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I was reading Shichi’s first blog and she was asking if somebody ever joined any online dating service.

Well, I did.

 

It happened soon after my divorce got officially finalized. One year and half ago in September i went to my lawyer to sign the papers. In October I started to look for some serious dating service.

I felt like I needed to do something. You know, your ex husband of 18 years has left you and has remarried 3 months after your divorce is still fresh and you are there thinking... and now?

Now was empty, scary, confusing.

It was a period of sudden decisions and fast regrets, flipping through bad memories and shutting music and movies and pictures. Shutting myself down. Completely. I was only working. I was only survinging. I was afraid to remember too much. I was afraid to move. But I needed to move from that place. I thought that only forcing myself i would have been able to leave that cold and lonely place and meeting other men would help me in getting as fast as possible away from that ”Now”.

 

I didn’t even know what I was really looking for. I thought that looking for friends was not enough (I already have friends), a long lasting relationship seemed appropriate. But was I looking to marry again? I didn’t really think so. But juts in case I checked that box too. 

I shopped around and I restricted my choices to 3 sites. I didn’t start with the right foot, I have to say. The first site refused my membership. I spent 30 freaking minutes filling up all their endless requests. I mean, they were asking even if I liked to read in bed! (Which I do).

I though that if they wouldn’t have find me a man after all that extensive load of information I gave about me her where else? They would match you even to the size of your shoes or the breed of your dogs. A little too much for my liking but I was determined to give it a try. It was also the most expensive of the 3 sites. Bet they have to gain back the money they spent in that guy who actually made up all those questions.....

Well, they sent me an email and gently refused my money. I found out only later that it was a Christian based online dating (what the heck, it was e-Harmony). Oops, I though, no way I was going to find a match there.

 

So I passed to the second one. This one was serious as well, organized, with instant access to thousands of profiles but with dating services is like with books...their covers might be inviting but the reading is not that appealing. So I left there only a profile but no pictures.

I thought there was no way they would respond without even seeing my face. Wrong. Evidently my profile was enough for a lot of men. The emails started to swamp my mailbox. I’ve naturally restricted my research to at maximum of 50 miles around my zip code, But surprisingly some men were writing from Alaska, New York, Hawaii, even Seattle. How did they ever think possible to start a relationship being so far? Mystery. (I have found out that indeed is very possible....).

I decided then to give a try to the last site. I posted my profile without pictures again. I wanted to browse around a little bit. I have to confess: I was kind of nervous to put my face right there. I was feeling too exposed.... Probably my unconscious was telling me I wasn’t ready at all.   

 

But, and I am not exaggerating this, 20 minutes after posting my profile I got an email from a guy. I was so excited, My first online pretender. He was providing profile AND pictures. He sent me a nice short email asking me to check both and write back in case I was interested. He said he simply got stunned by my descriptions in my profile. He had to try if i was interested as well.

 

DC was really attractive. And his profile was wit, funny, sincere, intriguing, he was a dork driving a sport car.... lol.....He had a Law degree c/o Berkeley and was teaching at one university here in my area. He was 10 years younger than me. He didnt care about my age. He had a son of 8 living with his mom in Colorado. He was fun, smart, loved to do crossword (like me) and play bridge, definitely a geek with an attitude (I like this kind of guys). I decided to give him a chance so I wrote him back and we started to email almost each day. Well, he naturally asked for a picture.. it was more than fair...i’ve already seen his face  after all....so I decided to finally post my pictures in my profile.

While emailing him I started to receive tons of emails from other men.

It seemed i became even more popular from night to day. I felt like a popstar....lol... The biggest portion of my men were younger than me....i even got an invitation to dinner from a 21 yrs old guy...no way, thanks you...Most of them were divorced, only 3 had lost their wife due to disease, 90% had kids, nice jobs, and many of them traveled. I mean, I don’t know how many of them wrote they have been at Cancun....suggestion to single gals: maybe this is the right post for us...lol...

