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Some think the Obama will have no problems being re-elected in 2012, but I think everyone now knows that Obama is not as squeaky clean as they thought during the campaign. Plus, Jesus Himself might not be able to pull us out of this unemployment deal and hopefully Obama will be blamed for it. I say hopefully because liberals and the liberal media have a way of looking over his (and every other liberal's) shortcomings. Hey, if the guy did not have such warped ideas about Socialism, Communism, and America in general, not to mention his inexperience and what that is likely to cause, I might vote for him next time. And that is about the only reason he might be re-elected. Occasionally we re-elect losers (like Clinton) simply because they are the evil we know, which is better than the evil we do not know. We just have to keep an eye on Obama and make sure he does not sell out America, however we do that.

And some think Obama is not trying to control the media, not trying to shut his critics down. If you believe that, you might want to read this ...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28532.html

To quote that article ...

With a series of private meetings and public taunts, the White House has targeted the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the biggest-spending pro-business lobbying group in the country; Rush Limbaugh, the country’s most-listened-to conservative commentator; and now, with a new volley of combative rhetoric in recent days, the insurance industry, Wall Street executives and Fox News.

Yet, Obama cannot decide what to do in the Middle East. I suppose it would be easier to shut down your critics. That would solve all kinds of problems. I suppose the president has cause to be worried since his numbers dropped about nine points between his second and third quarters in office, according to Gallup. That is about the worst drop for any president at that point in his presidency.

Is there any wonder hardcore conservatives are livid when it comes to this administration? Who in their right mind wants to be told to sit down and shut up? However ...

Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.

By media personalities, they mean people like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. For more on that, see ...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091022/pl_politico/28589

I often debate with people around here that America is more conservative than liberal. That does not mean that America is more Republican than Democrat. You have to remember that there are liberal Republicans and there are conservative Democrats, but that is not the norm. A Gallup poll done in August says conservatives outnumber liberals ...

http://www.theitem.com/article/20090819/OPED02/708199935/-1/RSS09

That article says ...

But we already knew that. What makes this poll so surprising is that self-identified conservatives outnumber self-identified liberals in all 50 states of the union, according to Gallup. The poll’s results were derived from interviewing 160,235 American adults between Jan. 2 of this year and June 30. They were asked whether their political views are very conservative, conservative, moderate, liberal or very liberal. In the survey, 40 percent of respondents said they are either “conservative” or “very conservative.” That is the highest percentage in any year since 2004, say the Gallup pollsters. Only 21 percent told Gallup they are “liberal” or “very liberal.” Moderates make up 35 percent of the rest of those polled.

I guess I have to revise my statement. America is not more conservative than liberal, but conseratives do outnumber liberals. Plus, I think a lot of those moderates (somewhere between liberal and conservative) and Independents (neither Democrat nor Republican) are the ones that decide elections. Socialists probably side with Democrat candidates and Libertarians probably side with Republican candidates, but even that is probably not a sure thing.

If you notice, that poll was taken in the first half of 2009. I would almost bet that those numbers are different today, and will be much different by this time next year, and even more different by this time in 2012. It is like Abraham Lincoln said ...

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

So Obama can keep trying to silence his critics, but it will do him no good because he is trying to fool The People instead of doing his job. Of course, he cannot do the job he wants to do because a majority of Americans do not agree with what he wants to do. He can stage press conferences with fake doctors, but real doctors will just show up and prove how far off base he is (real doctors do not want big government to take over the healthcare system). As I heard a real doctor say this morning, if you do not pay full price for a service, the service will disappear. In other words, rationing and waiting forever for a doctor to see you. You know, like in Canada and anywhere they have Socialized medicine.

The strange thing is, a majority (well, just over 50 percent) of Americans voted for him. The question is why? The answer is ... because he is not George Bush, because the liberal media supported him, and because he is a blackish man. He put together a coalition of the disgruntled, the dishonest, and the disillusioned. What an accomplishment. No wonder he won the Nobel Peace Prize.



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  • beyondtheveil said on Oct 22, 2009....
    I think more people would identify themselves as being conservative or moderate conservatives, but not necessarily republican for sure. I'm conservative on some things, more liberal on others and I'd bet the majority of the country sees things in this light. I recently saw in two places where 20% of the public claim to be republican, though I admit not knowing if it's true. If it is true, I would say the bush years and the way the republican party has presented itself since then is largely at fault.

