met my mom once before she passed }that will take away any one form saying it was mass hysteria brought on by grief. We both saw her spirit rise up from her physical body at the same time while at the funeral home. There have been other things I have experienced overthe yrs with others I will not go into now but this I can say YES there is an after life . Science has begun to study this and all those that have put the effort and energy into the study have come to the same conclusion there is an afterlife. I would like to add as far as I am concerned it has ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION!, The idea of religion as far as I am concerned evolved our time and has been responcible for most of the worlds problems ,one need only look at what we are dealing with today,a perfect example of how it can screw up our lifes and the danger it creates. Once you start to study this subject and do the research you will find the emperical evidence become clear. To all those that think that this life is all there is ,will see for themselves if not in this life then in the next, I really don't care if one wants to know or not , we all are going to know at some point.

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