• sigroid75 said on Oct 04, 2006....

  hmm...let's just not dignify them.
  like a pimple, ignore them and they will go awayu.
  

• thenack said on Oct 04, 2006....

  Sigroid, yes and no. Sometimes you need that stuff they have on the TV the nuke the mother.
  

• aeschylus said on Oct 04, 2006....

  sigroid ...
  
  They don't go away. They've been around a very long time ... back to the days of Telnet actually.
  
  the nack ... On Usenet those personalities were referred to as Trolls, weren't they?
  
  Interesting how certain behaviors can backfire though. Let's watch and see what happens.
  
  aeschylus
  bai ming sheng
  

• missfickle said on Oct 04, 2006....

  Here here, well said, I feel the same, they are obviously hiding something. MS
  

• thenack said on Oct 04, 2006....

  Feel free to bring any phsycho analysis to the table!
  

• GreenDischarge said on Oct 04, 2006....

  Hi bitches. I am not hiding anything. I am being real and letting it all out. Clearly, you retards can't handle such stimulus, so you block me or whatever. Please realize that dirk and I are different people. i am guessing dirk is British from his use of Oi; I am from the US. The more you link me to dirk, the more I realize how retarded you actually are. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
  
  As for your psycho babble thewhack, you are so wrong it frightens me. My time on here has been a little psychological experiment, and I have really been quite surprised with the results. If everyone could be more wrong about their assessments of me... it boggles my mind. Block me if you wish; I will wield it like a trophy. HBC pussied out again because of his encouragement from the other lame-ass lemmings. It is sad because I thought I was making a breakthrough with him. Dirk fucked it up for me, but I won't hold a grudge.
  

• aeschylus said on Oct 04, 2006....

  Green ...
  
  Actually, I personally don't consider your posts as from a Troll. You stand by your words. Trolls don't, and simply post to cause havoc or dissent only. Hit and run bitching.
  
  You haven't figured out dirk shows all the traits of female yet? Look carefully at some of the posts across the community (if they are still up, because dirk counts on getting deleted and blocked). There are a couple of "sugar and spice" personas who popped into the same linguistic pattern too. I avoid them.
  
  I started taking screenshots instead of links or saving pages. Quite a collection, and much easier to compare the linquistics.
  
  Ahhh! then we see two particular figures that are supposedly known and loved. Eliciting pity and sympathy and how "good" they are. And other than the issues I have which brought problems into my real life caused by these "real" people (or real person, I should say), I don't really care to waste time looking further, but the question came up as to whether one persona (which may or may not be connected to those already mentioned) is actually from Soulcast staff or ownership. Those points and clicks are pretty important when you want to get to the "top" huh?
  
  Unfortunately, the lousy navigation and tracking system on Soulcast doesn't help reveal this type of thing easily. Another reason it was pointed out to me by a local that it could be Soulcast generating it for the traffic themselves. I don't care. Let them figure it out.
  
  Y'all are more tuned in than I am. I'm just trying to clean up some crap that landed in my back yard.
  
  Green, if you want some good fights, get rid of the trolls and the quality might improve. My own toys have been collecting dust as well, but I don't fight with psychos.
  
  aeschylus
  bai ming sheng
  

• RollingC said on Oct 04, 2006....

  good for you thenack...
  

• Dr_Vesalius said on Oct 04, 2006....

  Hi, I am new here. I wanted to learn more about the treehouse, but I am afraid I am confused. Is there turmoil on this site? I have been on other sites that get bogged down by crazy people, and it get to the point that it is no longer fun to participate. This place is so huge, I can't imagine that would happen here.
  
  I'd be up for some pints thenack!
  

• pinap said on Oct 04, 2006....

  ~Good for you Thenack~
  

• anonymous said on Oct 04, 2006....

  I personally feel sorry for you GreenDischrage, I can't imagine what it's like to go through life SO UGLY WITH ERECTILE DISFUNCTION. No attractive person with a functioning penis would talk to people the way you do.
  