    I believe most of the country is to the left of center on social issues and right of center fiscally. Just my opinion from talking to friends and acquaintances. Almost all of them cringe when 'Evangelical Christians' comes into the conversation and believe me they aren't atheists. I think this group is feared.

    The 35% claiming to be moderate or independent doesn't surprise me at all considering today's world. I'm only surprised it isn't more. It is a fearful time. Two wars we can't get out of, the economy, and less trust in congress than any time in history that I know of.

    It is very difficult to take sides completely. I think the moderates will only grow because people are thinking more deeply on individual issues rather than succumb to either of the purely right/left ideologies.

    Neither has answers and the people don't trust politicians at all.


  • javadewd said on Oct 22, 2009....
    Sounds like Nixon... But if everybody else is a criminal, then he's us... Or the king of all criminals. Will we all become what we hate? The left has already stepped over that line.
  • ALIENated said on Oct 22, 2009....

    I think Bush got obsessed with the war on terrorists and the media got obsessed with bashing Bush. Most Americians have forgotten why we are in the Middle East and the liberal media makes sure we stay confused about it. (I figure a lot of Middle Eastern money is bankrolling the liberal media one way or another.) I also figure a lot of people identify with one side today and another side tomorrow. That is why we elect a Democrat one time and a Republican the next. I think the Republican party is actually growing because there are more older people every day (the baby boomers are getting older) and religious people are becoming increasingly disillusioned with the atheists and perverts that have taken over the Democrat agenda. If you mix in Obama's proclivity for Socialism, you get even more disillusioned Democrats. I have relatives that I consider to be pretty conservative, but I doubt that they would even dream of voting for anyone but a Democrat. I also think they still believe the old Democrat and Republican stereotypes, which are no longer true. They most likely watch someone like Charlie Gibson and think he is right on. If I did not know them better, I would think they are crazy even though they are well educated people. I really do not get it, how people can be so brainwashed and oblivious to the truth.

  • javadewd said on Oct 22, 2009....
    Yes, most libs have forgotten 9/11 or blames it on Bush. My God, how do these brainwashed lemmings get through the day. I mean, they lose their fucking keys and they blame Bush for it. He's been out of office for nine months. Have a fucking cow already!

    Personally I hope that the Republicans are shaking in their boots. They're still going to have to show some backbone if they want the presidency, but as far as 2010, I think most conservatives will throw everybody out of congress for the sake of the Republic. Everybody from Reid to McCain might as well be packing their shit now. They've fucked up on too many occasions and the idea of "reforming" the party into a bunch of spineless moderates that suck Obama's schlong has infuriated those who gave them the benefit of the doubt in 2006 & 2008. Change? Oh, yeah... Just not the kind that Obama wanted, that's all.

    Boy, I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Obama's office the night of the 2010 congressional elections when the board floods red! It will be like a public neutering. Caligula!
  • pickersplock said on Oct 22, 2009....
    It worries me that the Obama administration is devoting so much of their time to FOX news and Rush Limbaugh.
  • javadewd said on Oct 22, 2009....
    As oppose to say... Afghanistan? Oh yeah, it's very worrisome!
  • curmudgeon said on Oct 22, 2009....
    And then of course I hear our dear President say on the radio today that we Republicans don't think for ourselves, that we just do what we're told to do and that the liberals are the freethinkers.

    I will never ever vote for him. Never. The Republicans could put up a Nazi, the Libertarians could put up a KKK member and I still would not vote for Obama. I'd sit out the election in that case.

    Because President Obama thinks so little of me simply for being on the other side of the political fence, I am very close to simply saying fuck him. I am very close to saying he is not my President, and I will not lend my voice to anything he supports. So far all he's shown is that he represents his political cronies and that's it. He does not live up to the American ideals I grew up to love.
  • javadewd said on Oct 22, 2009....
    That's marginalization for you. It's like a sixth grade bully, isn't it. I used to beat up sixth grade bullies in first grade. It's time to pack a lunch.
  • ALIENated said on Oct 23, 2009....

    ... I hear our dear President say on the radio today that we Republicans don't think for ourselves ...

