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I know we've all had our fair share of traumatic experiences.  Some events might seem more traumatic than others, it all depends on who you are, what the event was, and how you personally handle it (whether that be controlled or not).  I can't say I've never had a traumatic experience.  I've had my fair share.

  • My home burned down when I was in kindergarten.  I was in the paper and on the news because we had just gone through a fire safety lesson and I knew what to do, and I did it.  I was the most calm little kid you could have ever seen with her home burning down.  My parents weren't even that calm, I was calming them.  Yeah, got a framed certificate of approval and everything.
 
I'd give all that recognition back for it to have never happened.  Not because of material possessions, but because of the animals we lost in the fire and the memories I hold.  Only one cat survived, and she lived to a ripe old age of 21.  I recently watched the recording of the interview my mom did for the news, and I cried, a lot.  It still plagues me, and not just because of watching the video, I watched the video because of some of the memories I had ... and recovered.

See, I'd always remembered glimpses of that night before a particular event.  I can tell you I'll never watch Ladder 49 again.  Sure, I'll give it the credit, it's a great movie ... but I won't watch it again.  I'll be damned if that movie didn't stir memories I didn't know I had.  I know they're not fabricated because I've asked my parents about them.  The stuff actually happened.  After 20 (give or take) years I remembered things that I didn't before.  I still am.  It's weird and confusing.  Let's move on to another event.
  • I was in the house when my grandmother died.  She was an RN, she knew what she wanted to do when the time came, so she opted to stay at home instead of going into a nursing home or the hospital, and she had hospice come in to care for her, along with my mother.  I remember parts of that night originally, but I've been remembering other pieces as well.

That, I will admit, does upset me outwardly.  It brings tears to my eyes and a swoop to my mood.  I remember scenes, as in, visually ... but I also have been FEELING that anguish when I remember the visual.  It's not like a movie without sound, like a lot of my memories about it are.  I recently remembered going outside and flipping absolute shit and throwing everything I could get my hands on.  I tore the back yard apart.  Then I took off.  I went walking down the street, crying, upset and just crushed.  Now I remember hearing my dad trying to talk catch up to me, trying to talk to me, and my inability to answer, like I was trapped in my brain.
  • I was also present when my husband's uncle passed.  Literally, we watched his last breaths.  I can see it just as clearly as if it were yesterday.  Lately though, there have been more and more little signs pointing to him.

Right after his uncle died it was the strangest thing.  We all know I'm an animal lover, and toads are included in that.  The very night he died I was outside and saw one hopping around.  I picked that little sucker up and for the first time EVER it just sat in my hand, looking at me.  It didn't pee on me, it didn't try to hop away, it didn't do anything.  It then started chirping at me.  I sat with it for a long time, occasionally petting it, and it would chirp even louder.  I even took it into the little shed with me to talk to my FIL and husband, and it sat right on a table next to me, not moving. 

Every once in a while it would chirp and then quiet back down.  Strangest damn thing.  Ever since then, I see toads and I give them much more respect than a normal person probably does.  They're now '"Uncle" Toads'.  Not all of them are, only certain ones.  The ones that chirp and stick around.  Usually it's with uncanny timing when I find one, but the message is still clear.  My husband, my FIL, my SIL and my BIL know about this too and each in their own way takes it to heart.  They all respect toads a little bit more, but when I pick one up and it reacts the way only an '"Uncle" Toad' does, they get a little quiet and change gears.  It's something I can't describe, and it's a little too intimate to even try to, so I'll leave it at that.


I want to know why I'm getting these memories all of a sudden.  I have dealt with each of these things, I've grieved, I've cried, I've talked about them.  It doesn't bother me to have a conversation about them.  Yet these new memory fragments, feelings, etc. are so confusing and upsetting when they hit.  Why now, why not before?  Why am I FEELING everything so much?  What the hell is all of this pointing to?

Have any of you ever experienced something traumatic, and years later, when you thought you were past it, been flooded with new memory of the event, feelings, etc.?

What did you do about it, or what did you think about it?


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  • cuppajava said on Sep 21, 2009....
    As you may well know,I have been there a few times myself,and yes - I am still dealing with it - but you just have to take it one step at a time and one day at a time.I know that sounds like  a cliche - but thats how it is
  • pusscat said on Sep 22, 2009....
    I found this post and your question so interesting Hege I have been googling this morning.  This was one of the main explanations that came up for why we should suddenly start recalling old memories that we believed we had dealt with already:

    "...Suppressed memories from childhood resurface due to adults experiencing or being in an environment similar to what the trauma was as a child. Why does this happen if the child handles the trauma well enough to forget it? Well a child cannot cope with certain traumas as they do not have the skills to do this and they handle it by forgetting it. And so as adults we feel the trauma all over again the same as we did as a child and we probably now have the skills to deal with it..."