  You're under the delusion that you get the last laugh but you know what gets me, is the thought of your mangy face starring into the computer, your wimpy little body hunched over your key board, typing while snorting laughs at your own jokes, and it's that PATHETIC image that makes it impossible for me to be offended by anything you say.
  
  If you were a REAL man, with any REAL friends, with the capacity to live a REAL life you would do us all a favor and leave us the fuck alone. Your "psychological experiment" is a shallow cover for the fact that this is the only place people will sit and listen to your crap!
  

• MikoFabulous said on Oct 04, 2006....

  One thing to be careful of: Following in Green Discharge's footsteps...
  I once made the mistake of misinterpreting a comment that directly followed one made by GreenDischarge. It sounded like the guy was agreeing with GD and egging him on, so I really let him have it. Poor guy, didn't know what hit him! When he finally figured out how what he said sounded in the context of GD's remark he explained what he really meant and apologized for hurting anyones feelings. Turned out to be a cool guy with a refreshing perspective. My bad.
  
  So just be careful if you find yourself commenting anywhere near him, that you seperate your opinion as your own. And remember that no one ever agrees with Green Discharge. No one.
  

• aeschylus said on Oct 04, 2006....

  Miko ...
  
  I don't think Green wants anyone to agree with him, or cares. I don't see that in his posts. I don't agree with him, but then I also haven't run into any reason to censor what he's said I guess.
  
  Basically, Green reminds me of the "devil's advocate" ... and sometimes the message is a bit blunt, but not necessarily completely untrue. I prefer that to the trolls, whose behavior is so unstable it can't be predicted.
  
  LOL ... I do agree about commenting near him though. Misinterpretations start fast and end slowly. No offense Green, but if lightning is about to strike someone, I run like hell out of the field.
  
  aeschylus
  bai ming sheng
  

• thenack said on Oct 05, 2006....

  Dr Vesaluis, cool doc, see you after work?
  
  Green, I know full well you are not the same person. Oi, no shit Sherlock, we all think Dirk is a brit.
  
  I had the suspicion you were deliberately being a bitch yourself, which you confirmed by saying you are "experimenting" on here. Read my post again, I put you in a catagory of people who have a wildly exagerated sense of self-intelect leading to arrogance. You use this to lull the feeling inside that you really don't have a clue. That is what I said above smartypants. Read it again.
  
  To Everyone, have a great day
  
  Thenack
  

• GreenDischarge said on Oct 05, 2006....

  *POOF*
  

• anonymous said on Oct 05, 2006....

  who is madame sosostice? (hope I spelled that right)
  Does D.D. start commenting with oi? as madame does?
  Coincidence or do they come from the same Island?
  

• aeschylus said on Oct 05, 2006....

  Green ...
  
  As I said on a different post ... it's all in the linguistics. You can't lose a twang no matter how hard you try ... or the base language structure you started with. Hell, look at Stephen King when they found an earlier pseudonym he wrote under.
  
  And there are other trackers that a majority of people have no clue about. Most don't have to care, because they don't go this far.
  
  By the way, an old saying about something like this persona business is "Follow the money if you want to know what's going on."
  
  Just watch. And wait. The bait is out. Let's see how many get caught.
  
  It may get even more interesting.
  
  aeschylus
  bai ming sheng
  

• MadameSosostris said on Oct 05, 2006....

  Oi! I think it's plain to see, Dearest Ones, that GD is one of two people. For there are only two here in this arena with both the intellect, arrogance and spiteful behaviour displayed by GD. I am sure, if you think deeply enough you will figure out who I mean! And O no, I am neither Dirk nor the Professor nor HBC nor GD, and certainly not Ming! The Professor, most audaciously, once played around suggesting he was me, but anyone can see I am neither as clever nor as good looking!
  
  Let it be a persona quest! Got to it and have fun! And spite and envy and dissension and maliciousness? Not I said the brown cow--at least in this lifetime, thank the stars!
  
  O, and I know all about trackers AND heinous hackers!
  
