• ALIENated said on Oct 21, 2009....

  Fart-akhan proves once again what a moron he is. How can a leader like him spout such gibberish and false information and still have anyone listen to him? I have heard several doctors (and the Surgeon General of California, I believe it was) say that the H1N1 shots are as safe as any other flu shots. Fart-akhan should be held responsible for every person that dies because of his lame advice. Of course, he will be held responsible in hell, where he is no doubt going if there is any justice in the afterlife. Calling it a plot to kill people is especially stupid. People from the Obama administration are no doubt managing (at least high up) all this sort of thing these days. What good would such random killing do anyone, Democrat or Republican? It would be like firing a shotgun into a crowd and hoping you kill the enemy and not your comrads. If I did not know he was capable of such hate speech, I would doubt that you heard him correctly or maybe heard it second or third hand, and something was lost in the translation.

  And keep on dreaming about Obama being re-elected. The only way that will happen is if the Republicans trot out someone like Bob Dole or Sarah Palin. He might make it a second term if Republicans take back congress next year and end up making him look good as they did with Clinton. With any luck, someone like Ronald Reagan will percolate to the top of this dung heap we call politics.

• SeanRenaud said on Oct 21, 2009....

  1.  Duh he's an idiot.  He won't be held responsible for any deaths cus there won't be any.  H1N1 has already shown itself to be a weaker flu than normally goes around or haven't you noticed?  This flu is bitch shoes.  But other than that we agreed.
  
  2. LoL.  Yeah you're still huffing that same shit that made you think Obama wasn't gonna win in the first place.  When you come down reality kinda needs ya.
  

• ALIENated said on Oct 21, 2009....

  I meant he should be held responsible for any flu deaths of people who did not take the vaccine. However, you are probably right about the flu. I think it is all what I call the Katrina Syndrome. Politicos are so afraid of being blamed for some natural disaster (like hurricane Katrina) or not being on top of it (whatever that means), they are going overboard on every possible problem that might be out there.

  I think everyone now knows that Obama is not as squeaky clean as they thought during the campaign. Plus, Jesus Himself might not be able to pull us out of this unemployment deal and hopefully Obama will be blamed for it. I say hopefully because liberals and the liberal media have a way of looking over his (and every other liberal's) shortcomings. Hey, if the guy did not have such warped ideas about Socialism, Communism, and America in general, not to mention his inexperience and what that is likely to cause, I might vote for him next time. And that is about the only reason he might be re-elected. Occasionally we re-elect losers (like Clinton) simply because they are the evil we know, which is better than the evil we do not know. We just have to keep an eye on Obama and make sure he does not sell out America, however we do that.

• SeanRenaud said on Oct 22, 2009....

  Cept Clinton wasn't a loser.  Bush was.  And we all know why Bush won.  You don't changes horses mid war.  Hell somehow despite it being his throne he nearly lost in 2000. 
  
  Besides most economists see us pulling out of this economic slump throughout 2010.  Employment has always and will always be a lagging indicator.  You don't fire your employees after one or two bad months it has to be several.  And at the same time you don't hire on new workers the first time you have a good month.  You don't hire them on until it becomes pretty obvious that your current work force can't handle the work.  (which on a side note is why trickle down economics doesn't work in reality.  Most of the trickle goes then and goes now to Britney Spears.  I mean by all means if she is the poor people you meant to uplift.  If not that theory has been tested and thoroughly proven to be bullshit over the last thirty years.
  

• ALIENated said on Oct 22, 2009....

  Clinton and Bush are pretty good representatives of what we should and should not want in a president. Clinton (like Obama) was about promoting himself and maybe his party. Bush was about protecting and promoting his country at the cost of his reputation and his place in history.

  As far as trickle down economics, Reagan's methods create good, quality jobs, jobs that require an education and jobs that pay well. Obama's methods might produce some cash for clunkers and some minimum wage jobs building highways or bridges or planting trees. Reagan wanted to let people and companies spend their own money to fuel the economy. Democrats want to tax us and spend it to promote their agenda and reward their supporters.

  And Fart-akhan is right about Obama being the American president. However, the number of Americans he represents is growing smaller every day. If he keeps lying and trying to force Socialism on us, his numbers will get smaller and smaller.

• SeanRenaud said on Oct 22, 2009....

  That's just it Reagans Methods don't produce good quality jobs.  It sends good quality jobs over seas.  Obama's methods create oodles of minimum wage jobs, suck workers out of the market, and force businesses to pay higher jobs. 
  
  Trickle down looks great on paper but it doesn't work. 
  

