fellow soulcasters,
i got this message from "anonymous" and i wonder who else got a similar message. it goes --
hello friends
In order to find out Adsense ready web sites I have
surfed the web a lot and i have found a website that
pays you even if your ads are not clicked.This site shares
its ad revenue with users.Its completely FREE to join.and you start earning within Hours of using the site.
ITS FAR BETTER THAN ADSENSE AND SOULCAST
Register:
HERE
who are these people?
would you abandon soulcast and migrate to another community which pays better?
The page you were looking for no longer exists
quidnunc posted on Oct 05, 2006
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SaraAnnSpirit said on Oct 05, 2006....
Hey
Well let me know when you find out! I am so very new to all of this and aren't even sure if I will get by adsense! LOL!! thanks for subscribing!
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labyrinth said on Oct 05, 2006....
I find it rude when people advertise through our posts. What made it worse is they commented anonymously.
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thenack said on Oct 05, 2006....
I must say I think it is in bad taste to place such comments if the topic is not about adsense or bloging. Personally I would like to make money quicker, but ANONAMOUS should then write a blog on this great knew site.
Thenack
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quidnunc said on Oct 05, 2006....
Sara, many of our fellow soulcasters always have a healthy guide and recommendations to newbies like you. sure, i will advise you about anything i will know about.
and you're welcome!
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quidnunc said on Oct 05, 2006....
lab and thenack: i felt quite offended actually that Anonymous had to advertise in such a manner. i have not actually clicked on the recommended site that is why i cannot comment on it yet.
i wonder who else experienced this so-called intrusion...
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RollingC said on Oct 05, 2006....
sounds to me like spaming...
hey, no matter...I am now a millionare...I just won the lotto and a mysterious inheritance somewhere in the Congo or thereabouts...
wasn't it nice of them to find me and tell me that?
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thenack said on Oct 05, 2006....
HaHa Rolin, Just remember to pay the $10000 postage fee and they will send your cheque right over right?
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quidnunc said on Oct 05, 2006....
it was spamming, indeed, RollingC. that is why i got irked by it...
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anonymous said on Oct 05, 2006....
quid: this is silver. i'm commenting anonymously on purpose. please take this opportunity to block the user. this jackass is showing up everywhere.
ed
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quidnunc said on Oct 05, 2006....
thank you, ed!
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quidnunc said on Oct 05, 2006....
what the hell is happening to the title of this post?!
i have written a complaint to SoulCast about the matter.
the original title of this post contains the words "better than SoulCast"... is it offensive or negative at all?
assuming for the sake of argument that it is, at the very least, the next time SC edits our titles, they should at least make sure we do not end up looking or sounding stupid with our written work!
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silverwhisper said on Oct 05, 2006....
it's too damned long, probably. or possibly, the " character was a problem.
ed
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quidnunc said on Oct 05, 2006....
i just checked it out. finally, the complete title is already reflected... the complaint i posted will be deleted, in fairness to SC.
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hotaka said on Oct 05, 2006....
I already spend too much time on SoulCast for my own good. I blame all the great people here for keeping me interested. How could I keep up another blog in a blogging community? I have this one and a private one that friends view. That is enough. Even now I don't have enough time to spend on everyone as I'd like. I like the people on SoulCast. I don't care about making money from blogging.
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Taffy000 said on Oct 05, 2006....
Hum, I'm beginning to wonder if there is a better site at all? In answer to the question, in a heartbeat. I'd try the other site. Since I only found Soulcast yesterday & I've met some great people already I'd stay here too & give the other site a chance.
If I have my reading comprehension correct you have to make $100 to get paid from Adsense. That's a ton of money. I know of other sites that pay you when your total is $5. I'll write about those. Hey, tell me via email where that other site is.
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InterplanetJanet said on Oct 05, 2006....
If you found the "spam" so offensive, why did you repost it? Now it is a featured post, and the spammer wins because everyone will see his ad. You should delete this post, the posts by the spammer, and block him. Don't give him what he wants. Why would you think this is the appropriate course of action?
