• uniquely-ironic said on Oct 05, 2009....

  it's all about carrying through with the discipline, no matter which method you use.

• starchini said on Oct 05, 2009....

  your aboslutly right uni, consistency is whats important.  Its not my place to say so so i just watch it happen and think "wow...i cant believe she is letting this happen"...Jordan would catch kyra doing something horrible like writing on walls with sharpies and tell her to go sit in time out .  Kyra would scream and sit for like 5 seconds.  shed jump up and do her next naughty thing, like dumping out my diaper bag.  Jordan would just say "No kyra, thats not yours" and ignore her.  Completly forgetting she was supose to be in time out and kyra was still messing with Remingtons things totally ignoreing that her mom said to stop it.  I was just in awe...but if super nanny was there, it woulda worked and kyra woulda listened : P

• Mr.Strange said on Oct 05, 2009....

  do either of you ever watch south park?
  
  a few years ago they did an episode about all the nanny, shows and came up with this.
  
  http://mrtwig.net/ep/1007.html
  
  It's a pretty awesome episode.
  
  I have found with the kids that I have worked with, trust, and respect tend to be all you need to get things moving.  Overly authoritarian figures lead to greater problems in the end.  Sure the kid listens now...
  
  What about a few years of living under that kind of boot?
  

• starchini said on Oct 05, 2009....

  Im not disagreeing with you at all.  I really do agree...but i dont think it  leads to greater problems all the time.  I think it depends, on lots of stuff...Id just like to add that my parents were very authoritative and strict but bc of that I respected and trusted them.  I never rebeled....I think its important to make sure your kid knows why you do what you do...bc you love them..,.

• Hegemone said on Oct 05, 2009....

  I've got to agree on consistency, just from my own parents' practical application vs. my husband's parents, well ... excuse for application.  My husband and his siblings are pretty used to whining, carrying on, wearing you down, and getting their way ... because that's what his mom and dad did.  Dad would punish, mom would feel sorry for them and lift the punishment.  My parents ... oh ... oh boy did I learn not to do that.  It gets SO boring sitting looking at a corner.  Even worse when you're 8 and they hand you the newspaper to read ... and there were no funnies included either!

• starchini said on Oct 05, 2009....

  oh hege, that had to be rough...no funnies!?  Torture...

• Mr.Strange said on Oct 06, 2009....

  The place as a parent it to help your children grow, as a gardener tends plants.
  
  I know plants, and many of the techniques transfer well to people of all ages.
  

• superbozo said on Oct 06, 2009....

  It's a great show lol It came out as my princess was born and thank god it did. Otherwise all I had to follow was my parents example and princess doesn't deserve that. As everyone has pointed out consistency is the key. Once princess realised that certain actions always receive the same respose Time out, confiscation of toys, removal of posters from bedroom walls etc everytime.
   
  The trick is learning what to punish and what to just ignore. Some petulant behaviour is attention seeking and the naughty spot can be used to get that attention if you are distracted. i.e. reading a book and princess is buzzing around me and always bumping or throwing things her reward is my putting the book down. Even an angry daddy is preferable over a distracted daddy.
   
  Your little fella looks great by the way.
   
  Good luck

• starchini said on Oct 06, 2009....

  righto mr strange.
   
  Thats cute super it looks like super nanny has had a positive effect on you.  One thing im sorta worried about is defining naughty behavior.  Im a verrry tolerant person, i dont mean tolerant in the way that im secretly annoyed but just put on a happy face.  I mean tolerant like, lots of stuff truly does not bother me at all.  Im worried we will go somewhere and someone will comment on how naughty Remi is because he double dipped a chip or ate some mud.  And ill be like "Gosh, i had no idea thta wasnt acceptable everywhere."....
   
  Like Jordan with Kyra.  The four of us went out to eat and Remi was a lil angel in his seat and I was watching jordan squeeze ketchup onto kyras fries.  Jordan set the bottle down and watched kyra pick it up and continue to dumpthe entire bottle on her plate that swirl her hands around in it and flop chunks of ketchup in her soda and stick her fingers in the soda and pull the blobs of ketchup back out and EAT IT...I was absolutly appauled....Jordan couldnt have cared less..."oh gosh, kyra really likes ketchup"....hmmm..."I see"...Some things are naughty to some and arnt to others....: >

• Fallyn said on Oct 06, 2009....

  super nanny is pretty cool.
  
  i couldn't make time outs work for my kids.... but i have made them work with other people's kids.....
  
  now i take their allowance away.
  they start out with 10 every two weeks.... if they don't listen or obey or hurt each other... fists or words... they lose a dollar.
  
  they can earn their allowance back by behaving themselves and going the extra mile and doing stuff that isn't on their chores list.
  
  by the time i was starting to be consistant with the time outs the kids were almost too old for it anyway.  .... i just didn't have the patience to MAKE them sit there.
  
  losing allowance hurts WAY more than having to sit anyway.
  
  
  

• starchini said on Oct 06, 2009....

  I agree fallyn, thats a goog technique : )  but i never had an allowance as a kid.  Not ever, some people think thats weird.  I dont know if ill let mine have an allowance...maybe.  What are the pros and cons of an allowance?

• Fallyn said on Oct 07, 2009....

  well, mostly it teaches them responsibility and gives incentives....
  
  
  

• Mr.Strange said on Oct 07, 2009....

  Kids are people, create an environment where people thrive, and surprise, surprise...Kids do well to.

• starchini said on Oct 07, 2009....

  no cons fallyn?  I had a checking account to teach responsibility but the only money I ever got as a kid was from birthdays and stuff.  I asked for an allowance before and my mom always told me "you will do what I ask bc im your mother and I shouldnt have to pay you to do what your supose to do"...ouch, lol, i didnt ask again, that made me feel guilty and selfish.  I spose it taught me to not expect a reward for doing what is expected of me.  Made me a little more receptive to the idea that my mom didnt employ me and I was to help bc she needed help. 

  I spose im a little vague though, some parents give an allowance just to give one so their kid has some money, others give an allowance only if their chores are done, i of course am talking about the later scenario. 

  My mom wasnt such a drill sergeant though, if i needed money for something she would just hand it to me. like to go to the bowling alley or a movie with my friends.  I never got more than what was needed for the function though, she made sure of that.  I spose she thought id go be naughty if i had a bunch of extra cash.  And I was when I found a way to milk more out of her...God that was horrible of me.  Id tell her i was gonna do two things and only do one thing and buy cigarettes with the extra...

  Mr. Strange-That is a pretty loose parenting technique.  People thrive in all kinds of scenarios and kids dont always do well.  If it was as easy as that parenting would be simple. 

   

• Mr.Strange said on Oct 08, 2009....

  I have helped raise several kids, I continue to work with children. I have helped plenty of adults as well.
  
  When we get over this idea that kids are just undeveloped people and treat them with respect, and kindness. Which equally works with adults, they do it back.
  
  Back in my childhood I was completely wild and out of control, I have walked that life. I was out of control because of neglect, and abuse. If you have "bad" kids usually it is not there fault, they are just being taught to operate that way.
  
  The experience is based on the teacher, a great teacher inspires great kids, and people for that matter.

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