I have been seeing so many posts today relating to the death sentence allegedly imposed upon Saddam Hussein that have prompted me to post this.
Death by hanging…Is it appropriate?
For raping and killing many women and children, I think the bastard should be castrated.
For murdering thousands of people, I believe he should be executed.
However, being the compassionate and nice guy that I am, I think he should be given a choice in his manner of death.
Confused? Let me explain…
I think that Saddam should be taken to an abandoned, windowless barn on a sparse piece of land.
He should be brought up very close a table that is secured to the floor, and told to lay his cock n’ balls on it. Then, he should have a nail bent over them (to firmly hold them in place).
Gasoline or some other accelerant should be poured about the barn, especially in Hussein’s immediate area. With one hand handcuffed behind his back, he should be handed a sharp hunting knife, and told to “make a choice.”
Then the building should be set on fire, and the doors locked.
Armed with assault rifles, federal agents should monitor the progress from a safe distance.
Frlncwrtr posted on Nov 05, 2006
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silverwhisper said on Nov 06, 2006....
now freelance: you know that a court of law isn't going to be a particularly fun vehicle for revenge. :>
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
No SW, that is true! Isn't it a shame?
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FaithfulDisciple said on Nov 06, 2006....
I'd say he's better of alive than dead. While locked up in isolation (solitary confinement) without any human communication at all, it won't be long before he contemplates suicide. Alone, he will be experiencing sleepless nights to be haunted by the innocent ghosts of those whom he murdered. Remember Hitler, it's the easiest way out for a troubled man with a troubled conscience.
Saddam committing his own personal suicide; is the more humane and sane option than death by hanging. That way, his death can't be utilized as a rallying point for any political agenda by any interested party. -
missb said on Nov 06, 2006....
LOL :DYour execution sounds worse than the hanging :)The truth is, when I read that he's gonna be sentenced by hanging, the first thought that came to mind was; hanging? that sounds a bit medieval. Why not by gun?Anyway, I kinda agree with FD. Death is just making it easier for him. He should be prisoned for life, preferably in an american prison :)Cheers! -
curmudgeon said on Nov 06, 2006....
It's up to the Iraqi People to determine the method. All forms of execution are brutal, but if hanging is what Iraqi Law now mandates, then that's that.The reality of the "life in prison" punishment is that there is still contact with the outside world. Here in the U.S., gang leaders living out life sentences still run their operations even from solitary confinement. Were Saddam sentenced to life, there would always be the possibility of his supporters mounting a coup. While he is alive, there is the hope that he will return.Martyrs eventually become memories. Imprisoned leaders become collateral over which terrorists negotiate through hijackings, bombings and assassinations. In the grand scheme of things, Saddam is probably better off dead. -
Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
FaithfulDisciple:
I agree that isolation, while in solitary confinement would be a good punishment.
Regarding Hitler's demise, and it being the easiest way out for a troubled man with a
troubled conscience, I don't believe that even innocent ghosts of his murdered victims
would be able to haunt or cause a man WITHOUT a conscience, such as Hussein, to have
sleepless nights.
Furthermore, I was really not thinking about humane options at all when it comes to
Saddam committing his own personal suicide.
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
missb,
Although I understand your point, I do believe that even life in prison would be too good for a man of Hussein's caliber. He is the purest form of evil, and evil should be banished from the earth, but not with out a little torture first (as he's dealt to others), followed by a very horrible death.
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
Curmudgreon:
I understand that what is mandated by Iraqi law will be. But, that is not what my question
was. What I asked is whether Death by Hanging is the appropriate method of death for
Saddam Hussein.
After serving in law enforcement for nearly 20 years, I am well aware of the goings-on in prison.
Therefore, I am in complete agreement that not Saddam, but, society is better off with Saddam
being dead!
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CreativeWoman said on Nov 06, 2006....
I think that Saddam is a madman. I also think that God will give him what he deserves when he reaches the other side by whatever means it takes to get him there.
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bloc said on Nov 06, 2006....
"Were Saddam sentenced to life, there would always be the possibility of his supporters mounting a coup."