  Yours in Utter Amazement,
  
  Madame S.
  

• MadameSosostris said on Oct 05, 2006....

  AND, there is only one person in this thread who possesses the e-mail address of mine that was maliciously hacked today! I wonder who can guess that person's identity?!
  Any computer wizards here, who know all about bots, hacking, hiding and faking IP's and all those sorts of things? HMMM . . . Perhaps the FBI knows--or will soon? Karma see Karma do!
  
  Yours in Profound Knowledge of Certain Evil Doings and the Undeniable Cosmic Law that Everything that Goes Around Comes Around,
  
  Madame S.
  

• MadameSosostris said on Oct 05, 2006....

  And please, let me reiterate, Ming: I warned you yesterday about referring to me in any way shape or form, and you continue to do it. Your innuendoes fool no one. You have slandered me all over this website and NO ONE would take what I have taken from you so far. Thank you very much for providing that very helpful article on Internet Harassment and Stalking. And since you cannot seem to let go of your intense anger at me and overwhelming desire for revenge for some imagined slight, I now consider you to be a grave danger to my reputation, my online safety and mental health. One more reference to me, no matter how veiled, and I will report you immediately.
  
  Madame S.
  

• Dr_Vesalius said on Oct 06, 2006....

  Shit, thenack, I missed you after work, howabout a raincheck?
  
  Are you a psychic Madame Sosostris? Do you do card readings? My friends does them, and they totally freak me out. Sometimes that stuff is so right on it is scary. I commented on silverwhisper's post that I foresaw my grandfather's death, but the only other psychic ability I seem to have is switching radio stations and landing on the same song in the same spot. Weird, huh?
  

• aeschylus said on Oct 06, 2006....

  Madame ...
  
  Sigh. Fortunately it was a local police officer who pulled up your comments before I did. I may have had a different, more direct, reaction. Perhaps you should look in a mirror rather than your crystal ball regarding who is doing what to whom!?
  
  I did save the other post you've deleted accusing me of hacking into your email accounts, as well as the ones accusing me of spamming you. Did you ever bother to check your own settings??? Doh!
  
  Keep in mind that I started contacting authorities when this started. My computer files are available and accessible, including the fact that an officer came and sat at my computer this morning. It's not me who may or may not be digging into your personas and history, Madame. I don't have the inclination or care.
  
  For your information, the first step in a process like this is to contact local authorities. Then they forward the investigation to the FBI, who forwards it to the State Attorney General's office, who has responsibility for dealing with inter-state jurisdictional issues. IMHO, let them do the work.
  
  On the other hand, you've come online and made accusations and allegations that are easily proved or disproved by my own local authorities. And what in the world do you think they peceive of YOU, Madame, or others, when they look at me and my work in real life, then see these wild claims? I need do very little at all.
  
  The members with personal information, and the threats, on this site do not include me. And the fact that authorities are taking your postings seriously based on the projects they are fully aware that I am working on, and the personal risks I may face, including reactions from members of this site, will continue.
  
  By the way, was anyone aware that in the U.S., October is National Violence Awareness Month? And the bill that was passed into law in January by President Bush (H.R. 3402), included a section relating to internet communications? Yes, considering the entire combination of all that has transpired for me recently, apparently all of this behavior is being looked at carefully.
  
  aeschylus
  bai ming sheng
  

• MadameSosostris said on Oct 06, 2006....

  Dearest Ming,
  
  I have done nothing to you. I have read over your own interations with GD and I am surprised you played along. He was very cruel to you, and that is unacceptable. I am neither GD nor Dirk Gently, nor the Professor, nor HBC, etc. If information was leaked, you might want to consider everything you have confessed here and at Blogfeast, which was a lot.
  
  When you put so much of your private life in a public forum, it is very likely to backfire on you should someone unsavory come around.
  
  I mean these words in honesty and in honor of what was the beginning of a very good friendship at Blogfeast. I had the very best discussions with you--better than with anyone else online. I cherished the moments you'd post blogs or show up mysteriously to comment on mine. And I believe you did, too.
  