    That is really funny considering the whole liberal world has gone crazy listening to morons like Al Gwhore, Al Sharpton, and Jessie Jackson, just to name a few. A conservative like Rush Limbaugh is denied basic freedoms because people like them (Sharpton, Jackson) throw out the race card. Nancy Pellosi tells her leftist followers that common citizens showing up at town hall meetings are Nazis. Leftists fall for any drivel the liberal media spews out about Bush or the wars in the Middle East, all the torture nonsense, on and on and on. What color is the sky in Obama's world? What a joke this guy is. His inexperience is beginning to show in so many ways.

  • javadewd said on Oct 23, 2009....
    I don't know who's more dangerous anymore, Al Qaeda or brain-dead far-left liberals. They are two sides of the same coin. Matter and anti-matter, once the rest of us in between are gone they'll simply annihilate each other! They should be kissing our ass. In fact, hey, George Soros, kiss my ass!
  • stopmediabias said on Oct 23, 2009....
    I am so smug when it comes to Liberals that I honestly believe a true critical thinking Liberal who reads many different sources and looks at all sides of the issues doesn't exist.  We have reached a point where there are two completely different sets of rules for every issue, one for Liberals and a different ones for Conservatives. 
     
    Scandals destroy Republicans and embolden Democrats. (Barney Frank, Bill Clinton, William Jefferson)
     
    Only Republicans can make racist comments while Democrats can say anything.  (Sotomoyer, Jackson, Sharpton)
     
    When people die in a war under a Republican the Republican is a murderer but under a Democrat, nothing because the media doesn't cover it.  (The war in Iraq made Bush a murderer but the bombing of innocents in Pakistan gets no press.)
     
    Republican past associations and slip-ups are viewed through a giant magnifying glass while Democrat's are just passed off.
     
    A booming economy with 5% unemployment is a struggling economy while a financial meltdown where the economy is bleeding jobs and unemployment is reaching 10% is showing signs of recovery.
     
    The list is endless and ordinary Americans suffer either by their own ignorance or the dreadfull policies that come as a result.
  • javadewd said on Oct 23, 2009....
    That's because conservatives are suppose to have morals. It's easy to be a liberal. You don't have to even have a grasp of the meaning of the word "is." When a conservative makes a mistake it's like falling off a cliff into a big pool of shit. When a liberal makes a mistake, they didn't have to fall very far to hit that big pool of shit because most of the time that's where they dwell anyway. The bar for conservatives is naturally higher because we are to live what we believe, whereas liberals don't believe in a bar and want equality because they suck at reaching any sort of bar. They'll claim that it's unfair and call the NAACP while throwing down the race card.
  • ALIENated said on Oct 23, 2009....

    Those are great observations. I saw a list similar to that contrasting conservatives and liberals. I think it helps to put things into words so people can wrap their minds around it. There are things that I know are wrong, or just not right somehow, but I cannot put my finger on it. Then I hear someone on TV or the radio, or on the internet (here for example) who puts it into words and you realize the truth when you hear it.

    Liberals are slaves to political correctness for one thing. Saying something politically incorrect at a Hollywood party or a meeting of college professors would be like throwing a lamb into a tank filled with sharks. That poor little politically incorrect statement would not hang in the air long before it, and you, would be ripped to shreads. It is almost funny to watch. If you watch Comedy Central very much, you see it all the time. They have shows that are basically just comics doing stand up. Most of them might as well be reading from the liberal handbook. They spend half an hour validating the liberals in their audience. Very few of them make it far without bashing Bush or Cheney. I am not sure what they are going to do now. They must be hurting like Rush Limbaugh during a Republican presidency. However, Rush was lucky that the first Republican president after he hit it big was George Dubya Bush, quasi-conservative. There was plenty about Bush that conservatives could bash as well since he did little of what he promised to do during his campaigning for president. I cut him some slack because his presidency was waylayed by 9/11 and the Middle East mess, but he was still not my idea of a conservative president. I suppose the best presidents head back toward the middle when they become president. That is probably the fair thing to do. If only Obama would do that instead of trying to flip us to Socialism / Communism. If this was the senior year of high school, Obama would easily be voted Most Likely To Fuck Up A Sure Thing. I suppose when you are raised by people like the people Obama was raised by, there is not much else you can do.

  • javadewd said on Oct 23, 2009....
    Was that the one that said conservatives look for ways to defeat criminals while liberals look for ways to protect them? That's always a good one...