We could put him in one of our secret black prisons or in gitmo. I doubt he'd have contact with the outside world!
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Apollo said on Nov 06, 2006....
He should die and only die. I have to say that all that torture, vengeance and what not; it is simply wasteful and stupid. I challenge someone to show me one good thing that would come from revenge. I know there is an example to be made, but I think that the price of revenge torture is too high in this case. Why waste recourses torturing or imprisoning him? Kill him and be done with it, the world will not be better for his pain. No one will come back to life, no scars will go away.
Stretching his neck will be enough. Personally if I was going to be killed, I would go for a firing squad. It has class, substance, dignity and you die standing.
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Melkor said on Nov 06, 2006....
Be careful that you do not become the monster that you seek to destroy.
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
CW: You are absolutely correct, Saddam is a madman.
"God will give him what he deserves when he reaches the other side by whatever means it takes
to get him there," I agree. But it would be so nice to give him a little of his own medicine first.
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
bloc: True about the coup!
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
Apollo: True that he should die.
Wasteful and Stupid? I'll accept your challenge to show you one good thing that would come
from revenge. Reason - personal satisfaction! There's nothing better than that, and therefore,
it is one good reason.
How can the price of revenge torture be too high in this case. There is no reason for imprisoning
him, it is a waste of money! As far as the cost to torture him, I don't think you would have to pay battle-worn marines a cent to torture him.
Have a nice day!
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bloc said on Nov 06, 2006....
I think FaithfulDisciple's point is spot on. I was being a bit ironic about the black sites and gitmo.
Sticking a torturer into a place where we've actively tortured people and calling it justice seemed ironic to me ;)
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
Melkor: How quickly we forget what terrible crimes that these evil creatures have done to people. You remind me of one of these sappy ball-less judges!
Be careful that I do not become the monster that I seek to destroy? There's NOT a chance in the world of THAT. I do NOT rape women, or children! Other than paying back someone who is in desperate
need of it, I do not torture people either!
I suppose you want to pull out of Iraq too? Well, if we do, then beware of who is in your back yard for we will NEVER be safe from these thugs!
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Melkor said on Nov 06, 2006....
You completely miss the lessons of people like Hitler or Saddam Hussein if you just view them as evil monsters separate from humanity. The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. You HAVE to remember that they are human beings, nothing more, and nothing less. You have to remember what we as humans are capable of, or you fall into the same trap they did.
Reread your plans for torturing Saddam and tell me that a good man would do that to someone, anyone. You do not lessen the evils of the world by perpetuating your own, no matter who you are doing it to.
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
bloc: I reiterate my comment to FaithfulDisciple!
I agree that isolation, while in solitary confinement would be a good punishment.
Regarding Hitler's demise, and it being the easiest way out for a troubled man with a
troubled conscience, I don't believe that even innocent ghosts of his murdered victims
would be able to haunt or cause a man WITHOUT a conscience, such as Hussein, to have
sleepless nights.
Furthermore, I was really not thinking about humane options at all when it comes to
Saddam committing his own personal suicide.
I'll add that I personally couldn't care less about hamanity when it comes to this
useless creature!
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
Melkor:
Remember, I was not the one to call him a monster!. You were, "Be careful that you do not
become the monster that you seek to destroy," so make up your mind instead of writing things
that simply suit you at the time of writing.
As far as the hearts of all human beings, you forget that Hussein is a heartless bastard, and YES,
YOU HAVE to remember that he is far less than a human being. I will never fall into the same trap
as these murderous rapists!
Btw, I'll bet that you are the kind that would quickly change opinions if YOUR own daughter were raped, tortured, and murdered by these creeps!
I did reread my plans for torturing Saddam, and I'm telling you that I do not profess to be a good man, however I am not an evil murderous rapist.
The only point of yours that I agree with is, "You do not lessen the evils of the world by perpetuating your own, no matter who you are doing it to." But, oh how satisfying it would be, and oh, how many lives will be saved by it!
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Melkor said on Nov 06, 2006....
I may refer to him as monster by his actions, but he's still a human being
Do you know how Hitler justified killing the Jews? By thinking of them as less than human. And now you are doing what to Saddam? I think you have already fallen into the trap.