  I consider myself completely through with you. If you have some type of deeply incriminating evidence against me, well then so be it. Prove it and have fun.
  
  And your work is no more important than anyone else's. Period. Why would it be? Simply because you have some problems, and I do admit they are very serious, gives you no right to attack people so viciously. No are not "special" until you prove it by being important, kind and integral in someone else's life. It is the same for anyone.
  
  And my e-mail account was hacked. You said you were pissed. You said you have a "reputation" for getting people who have wronged you. All this behavior is very, very scary, whether you'll admit it or not.
  
  I am doing you a favor, however, though I do not think you deserve it. I am leaving this site so you'll have no basis to accuse me of anything ever again since my IP will not be showing up here. Also you have ALL my personal information, including all of my e-mail addresses, etc. This scares the wits out of me. I guess I've learned a BIG lesson about trusting anyone online ever again.
  
  So, in essence, you have won, no? Congratulations. I am sure you are very happy about this. But in the process, you have shown the entire community what your true character is, and you have lost irretrievably one of the best friends you could have ever had.
  
  Best of luck to you My Once Upon a Time Friend,
  
  Madame S.
  

• MadameSosostris said on Oct 06, 2006....

  And btw. I'm pretty sure who GD is, as I think you are, too. You "play" with him enough to notice his stock in trade language. Why are you not attacking him for his audacious cruelty, no matter where he got the info? This perplexes me, indeed.
  
  Madame S.
  

• aeschylus said on Oct 06, 2006....

  Madame ...
  
  There was no "winning" or "losing" in something like this. Those losing are the people who are out there being hurt by others because they don't have enough information or defenses to protect themselves. That's not me. What was done knocked me down, yes. As a matter of fact, I felt like someone had just punched me in the face ... again! It took me several days to recover. But I did, thanks to people who know me, and support my philosophy and efforts. I got up and stood up to you and others. I'll continue to do so. KEEP ON HITTING anyone who cares to. I've gotten punched a lot worse. I'm not going to go scrambling down some rabbit hole. And if I did, I'd be coming back out eventually with an army of rabbits behind me (read the book, or see the movie "Watership Down"). But I'll play the game by the rules, as well as can be done. And not vicious demeaning false allegations and calling for reinforcements so you can save face. I'm here writing this, no one else, and no one will come and post a comment to protect me. Compared to other battles I've had to fight, this is the equivalent to getting a roach out of my kitchen sink.
  
  IMHO, you challenge and sabotage the efforts of many who I am trying to FOLLOW in establishing safe and comfortable environments to communicate whatever they may need to in their lives.
  
  I'm not sure what information you THINK I have regarding you, Madame. I had an email account through which you communicated with me. That was given to authorities, as was any other information. I am busy with IRL things, I don't have time or inclination to chase down twits.
  
  On the other hand, and one reason my local officials consider this a serious matter, I have three domains which you were informed of and, when this began, were not cloaked with respect to my personal information, including my name, residence, and contact information. Based on the irrational reaction to my being upset that a personal reference had been posted without my permission, the concern heightend. That irrational attitude has continued. The address of securing cloaking services is being taken care of and as efficiently as possible. Not only do I not want my domains hacked by trolls, but neither does my hosting provider. The only good thing about all of this is that it became very clear to me and those who support me very quickly is that we needed better security measures regarding privacy attached to the domains ... not just mine, but the people who would be using them. I wasn't aware of the differences or the availability of the cloaking processes, nor the increased problems associated with ICANN and various countries. My transactions are international; I don't always take the time to make sure I am up-to-date on local laws.
  
  And the fact that my domains are "not for profit" and one specifically is intended to serve victims of crimes and disabilities, people who need and are entitled to a safe environement to communicate, the attitude of you (and others with the same attitude) will not endear you to peoples who find themselves in situations that compromise their sense of safety, security, or trust or the ones who realize they themselves may someday have to deal with such things. Compare that to your multiple personas with your Adsense accounts. Get a life. Follow the money. But not in my direction.
  
