• SeanRenaud said on Nov 02, 2006....

  What is Atheism?  The belief that there is no higher power.  It is often coupled with humanism
  Who are Atheists?  People who believe there is no higher power.
  What do Atheist believe?  Things happen for a reason, there is no just because.  We might not know why yet but there is a why.
  What is the definition of Atheism?  That there is no greater power.
  Atheism vs. Agnosticism: Whats the difference?  Agnostics are more polite.  Technically they are defined as someone who cannot prove the existance of God.  By the dictionary definition every single human being on this planet is an Agnostic as nobody can prove the existance of god.
  Does atheism require faith?  Not really you don't need to believe in Evolution, the Big Bang of the Origin of Life  You can say that all three of these are to flawed to be considered solid ideas if you like. 
  Is Atheism a religion?  If you which to call it such
   
  Because we believe that people who believe in God are destroying the world brick by brick and we don't want to let you.  So we struggle to inform you of a better way so that you can help us move forward.  We don't want to face the sad truth that nothing will ever bring you forward to help us and that it is your purpose in existance to hinder progress.  (or your a halfie who are destructive in their own ways)
   
  I have read it and studied it by the way.

• tlj2442 said on Nov 03, 2006....

  I already knew the answers to my questions. You may have read it and studied it but you miss the most important thing living it. Your heart is harden to God so you will not hear his call. And it is you who is destroying the world brick by brick. The darkness in your heart will one day reflect the darkness in your life. I am sorry that at one point in time in your life, you may have heard God's call but you walked away. There will come a day when all heads will bow before God. And we will all be judged. I will be judged for my deeds and my life and I hope God finds favor with me. So until that day I will live everyday seeking His salvation. My job as a servant of God is to draw people to him not drive them away. Remember God has a way of proving himself even to people like you. Voltaire believed that the bible would cease to exist in his lifetime. After his death the New International Version of the Bilble ( the publishers) bought his home in France and made it his head quarters.  Yes we are enemies. I lived 27 years in the dark not wanting to hear God. I was mad at him, myself and my family. I know what it is like to have a hard heart and to believe I could do everything myself and live my life my way but I can tell you it does not work. Who will you turn to when things go bad? And they do. Who will you cry to when you feel your heart is breaking? And it will. What I offer to this world is Hope. By mee helping to spread God's word I can give someone hope. What can you give them?

• SeanRenaud said on Nov 03, 2006....

  Something better than hope.  I bring with me purpose, reason and self worth.  When things go bad I turn to my friends and we solve it and sometimes I have to ignore shit until it goes away.  What do I do when my heart is breaking I find the root of the problem and fix it.  When that doesn't work a pint of something usually speeds the healing process along.

• bloc said on Nov 03, 2006....

  What hope did God bring the dead in New Orleans! Hope that isn't any better than the hope I have without God.
  

• tlj2442 said on Nov 06, 2006....

  Bloc.
  It has taken me a couple of days to answer your response. I know you find it hard to believe that the Hand of God is and was in New Orleans. New Orleans had become a wicked place, I know because I lived there before the storm. I lost my apartment, some of my belongs to looters, friends I haven't seen since the storm and a friend of mine lost her brother down there the days after the storm. I was not saved before the storm either. I was 5 1/2  months pregnant, alone and scared. At 42 years of age I was going to give birth to a child. I was astranged from my family. We hadn't gotten alone in 27 years. because I was a lesbian. Well on August 28, 2005. My life changed. I had to live with my parents. I had to get a new doctor. I had to find a new place to live. At this point in time I had no hope. Just like thousand of others that came out of New Orleans.  Well my son was supposed to be born, with birth defects and /or brain damage. I was very scared. My sister found me an apartment / townhouse to live and I found a new doctor. I also made it through living with my parents for 45 days. It was not easy. I am grateful though. After all of this I had a life changing moment. I asked God if he could bring my child into this world healthy I would turn my life over to him and I did. I have a very healthy baby boy who will be a year old next month. I found hope In God. So have alot of other people. It took a disater for many of us to find hope. If you have a bible read Jeremiah 11. It talks about destroying Israel because of its wickedness. New Orleans was wicked. I know a lot of people do not want to hear that but it is true. I was wicked, that is true. I found hope but most of all God found me. God found many people after the storm. I hope one day He finds you.