• ALIENated said on Oct 23, 2009....

  Jobs are going overseas because union workers are pricing themselves out of the market. Look at the automobile industry in America. Unions have helped to run our auto industry (the greatest in the world at one time) into the ground with their ongoing demands. I have never been in a union and have made a pretty good living (until Obama took over) because I am paid for what I do, not what some union boss thinks I should be paid because I have been around for 10 or 20 years. If I had not done what I was paid to do, I would have been fired. If union workers had to work under those conditions, I might still be buying American cars. I made the mistake of buying my child an American car and I am still regretting it. What a piece of junk. That is pretty indicitive of liberal policies to jump in and try to artifically influence something. The housing market is a perfect example. Letting people buy a house they cannot afford for nothing down leads to the crash we had last year. Blame it on Republicans if you like, but you are only fooling yourself. That policy was created by Democrats, like it or not. And, as I understand it, Democrats / Socialists are letting Fannie and Freddie go right back to that policy. Can that be true? Do they never learn? I do not think Bush was the economist that Reagan was, but his move to cut taxes fueled the economy for years. One man can ride a horse, and maybe two, but the more you pile on, the less likely it is that the horse is going to keep working. The same goes for taxes. Companies and individuals can stand a little tax and still be prosperous, but there is a limit. It is better to get ten percent of a prosperous business than to try to get 30 or 40 percent of a business that no longer exists because it went under trying to make it on 60 percent. Liberals, with all their claims of superior education and intellect, cannot understand this simple concept. Of course, there are so many simple concepts that liberals cannot understand, it is almost laughable. The healthcare changes they are trying to make are another good example. All they have to do is look to Canada to see what a disaster their plans will be, but they would rather pretend that healthcare in Canada is fine, when it is not, or that it will be different here. Something for nothing is a myth. We will either get something for something (higher and higher taxes) or we will get nothing (rationing of services). Numbers do not lie. Two plus two equals four and no liberal can change that, not even his majesty, lord and chairman Obama, Nobel Peace Prize winner.

• SeanRenaud said on Oct 23, 2009....

  Your mixing apples and oranges here.  You're not wrong that Unions have ruined themselves.   That isn't even a truly debatable point. 
  
  However it's not just union jobs that we've started loosing.  And during the "good old days" the rich were stuck with 90% taxes and it worked just fine.  And I don't want to go back to that point but the rich can take a LOT of taxes and ignore it.
  
  
  

• ALIENated said on Oct 24, 2009....

  The rich can find a lot of loopholes and tax shelters. Who do you think makes our laws ... rich people. How many poor politicans do you know? Not many. That is always one of my points. The rich did not get rich by paying taxes. They shelter their money and middle class smucks like us pay the taxes. Face it. Taxes are the thing liberals use to make everyone do the stupid shit they want to do ... homo crap, abortion, yadda yadda yadda.

  And I may have misjudged the unions. I heard someone say recently that some of the big unions are not in favor of Obamacare. Can that be true? It does not sound right. Most unions get good insurance from their employers. The union bosses are probably smart enough to know that they will all be paying more if the government takes it over. Now they get it free. Obamacare will mean higher taxes, which is not something they can fuck over their employers for.

• SeanRenaud said on Oct 25, 2009....

  You make a quality point about tax shelters.  And We need to close as many of those as we can find. 
  
  Hey Obamacare has proven time and time again to be fucked up.  And it seems unlikely it will pass unless there are major changes to it.  It's amazing he can fuck up something as simple as the UHC.  but oh well.
  

• ALIENated said on Oct 27, 2009....

  And, as I have said repeatedly, only a goofball would not want cheaper healthcare, but this whole thing has never been about healthcare. Obama does not give a shit for America or its citizens as he proved on his "Apology World Tour". Obamacare is about bigger government, wreaking capitalism, and moving to Socialism or/and Communism. True Democrats / liberals do not want to see that. If so much can be saved by cutting Medicare waste, why not do that? No laws would even have to be passed. Just do it. Why? Because that is a lie. Lots could be saved, but the incompetence of big government keeps it from happening. As I heard someone say on the radio tonight, the problem with healthcare is that it has gotten so expensive. Government taking it over will not change that. It will only make it worse. Price controls do not work, which would only leave rationing. Look at the public school system. It is free, but is it really? Anyone who sends their kids to public school ends up getting kids with an education based on political correctness and liberal bullshit like Darwinism and Tommy Has Two Dads. Democrats / Socialists, like Obama, just want new ways to control our lives and to justify raising taxes.

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