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Do you believe in collective dreaming? By that, I mean different people, who don’t know each other, dreaming roughly the same thing at roughly the same time, the theory being that there is a collective consciousness that expresses itself sometimes in our dreams. An example would be all the people who dreamed about tidal waves or tsunamis shortly before the big one hit southeast Asia a couple of years ago.

Well, I had a dream… (in my mind, I’m waiting for my “emergency contact”, the one I mentioned in What Is Home?, to chime in with I had a dream… in his best Martin Luther King imitation. He always did that, and it drove me crazy, and now, here I am filling it in for him). OK, sorry about that digression.

I had a dream, sometime between March 8 and October 30, 2005, that I believe may have been a collective dream, because I shared it with my wise neighbor, the one who gave me the Eeyore pencils (see What Winnie-the-Pooh Character Do You Identify With?), who also does dream interpretations. She gave me her take on the dream, which I’ll share in a minute, and then about two weeks later, she told me about an email that she had gotten from a friend that I don’t know, that was very similar to mine.

She introduced me to the idea of collective dreaming, and this dream was so powerful for me that I’d like to share it in the hopes of finding out if any of you has had a similar dream during the same time period (sorry I can’t narrow it down more than that. I don’t have all of my dream journals with me). I’d also appreciate any interpretations that any of you may have for this dream. So, here’s the dream:

I was wandering around in the parking lot of an elegant nursing home with white columns. Somebody started talking to me about an elderly woman that I could visit and take care of if I wanted to… that it would really mean a lot to her. I was undecided about whether I wanted to take the task on or not. Part of me would have liked to have done it, but most of me really wasn’t interested.

Later, I was in a Mexican market, and there was an old, wrinkled crone sitting on an overturned wooden crate. I sat on another crate next to her, and was enjoying being in her presence. There was something special about this woman. I knew that she was very wise. After a while, her husband walked by. He was as old and wrinkled as she was. The woman asked her husband if she could sleep with him that night. She wanted to make love to him. He agreed.

I thought to myself that she must really love him a lot, because he wasn’t a good looking man any more. Not someone that most women would want to sleep with.  I was also impressed that she had initiated sex, because women of her generation didn’t usually do that. 

After the husband left, the woman and I went for a walk out onto the plains, and she turned into a vaca brava… the type of cow that is used to breed the bulls that are used for bullfighting.  They are sleek and muscular, and more aggressive than any bull I’ve ever seen.  We continued our walk together, and met up with her husband who had turned into a bull.  The bull was gathering with some other friends who were also bulls, and over the horizon, we could see another herd of bulls quickly approaching. 

There was a bloody war between the two herds of bulls, and the vaca brava and I were in the middle of it.  The vaca’s husband was killed in the clash, and she and I made a break for it.  We ran away as fast as we could in the direction of the market.  At one point, I thought about hopping on her back, because she could run faster than I could, but it just seemed like it would be so disrespectful, so I didn’t. 

When I got back to the market, I had lost track of the vaca brava, but there was a station wagon ready to take me away.  I jumped in the back of the station wagon.  A friend of mine was sitting back there, too.  We shut the door, and the unknown driver drove off.  I commented that it was a good thing that we had packed our bags before, because there wouldn’t have been time to pack them while we were making our escape.

We drove away into the countryside (in the opposite direction of the skirmish), and followed alongside a broad river valley with lots of green everywhere.  We were going to try to make it up to Wisconsin to buy parts for a computer.  As we were driving along, I suddenly remembered the vaca brava.  I asked my friend,

“What ever happened to _____?”  I could tell that she didn’t want to tell me, so I told her,

“I don’t think she’d mind if I knew where she went.  She just didn’t have time to tell me.”

My friend said, “She went to Texas.”

“Texas?  Why Texas?”

“She said that she thought the people were nice there.”

“In Texas?  Maybe in New Mexico…”

END OF DREAM

When I shared this dream with my friend, she interpreted it on a purely personal level.  I had two men in my life at the time, and there was some vying for my attention… she thought it was significant that one of my boyfriends was a Taurus, that sort of thing. 

Then, a couple of weeks later, she got that email from a friend, as I mentioned above.  In his dream, he also accompanied a cow (I’m not sure any more if it was a vaca brava) to a prairie, and there was a skirmish between two herds of bulls in which an important bull was killed, and he and the cow ran away from the scene of the battle together.  The main difference between his dream and mine was that he did ride the cow away and I only thought about it but didn’t do it out of respect.

So, here are three questions:

1) Have you had a similar dream, and if so, when?

2) What is your interpretation of this dream on a more universal level?

3) Have you had any other experiences with collective dreaming that you would like to share?



