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This piece was my first post at SoulCast (July 19, 2006). A discussion ensued between Silverwhisper and myself, as in how it could be interpreted. I thought to revise this before posting it again, however, in the context of my life, the words fit. And I feel most of you know me well enough to know in what capacity.

Later, I will explain the meaning. On the surface, it may seem a poem of love and marriage, but it isn't, really. If anyone should wish to take a stab at what the true meaning behind certain phrases might be, then be my guest. If anything, it will make for interesting discussion.

If I stop to think about what I am going to say, this will never be written. Here lies before you a short poem. Please do not misinterpret this as my husband did; it is not about infidelity. It is that moment in the marriage bed where one decides whether the coming event will be for sport or a true "baby maker".

In The Pink

A Kiss

A Touch

So Shimmering

Sweet

Cotton Candy

Pink

An Embrace

A Thrust

In the Name of

Love?

Lust?

A Betrayal of

Trust

Lost in the Glow

Of Milk & Honey

Primordial

Blue-eyed Children

**Please feel free to remark.**


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  • silverwhisper said on Dec 06, 2006....
    i don't even remember what i said about it anymore it's been so long!

    ed
  • lioneljay said on Dec 06, 2006....
    This works on a couple of different levels for me, Jade. I like the simple phrases that evoke the sex in an impressionistic way. But I also like the harsher phrase, "betrayal of trust" that insinuates itself in here, introducing the spiritual level that underlies all such acts.
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Silver: You pointed out that a 'betrayal of trust' did seem to hint at infidelity--because the average reader would not know my background, and would only have the words of the poem as basis for interpretation.

    If my husband finishes sans protection, he seems to feel I seduced him into doing so (not all of the time), and creating another child would be the betrayal. But, it is very easy to get caught up in the moment, is it not?

    And the glow I speak of is not about the beauty of having children (although it is a wonderful thing). I am speaking of orgasm. For one earth-shattering moment, everything stops. Whether things are wrong or right is not an issue--only the bliss exists.

  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    LJ: Thanks! There are a number of veiled meanings throughout the piece. "In The Pink" has the obvious sexual connotation, but it also refers to the healthy flush one achieves, and to be 'in the pink' also means to be happy, or just well in general. And we all know how good sex is for our general well-being. Actually, it promotes good physical health, too. As I am sure you know!

    Shimmering makes reference to the building of anticipation and the ascent to climax.

    There are a number of other meanings, but I am waiting to see what others might say.

  • missb said on Dec 06, 2006....
    I love it, Jade. I love its simplicity yet it still leaves you wondering what it really means ;)

    Cheers!
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Missb: Thank you, ma'am! It was the first poem I have ever written about the act of love. I feared being racy, so I attempted to hide my meaning within the words. I hope it doesn't leave my readers wondering too much--as in--'what the devil is she talking about?'. :)
  • danetteb said on Dec 06, 2006....
    I can just admire poets like yourself. Writing is okay, but poetry? I feel like I've been tossed into the deep end of the swimming pool, and I do not know how to swim.

    That's a really good poem though. ;)
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Danetteb: Thank you! I wrote more poetry when I was younger--but I favor prose now. In fact, that is the first bit of poetry that I have written in about eleven years.

    And sure you can write poetry! Some might even argue that what I have written is not poetry. It doesn't contain any kind of structure and is rather free-flowing.

  • copsunited said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Just made me horny and want to thrust..and thrust..and thrust and thrust thrust..and thrust..and thrust and thrust thrust..and thrust..and thrust and thrust thrust..and thrust..and thrust and thrust thrust..and thrust..and thrust and thrust
    You get the message...at least I thrust you do...
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    (Jade snickers, then smacks Cops on the shoulder.)

    Dirty ol' man! :D

  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on Dec 06, 2006....
    I´m going to copy/paste this Jade, if you´ll allow?

    A kaleidoscope of images.

    The rhythm and the imagery it evokes in me, is fairy tale like in the beginning - like skipping rope;  it switches to a languid sensual episode and then a tinge or a hint of darknes to blaze oh so brightly in innocence.  Love IT!

    I could hear music while reading it.

    Impressive, powerful in it´s simplicity.   Definitely not pretentious!!!

    More!

    Paper~
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Paper: I appreciate the compliment! Poetry is not generally the medium that I use--maybe because I tend to run off at the mouth/pen. But who knows? Maybe I'll come up with something else.

    Funny, as a teenager, I wrote tons of poetry. I found some the other day. Maybe I'll post some with a huge disclaimer (about my age at the time of writing).

    You really want a copy? Whatever would you do with it? I'm just curious (and flattered).

  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Hi again Jade,

    Words soothe me.  Rereading poems, essays or personal letter that move me passionately is like meditation.

    I had a very long bout of writers block.  It is still difficult to talk about it.  Since I started reading and writing I could not remember having such a long dry spell.  I think I mentioned it to you.  The kind of writers block that I could not even write a letter to a friend, or my journal.

