i was talking to my college friend who is a girl. after the discussions of study, she suddenly declared that she is pregnant.
and she wanted to get aborted rather than carrying the child. i
asked, "didnt u know that u would be pregnant ?" she said "Of
course !".
i said "then why is this?"
she just smiled looked elsewhere, wiping her brow. i didnt say
any thing. i didnt even ask who was the father of the fetus.
two days later, i was informed that she got aborted and i went to see her in the hospital.
"when did they do it?" i asked. "two hours ago" she said.
i sat there for a while without saying any thing and came out and stood
near the compound wall looking around and i found a little grown fetus
in the gutter. i was shocked and awe-stricken.
it was still red, i could see the shape of the head, hands and legs.
it was lying the gutter half drowned in the dirty water, flies and mosquitoes sitting all over the fetus.
i was depressed to see it like that and that evening i wrote a poem to vent my pain.
what do u feel about Abortions ? is it feticide or a convenience for career, extended pleasure or ???
whether it is before marrieage or after marriage.....
leave alone the LAW.
its the opinion that counts.
pls do comment without using explicit language..
funfreak2k2 posted on Nov 12, 2006
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SeanRenaud said on Nov 12, 2006....
Its both murder and its convienent. I still support it whole heartedly as a choice that people should have open to them. -
gingersoul said on Nov 12, 2006....
Funfreak.....This is the most discussed and emotional topic ever.It always splits the opinions in black and white.I have to admit that during these years i have softened my initial one dimensional opinion about it. I went for "The body is mine and nobody has to tell me what to do with it" whitout giving it a second thought to a position in which i would figth to give each and any single woman the right to abort without any judgement AND trying to be more tolerant of other opinions as well.Abortion is never easy. We have to start from here.People who think women go to have an abortion like going to the mall have a distort vision of the reality and like to think in cliche'.Abortion leaves you emotional scars, sometime for ever. And might leave psysical scars too. Its not a walk in the park, like many would like to think.The reason for abortion can be the most different: ignorance, young age, shame, poverty, irresponsability, loneliness.Reasons doesnt really count. Because even for the most stupid one i will always fight to give that woman the rigth to receive a professional help. Even if i might not find her reason plausibile i will still fight to give her that right. Because thousands of other women in her same situation but with more difficult contest must have it and they dont't need this right to be opposed or subdolely inficied by laws.Abortion is indeed stopping the growth of a life. We cant hide this reality.But when abortion is performed at a very early stage that life is only potentiality.That life has not event the conciousness of being life. It doesnt suffer, it doesn feel. What you saw in the gutter was a grown up fetus, remember.Can we still calling this a murder?A lot of peole think no.A lot of people tend to be realistic and think that abortion is indeed a sign of an imperfect society. And the only winning game is prevention and information. Sexual education in the school (the many conservative and religiuos movements oppose) as soon as possible. Facilities in which the women can go without the fear of being photographed and exposed to pubblic shame or where the doctors who perform this practice don't have to fear for their own life.(and sometime being killed). It means teaching tolerance in the discussion and application of the laws. Make it accessible to every woman without torturing burocratic process (they do it to make the woman think about her choice or to scare her?) .Where any woman would be informed and given an option (birth controls and so on)abortion should decrease in numbers. Yet, you say, your friend knew she had option. It was simply a short cut for her?She only knows it.For me, its unbelievable that in 2006 women had still to abort. It means that the premises of the law that defend this right have failed BUT need to be improved not abolished (making the use of the pill of the day after, ad example, more accepted ).I am sorry for your friend. I am sorry for your confusion.Abortion is a dramatic event in a woman life.You might think is a spoiled society one that permits and absolve this practice.I think the old motto 'The body is mine" is still valid. But we should evolve it in the way to say " The body is mine and i will do everything to keep it in the way i want it". This means protecting it from indesirable pregnancies.It seems there are two rights fighting: the right of the potentiality of life and the rht of the woman who started the potentiality.I dont see the dicotomy, though.I had an abortion when i was young. I never felt a spoiled brat with better option going to abort only because it was easier. I did feel irresponsible. I should have taken the consequences of my choices more seriously.I am not a believer. So i know that my decision has been easier than women who are religious. That might be a horrible position to be, i agree, but even religious women have abortions. They always did it in the past and they continue to do it now. And what about the doctors who perform abortions.? One might ask: shouldn't doctore safe lives instead than opposing to life?The fact is these doctors have seen the horror of malpractices, the pain of the women, the tears and the anger. I agree that are several facilities that help mothers to take care of their babies after birth if the mom still can't or don't want to raise her child. But from the moment of the potentiality to the moment of birth there are 9 long months. Who is going to help that mother?Sorry for the long comment. -
momsrock said on Nov 12, 2006....