I would like to think that I wouldn't call for torture and death for anyone, no matter the circumstance. In the case that I'm overcome by emotion in a particular situation, I would hope that the society around me does the right thing instead of trying to satisfy any sense of revenge on my part.
"Satisfaction" won't bring back the dead, and I don't think Saddam is going to be killing anyone else anymore no matter whether he is sentenced to life imprisonment or to death.
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
Melkor:
You may refer to him as anything you wish, but I refer to him as a less than human monster, which by the way is directly related to his actions.
I really do not care what Hitler’s reasons were because this is not about him. However, I am not talking about murdering massive numbers of innocent people, simply by classifying them as less than human. I’m talking about 1 useless piece of scum that inhabits the earth without purpose.
So, YOU miss the point, I have not fallen into any trap! But, I cannot help but to think that someone, such as you, who is so strongly defending this scum, must be somewhat like him!
Maybe you would like to think that you that you wouldn't call for torture and death for anyone, no matter the circumstance. In the case that you are overcome by emotion in a particular situation, you may hope that the society around you does the right thing instead of trying to satisfy any sense of revenge on your part, but you cannot guarantee what YOUR reaction would be.
So, if you react in the manner discussed, you are no better than I am. That brings me to this point, I never said that I would commit this act upon Hussein, but merely said that I think that it’s what he deserves!
True that, "satisfaction" won't bring back the dead, but then nothing else will either, Also you are correct in that Saddam isn’t going to be killing anyone else anymore, so I erred on THAT one!
Now, “Go back to school little starling, fly, fly, fly…fly, fly, fly….”
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xerendipity said on Nov 06, 2006....
Well, it's better to punish him slowly (but intense pain) leading to death! wahahahahaha!U knw, little by little his breath fades away until the last air drops from his nostrils.Killing him that way would give him much agony, pain, embarrassment! And he could recall those stupid things he has done!Mind thinking of excruciating ripping of his skin little by little? Pulling his hairs one by one. Pounding his teeth one by one. duh, all those stuff. That's worth dying for him! -
suppiaya said on Nov 06, 2006....
Well, he have to face the consequences for torturing the innocent people. He can'trunaway from the Law, as there's no second thoughts, he deserve this judgmentKnowingly or unknowing he was doing endless crime and destroying. -
Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
xerendipity: Thank you! I've finally encountered some one with a brain! :)
(Have you seen the morons that I've had to deal with?)
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 06, 2006....
suppiaya:
I'll first have to say, that to commit horrible crimes as he did, there's no unknowingly about it!
True, he cannot run away from the law, but then again he doesn't need too. He is supposed to hang for his crimes. I think that hanging is a little too good for him.
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MissMimi said on Nov 07, 2006....
I need to say first that normally I am not in favor of the death penalty. Having said that, there are on occasion people who are monstrous enough that I don't lose any sleep over their deaths. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite, but there you have it. -
Apollo said on Nov 07, 2006....
frlncwrtr,
Have a nice day?
When ever I see marines of the republic that would be happy to torture someone for no other purpose then revenge, then personally that ruins my day. Any one so battle hardened that they get their kicks from hurting someone for the sake of hurting; well I would say that they are to battle hardened. I suppose I will be called weak for saying that, that would be a first for me.
You take personal satisfaction from watching a person suffer, no profit, no information, not even a confession just that fact that you can torture is enough for you. He is evil; he should die with out a doubt. But I what good thing will come from torturing him? Maybe you think pointless pain, mindless suffering are good things but if doing what he did is “good” then why torture such a “good man”? I hurt my enemy for a reason; to teach them not to attack me. I exact retribution for a reason; to take what was stolen. But in the end, if I can avoid hurting one with out doing some evil then I will. Torturing will get nothing back, and if he dies anyway why teach him anything. If you really get personal satisfaction from hurting someone, for no logical reason. Well, you’re in numerous company saddam Hussein included. But you can stay the hell away from me, I don’t want to be the next source of you personal satisfaction, I carry but I won’t torture you.