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  • pixilatedcowboy said on Nov 27, 2006....
    I must admit I've never had that particular dream,but reading your description of it, I can sure imagine it.Oh btw the common thread on your songs is love lost and denied
     
    Later
     
    Cowboy
  • kruuyai said on Nov 27, 2006....
    Pixilated... 5 points for you!  You are good!
  • GalyaMarchioness said on Nov 27, 2006....
    Well, because I had such a strange dream last night, I really want to share it...so this is how I remember. I recall a group of children standing around in a circle getting pumped up before an assembly by their teacher, they were shouting, I was on a college campus.....but then, the next thing I remember, I had a view of the sky, and someone was describing to me what was happening....in that this huge black clouded storm was going to be coming over a range of mountains, reaching from the West to the East coast and it was going to be HUGE, and Dark and then the next scene was there were little cansisters shooting out of the clouds and in each canister was a baby alien...and they were dropping to the earth........it was kinda weird.....What do you think?
  • kruuyai said on Nov 28, 2006....
    Gayla... sounds to me like you're about to give birth to something (an idea, a piece of creative art, etc.) that will affect your entire world.  What have you got on the burner?
  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on Nov 28, 2006....
    Gutend Abend Kruuyai!
     
    Pardon me, I just want to earmark this post and comeback later.
     
    I´m not sure if it´s my laptop or SoulCast but I´m having difficulty editing.   I´ll just wait it out a bit. 
     
    Bis gleich!
    Paper
     
    P.S. No offence ment to anyone; please indulge me, I´m just so happy about "it"
     
    Omigosh, Darf ich Du sagen? Du sprichst Deutsch!!  Vor einem Monat, habe ich gewünscht, daß hier jemand ist der Deutsch spricht! Ausgezeichnet...einfach coooool!!!
  • kruuyai said on Nov 28, 2006....
    Paper,  Ja, ich kann etwas Deutsch sprechen, und ich wohne jetzt nur zwei Stunden von Deutschland entfernt, und ich mochte mit jemand Deutsch uben, weil ich es verbessern muss, aber als ich in Deutschland reise, sprechen Alle mit mir nur Englisch, und das frustriert mich so!  Entschuldige dass ich kein umlaut benutzt habe, aber ich weiss nicht wie ein umlaut in diesem Ort zu machen.  Und ja... klar... du kannst mir Du sagen.  :)
     
    Tschuss
  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on Nov 28, 2006....

    Nochmals hallo Kruuyai!

    Ich werde ein blog eröffnen - Dialog, dann können wir auf Deutsch "unterhalten", wenn Du möchtest?

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    After reading this blog, dear K, the first thing that came to my mind was Dr. Joseph Murphy and his book  The Power of your Sub-Conscious.

    The second thing that came to mind are snippets of dialogues - from years ago, with friends from college who all told me, at different times and individually, how they dreamt about me while I was working in U.A.E and was in some level in grave danger.

    To answer your questions,

    1. I have not had the same dream

    2. I am unable to make an interpretation at this point because my mind is a bit restless and cannot focus properly.  And I want to give a proper answer. Tomorrow, perhaps will be better.

    3. I have a vague memory, and I need to consult my old journals for this to be 100% factual. 

    As I´ve mentioned above it could have happened 13 years ago - I apologize, if it seems vague

    What I remember was all my family and very close friends from college were very sceptic of my plans to work in an Arab country.  I came from a predominantly Catholic culture and you´re reared with the belief in prayers.

    And yes, everyone said as I came home that they dreamt about me and prayed for me because in their dreams I was in danger. 

    One dream I remembered in that time and can never forget is dreaming about my youngest brother being involved in a fight where someone stabbed him with a knife.  I woke up with tears in my eyes and instantly called home.  I learned  then that my grandfather has been dead for more than 2 weeks and they didn´t tell me for fear of upsetting me.

    I use to record dreams as well.  Maybe I should do so again.

    Paper

  • kruuyai said on Nov 28, 2006....

    Paper, that was really a powerful dream leading you to the news about your grandfather's death.  It really does show the power of the subconscious.  I find dream recording to be an invaluable part of my life.  (and time-consuming).  After my last cat died (we had been together for 17 years), I went back and looked at my dream journal.  I could see that, on a subconscious level, I was very aware that she was going to die, but I was really in denial.  I kept thinking she was going to last another three years.  But I had so many dreams about her being in grave danger... having to rescue her from volcanoes, snakes, other cats, etc.  At the same time, my other two cats, already departed, were visiting me in my dreams and their presence came through much more strongly than the cat who was still alive.  I should have known that she was getting weaker.

    Thanks for the book recommendation.  I'm always looking for good material on both dreams and the subconscious mind.  I'll have to look it up.

    And Dialog is a good idea.  You'll have to make a brief comment with it on one of my blogs or else I won't know how to connect with it.

  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on Nov 28, 2006....
    Here is the link K:
     
     
    You could also check on the left side of your screen where it says, Who is reading kruuyai, and just like you said you click on the name of the blogger and it will bring you all the posts of the said blogger.
     
    Paper~
     
    P.S. I´m still up because my little girl is sick :  (
     
    Paper~

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