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I was doing some reading yesterday and came across something that I want to share with the Soulcast members. The passages I am going to share are from the book “Tahrirolvasyleh", "Tahrir Al wasila", and “The Little Green Book” written by the Ayatollah Khomeini.

The Ayatollah Khomeini back in 1979 declared Iran an Islamic republic. He also became the religious leader and dictator of Iran and he was considered a major enemy of the United States. During his reign of power, he instituted a strict regime of Islamic law, ordering women to wear veils and suspending the criminal justice system in favor of religious courts. The Iran hostage crisis and the Iran-Iraq War also marked his rule.

The Ayatollah Khomeini had an enormous following and he wrote many books on Islam and his idea of what Allah wanted. After reading some of the passages from his books, I am wondering how these people can ever make the clam of Islam being a great religion.

What is your opinion?

  "A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."
- Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm,
Gom, Iran, 1990

“It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.”
- Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241, issue number 12

"Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?"
- "The Little Green Book" "Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini", Bantam Books
 
A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.
- Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm,
Gom, Iran, 1990

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  • silverwhisper said on Dec 01, 2006....
    i've always felt that looking for guidance re: sex in most religions is bound to produce only the most distressing of possible results. :>

    ed
  • queenparanoia said on Dec 01, 2006....
    i dont think allah would like that. i hate it when people put god's or any other holy perception badly. i'm a catholic and i think that we all should rspect each others religion. i think his idea of allah is wrong. just ask any muslim.
  • curmudgeon said on Dec 01, 2006....
    There are probably a great many people who agree with the Ayatollah on sexual matters. Sharia also reportedly allows "honor killings" - where a rape victim's family will kill her to protect their honor.
     
    A couple of years ago, some psychologist from Minnesota I think tried to publish a book about how young children can of their own volition engage in healthy sexual relationships with adults.
     
    Great minds think alike, I guess.
  • phyxius_has_risen said on Dec 01, 2006....
    Queen Ayatollah Khomeini shares the same views as Mohamad the author of the Quran did and Khomeini is reafirming what Mohamad said.
  • falaksher786 said on Dec 01, 2006....
    Haha I am a Muslim This is not Islam & Ayatollah Khomeini is Parsi.Who told you to read stupid books written by these people.If you really want to know about Islam then read Quran & Muhammad (PBUH) has completely different views from this stupid weird person.We are not even allowed to even see a girl who is non Mahram.meaning Who is not our sister or mother or daughter.Muslim men Or women who are not married, are not allowed to have sex in any case or in any condition at all or at any cost.Study Quran not to become a muslim just to understand us we are not terreroists or baby fuck** plz .We respect u Ur religion Ur Community & we are not at all against u.May Allah Protect us all.
  • phyxius_has_risen said on Dec 01, 2006....
    falaksher786 I have read the Quran and it is a bad as the books Ayatollah Khomeini wrote.
  • falaksher786 said on Dec 01, 2006....
    Oh sorry to hear that what part of it did u find bad.haha plz explain brefly
  • falaksher786 said on Dec 01, 2006....
    & The Muhammad (PBUH) is not the author of the Quran.Allah Is.
  • phyxius_has_risen said on Dec 01, 2006....

    Mohammand was the one who wrote it so that makes him the author and here are some of the passages that I find bad and they are self explanitory.

     

    Direct quotes from the Quran:

     

    ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)

    O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred... (8:65)

    Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)

    "Fight those who do not believe in Allah...And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God;  and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30) 

    And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)

    When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them (9:5)

    And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He GAVE YOU MASTERY OVER THEM (8:71)

    FIGHT THEM: ALLAH WILL PUNISH THEM BY YOUR HANDS AND BRING THEM TO DISGRACE, AND ASSIST YOU AGAINST THEM. (9:14)

    FIGHT THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLAH, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, NOR FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF TRUTH, OUT OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOOK [Christians and Jews], until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and THEY ARE IN A STATE OF SUBJECTION. (9:29)

    O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination. (9:73)

    O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). (9:123)

    I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)


    O YOU WHO BELIEVE! DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS FOR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER; AND WHOEVER AMONGST YOU TAKES THEM FOR A FRIEND, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM; SURELY ALLAH DOES NOT GUIDE THE UNJUST PEOPLE. (5:49-51)

    The punishment of those who pit themselves against Allah and His Messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, except those who repent before you have them in your power (5:33-34)

    Believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god: far be it from his glory that He should have a son. (4:171)


     THAT YOU MIGHT BE ALL ALIKE; THEREFORE TAKE  NOT FROM AMONG THEM FRIENDS UNTIL THEY FLY THEIR HOMES IN ALLAH'S WAY; BUT IF THEY TURN BACK, THEN SEIZE THEM AND KILL THEM WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE NOT FROM AMONG THEM A FRIEND OR A HELPER. (4:89)

    As for those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the punishment (4:56)

    Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah - they shall have a severe punishment; and Allah is Mighty, the lord of retribution. (3:4)

    Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says, None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)" (Hadith 4:52:196)

     

    Allah's Apostles said, "When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder," 'Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, "How is faith taken away from him?" He said, Like this," by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, "But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again. (Hadith 8:82:800e:) [So, with the clap of a hand, they can do whatever they want?]