• bloc said on Nov 06, 2006....

  I can't believe in a God that would kill innocent people because they happened to be born in a "wicked" place. There were children killed in New Orleans!
  
  I'm very glad that you've found happiness, but I do not see your God leading to my well being.
  

• tlj2442 said on Nov 06, 2006....

  I am sorry that you think that just because a child dies there is no God. My bible (New International Version Quest study Bible1994 )ask the question "Why does God allow innocent children to suffer. This is its answer: All people--including children--are born into sin(Romans5:12). The sin of Adam and Eve infected each succeeding generation, leading to the suffering and consequences that sin produces. While these children had not participated in the specific sins that incited God's wrath, they were not themselves sinless.     
   
  Unfortunately, children often suffer for thier parent's actions--whether they are crack babies, adult children of alcoholics or teens of emotionally absent parents. In the same way, children, as members of a community, share in the benefits or consequences of that community's actions, even though they had nothing to do with the decision. In many countries, children are the victims of the older generation's war and terrorism.
   
  Some insist that no one but God can be ultimately responsible for such suffering, and perhaps these are the feelings behind Jeremiah's honest but bitter complaints (Lamentations 2:19-20). Yet God never wanted anyone to suffer. Death is the natural result of sin (Romans 6:23) Judah could only blames herself.
   
   
   

• SeanRenaud said on Nov 06, 2006....

  Wow, so worshiping a mass murderer is ok because its our fault?  Brilliant.  I think I like Nazi's better I mean they pretty much follow the same ignorant idea.  Nothing we could possibly do would justify the destruction of an entire city.  NOTHING I don't care if every woman was a whore and every man was abusive, it wouldn't make Katrina ok.
   
  Maybe if it was a war since I'm not against the dropping ot the atomic bomb but of course then we were working with real people under real conditions and they knew what to do to make it stop and had the shoe been on the ovher foot  we would have known what to do to make them stop.  This is akin to (if a video game were "real") reseting it because you didn't like the result. 
   
  So by your logic God is pretty much  programmer, he made a world of course he'd like it to be perfect but when all is said and done  he doesn't really care about us.  He claims to sure, but he has such "limitless, boundless, uncomprehensible" love that includes mass murder and eventually the near destruction of the world to convince us to do things his way rather than the way we want. 
   
  Fuck that.  I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.

• bloc said on Nov 06, 2006....

  "Unfortunately, children often suffer for thier parent's actions--whether they are crack babies, adult children of alcoholics or teens of emotionally absent parents. In the same way, children, as members of a community, share in the benefits or consequences of that community's actions, even though they had nothing to do with the decision. In many countries, children are the victims of the older generation's war and terrorism."
  
  This makes perfect sense to me. You lose me when you say that God caused katrina to punish people. That is not the type of God I could believe in nor does it make any sense to me.

• tlj2442 said on Nov 06, 2006....

  New International Version Quest Bible Study 1994
   
  How can we hope in a God who abandons us?
   
  Jeremiah steadfastly recognized that the Lord had not abandon his people, painful as the present situation was. Jeremiah, the weeping prophet, is also called the prophet of hope because he foresaw a day when the Lord would reign in the midst of a restored, renewed and reconciled people.
   
  Jesus knew this paradox between abandonment and hope. In the midst of his suffering and death on the cross, he cried, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? (Matt. 27:46). Yet he also knew that he would be resurrected on the third day, opening the gate of eternal life to all believers. The despair of the cross now has become the gift of life to perishing sinners.
   
  Abandoment, sorrow, stuggle and pain all are transsitory. Wholeness, healing joy and peace are permanent, for they are part of the very nature of God. That is what sustains the believer through difficult times. Although jeremiah grieved over Jerusalem's destruction, he knew God would prevail.

• SeanRenaud said on Nov 06, 2006....