    As you said, you have been recalling extra details now like your dad trying to talk to you, you smashing up things in the garden.  These were things that as a child you may not have really understood your behaviour.  As for memories that are resurfacing for you that happened when you were already grown up, I don't have an answer for that hun.  What I do know personally is, when I've been in an emotional state and stressed out for some time, the memories of my mum's death, seeing my very pale dad laid out under that ludicrous bright purple sheet in the hospital, and a sexual assault against me, all become much more clearer.
  • simplyconfused said on Sep 22, 2009....
    I shall be returning after choir to properly reply!! 
  • simplyconfused said on Sep 22, 2009....
    I shall be returning after choir to properly reply!! 
  • JennyRotten said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Hi Hege,
     
    this is something i've been meaning to blog about for ages, but i just haven't built up the courage yet. It sounds weird, but for me, the memory of the precise moment where all the repressed memoires came back to me affects me more perhaps than the actual original events. Just that feeling inside, feeling the whole world fall apart, like your own mind has been lying to you, or maybe trying to protect you.
     
    Anyway, I recently opened up about it to my boyfriend, the first person I've ever really talked to, and I thought I would be an emotional mess. But i wasn't. I was completely calm, and when I finished I felt like I was thinking more clearly and freely than I ever had.
     
    I know that one of the triggers for me is stress, and only now, after all these years,  am I starting to realise that the only way of really dealing with these things is talking them out, or writing it out etc. And that's the only advice I can really give, although I'm the last person to be giving advice on this subject. It's just a matter of time and patience....
     
    Hope you find something around here to help out a little :-)
  • destinydiva said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Have any of you ever experienced something traumatic, and years later, when you thought you were past it, been flooded with new memory of the event, feelings, etc.?

    What did you do about it, or what did you think about it?



    16 years ago, my boyfriend at the time was attacked by a good ten or so lads, all older, with baseball bats, bags filled with beer cans, sticks, ..it wasnt pleasant..  I was there and helpless...

    at the time it affected me greatly, I couldnt leave the house for about 6 months,
    scared it may happen again..  the guys that did it, their leader, for some strange reason hated me! my boyf told him to leave me alone..and a couple of nights later my boyfriend got the beating..

    I had panic attacks, saw a  councellor, and right up untill I was about 25, a good ten years or so later.. I was finally totally over my fear..  I think my theory on that was that I was in a shit marriage and often prayed for ten guys to come kick the shit out of my ex husband :-) lol ..

    anyways, a couple of weeks ago, for no reason whatsoever...no promts/triggers.. I had the most awful dream..

    my new husband was beaten up by a gang of lads..  he was thrown in a van when they had finished..again I felt helpless,   then they went..  I was walking towards the van not knowing if I would find my husband dead or alive..

    I woke up myself before I reached the van...  I guess I didnt want to see it...  I woke up sobbing my heart out, I went straight to my husband and gave him the hugest hug ever and shared my dream with him..  and was in tears for most of that day..   

    since that dream I can feel my fear slowly rising again.. determined to not give my life to fear I am fighting it off..  but it's there..

    what to do about it...  I wish I had the answers for you hege..  maybe it is just our minds way of saying right!!!  were dealing with these left over emotions you got hidden away right now! ..? 

     xxxx




  • queenparanoia said on Sep 22, 2009....
    very powerful post hegemone...brings back a lot of memories for me...

    now this is gonna be long but i hope you can read through it...

    more than 3 years ago me and my classmates went to a nearby island for a 2 day vacation. it was a treat for us because finals were over. the vacation was planned by me and my friend.

    that night my friend drowned.