Moron (Apollo)
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 08, 2006....
Hey MissMimi!
First I must say that while I respect your decision not to support the Death Penalty,
I normally do support it.
You are right; some people are so far out there that it leaves little room for pity or concern.
I wouldn’t say that you are a hypocrite, just someone who only believes in the Death
Penalty. So there YOU have it! :)
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 08, 2006....
Bloc: Of course we keep mentioning Saddam Hussein’s torturing people! That is more
or less what this post is about, isn’t it?
You wonder how I "feel about Bush promoting torture by Americans and legalizing it?" First of
all the post is about Saddam Hussein, not President George Bush.
If you cannot follow the conversation, you’ll have to go sit at the kiddie table. According to Silver Whisper, this is called spam, so I am going to delete your comment! If there is another occurrence,
I’ll have to block the bloc!
Perhaps if you are seeking opinions regarding President Bush’s promotions and policies, you should make a post of your own on the subject.But, first I would suggest that you research your facts!
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 08, 2006....
Apollo:
I am sooo sorry that your fanaticism has prevented you from my wish for you, to "Have a nice day!"
I noticed that you signed at the bottom of this…Moron (Apollo). Thank you for explaining this to
me. Your writing has actually proved that you really are a moron!
In your opening, you wrote "When ever I see marines of the republic that would be happy to
torture someone for no other purpose then (than) revenge, then personally that ruins my day (so
sorry to hear that you take it so personally). You should seek professional help for this!)
I’m sorry to inform you that in this situation, the correct spelling is Whenever. This spelling applies to the first word in the first 2 paragraphs. Also, in the second paragraph. "Any one," should not be capitalized and is spelled anyone.
Furthermore, when I said, "I don't think you would have to pay battle-worn marines a cent to torture him," I never mentioned to what degree the marines would be battle-worn, or battle hardened, did I? So, your statement that they "are to battle hardened, is irrelevant." By the way, "to is spelled too in this case.
"When ever Any one so battle hardened that they get their kicks from hurting someone for the sake of hurting; well I would say that they are to battle hardened. I suppose I will be called weak for saying that, that would be a first for me."
Also, I did not call you weak. I called you a moron!
This is --- not a sentence!
"If you really get personal satisfaction from hurting someone for no logical reason."
I never said that I had intentions of "watching a person suffer," (not that I classify Hussein as a human being anyway), nor did I have intentions of being the cause of the torture. Therefore, the alleged fact that I can torture being enough for me, is irrelevant!
I did not say any good would come from torturing him, but it sure would make a lot of people feel good.
Stay the hell away from you?
You can count on it!
You’ve got a hell of a lot of nerve coming to my blog (I did not go to yours), and then telling me to stay the hell away from you, you self righteous son of a bitch!
Come back again, Moron (Apollo), and I’ll block your ass!
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bloc said on Nov 08, 2006....
@frlncwrtr
Sorry, I find the dichotomy interesting. It's fascinating that people can be so quick to condemn one person and yet so easily give a pass to another person for doing similar things.
p.s. - I know my facts very very well.
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 08, 2006....
Bloc:
I really hope you are able to read this because I am sooo happy that you find the dichotomy
interesting!
If you are referring to my actions of deleting your last comment, but not deleting Apollo’s last
comment, you can stop worrying now, Apollo will be blocked (as you are now) as soon he
posts another comment.
If you are referring to your comment about President Bush, I guess you still don’t get it so I will
spell it out for you in easy to understand terms.
This post was about SADDAM HUSSEIN, not President Bush! See the title, Today’s Posts
about Saddam Hussein Prompted Me to Write This.
Comments (including your last one) about anything else are considered Spam!
Are you getting it yet??? If not, it’s not my problem because I really don’t give a damn about you,
your elitist libertarian bullshit, or Saddam Hussein.
I don’t know where you are from, but if you are from the U.S. and are not happy with the country,
then get the fuck out!
Otherwise, you and the rest of the fanatics will just have to learn to be more tolerant of other
people’s opinions.
Sorry that I had to block you bloc, but I don’t like Spam and I have zero tolerance for
liberals, and their fanatical ways.