 

But you know after reading all these profiles and go through all those pictures you learn to read between the lines. You start noticing the details. The pictures are the most important tool to dig for clues. When the man was surrounded by lots of friends, or was photographed in some work environment or in recognizable tourist place or hugging kids or animals, I was more willing to click back to their invitation to talk. Dating online opens your eyes to the reality of the basic between man and woman. You go instinctively for the person who is appealing to the eyes. The selection is brutal. Since you have tons of choice you get picky. Or it could be that if you are picky (like I am) going through the selection is pretty easy. I basically knew who I wasn’t going to email back. I knew who was the kind of guy who could have been a possible date for me.

 

Combining the look and the word they used to describe themselves and their world was the part more interesting of all the process. Spotting the fake was exhilarating.

You won’t believe how many men posted pictures of 20 years earlier talking like they were still exactly like that person...you can actually see from their clothes, the glasses, the hairdos that their pixs are NOT from last year and yet..... Its also amazing how many men think that starting a profile with “I had no idea it was so difficult describing myself” might be appealing for a woman. I can’t count how many profiles started in this way... . If you don’t even know how to put together few lines about you how can you even hope I might find you interesting enough to get out with you?

Some men are simply pathetic: they talk about eternal love after their THIRD emails, They try to woo you with poetic phrases that are simply hysterical. They ask you to talk and when you politely answer saying “no thank you” (and you write it by yourself, not even using those standard phrases the site provides you) they get mad. One guy called me old maid and told me he was getting out with a 18 yrs old girl and so fuck you...I’d simply told him I wasn’t thinking we had very much in common.

Oh well....weirdo and psychos are everywhere

But dating service are not a community like SC: the main goal is meeting in person. And soon. So after one week of exchanging emails is usually time to meet. Here the people is not looking for friends. They are looking for the love of their life. And they want it soon.

DC and I decided to fit in the average time. First we talked at the phone to arrange the place. I told him I was going to meet him in a public place, naturally. He chose an Italian restaurant in a city between mine and his place. I told him I was showing his pix and profile and giving his phone number to one of my friends so she would have known where I was. He said it was perfectly fine with him. I couldn’t believe how smooth the process was evolving.

I kept telling me that DC would have probably been a boring, arrogant guy, somebody completely different by his description or that he wouldn’t have liked me. Even though, i thought, I would have gained experience for the next time. I just wanted to challenge myself.

I had something to proof to my self and to the man who had left me.  I deliberately was not having any anticipation for the dinner. I was expecting us to talk, eat and shake our hands saying goodbye forever. I wasn’t nervous at all. Actually, when I stepped out of my car that night I was feeling great, sexy, confident. I was also thinking: if only my ex could see me. In my mind i was walking toward a disaster with a big smile on my face.

How wrong I was...my first date with a man met through a dating service turned out to be simply great..

I arrived on time. And he was already there. I appreciated this detail. I hate to wait. We recognized each other immediately. Great: he didn’t lie. Actually, he was even more handsome than in photo. He confessed me he thought the same of me....He was confidently waiting for me at the door of the restaurant and when he spotted me a huge smile appeared on his face. I felt myself smiling too. Our conversation went on fluent from the beginning. He had a curious mind, an interesting life, and his humor was even similar to mine, on the dry, sarcastic side.

But I was still waiting for a goodbye after dinner. Instead he asked me ‘Where is that Italian ice cream shop you were talking about? Lets go to have a gelato”. He got me there. We would have gone with his car and when finished we would have come back to my car.

I went to the bathroom to have extra minutes to think about it. I thought. “That’s it. Am I going or not? Why dos he want to take his car?”.  But I have always lived following my gut. And my instinct was telling me to go, not to be paranoid. So I said yes, let’s go to have a gelato.

It was a hot night, even though it was October....he was driving like an Italian, fast and confident. At the creamery we kept talking no stop. He started to ask what about a second date? Are you free next Friday?

He touched me slightly on my cheek while trying to move some hair from my face. I said yes. I would love to. So we drove back. He helped me out of his car and before I turned to leave he took my face in his hand and kissed me.

Even his short kiss was great.

 

And so this is the story of my first online date.

I have been disgustingly lucky, isn’it?

