bloc is on the torture bandwagon again ...
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Torturing is wrong and torturing someone to get them to say what you want them to say, or to confess to something, is clearly wrong. So what? Anyone that does something like that should be in big trouble. Is bloc expecting some sort of argument about that?
My question might be, how many cases like this have been uncovered? And, is there a possibility that the detainee was lying about all this?
And, of course, all this concern simply looks like political sour grapes considering the total denial of leftist liberals when it comes to our current president and his efforts to undermine our country. Lefties whine about our enemies POSSIBLY being "tortured" for no good reason and, at the same time, turn a blind eye to Obama's past history and his past associations with domestic terrorists (like William Ayers) and racist bigots (like Reverend Wright). It is like a drunk man leading an AA meeting.
If lefties cared a little more about the rights of American citizens and a little less about our terrorist enemies, someone might listen to them. Fighting terrorism and terrorists is an ugly business and mistakes are bound to be made, individuals are bound to do things that are wrong. That even happens in conventional wars -- people make mistakes and do bad things.
Do you hold FDR responsible for every mistake made in WWII or LBJ responsible for every mistake made in Vietnam? Considering the way lefties are overlooking what Mr. Obama does (like running down the U.S. on every possible occasion and trying to wreck our economy), we can only conclude that, if these mistakes had been made under a Democrat president, they would be blaming the individuals that did it, not the president or the vice president.
I think bloc truly cares about the U.S. torturing people. So do I. It is wrong. However, most lefties are just starting to head off any mention of Chaney as a Republican candidate for president (God forbid). With Palin, they had to wait for her name to be submitted before the character assassination and ridicule started. I have heard hints of Chaney being considered for 2012 and I am sure lefties have heard that also. So they are simply getting the ball rolling now instead of waiting for him to announce as a candidate.
Offering up Cheney would be a bigger mistake than offering up Palin. If that happens, I will join the lefties in rejecting him and I think most real conservatives, libertarians, and independents would join me.
So you leftie liberals have your "torture" trials and circle jerk. The rest of us will move on. Leaders who are messing up should be dealt with while they are messing up. Obama is our problem now, not Bush or Chaney. If you really care about the U.S. and liberty, you had better get with the current program, the current evil that lurks among us. You only think Bush was out to steal your freedom when in fact he was only out to defeat terrorists. On the other hand, Obama IS out to steal your freedom while you are facing backwards, worring about the past, which cannot be corrected. Wake up or you will be facing a past in which Obama has actually stolen your freedom while you were preoccupied with things that no longer matter.
