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Wealth Isn't the Only Mark of Achievement


by Laura Rowley

Posted on Thursday, February 1, 2007, 3:00AM

Yahoo! Finance readers had plenty of opinions about my recent columns on educational achievement, the psychology of regret, getting the best deal on phone service, and more.

Educational Success: Beyond Money

You recently referenced the findings of the Chance-for-Success Index. I guess what peeves me about many articles in the same vein is the continuing discussion correlating money to achievement. This is just part of the equation and perhaps not the most important part. What seems to be lost is the basis for the wealth possessed. It's as if the money is what directly influences levels of achievement, when in reality it's more likely the attitude, behaviors, and values of those that have achieved success, and their conveyance of those same values to their progeny, that provide the drive to succeed. --Lyle Boyea

In the article regarding the Chance-for-Success Index, you wrote a sentence with which I disagree: "Families can get stuck in a vicious cycle: It takes money to give your child a superior education, and it takes a superior education for your child to make money." It doesn't take that much money to give a child a superior education. I taught my four-year-old son to read with a book that cost less than $20 ("How to Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons"). He entered our public school kindergarten reading on a second-grade level. I'm teaching him math with the Miquon series: around $15 for the teacher's guide and $6 for each of the six workbooks. Now, in first grade, he can multiply fractions with whole numbers, but he dislikes division (!). The grammar book I'm using cost just over $20 and the science experiment book cost less than $20, although the materials for the experiments will be an additional cost. I spend less than $100 annually and 30 minutes on weekdays educating him. Yes, there are other activities that cost time or money -- Little League sports, church choir, going to our university's art museum -- but I've certainly supported my point that a superior education is cheap and fulfilling for an educable child. --Sherrie Campbell

Work vs. Play: Managing the Tradeoff

That was a very interesting article on "The Psychology of Regret." About 12 years ago I was faced with a dilemma. A colleague had come up with four tickets to the U.S. Open practice round at Oakland Hills. The tickets were for that day only. I had a ton of work to do and really agonized over using them or not. At that point I "invented" the five-year rule for myself. It goes: "Five years from now, which choice will I wish I had made?" I chose the golf and was extremely happy I did (I saw Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus, and Tom Watson playing together) -- no regrets. The work was still there the next day. ... I've recommended this type of decision-making tool for others as well, including family members. --Chris Kirchenbauer

I am definitely a "hyperopic" person. In spite of the fact that my husband and I (both in our early 40s) are very well-off with net assets of close to $2 million, no kids, and zero debt other than a small mortgage, I have a very hard time spending any money without major guilt, and usually always limit myself to "practical" things instead of stuff that I just want. My husband constantly nags me not to work so much (thank God for him, otherwise I'd never have any fun). We love to travel (the one thing I will spend money on), but even then, he has to remind me to just relax and not think about the fact that I could otherwise be at work earning yet more money that I don't really need. Intellectually, I know that when my life is passing before my eyes at the end, I won't be grateful for how much I worked, but rather regretful that I didn't take more time off. Unfortunately, knowing that and actually acting on it are two very different things. --J.M.

Phone Follies

While I agree with most of what you wrote in your column about cost versus quality perception ("You Get What You Thought You Paid For"), I think you made an unfair characterization of Vonage. I've been using Vonage for almost a year now and have found it to be extremely reliable, with sound quality indistinguishable from a traditional land line. People don't know it's a Voice Over IP connection unless I tell them. And there was no problem transferring my phone number. So now I pay $18 per month for phone service, where I used to pay $55 for a comparable package from AT&T. So, yes, I do consider myself a "savvy consumer" for doing this. I've heard complaints similar to yours. But mostly the complaints are the result of inadequate and unreliable Internet connections. --G.C.

I've heard plenty of folks complain about Vonage lately. Don't give up on cheap phone service quite yet. Give it one more try with Packet8 (ignore the horrible techie name). I've had it for more than a year with no complaints. Sound quality and reliability are excellent. I may have dropped three calls in the past year (how many cell calls have you dropped in a year at three times the price?). It's even cheaper than Vonage per month. ... Just to hedge my bet on phone service, I kept my old number and simply dropped the service to a $12 per month metered line. This lets me dial 911 and toll-free numbers, and receive any number of inbound calls. It's like a second line that works well for a family, and it meant I didn't need to update any contact phone numbers. My Packet8 line functions as a normal line, on which I do all my outbound calls. The second line also serves as backup if the other line fails. --Dave Maki

Too bad about your telephone experience. If you have a land line, you can choose your long distance provider to help control long distance charges. I use Pioneer Telephone, which charges 1.9 cents per minute directly to my credit card every month, with no minimum or access charges. Since I mostly use a cell phone for toll calls the charge is usually under $5 a month, but it is always available if I need it. --Craig Deluhery

House Proud

I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciated your article on Yahoo! Finance about single women buying homes ("Real Estate and the Single Woman"). I felt very proud of women like me who are not waiting around for a man to come along to start becoming adults and nesting. I particularly appreciated your message in the final paragraph, acknowledging that there's a subset of the adult female population that's single and has no plans to have children. I happen to fall into that category, and it's so refreshing to be recognized as existing! --M.M. ]


SOURCE: http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/moneyhappy/23425 





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  • Tappa said on Feb 25, 2007....
    I have realised that to me, having "lots of money" has been a wish for enabling me to help or treat other people. When i got my first pay-check (at 17) my frist purchase was a complete whimsy - for a favourite aunt. (I saw the set of wine glasses and my first thought was 'Aunty N would Love those'.)
    I know I would enjoy having a high earning job, and I would enjoy being able to "do stuff" I have never been able to afford. But even more so I also would enjoy being able to help out friends and family members. If I won Lotto, I have always said I would firstly pay off all of our student loans and debts - that would include DH, DS1, DS2 and DD. I'd love to buy my DH the motor cycle of his dreams. I'd love to treat my sister to a trip to Australia to see our brother and other sister. I'd love to pay for DS's transgender procedures.
    For myself? apart from my student loan, I want to get to Australia too to see family there. Other than that. wealth left over would be superfluous so I guess I'd be donating it. Chasing the trappings of success is a Trap in itself, I guess.
     