We went steady for one month and half until Thanksgiving. Then he told me that he was moving to Austin with his job. He said he didn’t want to because he really liked me but that job would have meant more free time for being  with his son. That was it. Our relationship was way too fresh to even think to ask each other any sacrifice on traveling or long distance dating. I wasn’t ready for something like that...... I couldn’t come back to live alone in a relationship...not so soon...  

I was sad. I really liked him. He combined a great sexual attraction (that we never completely satisfied anyway) and intellectual challenge. Too bad. Danm Austin. But I didn’t cry.

My friends kept insisting that I needed to go back in the game as soon as possible. I was wiser now and I could cut shit like butter. I couldn’t let my depression to jump on my back again....

So I started answering again to my many emails. I felt like a kid in a candy store.. I had tons of men asking for a date. I had only to choose one.  

And so i picked KB. Again younger than me but only of 5 years, 2 teens daughters who were driving him nuts, two very demanding and lucrative jobs. A story of abusive marriage where he had been the abused one. A sad story of raising his daughter all alone because their mother was mentally instable and left them. Again, extremely intelligent but more sophisticated than DC, he was very into movies and arts. Avid runner and avid reader. Stressing out to the highest level but desperate for human contact. He was coming from a 3 years relationship ended the year before.

We got hooked on a wine comments I made. He loved wine. I mentioned in my email a label he didn’t know yet so he asked me” Where are you going to make me try it some of it?”.

We met this time in the foyer of a very hip trendy movie theater specialized in indie and foreign movie. I asked him to meet me close the b&W picture of Marcello Mastroianni. KB loved Fellini. How could I say no?

This time I was even less nervous than the first date with DC. I put my heart in relax mode thinking I was surely not going to have such again the luck I had with DC. Impossible to strike twice so soon. And indeed I was right.

 

But this is another story.....like the other stories still to come. 



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  • silent_wisp said on Jan 30, 2007....

    WOW....(smiling)

  • silverwhisper said on Jan 30, 2007....
    you're right, GS: you've been disgustingly lucky. that said: i'm glad for it. :>

    and i'm very curious about the next story.

    ed
  • shichi said on Jan 30, 2007....
    gingersoul.... I love your description "buffet"  
    I was amazed to hear a site turned you down even when you were willing to
    pay.  I signed up at one pay site and one that is totally free (plentyoffish).
    The first fellow I met was new to the area but not to dating sites.  We became
    friends.  He couldn't seem to find a date so the two fo us re-wrote his profile
    and I helped him with his emails...lol
    He kept saying you women have it so easy, according to him the ratio
    is 4 men to every one woman looking.
    One other precaution I always took.  I had a pad and pen readily handy and
    the first thing upon arriving at the designated parking lot, I wrote their license
    plate number down and left it in my car.
    car. 

     
     
  • secretlife said on Jan 30, 2007....

    ginger:  oh i loved reading this story! 

    i have spoken to men about their experiences with online dating.

    their stories aren't as positive as yours.

    it seems that woman are just as likely as men to deceive about appearances....

    my little sister did personal ad dating for a while when she began dating again....

    she had some really bad experiences, and 'dates' turned into 30 minute affairs where it would be clear in that first 30 minutes if there would be a 2nd.

    not many were.  out of maybe 50 men she met, i think she went out with only 2 more than that one time....

    i love these stories. 

  • gingersoul said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Silent whisp.....i liked your."wow"......and your smile....mai i assume there is more behind that smile?......lol...want to share it?

    SW...i know....disgustingly is the right adjective.....i couldn't agree more...lol.... even with other men i met there my luck has not been that bad...but, mind you, i had  my share of wackos too...maybe another blog......list is long too.....

    Shi....that thing really ticked me off. You know, you already approach this new experience with pretty much low expectations, you doubt your reasons and your self esteem is pretty low....then you have a huge populare site simply telling you "Sorry but within our thousand and thousand of men we simply are unable to find you a match".

    What do you think? I felt like they were closing the doors of Starbuck and i was left behind.........LOL...