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RollingC said on Oct 05, 2006....
thenack: ..wow...10000 postage fee?...all they wanted from me was my bank acct # that's all. And social, and dob, and a couple of other things... but hey...it's the thought that counts right? I feel safe knowing it's there for me... :)
yea right !
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missb said on Oct 05, 2006....
Blahh...I don't think there's anything else as great as soulcast :)
That's just one of the spams that usually go straight to your junk mail.
Long live soulcast!
Hmm, the editing is a bit dodgy, though :/
Cheers!
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aeschylus said on Oct 05, 2006....
Hmmm...
I often forget that some people are here for the Adsense, either for both or for the Adsense alone. What's going to happen when Adsense crashes?
I'm with you hotaka. I don't blog here for any money. Frankly, I don't blog anywhere for any advertiser. On my own sites I sometimes will put up an ad or promote something specific because I use it or trust it, but otherwise it's not even barely lucrative to me, especially when one considers the time and effort to do all that is required to maintain such account(s). I'm too lazy to do that much work for someone else.
It might be a perception of width versus depth? My theory is I can promote one or two things really well, and gain repeat business, and earn more than if I just throw a lot out there and maybe make a dollar or two that never multiplies or grows. Oh well.
I grew up in a farming community. All the farmers knew that they had to rotate crops in the fields, and leave a field empty at least every several years or based on the crop or it would never grow a crop properly again. Actually, as a kid, we enjoyed it most of the time because most farmers would plant a "non-paying" crop if they had time to do it. (We all knew who planted watermelons!)
Even that backfired one year though. My dad got angry at one piece of land he had been having problems with anything! growing properly on. One day he had a bunch of yellow squash seeds left over from a prior year, and he had already decided to leave that acre empty, so he went out on a walk and threw those seeds everywhere!
My brothers still can't stand to look at, smell, or EAT! yellow squash! Took a long time to get rid of that crop and it was a lot! LOL
Oh well, we all have different approaches and at least there aren't any flashing graphics coming from ads on this site, or I wouldn't be here simply for trying to dodge the ads.
aeschylus
bai ming sheng
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willbrich said on Oct 05, 2006....
I'll stay here!
I'm also on another blog site but people don't talk with each other like what we do here. We have a GREAT community here!
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bigbluesky said on Oct 05, 2006....
i agree with willbrich...i'm new here and i find soulcast to be good place to clear my thoughts...we do have great community here..so i'll be staying
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gingersoul said on Oct 05, 2006....
I agree with hotaka, willbrich and missb....
i am already blogging and reading way too much here to have even the time to go open another blog somewhere else....
bigbluesky.......welcome aboard....you will discover pretty soon why many at SC have so few time for other places.....there is a lot of interesting people here.....see you around! :-)
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Apollo said on Oct 05, 2006....
This place has value.
I don’t plan on going anywhere.
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JadeLondon said on Oct 05, 2006....
Quid:
Well, considering I don't make a cent from this, I cannot say I would make the switch for (love or) money.
I haven't received that message, but this is the first time I have posted in a few days.
I think it is rude to do that. I hate it even more when they provide you with links to where you cannot see the http address.
Silver: Why did you feel the need to comment anonymously? Enlighten this ignorant soul.
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silverwhisper said on Oct 05, 2006....
jade: you can only block an anonymous commenter if there's an anonymous comment to block.
ed
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totally_cd said on Oct 05, 2006....
yun igan natin missing quid! i have this funny feeling na cya yon. hahaha! sana i am wrong!
and what is wrong with that naman. others might find that to their liking. this is a free country(?)!
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004275 said on Oct 05, 2006....
What's program to make big earning?
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aeschylus said on Oct 05, 2006....
004275 ...
Why don't you contact VisionRee, the company who owns or promotes (or whatever they do) Soulcast.
I've seen their offers on employment boards and such, offering to pay people to post on message forums to draw them to sites they represent.
You know what I'm talking about... message board spammers, or sploggers, or whatever they are called. From the couple I saw, they pay you to post messages on targeted forums and message boards to go to this site or that.