  Honestly bloc everytime you respond to him at this point you justify his way of thinking be engaging him in inteligent debate.  With any luck he can be treated like Freddy Krueger, if we ignore enough stupid it will fade away into nothing.

• tlj2442 said on Nov 06, 2006....

  New International Version Quest Study Bible 1994
   
  Why does God send calamity?
   
  All of this world's suffering can be traced back to one tragic event---the disobedience of Adam and Eve (Gen. 3:6-7). Consequently, sin and its result----suffering and evil----entered the world. But God's hands were not tied as a result.
   
  In working out his purposes, God often uses suffering to discipline us. When the people sinned defiantly, God wreaked havoc by raining catastrophe upon them. God was not capricious or whimsical. Their sin had to be punished; God's holiness demanded it. When they refused to repent, only suffering remained as a way to bring them to repentance.
   
  Not all suffering, though can be traced to specific sin. some disasters are the indirect results of a broken world. Certain weather patterns can form a tornado that strikes a city---destroying the property and lives of believers and non believers alike. Highs and lows are a part of the atomsphere; when they collide, destruction is inevitable.
   
  While appearing to be senseless, disasters can have meaning. Suffering can pry our attention away from the trivial to the eternal, from amikng money and acquiring possessions to our relationship with God. Pain can be an effective tool to raise our sights to God's level and cause us to live more like Christ.
   
  I believe that God has his hands on everything that happens on this earth no matter how large or small.

• tlj2442 said on Nov 06, 2006....

  Sean
   
  One day we will both fade away. Only God will remain. I hope I am with him in heaven. I will seek my salvation everyday that I live. I once told you that we are enemies. We are, but I am taught to love my enemies (Matthew 5:44). He also teaches us --- Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when he stumbles, do not let your heart rejoice, or the Lord will see and dis approve and turn his wrath away from him ( Proverbs 24:17). I do not know what God has instore for you.  I am told in Revelations 20:11-15.
   
  Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and the books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life.  The dead were judged according to what they had done as recored in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
   

• SeanRenaud said on Nov 06, 2006....

  I make no such fatal error as loving my enemies.
   
  Damn I'm justifying his existance too. 

• tlj2442 said on Nov 06, 2006....

  Sean
   
  I wish I knew what causes you so much pain and anguish. Emptiness is a very lonely feeling. There is not enough alcohol on this planet to make it go away. Friends leave or they just get bored form listening to your problems day end and day out. God will never leave you. I use to think that I was as tough as you, but I was wrong. I was weak. A weak mind and heart. John Piper ( Pastor at Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota) writes in his book Desiring God  a passage on "Weaning Chritians off the Breast of Self Reliance". God warns us about self-reliance through out the bible. All of us struggle with the sin of self reliance believers and non believers. For your souls' sake please do not mock God.

• SeanRenaud said on Nov 06, 2006....

  I know your weak.  Its just unfortunate that your weakness is not only contagious but dangerous.  I'm no where near empty by the way, your the shell.  Your the empty one with no self worth.  Your the pox of the earth.  Atleast your nuts enough that most of the others won't believe you.

• tlj2442 said on Nov 06, 2006....

  People like you Sean do not bother me. You choose to be cold when it comes to God. It is the ones who talk as if they know God but do not know nothing of him, they do more harm. Like I stated before I can not change anyone. Only God can. I will not judge you , I will not be angry with you, nor will I hate you. I have to worry about my own salvation. As servant of God I will try an lead others to him.
   
  1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do it with gentleness and respect.
   
  I find that others here like to fight and argue with you and you feed into it and they do to. I am not here to do that. Most of what you say is to get a reaction out of someone and you do a good job of it. I wish you well on your journey through life.

• bloc said on Nov 07, 2006....

  I refuse to read comments where more than 50% of the comment is bold.
  

• tlj2442 said on Nov 08, 2006....

  Sean
  I forgive you for your insults and ridicule.
   
  Matthew 6:14-15
   
  For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forigive not their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. 
   
  bloc,
   
  To each his own.

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