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From the beginning of our history in Genesis, it seems that God’s intention was that a man has only one wife. Yet in history, we see that God sometimes condoned, or allowed without reproof, men having a plurality of wives and concubines. Now this brings us to the debate.

 

Anti-Polygamists say...

Polygamists support abuse.
Polygamy is for underage marriage.
Polygamy hurts women.
Plural marriage is immoral.
Polygamy re-defines marriage.

 

Pro-Polygamists say...

Polygamists oppose abuse.
Polygamy is only for consenting-adults.
Polygamy can benefit women.
Plural marriage is scriptural.
Polygamy historically outdates anti-polygamy.

 

My feeling is that if everyone agrees and children are not the ones being married who cares what they do. People can live with and sleep with as many people as they want already. If for some reason the whole group of them is crazy enough to want a legal and lasting commitment, then I say go for it.



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  • silverwhisper said on Nov 28, 2006....
    phyxius: i happen to think that people should be allowed to enter into whatever personal arrangements they like so long as they aren't hurting anybody and it's done through informed consent.

    ed
  • phyxius_has_risen said on Nov 28, 2006....
    Your right silver I agree with you 100%. Like I said if children are not involved and everyone consents, have a blast.
  • danetteb said on Nov 28, 2006....
    I'm sorry I don't quiet agree.  But that might just mean that I'm really conservative.  I believe one woman per man is the only way to go.  Someone is bound to get hurt if there should be more than one man or woman involved - plus its against  my moral values and beliefs.  :)

  • danetteb said on Nov 28, 2006....
    I'm sorry I don't quiet agree.  But that might just mean that I'm really conservative.  I believe one woman per man is the only way to go.  Someone is bound to get hurt if there should be more than one man or woman involved - plus its against  my moral values and beliefs.  :)

  • phyxius_has_risen said on Nov 28, 2006....
    Hi danetteb, I respect your opinion and feel that same way as far as the way I live. However, if someone else chooses to live different than me and no one gets hurt its fine by me.
  • curmudgeon said on Nov 28, 2006....
    One woman in my life is quite enough for me. But hey, if someone else can afford it, what the heck?
     
    What will be interesting is mixed polyamorous marriages - two men to one woman, three men together, three women together, four people all married to each other...
     
    Just think about the divorce lawyers and judges trying to untie knots like those! :-)
     
    I might be making light of this a bit, but if we open the door to one, we can't really shut it on the others. I say if it works for you, go forth and do it.
  • kruuyai said on Nov 28, 2006....
    I agree that people should be allowed to make their own decisions about their personal lives.  And like phyxius said, people can have as many relationships as they want to in their lives anyway, so who cares if they decide to formalize it?  I wonder, though, why it always seems to be that polygamy usually refers to one man and many women.  I'd be more happy with the idea if everyone were free to choose.  I do like the idea of living in community.  Blurring the marriage lines could really enable a greater sense of connectedness among the members of a small community. 
  • ALIENated said on Nov 28, 2006....
    Hey, the Demoncrats are about to take over so we will probably have gay marriage pretty soon (I told you so), why not polygamy? I am thinking of marrying my dog. I need her on my medical insurance. Have you been to a vet lately? That is so much more important than the fabric of our society. God used to allow His people to totally wipe out groups that were their enemies. Can we go back to that too?
  • NobodySpecial said on Nov 28, 2006....
    ALIENated- I think that you're confusing your beliefs for the fabric of society. If I'm not mistaken, the fabric of our society is the freedom for others to make their own decisions as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. Give me one good reason why polygamy shouldn't be allowed that doesn't stem from religion.
  • ALIENated said on Nov 28, 2006....
    You know, you are absolutely right. There are probably no reasons that do not come from the Bible. But then again, why would I care about any of those reasons? My point is, keep electing the people that will allow stuff like this (Democrats) and pretty soon the laws will be changed to allow it. Just try not to cry when all the stuff you do not approve of becomes legal. Once you start rolling down a hill, you eventually hit bottom, which is where our society is headed. This site looks like is has a lot of links to pro and con polygamy sites.