    It was as if I was turning stupid, mad.  Don´t think me arrogant, Jade.  I have to write this so you´ll understand why I seem like a lunatic kissing and hugging everyone.  Announcing my joy and love.

    I worked as a researcher/scriptwriter and an all arounder in TV and Film.  I was also a copywriter in Advertising.  Writing was my passion and my identity.

    Could you imagine, suddenly not being able to do what you love most.  What made you proud, even beautiful to yourself.

    Now, I can read and write again.  It sounds stupid.  It is difficult to explain.  I´m still dealing with it.  Remember the words of the flamers in my blog.  They were like knive plunged in my heart.  Put me back to a dark place.  Thanks for being with me then.

    I love your poem, it is pure.  I would love to come back to it when I feel.....well, dirty.  Sorry, I say what I feel. I can´t help it, I don´t want to.

    Thanks for your generosity.  You could delete, I won´t mind.  I´ll copy and save this comment for me.  I think, I have offended someone because of my free flowing commenting.  No one said anything, as I posted a blog (Good Manners and Right Conduct in SC: deleted).

    Oh gosh, one query can loosen my sub-conscious in a snap.

    To reiterate: beautiful.

    Paper~
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Who did you offend? Wait--I suppose you don't wish to say. Isn't commenting half of what SoulCast is about, anyway?

    Writer's block kept me silent for nearly ten years. My identity is so wrapped in my writing, whether it be fiction or non--that I felt lost not doing so. Like I didn't know who I was anymore--because I felt that was my purpose. I mean, I gave up two good scholarships to write (and I must admit, I am kicking myself over that). If I don't end up getting somewhere, other than SoulCast, with my writing--well, I think I'll hang myself with my shower curtain.

    No, not really. But it bothers me that I haven't really gotten anywhere with my writing. I have to face the fact that I am only a big fish in a small pond, and my longevity here may have the most to do with it--not skill.

    I can see why you were hurt by such cruel remarks. Knowing myself as I do, I am sure I would be bothered, too. You should be comforted--at least somewhat--by the fact that you have a number of readers who do not feel that way.

    If it makes you feel any better, I lost a subscriber this week, but I am not sure why. I know who it is, but it seems whiney to approach the blogger (after all, I have 200+ subscribers). I still would like to know why, though. Did I tick the person off with something I said, or did I not read him/her in return enough? Honestly, it is hard to get around to everyone. Ah, well--such is life!

  • Zayda said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Jade--Love the poem.  I love that it's simple on one level and complex at the same time.

    I would, however, see if you can add some more spaces between the end of the poem and your "please feel free to remark" or add a line of something (asterisks).  Because right now since the spacing between the last line of the poem and that last statement is the same as the spacing throughout the poem it reads almost as if the last line of the text is the last line of the poem.  And that seems odd.  :)
  • CreativeWoman said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Jade,
    I love the poem.  It's heartfelt, sincere and a little sad.

    CW
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Zayda: Thank you! Coming from a prof, that is high praise, indeed. :)

    Yes, I was just looking at the last line. It bothers me, too. I had put a number of paragraph breaks between, but it doesn't seem to help. So, asterisks or italics it is.

    I see you are having just as hard of a time staying away as I am! :)

    CW: Thanks. It is a bit depressing, isn't it? Happiness for a fleeting moment before the betrayal sets in--and that is no way to run a railroad.

  • gingersoul said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Jade..good idea reposting it..i  already read it but doing it again i like even more....you succeded in giving me the right perception...an orgasm, not necessary a possibility of a baby, a trust broken but recomposed in yourself....a Zen moment...a pink breathing...lovely....
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Ginger: Thank you! So, you were one of the ones that saw it, huh? I figured it had been long enough--that most people had either forgotten, not seen it the first time around, or weren't present to see it.

    You are right: it is about being swept up in the moment--ignoring all possible outcomes. I use 'primordial' to explain the possibility of pregnancy. After all, the end product for a man is dispensing of his little soldiers. :)

    Before coming to SoulCast, I shared this with my husband (who thought it eluded to infidelity or even the woman being underage--young, fresh, pink) and a friend of mine (who thought it was just about being in love and having children). I am glad that others seem to interpret more for what it was. I posted this at www.writing.com, but it was never noticed.

  • tbs230 said on Dec 06, 2006....

    Okay, so I interpreted this completely differently. At first the poem seems soft…a kiss a touch…but then when you talk about the same action…an embrace a thrust…it seems hurried, distance. And then you ask if it was love or lust, like maybe there were second thoughts about it, like you were asking yourself if this was happening for the right reasons…a betrayal of trust…I took that to mean that this act had become something unwanted, something that had shattered your trust in the person. Lost in the glow of Milk and Honey…he was oblivious to your reaction because his needs were being met, had in fact been met.

    And the word primordial – such a powerful word. This word has such a wealth of meaning in this context. It could mean that this was your first sexual experience, or this was the beginning of subsequent experiences like the one that just occurred, or if taken with your last stanza that this was the start of life.

    Maybe I'm just in a dark mood tonight and am completely off. I tend to do that a lot. Either way, this is an excellent poem, you are truly talented.