I don't agree with how the remains were disposed of in your situation, but I do believe it is a woman's choice. Yes, there are plenty of options for prevention. But, when given the statistics of 96% effective or 99.7% effective you hear it and never think you will get pregnant. The reality is those statistics are only valid if the controceptive is used correctly.I am married with two children. My oldest son has cerebral palsy so I was offered genetic testing for my second child. It was offered early so I could abort the pregnancy if there were any health problems, whether genetic or not. Can you imagine trying to care for two sick children? Or the amount of money it would require to give them the medical care they would need? I should have that right. I didn't exercise it, but I'm glad I had it!I see a lot of children who could have avoided a life of pain, abuse, neglect and drug withdraw had the mother aborted. Some of those children will never recover physically, mentally or emotionally and I think that is even worse. I would rather see what you saw, than see a newborn baby laying in that gutter because the mother couldn't afford an abortion. -
SeanRenaud said on Nov 12, 2006....
Go Moms! -
momsrock said on Nov 12, 2006....
Gingersoul said most of what I was going to say... LOL! -
SeanRenaud said on Nov 12, 2006....
Your's was short and to the point. I got bored halfway through Gingers. -
the_infernal_optimist said on Nov 12, 2006....
Without debating or delving into legal stuff, I'll say that personally, I believe that it's murder.
I was supposed to be aborted, so maybe I feel more strongly than some. I'm glad my mom is pro-life, or I wouldn't be here to tick you off/entertain with my comments. ;-)
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momsrock said on Nov 12, 2006....
We're glad she is pro-life too! :) I agree, It would set a dangerous precedent... -
Expendable said on Nov 12, 2006....
Do you think pregnancy is easy? Have you any idea of the stress and strain a growing fetus has on the mother? Especially for a woman on her own?Do you think abortion is easy? Knowing that within you was life, your child? -
SeanRenaud said on Nov 12, 2006....
Yes all pro-lifers think it is easy. Honestly some of us pro-choicers think its got to be easier than the other option anyway particularly for many single poor women. -
momsrock said on Nov 13, 2006....
I think we should be thankful when someone is alive that wasn't going to be. Whether it was because of a last minute decision not to have an abortion or because they survived a disease that should have killed them. Especially when we have enjoyed reading their posts on SC. That's all I was saying... -
Cotterall_and_Michelle_Adams said on Nov 13, 2006....
I believe in a woman's right to choose. If a girl is going to college, wants to travel and isn't interested in having the father of the child in her life, she has a right to end the pregnancy during the first trimester. Actually, it is very common for women close to menopause to get pregnant and then seek an abortion. I could see why a woman with two or three teenagers, heading into her forties and fifties, would not want another child. There are medical, psychological, personal, financial and romantic concerns to consider. What if the girl wants to marry the guy but he is not ready to be a father and she is willing to wait? What if she is on welfare, unemployed, has diabetes or hepatitis, a drug problem or is in an abusive relationship? Who are we to judge? It is better than abused, HIV-positive, abandoned children in foster care and orphanages. There are older kids and disabled kids that are waiting to be adopted. Do pro-lifers plan on taking one of them into their homes? What about the food supply and overpopulation? -
Cotterall_and_Michelle_Adams said on Nov 13, 2006....
I do not agree with aborting a fetus for reasons that approximate social eugenics. We are not supposed to support biological engineering as a society. If you did not want a second child, you shouldn't have gotten pregnant. To have an abortion due to a child's disability when you knew you ran the risk of passing on cerebral palsy is callous, to say the least. Don't get pregnant if you don't want to take that chance. -
bullblogg said on Nov 13, 2006....
i dont agree with abortions whatsoever- there are plenty of other choices the mother can make-if they cant afford a baby-adoption-if they were raped-adpotion-there,in my opinion is no reason to have an abortion. it is something,that for once,i agree with the catholic church-pro life. having said that, i would never be nasty to any woman who had an abortion,i dont think its an easy decision and god bless her for facing such a hard decision. in my country abortion is still illegal-and thats the way we like it.