    I never understood the idea behind "political correctness." There is the right thing to do and then there is the way to circumvent it. The latter brings up things like "artificial language" (i.e. The Fairness Doctrine) and "loop holes" that are just a "creative" way of simply lying. It pisses me off that whenever I ask a liberal what their definition of the word "is" is, they can't simply answer with the truth : "to be." They always have to fucking argue it like a rabid gerbil on crack!

    I like a good joke as much as the next guy. I even find Jon Stewart to be quite humorous when I catch him as my wife is flipping channels, but when I see liberals taking him at face as though everything he spews is some sort of gospel it sickens me. I even research Glenn Beck's stuff before I take it to heart. When I bring up Ron White, everybody thinks I'm nuts, but for a conservative comedian he makes some good points.

    I only cut GW slack because I actually had the opportunity to meet the guy, and after a gratuitous five minute conversation, I can honestly say that the man is not an idiot. He did do some less than adequate things towards the end, but we're all human, and he didn't get a blow job off some young intern in my tax-dollar funded oval office, so that scores some kudos with me at least.

    Obama is an excellent fund-raiser. I was telling somebody else this morning in a thread that he would have made one very kick-ass "Karl Rove" type character for a different president in 2008 if he would have just stepped back from the mic and kept doing what he was doing so well. Instead, pompus, smug and over-zealous as any far-left liberal loon, he took the office with absolutely no experience... And it shows... Now more than ever.

    Endure we must!
  • Cussane said on Oct 24, 2009....

    i personally dont think there is a majority of liberals or conservatives, i think america has a lot of liberal conservatives and conserverative democrats who base thier vote on what effects them directly (jobs, health care etc) rather than what effects america,. the real problem, as sad as it sounds is the dem's have a hell of a lot better PR machine than the republicans and lets face it the average american gets most of the information they need to make a sound decision from sound bites rather than thru dillegent research.

    the conservative groups need to get a new leader who can connect with the people on a personal level and bring the message forward that they are not the big scary bogeymen that obama on company have made them out to be

    just my 2 cents worth

    sorry for the spelling, but it has been a night of wobbly pops

     

    Cussane

  • ALIENated said on Oct 24, 2009....

    ... the dem's have a hell of a lot better PR machine than the republicans ...

    Yet, since about the time TV came along, Republicans have spent more time in the White House. Starting about 1952 ...

    Eisenhower       8                     Kennedy / LBJ        8
    Nixon / Ford      8                     Carter                  4
    Reagan / Bush  12                     Clinton                 8
    Bush                8
    ----------------------            ------------------------
                         36                                              20
    

    The voters see through all the spin. It only takes a couple of years for everyone to realize why Democrats should not be president. Hopefully, they will eventually realize why they should not be Senators, Representatives, Governors, or judges either.

  • Cussane said on Oct 24, 2009....
    while i agree with your first post, your last post fails to take into account, tv saturation over the years, internet which helped obama greatly so i dont think it is fair or balanced to compare a 50's, 60's or 70's or early 80's to today. i mean lets face it without the star power of ophrah, steven spielberg , clinton, the baldwin brothers or bruce springsteen would the dem's be where there are today cussane
  • ALIENated said on Oct 24, 2009....

    I agree that the media is on the side of liberals and Democrats. I am saying that Republicans have dominated the White House in spite of that. If there was a neutral media, a media that was truthful about Democrat legislation, ideas, etc., I doubt that Democrats would ever be in the White House.

  • D6fer said on Oct 25, 2009....
    I think Obama has bitten off way more than he can chew attacking fox ......I think he thinks that he is more popular than he really is.

    On the other hand, I have said from early on that he doesnt expect to be President for a second term.....that is why they are trying to ram all of this bullshit legislation down our throats so quickly.

    Liberals/progressives are the biggest lying conniving bunch on the planet....... now once again they have gone too far and will lose....2010 and 2012 will mark a big political swing, and one that will stick for a generation.
  • ALIENated said on Oct 25, 2009....

    I think Obama and company are trying to operate like the Clintons did. They tried to stay on top of everything that happened and to immediately spin the story in their direction. I figure they will start blackmailing people at FOX News pretty soon. The liberal media is already attacking Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh with both barrels. If liberal personalities were held up to the scrutiny conservative personalities are held up to, there would not be any of them left. I saw Al Sharpton the other day on MSNBC (I think it was) saying that he was going to sue Rush for mentioning some of the racist crap Al has said over the years. Of course, Sharpton denies it all, but we will see.

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