    Seriously, they should advertize their target better.  For a moment i thought....darn it..... there must be something very  peculiar in me. Too much... i went on and look through my answers to their (loooong) questionarie. Nope, i would have repeat teh same answers again...so it was me....

    Then a friend  told me their goal is matching Christian people with Christian people....i understood...when asked about my religious beliefs i checked the agnostic box.....how could they find me a partner?.....it comes to think...shouldn't they be the first ones to open their ams to EVERYBODY?....WJWD?.....(as SW reminded us).......lol....

    About that ratio you talked about...actually is a statistic data that there are 7 men for one woman. Lets talk about competition.......lol...

    I like your idea of writing down the plates of their cars....very smart....

    i didn't think about it....{{hugs}}

     

  • gingersoul said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Secret....   you are right...women are equally deceiving ......a lot of men i was in contact with were complaining about their previous experiences...one guy told me he was in the dating arena by two years in 3 or 4 services simultaneously  and he was so frustrated that he was thinking to ask for a web camera conversation before even considering going to a date.....i gently crossed him out ......

    People is desperate, they are looking for being accepted so hard they would do anything....its a delusional trip they fall into sometimes.....very, very sad...

    Did you sister meet some decent guy at least?

  • secretlife said on Jan 30, 2007....

    ginger:  one.  she dated him for about 4 months before realizing he wasn't the one for her.

    i'm going to blog today about who she ended up with!

  • beyondtheveil said on Jan 30, 2007....
    ginger- I am speaking of many years ago, but my experience was this- anytime I looked for someone, it was short lived, anytime it "happened" it was always a much better relationship. I told myself I would never look for a wife, it would "happen" or it wouldn't happen at all. There were some lonely months, to be sure, but finding my wife was a happening, & a good one at that.
     
    But that was just my experience. I have nothing against dating services or looking around.
  • mobil said on Jan 30, 2007....
    Ginger; My son met his wife this way, but not online. It was in the personals
    adds in the newspaper. She put in the add and he read it.
     
    They met and were married not long after, have been married for ten years
    now and she is nine years older than he.
     
    I had no idea so much of this goes on. The deceit isn't available in the old
    fashioned method, yet not so many opportunities with old fashioned either.
     
    I would bet your stories are good ones compared to some of the horror that
    must be a part of this kind of dating. Be careful Ginger.......it is a jungle out
    there...............also, never forget to have fun. You are a very special lady
    and deserving of a man who knows and understands that...
  • gingersoul said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Secret......cant wait to read it.....{hugs}

    Beyond.....oh, i completely agree with you....you know, it was a period in my life in which you could have told me to jump from the sixth floor and most likely i would have jumped......i just felt i had to do something that  would have put me completely out there, way from my aching soul....

    you are so right....love can be found in the most unexpected places though....why not a dating service, i thought....

    Mobil.....{{hugs}} are you always this sweet? *smack*....

    Dont worry for me..i am not doing the online dating anymore..... last summer i have cancelled my account there and i only occasionally go back to browse around..i can still have access to some areas...but i dont have anymore interest ..

    i guess i prefer to work inward more than outward....lol...

    i can say it has been definetely my curiosity to push me in that directions...and yes i have lots of stories to tell....;-)

    Like the guy who started to call me Italian Princess and posted a pictures of himself like this flamboyant, elegant kind of guy.....he would say he was singing in some trio jazz downtown.... he would say he had a maid and was travelling many month of he years ..but when we finally talked at the phone (never my home phone, only my cell) his voice sounded suspiciously way too old for a 51 yrs old man with a singing voice....i swear, it sounded like my granpa...

    nervethless to say, i didn't teven investigate in reality......he kept sending emails begging for a date.....he even promised me a carton full of salmon and fois gras.....hope he gave them to his cat.......lol...

  • dailyachesandpains said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Ginger,

    I loved this story!  I can't wait to hear the others! 

    I secretly wish I tried on-line dating, but when I was single, it wasn't so popular.  Half of these sites, maybe even all of them, didn't exist!

