• D6fer said on Oct 11, 2009....

  As you can imagine, I listen to both programs at different times. So I think I know what is going on here.
  
  Savage is pissed that basically no other talk radio host will take up his fight against the British Government for wrongfully banning him from ever entering the U.K.  (So much for freedom of speech)
  
  Limbaugh has said nothing about the controversy no doubt because he is #1 and Savage very well may be #2, and does not want to give Savage the legs to be #1
  
  So it's a sticky situation for him. He had to make a decision to defend his position over freedom.....I can see both points.
  
  Shelter, you ever listened to the Savage Nation? I think you would find a lot more that you would agree with Dr. Savage than you would expect.....he is definitely different than Rush in regards to support of the Republican Party.
  
  He was one of Bush's biggest critics. 
  

• sheltercrow said on Oct 11, 2009....

  The British Home Office named hate promoters excluded from the UK and included a Michael Alan Weiner. Reason:
  
  
  Considered to be engaging in unacceptable behavior by seeking to provoke others to serious criminal acts and fostering hatred which might lead to inter-community violence.
  
  
  Of course they were right:
  
  
  Foment, justify or glorify terrorist violence in furtherance of particular beliefs; Seek to provoke others to terrorist acts; Foment other serious criminal activity or seek to provoke others to serious criminal acts or; Foster hatred which might lead to inter-community violence in the UK.
  
  
  You have always considered me as a liberal in progressive cloths. Their is a wide difference. A progressive supports a set of ideals, irrespective of the political party. A liberal, or conservative for that matter, supports a political party irrespective of the ideals.
  

• D6fer said on Oct 11, 2009....

  bullshit......progressive is liberal....just a name change .....anyone who listens to Savage on a regular basis knows that he has not said anything wrong....put down your liberal rags and give it a listen sometime....make that decision for yourself.
  
  The only violence we need to fear is that which brews inside the terror cells in our own country....and Savage isn't doing anything more than shining a light on those that hide behind supposed friendly organizations.
  
  It just dawned on me why you hate Savage....he is a Jew.
  

• sheltercrow said on Oct 12, 2009....

  I hate Jews? Please save the antisemitism stuff for the kiddies. It just makes you look stupid.
  
  I like the politics of progressive Jews. You know. The kind you've conveniently forgotten about. I've posted their articles here along with the other progressive pieces.
  
  As for Savage and Limbaugh, I get an attack of nausea whenever I hear their voices. It's for health reasons. Their stuff is not called 'sickening' without purpose.
  

• D6fer said on Oct 12, 2009....

  progressive....ha....you can put lipstick on a pig.....

• sheltercrow said on Oct 13, 2009....

  Dfer: What's the secret with all the periods?

• D6fer said on Oct 13, 2009....

  no secret......I find it an effective way to communicate.......gives an appropriate amount of pause between thoughts IMHO.......and it pisses off "intellectuals"......or mildly annoys them ;)
  
  btw.....I don't think Savage is fat.....he is somewhat of a health nut..... I believe he has several PHD's in nutrition..........and Limbaugh lost 80 some pounds recently and looks pretty good too......so your title is a bit inaccurate....I had to google bilious.....I guess one mans bile is another mans truth eh?
  
  

• D6fer said on Oct 17, 2009....

  its called progressiveness....it's the new liberalism dont you know?
  
  

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