    Great post, BTW; good links to more sources are always interesting. Thanks
  • Tappa said on Feb 25, 2007....
    I have realised that to me, having "lots of money" has been a wish for enabling me to help or treat other people. When i got my first pay-check (at 17) my frist purchase was a complete whimsy - for a favourite aunt. (I saw the set of wine glasses and my first thought was 'Aunty N would Love those'.)
    I know I would enjoy having a high earning job, and I would enjoy being able to "do stuff" I have never been able to afford. But even more so I also would enjoy being able to help out friends and family members. If I won Lotto, I have always said I would firstly pay off all of our student loans and debts - that would include DH, DS1, DS2 and DD. I'd love to buy my DH the motor cycle of his dreams. I'd love to treat my sister to a trip to Australia to see our brother and other sister. I'd love to pay for DS's transgender procedures.
    For myself? apart from my student loan, I want to get to Australia too to see family there. Other than that. wealth left over would be superfluous so I guess I'd be donating it. Chasing the trappings of success is a Trap in itself, I guess.
     
    Great post, BTW; good links to more sources are always interesting. Thanks
  • Tappa said on Feb 25, 2007....
    Oops - sorry about double-post
  • beyondtheveil said on Feb 25, 2007....
    bronx- It would mean freedom- not to buy anything in particular, just freedom.
  • Lucytorial said on Feb 25, 2007....

    Wealth has nothing to do with money for me....

    Wealthy is having the spirit wisdom and heart to help those who need it, it is the ability to see when I am doing well in my life and how I can be better at it, wealth are those ideals, knowledge, abilities and skills accumulated throughout my life...

    Fnancial independence is nice but it doesn't not allow me to place a value on the wealth of my life... my hubsand, my family members, my friends this is what makes me wealthy...

    It's difficult to explain actually but having learnt certain things here makes me a wealthier person than before I started..

  • redrocks said on Feb 26, 2007....
    I am not rich..
    I own 50% of a house just coz I had a legacy..
    I don't earn that much but it's ok.. I can live outside from my family's house -- for now.
    I have a bad relation with money and I hate talking about it.
    It just made me uncomfortable and I cannot even find the reason why.
    It's just that I don't like to concentrate on it too much.
    I have enough money to live and I don't need more.

    Sometimes I think about getting rich but I don't really see me in a big and wealthy place, spending time just doing shopping or similar...

  • Bronx said on Feb 26, 2007....
    Hi, Tappa. Thanks for contributing.

    Yes, having lots of money can come in handy sometimes: lots of work thinking up what to do with it is probably the biggest related job attached to it.

    Liked that phrase, "Chasing the trappings of success is a Trap in itself". So true!
  • Bronx said on Feb 26, 2007....
    beyond: hello. Freedom...that's interesting. Never quite looked at it that way before.

    Yes, I agree with you; freedom and independence do share something and seem to be the antithesis to control, dependence, and enslavement / drudgery.
  • Bronx said on Feb 26, 2007....
    Hello, Lucy: wealth as in experience, connections, knowledge, interactions, etc. - all the non-material things?

    You know, that's so interesting: it reminds me of an old saying I heard somewhere in relation to having someone giving you a helping hand with your problem being far more important or significant than just having someone handing out cash to you.

    That's deep, Lucy, very deep.


  • Bronx said on Feb 26, 2007....
    redrocks: believe me, I think you're doing fine.

    I grew up in a house in which my folks entertained guests so often that I began to dread the thought of visitors coming to the door just when I was getting ready to take a nap.

    They were always welcome in my house and we the kids had to meet them and get introduced. No big deal really, just that rest and peace of mind are necessary sometimes.

    Then, I would have exchanged my life with anyone who could get a little shuteye and move around the house naked and dancing to Van Halen or The BeeGees!
  • MissMimi said on Feb 26, 2007....
    Having financial wealth would give me the ability to take care of my parents so they wouldn't have to worry about money. I would love to be able to set up trust funds for each of my children and nieces and nephews to help with college expenses, but if I could be a bit selfish for a moment, I would build a home to my specifications that would be 100% wheelchair accessible.
  • Bronx said on Feb 27, 2007....
    missmimi: wow, that's quite thoughtful of you. 100% wheelchair accessible: for your disabled family friend, if I recall correctly? That would be great.
  • Bronx said on Feb 27, 2007....
    ameya: $100 to crack a numeric code? Is that part of the meaning of wealth creation? Great idea!

    I'll check out the link and see if the tag 'cracker' still fits me. Thanks for the 'invite'.
  • Lucytorial said on Feb 27, 2007....

    Hi bronx... so I lost track of this.

    Yes - wealth is not money for me... I  have struggled for so long and recently received a LOT of money but it didn't change the way I veiwed my wealth.

    I don't have to work yet I'm actively looking for work because it is a part of the wealth I would like to procure in my life.  Experiences, wisdom, love, learning......

    Yeh I can be a little deep sometimes  *-)

  • Bronx said on Feb 28, 2007....
    Lucy: Hi. Sounds like you work too hard or like to keep yourself very busy. Which one is it of the two very healthy preoccupations?

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