    The Prophet said, "The one who commits an illegal sexual intercourse is not a believer at the time of committing illegal sexual intercourse and a thief is not a believer at the time of committing theft and a drinker of alcoholic drink is not a believer at the time of drinking. Yet, (the gate of) repentance is open thereafter." (Hadith 8:82:801)

    (Isolated incident) ...then prostrated himself, and all who were with him prostrated too. But an old man took a handful of dust and touched his forehead with it saying, "This is sufficient for me." Later on I saw him killed as an infidel. (Hadith 5:59:311)

  • falaksher786 said on Dec 01, 2006....
    Very Nice Phyxius I am really pround of you.You have such a vast knowledge of Islam (Mashallah) We say it when we are very proud of some body & I am really proud of you but all of these topics are relevant to (Gaza) fights held between Muslims & Nonmuslims.Now When you read Quran & beleive me by all my heart I respect you because you have read Quran Now what can be more beautiful to hear than this.Again these Aiyat (verse) which you have taken are just a little part of the whole Aiyat this is not a complete Aiyat.Allah Tallah send it to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) when there was need of fight not for fun nor there were any orders by Allah Tallah to get the sword & start killing people who were non muslims because if Islam was preached by sword then there would not have been any muslims.Now a days Islam is the most accepted religion in the world you know why because of very beautiful & very very intelligent people like you.who ask questions & give reasons & other people also start to get involve & start to read & study Islam.Then they see that it is not like what media represent it.They get involve in it & more they get involve in it more they understand it.
    Now if start to write about each & every Verse of Quran which you have written than there can be books on each & every one on them seperately because they represent years & years of history.Elsevice in short

    + ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)

    Brother what is wrong with this if u will do something wrong you will get punishment.Allah Say respest women,respect children,respect your elders,give charity say your prayers,help others,dont do sins,dont drink alchohol as it make your senses weak because when we are drunk we get involve into very disapponting behaviour.We all know most of the rapes & unexpected pregnancy happen when we are not completely in our senses or drunk.If my father wittness me doing something wrong he says stop or I will punish you then I dont see any problem in it.If Allah Subanah Tallah say

    ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)

    then it does not mean disbeleivers are those who are non muslims or who dont beleive in Islam.It means people who dont follow the path or instructions given by Allah Tallah to do right things.

    + O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred... (8:65)

    Now what can be more beautiful than this.by Prophet means Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH).In one of the gazwa (fights) there were only about a handfull of Muslims at war against nonmuslims & the fight started because they accepted Islam.Allah Tallah said to Prophet that urge the people who have accepted Islam to fight & protect them self.Any one will give the same order.If their are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundread is used to give them confident & they did overcome.It is a psychological effect.

    +And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)

    It is about those people who said that they were muslims but they did not accept it by heart.Allah Tallah ordered to elaminate them as they (gibat) make each other fight & use wrong statment behind their back.So Allah ordered so that there should be no conflist left muslims only follow relegion.

    +When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them (9:5)

    There was a time when people started to hide so that they donot have to give charity people who can afford charity(Zakat).So orders were passed to follow these people & ambush them & capture them until they repent (ask for forgivness) & become believer They were already beleivers, nonmuslims were not chased or asked for charity.

    +Believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Thee. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god: far be it from his glory that He should have a son. (4:171)

    Yes Allah Tallah doesnot have a son.

    +Allah's Apostles said, "When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder," 'Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, "How is faith taken away from him?" He said, Like this," by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, "But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again. (Hadith 8:82:800e:) [So, with the clap of a hand, they can do whatever they want?]

    This is incomplete I will study it myself or you must have done some mistake in writting it.

    +The Prophet said, "The one who commits an illegal sexual intercourse is not a believer at the time of committing illegal sexual intercourse and a thief is not a believer at the time of committing theft and a drinker of alcoholic drink is not a believer at the time of drinking. Yet, (the gate of) repentance is open thereafter." (Hadith 8:82:801)

    Yes for those who repent for forgivness.haha polite smile from me to you brother.

    +(Isolated incident) ...then prostrated himself, and all who were with him prostrated too. But an old man took a handful of dust and touched his forehead with it saying, "This is sufficient for me." Later on I saw him killed as an infidel. (Hadith 5:59:311)

    Plz print the complete incident. At the end brother I am not a scholar ask the scholars they will provide you with far better information than me & we can always present a two sides of a thing right.Its always upon us to be the right path choser & make the right choice.I will invite everyone to study Quran not to find verses of fights or things like these but to see what it is about.There is a saying

    "Mal tay akh wich hondi ai"

    Mal meaning (sin or bad things), tay means (is) , akh means (eye) ,wich hondi ai means (in the) .

    Sin is in the eye. 

