Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, should not be allowed to hold office. To do so, he would have to swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States which is contrary to Islamic Law. So, the issue is far more involved then merely refusing to place his hand on the Bible and requesting the Quran instead when taking the Oath of Office. An effort is now underway to allow 100,000 refugees from Iraq to enter the United States. This too would be a major mistake. As more and more Muslims attempt to enter the political arena, are we supposed to change our laws to accommodate them? I think not. To do so, could mean the beginning of the end for the American Way of Life.
Ariene posted on Dec 15, 2006
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lioneljay said on Dec 15, 2006....
I'm curious, Ariene. How would you describe "the American Way of Life" as you mentioned it here? -
Ariene said on Dec 15, 2006....
I know this country has never been perfect. But I grew up in the suburbs and later moved to the city for a time. When I was 14, I got my first job on my own merit and I've continued doing whatever I could to better my life throughout the years. I've also done charitable work. So, I can tell you what is not "The American Way of Life" in my opinion. This country was built mainly by Christians and Jews with a basic belief in God. However, the people in this country are free to practice whatever religion they choose, (if any) as it should be. Therefore, we should not have a government consisting of elected officials who don't share that belief. I was reading on a website yesterday (can't remember which one) where 5 women in the middle east were beheaded on December 14th for not following the Quran. I believe in legal immigration, freedom of speech, the right to move freely within America, God, and the Constitution of the United States. I don't believe in Affirmative Action, nor America being a place for everyone and anyone who wants to be here. When people come here, they should respect this land and the rights of those who were born in it. Instead, there are movements to change it and not for the better. Honestly, I don't like it when just about every business I go into is owned by, or employs mainly foreigners, especially when I see so many struggling Americans. But I'm rambling and I guess this gives you an idea of my beliefs. -
SeeingRed said on Dec 15, 2006....
Ariene-I find your rambling very refreshing! -
Ariene said on Dec 16, 2006....
SeeingRed - Thanks! -
lioneljay said on Dec 16, 2006....
Ariene, I think that you may be confusing the actions of some theocratic nations, such as Iran and Saudi Arabia, with the religion of Islam. While Islam is the religion of those nations, it is not a core beleif of Islam that a nation should be theocratic.
Keith Ellison is an American who chose to run for Congress and thousands of Americans agreed with his intent enough to elect him. As for the so-called controversy over his being sworn in using a copy of the Koran instead of the Bible, that's all bulls**t. You see, the actual swearing in takes place without the use of any religious books. The Koran will only be used for a ceremonial photo session that will take place after he is sworn in along with all the members of the House of Representatives.
Unless you have read the actual words of Keith Ellison in which he stated that he does not believe in freedom of religion as established by our constitution (and if you have, I'd like to see a link to the source), I think it would be fair to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Ariene said on Dec 16, 2006....
Of course, I respect your beliefs. Although I haven't checked into it, I don't think the average non-Muslim American voted for Keith Ellison - Muslim. I've done some research into Mr. Ellison whose past hasn't exactly been free of questionable associations. It's not just freedom of religion that I have a problem with. The Koran should not be used in any manner when taking the oath of office, even for ceremonial purposes in this country. Just because I haven't specifically read that he does not believe in upholding the Constitution over his religion, doesn't mean it's not true. But, then again, the outcome remains to be seen. I have known, and know, Muslims in this country and, I have to tell you, their beliefs are completely contrary to the freedoms I've enjoyed growing up in the U.S. -
NobodySpecial said on Dec 16, 2006....
The American way of life includes freedom of religion and how you choose to live your life. Why would you want to deny someone this other than bigotry? -
Ariene said on Dec 16, 2006....
NobodySpecial - This has nothing to do with freedom of religion, merely the right to uphold the laws and traditions already in place in the United States which,by the way, this country was built on. If someone chooses to be in the political arena in America, they should respect it. I don't think that if I were, for some reason or another, in a country that practiced Islam, I would be allowed to swear on the Bible, instead of the Kuran, if policy dictated otherwise. -
NobodySpecial said on Dec 16, 2006....
We shouldn't have to swear on anything to take office and techniqually we don't. I agree that they should respect the laws of this country but how you are saying this it has nothing to do with law. -
Ariene said on Dec 16, 2006....
NobodySpecial - I'm not sure what you're asking me. If you're saying that a Muslim should be allowed to use the Koran, because it's part of his religion, and we have freedom of religion here, I disagree. I'm sure you know the saying "When in Rome....". I love America and don't want to see our government erode to a place where "In God We Trust" is removed from currency, etc. and the basic ideals the country was conceived from are diminished more than they already have been. I'm not a bigot and tend to take people at face value, unless they show me differently. I'm just wondering how, if the teachings of Islam conflict with the Constitution, Ellison could be effective as a U.S.Congressman. In the end, which would he choose....to uphold the Constitution or to follow the Koran? -
NobodySpecial said on Dec 16, 2006....
The law doesn't exactly follow the law of the Bible either. So does that mean many of the US Congressmen who are Christian shouldn't be allowed because they may be uneffective? -
Ariene said on Dec 16, 2006....
NobodySpecial - I decided to take the time to read some of your poems, as I too are somewhat of a poet...having won an award or two and having been published a handful of times. You're very talented and remind me of myself in days gone by. You know, as well as I, however, that no government should be dictated by religion which is why there is a separation of Church and State. But, the laws weren't written in order to wipeout the presence of God completely within our government which was created mainly by Christians and Jews, not Muslims. If a Christian refused to take the Oath of Office in the same manner as everyone else is required to, he/she shouldn't be allowed to hold office either. -
NobodySpecial said on Dec 16, 2006....
But like Lioneljay said earlier, swearing in on the Bible is only for show and the actual swearing in is done in a different manner. The congressman in question shouldn't have to swear in on the Bible since it isn't actually part of the actual swearing in. -
Ariene said on Dec 16, 2006....
NobodySpecial - OK, You have the last word on this one.
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