  • JadeLondon said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Tbs320: Thank you for taking the time to so thoroughly interpret it. And that is the beauty of poetry--the different meanings that can be found.

    And actually, your interpretation is not too terribly different from my own. 'The betrayal of trust' refers a bit to my spouse. He seems to have regrets after the fact (he is terrified of making another child).

    You are incredibly close to the meaning behind 'milk & honey'. And 'primordial' could go either way. It could be coupled with the line above or below.

    Again, thank you! And no, you aren't having an off day. I think as veiled as the piece is, it leaves itself open for many meanings. And that is okay, too.

    And thank you for such a nice compliment. It does me good to hear such things. I have few in my real life that I can share my things with, and I always welcome feedback.

  • writerspirit said on Dec 06, 2006....
    Jade,
    I think it's wonderful that you're sharing such n obviously personal poem. I too think it is wonderful in it's simplicity! Love and lust are often confused and inexplicably intertwined. The "betrayal of trust" goes both ways I think; after all, the male is just as responsble(or irresponsible) as the female in any sexual exchange.
    I love that this poem has created so much discussion; keep it coming.
     
    writerspirit  
  • Frlncwrtr said on Dec 06, 2006....

    Jade:

    I am terrible with poems.  I cannot write them or interpret them.  In college I did extremely well with English and writing classes, however I always fell short where poetry was concerned.  Often I would try to interpret the writings of others, and I'd end up way off base.  When assigned to write poetry I could never seem to write what I meant and no one would EVER get the meaning that I intended.

    With all that in mind, I am not going to try to guess, but I do know that the way it is written, it seems so simple.  I am embarrassed to say that I cannot figure it out.

    With my lack of knowledge in this area, I feel that I am the last person who should pass judgement on it.  However, based on the totality of your writing that I have read, I am sure it is a great poem.

    Sorry for being so lost!

  • JadeLondon said on Dec 07, 2006....
    Writerspirit: Thank you! Honestly, I didn't expect this much discussion would ensue--but I am very glad that it did. Few of my real life acquaintances grasped at the meaning. To see so many that were able to read into the possibilities that I set forth--well, it does the soul good.

    I haven't written poetry in years, but now maybe I'll start again. :)

    Frlncwrtr: That took a lot for you to say--and I appreciate it. You are so thoroughly analytical about things that it wouldn't surprise me if you couldn't look to the more figurative. And that is not a shortcoming by any means. I wish I had a more analytical way of thinking. I have seen you take things that I have put forth and break them down piece by piece (hey--you could probably do the same for poetry).

    But you know, not everyone cares for poetry. I myself even favor prose. This piece was a rarity for me--at least as an adult.

    And it doesn't bother me if you see something different in the meaning than I. And I have found in regards to myself that you are usually right on.

  • scalywag said on Dec 07, 2006....
    all I can say is, it's beautiful Jade.  I love it.
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 07, 2006....
    Scaly: Thank you, sir!
  • copsunited said on Dec 07, 2006....
    Jade..I still like the thrust part..huh..was there any other part?? Huh?
     
    :>   JD
  • silverwhisper said on Dec 07, 2006....
    it's weird seeing someone else use that smiley. :>

    ed
  • Frlncwrtr said on Dec 07, 2006....

    Thanks Jade!

    I wish I could break poems down piece by piece as I do other things, but I have tried that and still I just don’t get it.

    It’s not that I dislike poetry, when I understand it, I really like it. But, most of the time I really have a hard time grasping it.

    I am glad that you think I am usually right on in regards to things you have written. At least I know I haven’t been steering you the wrong way.

  • JadeLondon said on Dec 08, 2006....
    Cops: Apparently not in your world! :P

    Silver: It does seem to exclusively be your symbol. I've always thought that, anyway. I have also found if you don't use :> or :D that you are generally upset.

    Frlncwrtr: Maybe it is part of your brain craving more facts--which you aren't getting. Or there are so many different ways of interpreting and you are hard-pressed to pick one meaning.

  • silverwhisper said on Dec 08, 2006....
    nah, i don't care if others use it. it just doesn't happen often, that's all. :p

    and as you can see: not upset. :D

    ed
  • JadeLondon said on Dec 08, 2006....
    Silver: I agree! Until now, you were the only one that I ever saw use it. And I am glad to see you are in high spirits! :)
  • Frlncwrtr said on Dec 08, 2006....
    Hmm Jade...I'm not sure...
  • VICARIOUS said on Feb 09, 2007....
    I didn't know Reader's Digest posted poetry. Lol.
     
    This was very real.
     
  • JadeLondon said on Feb 09, 2007....
    VICARIOUS: Hey! I like Reader's Digest! :)

    Thanks for the compliment. Realism is important to me in my writing.

  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on Dec 14, 2008....

    Dear Jade,

    ... I felt like revisiting ...

    I still feel the magical beauty of this poem.  It is still soothing.

    I hope you are well, and having a wonderful yuletide season with your family...

    <3

    paper ~


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