    i could still remember the screams of my classmates when they called my name. shouting that our friend died. i could still remember when i saw his lifeless body taken out of the water and i saw blood coming out of his face. he died because when he dived into the water he hit a rock. it took 2 hours to find his body because it was submerged in the water. i still remember guarding his body. they couldnt put his body in the morgue because it was a shitty third world hospital and there were no family members there. i still remember the longest walk i ever made in my life. there i was holding my friend's hand while we watch our friend's body wheeled into a corner of the hospital. i still remember sitting in the corner with my other friend as we watched my friend's lifeless body and wishing that he was only asleep and he will wake up any time soon. i still remember seeing his spirit telling me "it's going to be okay." i dont care what everybody thinks but yes i saw his spirit and his guardian angel was with him. i saw a bright tunnel if you call it. i still remember the days afterwards... how i wanted to kill myself after one week becaused i blamed myself for his death. i was steps to actually doing it but my friend called and she saved my life by talking me out of it. i still remember that in two months after his death i flew to manila to be with my family and lock myself in the room... for two months... i remembered i developed a phobia for zombies because of this event... and i remembered that two and half years ago my friend who held my hand told me about soulcast because he knows i love to blog and i need to release and accept his death.

    yes i joined soulcast because of him. i miss him a lot. and there are days that i wished that i was the one who died and not him. and there are days like today, at this moment where my life is completely shit that i wished he was still alive. my life exchange for his.

    i know it's only been a few years but i forgave myself. i accepted the fact that it was an accident and i know that there is something big meant for me. maybe that's why i'm still alive.

    there are moments like today where i felt his presence and putting my hand in my shoulder telling me that's its going to be okay.

    did my life changed after this event? yes. because after this trauma it made me a better person. it made me a person to chase my dreams and pursue my happiness in life. he taught me that. when he was alive he was always happy because he was doing what he wants in life. and i'm doing that right now in my life even if it's hard...

    anyway this is getting too long.. sorry... just something i need to share with you...
  • CreativeWoman said on Sep 22, 2009....
    I've had my fair share of traumatic experiences.  I think those events leave imprints on our souls.  Our minds only let us remember what we can handle at the time.  Later, other things may be revealed to us because we are now ready to deal with them.  It is the process of healing and evolving. 

    I don't see it as a bad thing.  If it doesn't surface, you don't know you need to let it go.

    CW
  • Hegemone said on Sep 22, 2009....
    CJ - True enough, that's for sure.  That's how I try to handle it, but I keep getting stuck on that 'Why' question I think.

    PC - That does make sense why now I'm recalling some of the things from when I was younger.  But yeah, I'm still stumped as to why the newer memories are also coming in loud and clear in reference to the things that happened once I was an adult.  Weird stuff I tell ya.

    Simply - Well I can't wait for your reply.

    Jenny - I totally get what you're saying!  Yeah, it's like the actual instance that I recall a new memory is more upsetting than the original event even was.  I am finding also that the more I just deal with it, talk about it, explore it, etc. the better I feel about it.  Which is probably also why it confuses me so much, purely because I'm OK with all of it, but still these little things pop up and that in itself freaks me out.  One big confusing bubble, but like CJ said, I'm dealing with it one day at a time, and like you suggest, I am actually dealing with it.  Can't argue with that.

    Des - Wow, that would be really traumatic.  Maybe your brain flashed that dream to you because subconsciously you're worried that something will go wrong within THIS marriage and you'll feel resentment towards your husband (haven't seen him around here in a while either, by the way) like in your last marriage?  I dunno, but hey, I think you're doing awesome by not letting the fear get a hold of you.   I think I'm just going to stick with getting it out and at least not suppressing it, that'd probably be a whole lot worse.

    Queenie - Well thank you for sharing that, I'm sure it wasn't easy.  I admire you for making it through that experience.  I can see your point though that even though it was traumatic, it changed your life and it pushes you to do bigger, better things.  You're definitely a fighter, I can see that much.  I'd like to think that I too can make a good opportunity out of these events and memories of mine, and instead of them just bothering me, maybe I can learn from them and make a difference in my own life.  I hope.  Thank you again for sharing that Queenie.  ((HUGS))