    Daily

  • mobil said on Jan 30, 2007....
    Ginger; Yes I am, I can't help it...............lol.........and *smack* to you.
  • lioneljay said on Jan 30, 2007....
    Ginger, I keep seeing television commercials for one of the larger online services and wonder just how effective it is. Thanks for the play-by-play description of your early experience.

    Of course, there are some success stories as well. My younger brother was married last summer to a young woman that he met through one of the online services (I don't actually recall which one it was).
  • gingersoul said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Daily......really, i am amazed by how many people i know that actually ended up having great experiences from these services... My ex sister-in-law (sister of my ex) met online this guy from Georgia. She lived in Texas. Well they got so close that she sold her house and moved in with him in Georgia. They are together by almost 2 years now.....Another one is the friend of one of my friends here: again, she met him on e-Harmony and now they are planning the wedding for next Spring.........

    Mobil........and that is simply great!..... LOL...

     

  • gingersoul said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Lionel......yes...they can really work...i remember i was the skeptical one....mumbling about the depressing desperation of these poor people forced to meet people through a computer......i was asking..where is the magic? the element of surprise? the sparkle? the chemisty?

    Well...its all there only you dont have waste endless hours in the wrong places to find it....these services only set the table for you.....than i guess its up to you showing up with gread food  and great wine...or staying home eating a frozen pizza.....:-0

  • kruuyai said on Jan 30, 2007....
    ginger... you are really a great storyteller.  I loved reading this.  I've done my share of personal ad and online dating as well.  This brought back a lot of memories.  I also always did what you did... giving the guy's contact info to someone who knew where I was going, who I was going to be with, and when I was expected back.  I would always check back in with them when I got back, so they knew I was alright.  I never had a dangerous situation, but you never know, so I would highly recommend it to anyone who is doing this kind of dating.  Ginger, I can't wait for your next installment!
  • gingersoul said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Kruu...thank you so much.....i am glad you enjoy it...{{{{hugs}}}}

    yes, i forgot to add that at the end of each date i would leave a message (in case it was too late) or i would call my friends  to let them know i was fine and at home.......you never know...:-).

  • moonriver said on Jan 30, 2007....

    interesting stories, ginger. i couldn't relate with most of it, of course, having had a different socio-cultural milieu where "online dating" meant knowing the sure dates when your neighborhood atm machine is really online, hahaha. but it happens a lot here now too especially among kids, using friendster-like sites...you're right, you were lucky. :-)

     

  • husbandhater said on Jan 30, 2007....
    Nice story Ginger. I laughed in the middle and was plesantly surprised at the end.
    Never tried online dating although if I wasn't married I probably would have.
    I hope you find your prince charming soon.
  • gingersoul said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Moon.....lol......yep, guess you boys had to withdraw some money before bringing your sweeties out for dancing.......i remember that time too when the only online thing useful for meetings was a phone...a plain, no cordless phone .......and when planning encounters whispering so that nobody could hear you  was a real exploit.....lol...

    yes, and i even keep being lucky online.....*wink*

  • gingersoul said on Jan 30, 2007....
    HHater.....you are so sweet......what they say? you have to kiss a lot of frogs before kissing a prince?...lol...sometimes i think i already kissed enough princes and am alone again.....i need a cute frog!......:-)
  • MsStar39 said on Jan 30, 2007....
    Doggonnit ginger, I was really into it, you really have a way with words, waiting patiently on the next chapter.
  • yani said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Giner: 

                    I enjoyed reading it so much!  Thank you for writing it in bold and large letters :) I'd say you're very lucky not to end up with a wacko the first time you met from someone online. I'll wait for more of your stories.

  • gingersoul said on Jan 30, 2007....

    Ms....oh, so now i am sorry to have finished so soon.......LOL....thank you for your words......i take in consideration your appreciation... 

    Yani....and thank you to you too.....yes, about the bold large letters..at the beginning i thought tmaybe they were too big and the story too long but i have to say i hate when i read a long story in too cramped editing...glad you appreciate....i promise to write the next one in this way just for you...lol.....