Do a whois on Soulcast, or do a multiple search engine search on "visionree" ... take a look at the info that comes up.
I'm sure you can find an income that makes more money than Adsense.
aeschylus
bai ming sheng
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melodii said on Oct 06, 2006....
i guess the "anonymous" posted the same thing as a comment to a few postings, coz i read it this morning in another blogger's comment.
who dare to click on the link?! it may contain something that may stick to your pc! like a spy or viral thingy...
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MikoFabulous said on Oct 06, 2006....
WHAT IS THE ACTUAL LINK? I want to see what ALL the fuss is about. I mean SoulCast has ads for other blog sites which lure you with the promise of making more money. So AdSense actually advertises for other blogs already. I want to know if it's the same ones: Trendy Friendy? PayPerPost? These are already SoulCast Ads, probably on your blog page as we speak. So maybe we could all be a little less offended?
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004275 said on Oct 06, 2006....
What Visionree?
I visit they website , but I don't understand about mean to make money.
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aeschylus said on Oct 06, 2006....
Miko ...
If you do a whois search (at any domain reseller, or at whois.net) you will find who the domain is registered to. It will tell you that Soulcast is registered through godaddy.com, the registrar is bluerazor.com, and the Administrative and Technical contacts for Soulcast are visionree.com. However, that doesn't mean visionree owns Soulcast, because Soulcast may only be a client. Or Soulcast may be one of their own entities.
If you go to visionree's website at visionree.com, you will see that they are a company that, for a fee (min $500 account deposit, but for tailored traffic its $1000 setup fee; $1000 account deposit to pay for clicks, and that must be replenished), they will drive traffic to your site.
(Of course that includes online gambling, "entertainment", and personals ... those are lucrative, high-money sites). Oh well.
Okay, then you look a bit farther (its just research, which I spent most of my life doing), and you can find that the company is probably out of China or somewhere in Asia, but now a U.S. company, and you even find job postings they've put up looking for applicants (one I found was for people to post on forums to promote a poker or gambling site), etc. And this wasn't even a deep dig for me.
I do know they are an LLC company (a corporation) out of California. They are just a business, and not really directly involved in the reason I was looking. So I just skimmed.
You need to understand I have a bit of an advantage to this digging beyond the fact I've done research for many years, both for myself and jobs. But I use Copernic professional, which is a search software and I can pull in 5000 hits on one search, that also picks up info from the code under the webpage. For this type of thing, I was initially curious, and then was being asked questions by people I was complaining to, and so I got what they wanted to know. Period.
But if you want to make money, there are a LOT of ways to do it without Adsense or that type of thing. The trick is simply to know what you're looking for and who to talk to. Researching like this can give you those answers.
I'm not saying any of this is right or wrong. It's not my business unless any of it puts a rut in my road I have to find a way around or across. People have to pay rent and feed their kids. Sometimes things like this are necessary just to survive. At the same time, those people who splog or spam a site might very well be paid by the same people who run the site, or one of their competitors. So it seems a bit hypocritical to complain about too at times.
You can't trust what's on the surface. You have to ask questions and really understand the hoopla you get fed.
Even Google tried to play with their Whois listing to avoid something or another, and got in trouble with the ICANN or something like that (ICANN controls domain names, including one bump I ran into which is forcing me to delay moving one of my domains to a cloaked service. ICANN rules say I can't move it for another 45 days or so; meanwhile I have to delay putting up a site while I wait, which hasn't been such a loss because I've done some research and learned a lot to protect my own domains as well). ICANN is like the IRS ... you surrender immediately.
It's all just big business, but wise to understand as well.
Did any of this make any sense at all? I'm definitely not big business. Actually, I'm anti big-business, and feel strongly we should go back to the mom & pop and cottagage industries. But this is what the world is today. I'm another consumer who has to deal with a very confusing mass of change.
aeschylus
bai ming sheng
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aeschylus said on Oct 06, 2006....
PS: ...