  • falaksher786 said on Dec 01, 2006....
    http://asimiqbal.2.googlepages.com/ These are some useful links.I am leaving for sometime maybe I will not be able to answer ur question for some time.Allah Protect you always my friends especially phyxius.Amen
  • phyxius_has_risen said on Dec 01, 2006....
    First of all you are a nice person and I respect you. Second thing is I never ask you any questions. Third what I post is pretty clear and don't need alot of explanation. As far a complete they come directly from the texr of the Quran and I cross checked them with multiple translations. Since I won't see you again take this is where I will leave it.
  • Bluesnake said on Dec 01, 2006....
    Now in the first place, why are there such terrified wordings in the Quran (whatever your interpretation is)... that is scary! I have a friend, who did some studies on the Quran (some sort of theologist student), he said the same thing to me as what 'phyxius_has_risen' has written above. I thought my friend was just exaggerating until I read the above. No wonder there are people out there who wrongly interprets the wordings in the Quran and start killing people. If such wordings do not exist, I believe the 9-11 incident would not have happened. I'm still shaken by the video showing the slaying of the innocent Korean man who was sawed alive by the Iraqi militants.
  • bloc2 said on Dec 01, 2006....
    hi phyx, please delete this after you read it. I had no other way to communicate with you. I wish you hadn't blocked me because I've enjoyed reading most of your posts and find them intelligent and interesting. I know we disagreed here, but I don't think I said anything warranting a block.
  • phyxius_has_risen said on Dec 01, 2006....
    bloc i am going to unblock you I don't mind a good discussion. Just so you know I like to stick with the the subject that I write about.
  • falaksher786 said on Dec 01, 2006....
    Aslam Alikum It is a way of greeting.Next thing as I have told all you before brother that Quran has lot other things whcih is not about killing or about nonmuslims.The verses of holy Quran which you have taken is completely irelevant to the whole Ayat (Verse).Blue Snake plz read it your self as I know we all have a very busy schdule but plz never beleve something until you have wittnessed it your self.About 9/11 go to www.loosechange.com Things are not always as they seem.The Bible has also verses like these.
  • kelly said on Dec 01, 2006....
    OK, just to be sure, are you positive that Khomeini actually wrote these things? They sound more like things the CIA would put out to discredit him because they are so completely idiotic as to be pretty much unbelievable. I generally find religious discussions to be a ridiculous waste of time, but this is more about womens rights and protection of children than anything else.
  • kelly said on Dec 02, 2006....
    Could someone explain this "PBUH" thing as well? Thank you.
  • bloc said on Dec 02, 2006....
    thanks phy, I'll make a post about the tangent I went off on earlier so it doesn't take your post off in a different direction.

    I think that Khomeini and islam are two different things. If khomeini is an idiot it doesn't mean that islam is bad.

    I think the koran quotes are nutty, but I think the same about most religions.

    Please delete that other comment of mine :)
  • hotaka said on Dec 02, 2006....
    It seems almost any religious text includes both charity and murder. And they all claim to be written by God. Anything can be taken out of context and used to justify horrible acts. "It's in the book, which was written by God, therefore I am justified." I think most people have a sense of what is right and wrong. By writing something and saying it's God's word we permit obscenities to be justified. I think we can all agree that selfish acts do no good; that killing brings only sadness; and sex is not something to be perverted by molesting animals and children. I don't care who wrote it. I don't believe that God would really permit it in any religion.
  • queenparanoia said on Dec 02, 2006....
    oh dear why do we always talked about death, war and not about peace or love? just give love. and peace be with you all. the holidays are coming so please stop it guys. whatever religion we are, we are all the same. we all worship the same GOD. muslim, christian, jews, and other religions. does it matter if we have all different views about GOD? i hope that we could all respect and understand each other. peace.
  • phyxius_has_risen said on Dec 02, 2006....

    falaksher786 The topic here is "Ayatollah Khomeini and the Filth of Islam" NOT the Quran and 9/11 so please keep on the topic. There will be a day I will discuss the Quran and 9/11 and would love to discuss those issues with you.

    kelly this information was brought to my attention by a former former Muslim, who was drawn to the "religion of peace." Until that person discovered the truth about the religion. The person wishes to remain anonymous, for death is the punishment for apostates and those who speak ill of Islam…… "PBUH" means Peace Be Upon Him

    bloc I am sorry for what happened and your always welcome to comment on my blog and if we ever have a disagreement again you can contact me at phyxius_has_risen@yahoo.com and I would be more than happy to discuss it with you.

    hotaka God would never allow it in any true religion.

    queenparanoia I am getting ready to add some more to my other story we can get back to some enjoyment there..

  • hotaka said on Dec 03, 2006....
    I enjoyed the comments and the information shared in this posting. It was good to hear more about the Quran as explained by someone of the Islamic faith, even if the discussion ran a little off the rails.
  • StupidGenius said on Jul 17, 2007....
    This guy is simply a pedophille who happens to be muslim or whatever. He is a freak and needs to be castrated. If I met him and knew who he was I would proberbly kill him dead in the street and serve my time in prison with a smile on my face.
     
    SG

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