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catch22 said on Oct 22, 2009....
I really don't think that this is the true church! -
THE_dude said on Oct 22, 2009....
The Romans murered Jesus. -
anonymous said on Oct 22, 2009....
ooPeople are too fucking scared ar comment on this. Catholics controll America! -
beyondtheveil said on Oct 22, 2009....
There is no such thing as a true church. -
ASHOKHA said on Oct 22, 2009....
Don't fight which church is big. Chrisitianity origin itself is from an ancient philosophy. interesting! read this.
In Muntaka Upanishad of Hindu philosophy chapter third describes
a symbolic story of two birds. One is adma (soul) and another is jeev(life).
Both are sitting in a fig (ficus) (pippala) tree. Jeev eats the fruit of fig tree
(Pippala) and adma(soul) is looking at her without any influence..
This story is told to explain even though the life (living being) is doing
the worldly things (including sex) it will not affect the soul inside.
The interesting thing in this story is comparison of the Adam and Eve of Bible
with this. The following points are coincide. Adam and adma. Eve and jeev.
pipple and bible. fig is fig (not changed). forbidden fruit is forbidden fruit (not changed).
Upanishads are 5000 years old. Bible is 2000 years old.
Author Pippala (rishi) (hermit) was living 2500 years ago. Jesus 2000 years.
Is it possible that this story has taken this new shape in 3000 years?
Readers can do research on this subject. refer / search Deivathin kural written
by H.H. Chandrasekarendra Saraswathi swamiji of Kanchi Kamakoti peetam.
visit http://www.kamakoti.org or read muntaka upanishad in http://www.ashokha.com
or visit http:www.wikipedia.org and read upanishads. If we take the adma (adam) and jeev (eve)
as two birds in a symbolic story then there will not be any doubts in their existence as
asked by so many. But if we take them as two human beings so many questions
will arise as in http://www.answers.comOnly 100 years back two disciples approaches a guru (teacher).
They are from two places only 100 kilometers away from each other in Tamilnadu of India. He teaches that there is no God and everything is only soul. To respect the soul he instructs to pray before a mirror. The mirror will reflect the person in front of it which emphasize that everyone must pray himself. One disciple is from Muslim community and another is from Hindu community. After some years both went to their places and teach the philosophy of mirror. Both are wearing white clothes, live a very simple life, feed the poor, and kind to mankind. But as these two teachers are from two separate religions there are certain small influences of their major religion making these two into two separate religions. Most of the people do not know that the origin of these two religions are from one. If this is the stage of 100 years then what about the story told 5000 years back that adma (soul)and jeev(life) are sitting in a fig tree which is forbidden by God can be changed into a new one which cannot be identified with the origin itself. The author of this upanishad is Pippala. He gets this name as he is eating only the leaves of the fig (piple) (ficus religiosa). Adam has become adma. Jeev has become eve. Piple has become bible. Pippala is 5000 years old. Christ 2000 years old. During the period of 3000 years this story has taken a new shape. No doubt about that. Upanishads are 10008. Each upanishad contains 100 stanzas in average. That means there are more than 10,00,000 stanzas. One among them is this symbolic story of adma and jeev which is only four lines. This story is told to explain that even though the adma (soul) is inside the body, it will not be affected by the actions (including sex) done by the jeev (life). But this small stanza has grown into two major philosophies means that time can do anything. For detailed reading go to the pages “bible and piple” and “the religions” in http.www.ashokha.com
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ASHOKHA said on Oct 22, 2009....
THE RELIGIONS
One religion is coming in to existence only after some messiah come to this world and tell something
new to the people. If some hundred people are following him during his period after thousand years
they will become one lakh people as the population explosion is the only non stop nonsense that is
happening in this world.
But truly speaking nothing can be told new.
Everything will be told already.
If any thing is told as new it will be existing their in some other form. ...........ashokha.
The only difference may be in languages or in any rituals that are familiar to that area already.
If we go deep in to the root of those religions we can see certain fundamental policies that are
already existing in some other shape.
The story of two birds in a forbidden tree that the female bird has eaten the fruit and the male bird
is not affected by that had become the base of two major religions. In muntaka upanishad the birds
are adma and jeev. Later they become adam and eve. The piple tree sound is not changed much.
To save some people from the invasion of the people of another religion some has taken weapons
and they become a separate religion after six hundred years. The people who are coming for war
are also here. The people who are saved are also here. A third religion is coming into existence
with these already two. The turban and the knife are telling the history.
Two disciples learned something from a single guru (teacher). They teach them to their disciples.
In one hundred years two separate religions are coming in to existence at a distance of two hundred
kilometers. Both are not having god faith and pray only mirrors symbolizing that they are the
god themselves. They pray the light as god.
Buddha taught the meditation. In sanscrit it is “thyan”. As the people cannot spell it, it become “zen”.
Contradiction to this one scholar does meditation for some years. Nothing has happened inside.
He got angry. He teaches there is no god. Everything is only human. Some people follow
him and it becomes a sect now. They are not doing any rituals but their cursing of the god
itself become a ritual now.
I finish with a symbolic story. Let it not become a separate religion after hundred years,please.
Two disciples from two separate countries come to a teacher. The teacher teaches them “love is
god”. In one disciple's language it is“chang ching chang” and in another's language it is
“ching chang ching”. After ten years both go to their country and teach the policy. After thousand
years lakhs of people are following each religion. After another thousand years these two countries
are fighting at their borders to spread their religions in each others country. One man from the native
of that original teacher see this and cries chang ching chang and ching chang ching are same...both are
same.....both are same.........but nobody hear the cry.
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mixednuts said on Oct 22, 2009....
*Beyond-I sort of feel the same way---*ASH- that was some important stuff! I plan to read it all on friday! -
javadewd said on Oct 23, 2009....
Actually, no the Greek Orthodox from the 1st century would be considered the only "true" church, but I don't think there is a "pure" form of that denomination anymore. Also, you're also considering that all Catholics are corrupt when by degree the most corrupt spawned the least-corrupt of the Protestant church and its denominations.
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mixednuts said on Oct 23, 2009....
javadewd- I agree with you about the Catholic church.In my opinion the one and only true church is in the heart. -
javadewd said on Oct 23, 2009....
That's where it was last planted. Good point. -
mixednuts said on Oct 26, 2009....
javadewd- Thanks for poping in! -
mixednuts said on Oct 27, 2009....
Ask "the man". -
mixednuts said on Oct 27, 2009....
ASH- I did go to those sites! It was very interesting. -
chizad40 said 12 days ago....
claiming that any one church/belief/or religion is the ONLY truth is absolutely ridiculous!! "Catholicism is the ONLY truth." Christianity is the ONLY truth." Buddhism is the ONLY truth." Islam is the ONLY truth." "Mormonism is the ONLY truth." "Atheism is the ONLY truth." who's right? who's wrong? who knows? why does ONE have to be the ONLY truth? who's to say? i think it comes down to what we have been TAUGHT to believe is the ONLY truth............... (typically where and how we live.)