I'm trying to think of a more simplified way to explain the money making thing.
Remember that movie "Working Girl" with Harrison Ford, Melanie Griffith, and Sigourney Weaver? ... I'm pasting a quick blurb about it here:
Promotional Line: "For anyone who's ever won. For anyone who's ever lost. And for everyone who's still in there trying."
Synopsis: A female, business secretary risks her livelihood to put a deal together based on her unique idea, bending a few rules of the business world along the way.
Get that movie and watch what the Melanie Griffith character does. Then try it on a more modest scale.
Example: In my early 20s I got a flyer on my apartment door from the "new" cable company. (Cable itself was a phenomenon in those days!).
The flyer was HORRID as far as grammar, spelling, punctuation. I called the company and asked them why I should buy their product with such a horrible advertisement. They asked me over the phone how I would improve it. I gave them a few suggestions. I got a short-term contract as a result of that phone call to make them up some decent flyers to distribute. At the time I was working full-time in a clerical job, with just a passionate interest in reading and writing my poetry. But that opened doors to other things ...
Several years later, by word of mouth from an employee of that original cable company, I got a phone call out of the blue. A local nursing college wanted to rewrite one of their manuals because the original was so outdated.
I looked at the project and accepted it based on a very sketchy first draft. The contract was that I would prepare a final copy with minor editing. As I got into the project, I discovered the "minor" editing was really major, and some of it was so bad it had to be rewritten. I called my contact and got a meeting, showed her the problems and renegotiated the contract for double the fee, which still saved the school money on a project that was so minor that none of the local professionals wanted to do anyway. It paid my rent for three months.
Those two jobs propelled me into technical writing and editing off and on, and I have a letter of commendation from a contract position I had in the mid-90s where I worked on a massive (2 year) air force technical manual as part of a team of six (or was it seven?). Not only did we finish it, but they decided it was of quality that our team deserved a commendation for the work we did. I got a personal commendation from the team leader for my resume/portfolio. It opened even more doors. I digress.
I'm not sure what I'm trying to say. Keep doing the clicks and stuff, and survive, but the stuff that's really lucrative and will lead you into whatever you want to do is out there, waiting for you to find it. Look for it, find it, and succeed. Don't just survive.
Sorry for the long posts.
aeschylus
bai ming sheng
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WhyChromosome said on Oct 06, 2006....
Yes, whenever you get an offer that's too good to be true...
Well, you know the rest.
I don't use adsense. Not because it is not fundamentally legit (as it doubtless is quite legit), but because I read their terms and frankly there are so many ways in which your payments can be denied to you that it wasn't worth signing up INMHO.
The other problem was that when I ran my anti-spyware I found a cookie from googleadservices...
My anti-spyware rated it as a threat, and that was enough for me, especially as I have never completed an agreement to use their services. I wrote a bog about this but nobody commented on it -- perhaps out of fear of getting their a/c's wiped.
I joined this site on the understanding that we can freely express opinions. My opinion on adsense is pretty simple: They are using this site and many others to make a mint and paying you a pittance -- if they pay you at all.
How many of you have made over $100 yet? On this site?
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WhyChromosome said on Oct 06, 2006....
Yes, whenever you get an offer that's too good to be true...
Well, you know the rest.
I don't use adsense. Not because it is not fundamentally legit (as it doubtless is quite legit), but because I read their terms and frankly there are so many ways in which your payments can be denied to you that it wasn't worth signing up INMHO.
The other problem was that when I ran my anti-spyware I found a cookie from googleadservices...
My anti-spyware rated it as a threat, and that was enough for me, especially as I have never completed an agreement to use their services. I wrote a blog about this but nobody commented on it -- perhaps out of fear of getting their a/c's wiped.
I joined this site on the understanding that we can freely express opinions. My opinion on adsense is pretty simple: They are using this site and many others to make a very nice return and they are paying you a pittance -- if they pay you at all!
How many of you have made over $100 yet? Through your activities on this site?
BTW -- whatever happened to the EDIT facility for checking our posts? Now they just go straight through with no chance to even fix typos!