  The fact that my pen name was posted with something specific to a written work, without my authorization or permission, and then was treated with an "I don't give a damn!" attitude, including the cursing and whining at me both publicly and privately, shows a disrespect for the privacy of people who would be included and recognized ... particularly victims who must live every day with events from their lives that they struggle to deal with. But you had no concern for them, and still have none.
  
  You offered me no "friendship" Madame. You tried to shovel shit in my face. You claim that I became resentful when you said you were too busy to assist with a project, yet at the same time you were demanding that I set aside MY work and co-author a book with you??? That makes no sense. Your logic makes no sense. Your proposal at the time made no sense to me at all, nor does it now. I walked away then, as I do now. Later you contacted me again, asking me to join you on some other "click for pay" site so that you could use your persona(s). Stuff it! My disability makes it difficult for me to edit my own words, how in the FUCKING HELL do you expect me to write some trashy novel you want to write based on personas you create on whim.
  
  I have real life stories to tell for people who are unable or unwilling to tell them, which I understand only too well because of my own difficulty in TELLING (not dealing with) my own distant past. Many many others trust me to help them because they know I understand. My pen name has a presence online, whether or not you are aware of it. You SHOULD NOT be aware of it because it was not meant to be connected with certain subjects publicly until planned, if at all. Oh well" Hopefully, with the attentiveness to this matter, that may or may not be salvaged. As you should well know ... a "nick" or a "psudo" name is readily available at any time. I have plenty of lead time, and this has shown those who thought my concerns were too sensitive that those concerns were, indeed, valid. Hell, Aeschylus can die. Bai Ming Sheng can die. Who gives a damn. I've been dead twice and I'm still here bitching at you! There will be another and another and another, until someone somewhere wakes up and realizes that its wrong.
  
  You attack Green and many others. And viciously! I've seen them "challenge" personas on the board. Perhaps effectively, perhaps not. I've taken very little of what they've said to me too personally. But at least they post it and allow response. That's not the game you and yours play. This is a virtual community, and I can always turn off the computer and leave. But you and another mixed up "virtual" with "real" and put my concerns to such a test that I have had to (and willingly) make my full computer files and online information available to authorities. WHERE IS MY PRIVACY. You have risked the anonymity and privacy of people who communicate with me trusting confidentiality and respect.
  
  Then, when I call you on it, including challenging HBC's post that I "fake" my disabilities, etc., in order to elicit pity, you react even more, with more allegations and crap. You can save face Madame. SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH. I'm not going to leave the board, you and your friends can block the blogs, you can harrass me through the various posts. I'm not going to change my nick and log in with another persona. I've only got one, which just happens to have two signatures right now. You can even petition to have my IP address blocked. I don't care. Don't you see? I'm proving my point, every one of them, including that there is no "free speech" or "privacy" ... not because of laws or authorities or even owners of websites. It's because of people like YOU! with these attitudes.
  
  Go to FUCKING HELL Madame, and grow up, you snotty little twit (aka pregnant goldfish).
  
  aeschylus
  bai ming sheng
  

• thenack said on Oct 09, 2006....

  Whats all this shouting about, oh, its still you two, perhaps both of you should tell your side of the story, in a short paragraph, and then we could vote on who was the villainist. No one should have to leave,
  
  Well?
  

• thenack said on Oct 09, 2006....

  AESCH, if you're going to tell someone to F go to hell, please make a post for that specifically, I do not appreciate it on here
  

• aeschylus said on Oct 09, 2006....

  thenack ...
  
  You can delete the comments if you wish; I apologize for the language, but since there seem to be so many blocked threads, your's ended up in the stream.
  
  aeschylus
  bai ming sheng
  

• thenack said on Oct 09, 2006....

  Aesch, no harm done, (to me in anycase (-; )
  
  Just try to relax a liiiiiitlebit,
  
  Thanks and keep well,
  
  TN
  

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