This is a simple question, but is your answer that simple?
mixednuts posted on Oct 06, 2009
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Hegemone said on Oct 07, 2009....
No, my answer is not simple. Do I agree that it should be made legal? I do, but with conditions, lots of them, but they wouldn't be the type of conditions that make it as impossible as when it is illegal, just enough so that the right users are being allowed to use it for the right reasons. -
mixednuts said on Oct 07, 2009....
Hege- who are the "right users" in your opinion? -
mixednuts said on Oct 07, 2009....
I do not use, but I know of many wonderful people who do smoke pot. In a so called free country it should be legal! Notice that the *taxed drugs ( cigarettes,alcohol etc.) are legal The *untaxed drugs like pot are illegal. Go figure! -
Hegemone said on Oct 07, 2009....
I do see your point you raise. So far as the right users ... hard to say, lol, which is why I didn't go into it. I think age needs to be factored in, it seems the younger people are, the more prone they are to abusing. For youthful people who need it medically (cancer, glaucoma, etc.), exceptions should be made. For youths who claim they are using it responsibly, maybe they should have to undergo some sort of SOMETHING to prove they're not just trying to get the right to use it for kicks. So for instance, here, you get your driver's license at 16, tobacco at 18, and liquor at 21, maybe you can get marijuana at 30. This is just the tip of the ice burg though. -
mixednuts said on Oct 07, 2009....
Hege- Age limits are fine. 21 seems to be fine, or even 18. If you are old enough to fight and die in a war you should be old enough to smoke that joint!PEACE! -
mixednuts said on Oct 07, 2009....
Of course when I said "legal for everyone" I was talking about adults! -
Hegemone said on Oct 07, 2009....
Right, but you've got to keep in mind 'What constitutes adulthood?' Maybe even more stipulations ... 30 years unless you're in some branch of the military (and similar careers)? -
mixednuts said on Oct 07, 2009....
We can have a age limit! What's the age to vote? -
simplyconfused said on Oct 07, 2009....
Yes. -
mixednuts said on Oct 07, 2009....
simply- r[ght on! -
StoneMaster said on Oct 07, 2009....
Hmmmm.....let me think......hmmmm......NO! >>>>>>>>>Geez that would take half the fun out of it. -
UnicornForm said on Oct 07, 2009....
yeah.love is legal and yoou see what that does to people. -
shiningstar said on Oct 07, 2009....
When prohibition ended and liquer became legal moonshining ended. This proves, to me, that the same thing will happen when pot is legal. The war on drugs is a farce and has destroyed many more lives than it has ever saved. War never helps anything. That energy of we must fight everything keeps us in opposition to what we do want;peace. I personally dislike drugs legal or illegal. The only difference between them is what those in power decree. They make money both ways. To end the criminalization of pot and other illegal drugs would end the high rate of prisoners in the jails of America mostly black and teenagers. It would end the outrageous tax increases that taxpayers pay out to build more and more jails and increase the "justice" system. In my opinion the government doesnt like the competition but needs it in order to keep them in power for they are always chasing that ever so elusive big time drug runner. Just like the moonshiners of long ago.If we had all of the money paid out over the last 10 years alone for "drug" enforcement we could pay off the national debt. -
ALIENated said on Oct 07, 2009....
No. We have enough problems with alcohol, tobacco, and other drugs. Plus, I do not want to see a shortage of Ding Dongs and Hostess Cupcakes. We have enough drunks on the highway as it is. We do not need a bunch of stoners out there going five miles an hour on the freeway. It is one thing to get drunk and spend the next morning promising God you will never do it again. It is another thing to get stoned and spend the next couple of days going over the movie you really got into the night before. "Wow, what if everyone but me really is an ALIEN robot? Would that be freaky or what? Hey, my boss acts exactly like that one robot ALIEN. Good thing I cut work today. Any why does she keep calling here, man?" Not that that has ever happened to me.
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wombat said on Oct 07, 2009....
Notice that the *taxed drugs ( cigarettes,alcohol etc.) are legal The *untaxed drugs like pot are illegal. Go figure!
I never realized this, or rather never thought hard enough about it. I am still stuck on the concept of what are considered "drugs" as opposed to "doing drugs."
Plenty of people are out there driving hyped up on legally subscribed pain pills etc.. right along with those partiers who just left the bar high on mood enhancers, Miller High Life, and maybe one toke from a friend just before they got behind the wheel.
When I was a kid in grade school back in the early 60's, I heard about "drugs."
I couldn't understand why people would want to take medicine to feel good, unless it was to get better from an illness. Just didn't make sense to me.
But then I got older and I drank some, smoked some (well not in a long time) but I never took a pill that the doctor didn't subscribe.
Pot is only subscribed by doctors for chemo patients, as far as I know, but I would at least logically call it "doing drugs" if you took it otherwise.