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welcomeman said on Nov 13, 2006....
Your view is very good.
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momsrock said on Nov 13, 2006....
Cotterall and Michelle Adams: You should pay more attention to what you are reading. I already said I didn't take that option. And cerebral palsy is not genetic. It was due to a botched delivery that caused brain damage. Genetic testing was offered to make sure there was nothing wrong with a second child. That is common practice when something is wrong with the first child. -
PAPERBACKWRITER said on Nov 13, 2006....
Hello funfreak,
I know you want me to comment, and since you nicely asked, I want to tell you I read your blog and the previous comments before me.
With this said, I hope you will respect my decision not to comment.
I would have left you a message elsewhere;since I´m linked here, I´ll just leave my comment here to simplify.
paper
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missb said on Nov 13, 2006....
Personally, I'm pro-choice. But it still saddens me to know the fact that there are so many children are being aborted everyday.But I'd like to believe that those women who did had strong reasons to do that.Cheers :) -
missfickle said on Nov 13, 2006....
FF: Did you really find the fetus in the gutter?Where are you for Gods sake, outer mongolia! (sorry to any mongolians) who would dump a fetus in the gutter?In the UK every aborted fetus has to be stored no matter what gestation the woman was at the time of the abortion. This has been so since 2003, and is something to do with allowing mothers the chance to destroy the remains themselves if they wish to. 99.9% of the mothers do not wish to, they allow the hospital to dispose of the remains.Most abortion are carried out before 12 wks, and most women do not make the decision lightly, they suffer for the rest of their lives. However many women are fully aware that bringing a child into this ridiculous world can be crueller, than aborting life before it starts. -
funfreak2k2 said on Nov 13, 2006....
thank u everybody for posting ur views about abortions here. pls let me reply to some :
Ginger : yes, u r right in saying that every woman who thinks about abortions needs a professional help. it is true that abortion leaves a scar on the woman, i dont want imagine about that. coz, even though i was an outsider, i was so disturbed about her decision, i dare not imagine what had passed on my friend.
Moms Rock : Abortions on medical grounds can be considered positively coz this involves the bearer of the womb and the one in the womb. this cannot be named brutal. it shows ur courage and maturity in not taking the offer of abortion. u r gr8.
the infernal optimist : its ur mother that is infernal optimist !! she is really gr8. Glad to have u here .
miss fickle : i did see that fetus in the gutter. i am not lying. sorry i cant disclose my location .
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missfickle said on Nov 14, 2006....
well that is disgusting! -
opinionman said on Nov 20, 2006....
This is a very touchy subject. One on which I have much to say. So instead of taking up too much space here, go to my blog and read my response. -
whoisit4 said on Dec 07, 2006....
Last resort for a non-viable fetus or the life of the mother. Otherwise, murder.
Yes, I'm pro-life, but I know that pregancies are not easy. It's the way of things. This is why pregnant mothers need all the support we can give them, especially if they don't have a stable home to bring the child up in.
My wife's best friend's parents forced her to have an abortion. This is certainly NOT pro-choice. They killed their grandchild against their daughter's will because they feared the shame of it. Their actions were more shameful than their daughter having a child out of wedlock and illustrate one of the many abuses of the abortion industry.
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SeanRenaud said on Dec 07, 2006....
That is not an abuse of the abortion industry. To even suggest otherwise is so blatant a lie that it boggles belief. You might as well blame it that murder on religion or tradition and claim that traditions are inherently evil. I hope most of your arguments are built on firmer ground than that. -
whoisit4 said on Dec 08, 2006....
Sorry, SR, I should have been clearer. The definition of "industry" I intended is a broad one that includes such aspects as the customers to whom the industry markets its services. Rest assured that abortion is marketed albeit not in the common commercial sense. In this respect one could say that the marketing abuse is akin to the tobacco companies marketing to children that was addressed a decade or two ago. I'm not saying that there is necessarily a devious intent, but that the nature of the politics to which the marketing is tied is such that necessary safeguards cannot be put in place to prevent this sort of thing from happening. Therefore, the abuse stems from more of a systematic problem of the industry.
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