• beyondtheveil said on Oct 19, 2009....

  I can certainly see your point. When I went to college it was much better, but even then in my freshman year I had two profs who were alcoholics. One used to constantly cross his legs and stick his foot in the trash can and knock it over. After grading papers, he would post 'cartoons' on it.
  
  The other one would on more inebriated days, which were often, roll up a paper and peer through it like a telescope and giggle at us.
  
  Profs are strange people.
  
  
  

• Hegemone said on Oct 19, 2009....

  That has got to be so damn frustrating.  I hate having a teacher who you can tell obviously does not give a damn.  The way education is going, and how hard it is to afford it, and for how little you get, that's what's making it so hard for me to even try to go back.  It's part of what pushed me out in the first place.  I no longer could afford it, and it's just getting worse and worse now.  Ugh.  

• curmudgeon said on Oct 19, 2009....

  It happens in the private world, too. I had a professor I really liked switch out of a required course at the beginning of a semester. It really sucked to lose a great professor and have to deal with a mediocre one.
  

• Eilan said on Oct 19, 2009....

  I strongly believe that you can get a high-quality education at any college or university, regardless of whether it's public or private.  Sure, you get some dud professors--everyone who's been to college has had at least one--but overall, the experience is what you make of it. 
  
  Keep in mind that at large public universities, most full-time professors are there to bring in money to the university and advance research/reputation in a particular area of study.  The actual teaching is usually done by adjuncts and grad assistants.
  
  Hang in there and good luck.
  

• curmudgeon said on Oct 20, 2009....

  Eilan - that professors don't really teach but secure lifetime jobs is really bothersome, considering that a great many teaching assistants are grad students themselves and NOT professional educators.
  
  I remember during my undergrad years taking a symbolic logic course in which the TA didn't even speak English! Yeah, I dropped that one real quick.
  
  For me, the whole university model ought to be scrapped in favor of distance and electronic learning and smaller, more ubiquitous centers of learning, especially in economically challenged parts of our cities and in the nation. What is important is the knowledge and information and what people do with it, not where they went or who they studied with.
  
  Moreover, I am sick to death of tenured professors who preach socialism in class while reaping the benefits of the capitalists who donated the fores land on which most universities were founded, who force captive students to invest small fortunes in stupid textbooks when most information is free online, and support their upper middle class lifestyles. Proletarians these profs are NOT.
  

• silver_phoenix said on Oct 20, 2009....

  beyond- hey there buddy! I sooo needed that laughter right there. Thanks. And yeah, weird...and I'd rather put up with a drunk prof then what I got :P
  
  Hege~ hey! I don't want to total discourage you from ever going back. Just to be informed of what it's like so you can deal with it. :)
  
  Eilan~ I think that is partially true, and for the most part I think you can get a pretty decent education. It does get frustrating when you end up with more poor teachers than good ones though. As for my major, all profs are required to at least hold Master's degrees in their area and most of them are Doctorate holders. I just think this one prof is burned out and should be retired.
  

• silver_phoenix said on Oct 20, 2009....

  curm- thanks, and I agree with you on distance and electronic learning. To me, it hearkens back to the way people centuries ago used to be educated in Europe. Such as, the different artist schools, academies, I believe they were called. There was more focus on being sure each individual was understanding and learning then. Now, it's every student for him/herself. If you don't understand something the way the prof explains it, you are screwed because the prof doesn't have another way to explain it.  I, too, am disgusted with profs beating me up with their political viewpoints. Happens every day!

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