Cheers!
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Ormocanon said on Nov 11, 2006....
That's an interesting post frlncwrtr, by the way, how about if they just tie him up in an anthill, with his pants down? ...that way the ants get to decide when they'd finish him off.
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silverwhisper said on Nov 11, 2006....
freelance, if you didn't delete any of bloc's comments, i'm having great difficulty understanding why you banned bloc. i see nothing whatsoever that's objectionable in bloc's posts.
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 11, 2006....
Ormocanon: Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the read.
Thant's a great idea you've come up with!
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 11, 2006....
We’ll SW, that’s because I DID delete his objectionable crap, useless babbles of typed diarrhea coming from the finger tips of one bloc(khead). As long as he remains as such he’ll remain blocked.
You'll notice in one of my comments of 3 days ago, that I did give him a fair warning before doing so, but to no avail. In my comment, I also said that I was deleting his comment, which I did! My comment to him is the one beginning with, "Bloc: Of course we keep mentioning Saddam Hussein's torturing people." I guess he didn't get it.
I don't make a hbit of blocking people, SW. In fact, he is the first and only one, ever. (I never did block Apollo as I said I would because the discussion ended there)
Hopefully, I will not have to block anyone else, but I really doubt it. Until this day I had not had a problem with anyone here at Soulcast, and really don’t expect another. But, you know how things go, everywhere, there has to be 1 or 2 that stand out from the rest.
Right now, he continues to stand, ‘out!’
FLW
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silverwhisper said on Nov 11, 2006....
[shrug]
that must've been an especially atypical exchange you guys had.
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 11, 2006....
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suppiaya said on Nov 12, 2006....
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 14, 2006....
suppiaya: Thank you! I thought so too!It appears that your whole comment did not appear on the page because there is a comma after comment. Is that just an error, or am I missing part of your comment? -
mincazz said on Nov 21, 2006....
He should be nailed to a wall and left to die
all the people that are around him can be allowed to deficate freely on him
he should be tortured slowly
he should witness everything bad that he has done
he should be made to vistit hospitals where people have only one leg or arm
he should dig a trench and be buried to the head
if he is just hung , This will only make him a king , in the eyes of people that believe his heartless lies .
No hanging is not enough
it is a big mistake
huge
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Frlncwrtr said on Nov 23, 2006....
Mincazz:
Thanks for stopping by! I'm sorry that I didn't get back to you sooner, but I missed the email notification.
Anyway, you have great ideas! I would only add one thing, after you said, "he should dig a trench and be buried to the head," I like the idea of someone passing through with a lawn mower or roto-tiller.
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suppiaya said on Nov 24, 2006....
Well, Every one has the own view of points, I think the law shouldknow what to do. -
Frlncwrtr said on Nov 25, 2006....
Yes suppiaya, the law should.
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suppiaya said on Nov 26, 2006....
He deserve! -
suppiaya said on Nov 26, 2006....
Yup, good to know, you feel the same way. Cheers Sue -
Frlncwrtr said on Nov 26, 2006....
Yes, I do agree!
He is most deserving of what little the law will do to him. It does not compare to what he has done to others.
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suppiaya said on Nov 26, 2006....
Absolutely, Rules and regulations are strictly to be follow by Law,nothing much we can do about it, instead we can share ouropinion to one another. As for Saddam perspective, he feels thatwhat he done is right but thru the eye of law and people views,it's ridiculors and great torture for innocents that he should get extrapunishement to kill the innocent. -
Frlncwrtr said on Nov 26, 2006....
Yes, he should definitely get more punishment for his actions.
I do find it very hard to believe he that he feels he was right in his actions. I mean, on what planet is raping and killing women and children seen as the 'right' thing to do?
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suppiaya said on Nov 27, 2006....
What to do, there are some animal like him existing in this cruel world. -
Frlncwrtr said on Nov 27, 2006....
Perhaps an eye for an eye? But then, he only has two eyes, what next? -
suppiaya said on Nov 28, 2006....
Ha ha.......Good Question, "what next"..no want can predict
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