    http://www.squidoo.com/antipolygamy

    Maybe they can explain it to you.
  • silverwhisper said on Nov 29, 2006....
    i find it frustrating that you never seem to articulate an actual argument on this matter, alienated.

    ed
  • ALIENated said on Nov 29, 2006....
    What is to argue? This is another one of those things that you either take God's word for it or not. If you have no belief in God, then you will probably be all for it. It is another one of those deals, like being gay, that we, as humans, can only judge on a case by case basis. We can only see specific cases. God sees what happens in general and makes a ruling.
  • silverwhisper said on Nov 29, 2006....
    i disagree that it's that simple, alienated: there are christians who do not oppose those things. heck, i know a UMC minister who supported gay marriage.

    ed
  • ALIENated said on Nov 29, 2006....
    Only because they do not know the Bible and have turned their backs on God. The Bible says in Genesis, the very first book of the Bible, "for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh". It is like most sin (polygamy is basically adultry), people can make it work, but societies cannot. I saw a program on some cable channel a while back about polygamy. One family was basically a guy who tired of his older wives and kept adding a new, younger woman every so many years. What man would not go for that?

    My test for about any subject is based on the fact that God and Satan disagree on everything. I try to imagine which one would be for the given subject and which one would be against the given subject. Polygamy is another way of messing up marriage so I figure Satan would be all for it. Consequently, I figure God would be against it (as indicated in the Bible). The same goes for gay marriage. I prefer to be on God's side. Again, if one does not believe in God this arguement makes no sense, but I could care less. I am not trying to impress people who do not believe in God. I am trying to impress Him as best I can. Those who do not believe in Him are also impressing Him in their own way.
  • phyxius_has_risen said on Nov 30, 2006....

    Alienated your right it does say that in Genesis however, as time went on and things changed it would seem God started supporting it. In the book of 2 Samuel 12:7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul. 12: 8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."

     

    I do not really think this has anything to do with God or Satin, I really think the problem with this is that God is not clear on what we are to do.

  • silverwhisper said on Nov 30, 2006....
    alienated: the problem w/ your approach is that it insists that all christians must believe precisely as you do and that's demonstrably untrue.

    ed
  • ALIENated said on Dec 03, 2006....
    What has satin got to do with anything? (I know, it was a typo.) Hey, I am all for multiple wives. I even wrote a post that I am looking for fourteen wives ...

    http://www.soulcast.com/post/show/30406/Fourteen-Wives---Apply-Within

    I think I read somewhere, maybe on one of those sites I pointed to above, that God did not really condone all the wives that David, Solomon, etc., had. Polygamy certainly did not survive as a practice among the nation of Israel. I would think if they thought it was OK, then every jewish guy would have several wives. I have to say I have always been confused by the polygamy in the old testament, but never really studied it much. I figure if we, as a nation, get into that we will see whether it is good or bad. Remember the doctor on the latest Star Trek. He had several wives and his wives each had several husbands--double polygamy. Only fair I guess. Just imagine the idiots running around that planet as everyone was probably marrying a relative and did not even know it. I saw a TV show about polygamy and they mentioned that as well--all the retards being produced by men marrying their neices and crap like that. I figure that is the real danger. God invented this machine we call a body and He knows what is best for it. My theory is: go with the Bible and someday the brainiac scientists will figure out why it is right after all their stupid attempts fail.
  • silverwhisper said on Dec 03, 2006....
    well, if god created the body and the mind, surely god also gave us the power to choose for ourselves what we wanted to do w/ these things. but here's the thing: it doesn't really matter if that is/isn't what god wants, b/c matters of law are not based on either your or my beliefs.

    ed
  • ALIENated said on Dec 03, 2006....
    You are correct. And as long as women have the vote, polygamy will probably never be anything more than a topic for debate. There are more women than men voters, right? Plus, most of the men would vote against it as well. And, yes, I am assuming most women would not vote for it. Ladies, am I right or wrong?
  • mkw05001 said on Nov 28, 2007....
    Marriage? The definition of what consitutes marriage is becoming more blurred as our diverse society pushes the traditional limits...

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