What a confuzzled issue!
But if they legalize it, I may be one of those out there causing an accident.
So far these last several years I stay home and drink a beer or two, but I remember the days of smoking and was way more worried about the pot than the alcohol. (guilt of the illegality)
Ok, I get it. Stay home. Drink whiskey, smoke pot, take an anti-depressant, sniff the hand-sanitizer......
Just don't drive.
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fragglesrock said on Oct 07, 2009....
It's too complicated to say "yeah, just go ahead and legalize it" So, how'd you like that, not a yes or a no :)
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mixednuts said on Oct 07, 2009....
Is it all about the money? -
shiningstar said on Oct 08, 2009....
The thing is, many, many people are already driving while on both legl and non-legal drugs. They are still driving drunk. I never knew a pot smoker that did not drink.Pot is a so called "gateway" drug. It is the beginning of the esculation to heroin and coke. But since it seems everyone is on some kind of drug we have not created a personal resistance to drugs. How many people climb out of bed every morning and take their Tylenal, asperin or Aleve? How many take both over the counter and prescrition drugs? It seems everyone is on their drugs of choice. How many "accidents" are caused by muscle relaxors and depressants and antidepressants? Remember that the highest death rate for children in the USA is overdoses of asperin? We look away from the facts and just keep on doing the same thing expecting different results. Putting people in jail will not stop drugs. A bigger police force or better laws will not stop drugs. As long as we judge one drug as better or more legal than another we miss the lesson of why people need drugs at all and fail to heal our society by ending the things that produce a country over run with drugs of every sort. -
ALIENated said on Oct 08, 2009....
I think you are confusing medication and drugs. People need medication to relieve pain, etc. (obviously some just take it to get messed up). I take Advil for back pain, etc. That is nothing like smoking weed to get high. That is the "everybody sins so let us just sin and be happy" argument. Apples and oranges. We would have fewer people in jail for murder if we legalized murder. Same for rape and robbery. Do we really need to go down that road? However, I would not put weed in the same category as cocaine, heroin, etc., but I think it is a doorway to those things. Most people do really bad things after trying similar, not so bad things. The high of weed is not enough after a while. My recomendation would be ... the punishment for smoking weed should be counceling, the punishment for selling weed should be a long prison term. Same for all drugs. Users sometimes cannot help themselves. Dealers can help themselves.
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mixednuts said on Oct 08, 2009....
ALIENated- As the song goes "I wanna New Drug"! -
UnicornForm said on Oct 08, 2009....
Alien- People use/need marijuana to medicate themelves. -
shiningstar said on Oct 08, 2009....
I am not confusing "medication" and drugs. That is the mindset that has to change. They are the same thing. Both kill or alieveate pain. One is legal. One is not. We have erased all warnings about drugs for this generation as kids are raised seeing parents and peers popping pills and smoking. What ever was the difference that they have seen. Popping anything to releve pain or discomfort isrt is still popping pills to relieve pain or discomfort. Let us seek to remove that which brings pain and discomfort. Is it poor food, poor habits, pain from abuse,poverty ect. Let us face the REAL issues instead of just puffing and p oping. Let us not pass laws and ruin peoples lives and their familes for buying or selling illegal drugs that is not the answer. Legalize it and at least it will destroy the drug dealers and the rampant crime on the streets from dealers and those so addicted they must steal and kill in order to get their next fix. -
ALIENated said on Oct 08, 2009....
Whatever. Most people do not consider weed a pain killer. I know some people use it for medicinal purposes, but that is the exception, not the rule. And there are people who abuse prescription and over-the-counter medications, but that is the exception as well. At least it is for me. If you need something to deaden youself to the world, maybe you need some couch time with a good therapist of the mental kind. If you are young, you will most likely grow out of it when your brain fully develops. That usually happens somewhere around age 40. Then you have maybe 20 years before your brain starts decomposing again. If the brain does not fully develop, the person usually remains a liberal for their entire adult life, which leads to dufuses like Obama being elected.
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simplyconfused said on Oct 08, 2009....
wombad - sniff the hand sanitizer BRILLIANT! -
shiningstar said on Oct 08, 2009....
Please simply confused get out in the world more often. Go to the police dept, the health dept, the hospital ers, ask the health care workers.What you think is the exception to the rule is the rule. People abuse drugs period. I repeat 100,oo children die EVERY YEAR from overdoses of asperin. More people die each year from legal drugs than those who die in auto accidents. People need to educate their own selves and understand the problems we face ,as a society, from drugs. The underground drug war have wiped out familes all over the world. Those who grow poppy are often forced to grow it as we, the American government have destroyed their land for other crops with chemicals. Wars have destroyed their land. Wars that we instigate, perpetuate and continue doing. -
bhalah said 10 days ago....
i guet that question, Shiningstar, wy people need take drugs?, i think you was the most close to the fact..
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