  • angeleyes23 said on Jan 31, 2007....
    just tryin to find a way to connect with people on here since i hear that is the only way you can get your paged looked at etc...so plz check me out...thx
  • yani said on Jan 31, 2007....
    Thank you. I'd appreciate that. I must be getting old, my eyes just gets all blurry if I have to read long stories in small letters. I'll look forward to it. :)
  • gingersoul said on Jan 31, 2007....

    Angel....i left you two comments already.....nice posts...:-)

    Yani...anytime, lady...:-)

  • msteetee73 said on Feb 01, 2007....
    Wow, I thought I was the only one who had this experience.  However, after my third online dater, I found the man I fell in love with.  We're not living happily ever after because he had to move to Dallas for a job.  But it looks like I'll be heading that way soon.  I have to admit, online dating is like a buffet.  I found it much more convenient.  You get to find out about a person, their thought process, likes and dislikes first, before having to get dressed up, meet them, and find out that you've got nothing in common.  It's like shopping on eBay. 
  • gingersoul said on Feb 01, 2007....

    Hello msteetee.....nice to meet you, first of all....

    I am glad you had a great gaining from your service.... 

    So are you moving here in Dallas with him? Good luck to you.....:-)

    Yes, like shopping at ebay.......lol.......i like this analogy too...

  • poeticjepp said on Feb 01, 2007....

    First, thanks for the kind words regarding my poetry, i truly appreciate them, and I like to know when my words have had a positive experience with someone. Secondly, the whole internet dating experience is essentially a crap-shoot. It can be fun as long as expectations are not too high. You simply weed through the endless emails to the best of your ability and when you zero in on someone, you just have fun for fun's sake. I have always maintained that the time when you meet someone of interest is usually when you are not actively looking. The best way to meet people is just to put yourself in environments of like minded people, and let nature take its course. Happy hunting;)

    Jepp

  • angeleyes23 said on Feb 01, 2007....
    i met the love of my life off myspace...i think there is something about getting to know a soul first in a very deep way...and then gettin to know them physically...you know them more complete i think...because those mask are down when you feel safe behind a screen for a bit... i will admit though its not the safest thing in the world...and i wouldnt always do it...dont go lookin for them even through myspace i didnt...they found me...
  • angeleyes23 said on Feb 01, 2007....
    i met the love of my life off myspace...i think there is something about getting to know a soul first in a very deep way...and then gettin to know them physically...you know them more complete i think...because those mask are down when you feel safe behind a screen for a bit... i will admit though its not the safest thing in the world...and i wouldnt always do it...dont go lookin for them even through myspace i didnt...they found me...
  • gingersoul said on Feb 01, 2007....

    Jepp.......my appreciation is sincere......you have been a lightning in my mailbox today.... please, keep writing....:-)

    About dating services.....i was writing right now the second installment of my hunting adventures.......that, btw, is over....i have cancelled my account by 5 months now....stating what you wrote, you might be surprised by my finding..so come back and read me...:-)

     

    Angel.....i totally agree with you.....there is something you can discover through writing that is difficult sometime to convey with words...even if you are a skilled wordcrafter....

    When i met my ex husband it was in a disco club...would you ever bet that a drunk sailor and a drunk smarty pants journalist would ever lasted 18 years after that encounter? I wouldn't have bet either.....but i believe the reason of our deep attachment has been also the fact that we could see each only once a month (if we were lucky)  for more than 2 years....What kept us together (beside the great sex) have been letters ....tons oof letters (emails weren't that popular yet and if so i didnt' have a personal computer either).

    So we had to rely only on the Gods of Postal Office (and, man, if they are lazy bones in Italy...... so sloooooooow ...:-)

    I agree that taking the time to deeply understand the other person before or in parallel with the physical approach is the best way......your defense are down, your mind and your heart are free to take the time for presenting your real you...... there is no distraction...only sharing.....

  • silent_wisp said on Feb 07, 2007....
    gingersoul: Thanks ...I just smile that all...
  • KayRoseOrchid said on May 15, 2007....
    thanks ginger for directing me to this post! i see what you are trying to do missy...
    ehe

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