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totally_cd said on Oct 06, 2006....
hi again quid!
di pala siya. another pinoy did it and i think he did not mean anything nasty naman. in fact he blogged (posted it) it so it is not anonymous. and to think that some think that they are earning peanuts in adsense, so he tried to give a suggestion by posting that information.
please do not be hard on him naman.
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quidnunc said on Oct 06, 2006....
sorry. been busy the whole day i never had time to log in and reply to all your comments.
i can see that, by and large, soulcasters have been endeared to this community and no migration en masse will ensue for more dollars.
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quidnunc said on Oct 06, 2006....
InterplanetJanet: i don't think the spammer won because of this post.
firstly, i did not include the link to his proposed site so nobody knows what it actually is.
secondly, i was able to emphasize an important point, i.e., anonymous bloggers should not feel they are free to spam other user's blogs. it is simply rude. sometimes, merely deleting their comments is not enought to send a strong message of disdain for their act.
finally, i was able to confirm what i thought all along. by the comments generated by this post, it is crystal that this community is peopled by writers who genuinely love to write, not by entrepreneurs in search for an income- generating activity on the side.
so i say, yes, this is a proper course of action to take.
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quidnunc said on Oct 06, 2006....
totally_cd: i think you are missing the point here, my dear.
i received a comment from anonymous. i found it in one of my posts. whether or not somebody posted a similar blog is totally beside the point.
i find it rude when an anonymous comment is placed in a blog which is totally irrelevant and unrelated to the topic.
this should not be done, even if the doer does not harbor any ill-intent.
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quidnunc said on Oct 06, 2006....
to all of you who found time to comment on this post - thank you!
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silverwhisper said on Oct 06, 2006....
totally CD: you don't understand what spamming is. you're obviously very new to being online. trust me, you're just wrong.
ed
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sam_ting_wong said on Oct 06, 2006....
I do not know much about spamming. But I guess we should all be courteous to one another. A user's blog is his page and space. It is his domain. We must respect it by not posting irrelevant and anonymous comments.
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mr_right14 said on Oct 06, 2006....
I like to clarify before it get more serious and affect me
I'm not that guy.
Wherever I post or commented, I indicate my name and use my signature "Mr_RiGhT"
I was away for the whole week and wasn't able to visit soulcast.
Now I've returned and this issue...Oh man...
Just like I've said from other posts, I'm a man of responsibility and I don't make myself anonymous.
I'll be away for another week again and I hope this will be cleared out.
I also had that on one of my posts but he did indicate her username.
See you guys next week!
Oh quid how's your MOM?
Hope she's recovering well.
Mr_RiGhT
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mr_right14 said on Oct 06, 2006....
I guess SoulCast must have proper action regards to this problem.
It's nice to have a full anonymity but I guess an option to comment as anonymous is not a great thing.
"Commenting as anonymous makes one's self a coward."
If SoulCast can have at least a feature that can ban or block the anonymous. (blocking the anonymous person without revealing its real username)
Mr_RiGhT
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totally_cd said on Oct 07, 2006....
okay okay. i already said my apologies to mr_right. i meant it as a joke to flush him out (he's been absent for a while kasi)!
as for spammers, honestly, i hate them! but i know spam and their reasons for doing that. their methods might irritate us but all we can do is plug the holes to lessen the damage(if you will call it that). as long as there are loopholes in the internet, these young spammers/virus(vital information resource under seige) programmers will do everything so they can have their way.
i have been an online user for 11 years (because of my sideline which is systems design) and had my fair share of virus attacks and HD crashes. though this is my first intensed blogging (SC), it is because i am not a writer.
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totally_cd said on Oct 09, 2006....
this will be the last time you will hear from me.
you gang up on me on my birthday...
thank you! your bias shows.
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mr_right14 said on Oct 09, 2006....
Recommends a site better than SC?
Those posts or comments should not be tolerated.
This is a SoulCast domain...
Example, a radio broadcast station (93.1 FM) plays an adverstisement.
The advertisement says "The best of the best! 90.7 FM."
You may notice specially malls, shopping centers, food establishments and broadcasting stations.
They don't advertise their competitors.
In food establishments and malls, they have these SCA.
To avoid playing an ad of their competitors.
A McDonalds resto then a Wendy's advertisement is played? Duh???
In TV stations and Radio stations, have you ever seen or heard an ad of other network stations being played on their channel?
Not unless it's their sister company or affiliate.
totally_cd
Gang up?
Hmmm...not far from real life.
Are your really planning to leave SC?
Oct. 6 was your birthday right?
The day were the Moon Cake Festival was celebrated this year.
Mr_RiGhT
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thenack said on Oct 10, 2006....
Hello
I think I know the site you were refered to, if I am right here is my opinion, they pay quicker ($10) and there seem to be a lot of members. I think the site owner is making a killing of the people.
Most important, I copied my soulcast piece on depression there. On soulcast, everyone understood what I was aying and could understand my humor. On the other site, I got 10 coments from people who obviously don't have a brain or a grasp of the english language. The people on here are in my opinion generally of reasonable inteligence, which makes SC rock
Cheers
TN
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quidnunc said on Oct 10, 2006....
hi TN,
i actually visited the site also. i read some posts and comments and did not like it at all. people there tend to post just for the sake of posting.
the blogs in that other site does not have the depth and humor as the ones i read here in SC.
i totally agree with you, SC rocks!
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anonymous said on Oct 13, 2006....
hey friends
It appears that soulcasters are narrowminded
is there no freedom of speech on soulcast.why
are you bothered quidnunc
we should check out the site and try to persuade
the soulcast to incorporate those features.
if something is better why not check it out and try to
make soulcast even better than that
DO NOT BE NARROW MINDED.LET EVERYONE
EXPRESS HIS/HER THOUGHT
this will be good practice to keeep soulcast growing
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silverwhisper said on Oct 13, 2006....
spammer: i hope you die a horrible, lingering death. soon. quit trying to pretend you're anything other than a spammer.
idiot.
ed
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labyrinth said on Oct 16, 2006....
I second the motion.
Double idiot.
lab
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mr_right14 said on Oct 16, 2006....
ANONYMOUS!!!
It's our right to express our thought.
Fom what you're talking, I think you skipped some chapters.
Read your book again and see what Freedom you're talking to!
Mr_RiGhT
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aeschylus said on Oct 16, 2006....
Quidnunc ... and other readers ...
Just report splog and sploggers here:
Splog Reporter: Cleaning up the Blogosphere One Splog at a Time
http://www.splogreporter.com/?p=report
aeschylus
bai ming sheng
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girirajmundhra said on Oct 25, 2006....
hiiiiiiiiyou have just created bubble out of the whole thing.you have not disclosed the link to the site which pays better than soulcast.please provide link to the site. -
silverwhisper said on Oct 25, 2006....
my god...you're one of those people that actually opens all the unsolicited e-mail you get, aren't you?
ed
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aeschylus said on Oct 25, 2006....
Any of you ???
Why not write for Associated Content. They pay if they publish, and they are constantly looking for articles. Granted, the pay averages up to $20 an article (depends on what the tags cover, how much the advertisers will pay).
Of course, you have to write structured content, and make it look decent.
But it pays. I've heard no complaints, and I publish on the site (although most of mine is copyrighted so I don't sell it).
There are other sites online looking for content writers. Sure, the pay isn't "much" but its a lot more than $4 or $5, or even $100 after 3-4 months. And I haven't heard anyone say they didn't get paid, because if they accept your article and publish it, they pay you.
I was doing a couple of searches the other day, and ran into an AC article about paper dolls, and how you can't buy them in the store anymore. Period. (My search was regarding animated avatars for bot language engines like the MS accessiblity text-to-speech tools).
But AC (and others) get picked up by the search engines, and because they have to accept their content, they have a better reputation than sites that just claim "get paid to blog."
aeschylus
bai.mingsheng@gmail.com
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