    CW - I can totally agree with that, sort of like what PC said, that the memory only gets released when we can actually handle it.  I'm hoping I can process these things, learn from them and move on in a positive, optimistic light as opposed to anything else.  I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing either, just a little painful sometimes, but not all the time so that's OK.
  • uniquely-ironic said on Sep 22, 2009....
    I think everyone has covered the reason why things pop up regarding traumatic events years later.  The mind is wonderful in that it tries to protect you from things that might be too much for you to handle.  I've never recovered new memories, but I am often caught off guard by a smell or a sound that is linked to a traumatic event.
  • Hegemone said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Uni - Yup, I think we've gotten to the bottom of what causes it.  Now I'm just sort of pondering what exactly it is that tells my brain 'OK, she can handle it now.'  What happened that triggered it, ya know?  That's not stressing me or anything, that's just me being ever curious, lol.  I tell you sometimes I think entirely too much.
  • mixednuts said on Sep 22, 2009....
    This was a very sad post. As for myself ...... I don't want to think back in time , and maybe cry about what I remember. BIG BOYZ DON'T CRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;){
  • Hegemone said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Mixed - You might be doing yourself more harm by not facing it as opposed to blocking it all out.
  • Clark_Leigh said on Sep 22, 2009....
    I had something like that happen. But i didnt even remeber it still i was 17. I went to a therapy camp and we were put on our own for 4 days without contact. I was just sitting there looking at a lake when it hit me. I'v always remebered the first nightmare i'v ever had. It was when I was younge, I woke up in my room and there was fog on the ground and skulls everywhere. Now that I think back to it not scary. I would open the door and it was just white. This time I thought about it and I opened the door and my uncle was sitting in the chair and im assuming he had been drinking, and he got angry that I was awake and said that I better do as he said or he would tell my parents that i had been acting bad. i cant go into the rest. the point is that what I think is that when things calm down in your life, your mind brings up things that it couldnt deal with before I think its a sign of healing
  • simplyconfused said on Sep 22, 2009....
    I haven't had many, but I've had a few.  One recently flooded back.  Long story short, my dad cheated on my mom, left us on fathers day (so he doesn't look like THAT big of an asshole he forgot), then we decided to move back to where we previously lived, and he called one day and I answered and he was all "I love you don't be silly.. " blah blah, and he just got to walk right back in on our lives.

    I dealt with it, but it just came back and bothered me?

    You have gone through quite a bit m ore than me though, and that is both good and bad.  I think it's normal for traumatic experiences to just pop by and say hello again.

    The toad thing is really cool btw.
  • Lucytorial said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Hege ~ These experiences indelibly mark themselves on ourlives, whether we are okay with them or not.  When my husband died on me three times I was calm to the point of comatosed LOL
     
    When I remember them now I feel them far stronger, its very strange but they are a part of my alarm or alert system now.  When they happen I begin to question whats going on in my lfie and sure enough there is something to look at.
     
    Trauma in all of its colours (not bad or good) remains the fabric of who we are, it is not negative, nor sometimes a positive but its there and always will be.
  • the.food.critic said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Very powerful post, and equally powerful comments above me. I don't have any traumatic experiences to compare with yours, but I can feel all of your trauma all the same.
  • chicken said on Sep 22, 2009....

    I'm guessing that certain traumatic experiences resurface at a time when we are better able to cope with them. I only have my own experience to base this on.

          In my mid 20's, I met, and moved in with "Mr. Wrong." When my head cleared, and I begged my parents to let me move back home, I went to the OBGYN to make sure he hadn't given me an STD. He hadn't, I was 6 weeks pregnant, instead. My first thought was to have an abortion, and my parents agreed. As the appointment date neared, I had second thoughts, and decided I would rather put the baby up for adoption, instead. My parents hounded me saying the baby would be no good, just like the father, and that I had to get rid of the child. They wouldn't listen to me and eventually, since I only had a week to decide, my resistance was worn down and I gave in. I drank heavily every night until one day before the procedure (which I paid for out of my own pocket, of course).  At the clinic, there were 2 other couples. I was there, alone and when it was all over, I went home, alone. I thought I had no other choice, because I felt I had nowhere else to go and no one else to talk to (I was too ashamed). For a long time, I blamed my parents for forcing me to abort the baby, but in reality, I was the one who moved in with the wrong man, I didn't take better precautions, and my drinking probably hurt the unborn fetus even more. In other words, I've been coping with the fact that my stupid mistake caused me the loss of my child.

  • petitepapillon said on Sep 22, 2009....
    I've been through a few traumatic events and I still deal with them almost every single day. I think I always will because they've left a mark on me. Some days are good days, some days are bad, and others still are pure hell. Hence the reason why I still see a therapist.

    In my experience, memories of my traumatic events surface more now than before because somehow our body and mind realizes that we are now strong enough to handle them. I know for me, I went into full blown survival mode after my last traumatic event. I wasn't going to let that monster take anything else away from me and so I pushed everything aside and embarked on my two years of classes at my university of choice.

    Now, starting once I had graduated from college, I'm dealing with everything. And I mean, EVERYTHING. I even had a mental breakdown because of it. But I think that's just how the body and mind works. When it's time to deal with things, it'll happen, even if it's years later.

    I try to deal with as best as I can, but sometimes, I deal with it all in stupid ways. But I learn from it all and somehow, even though I tend not to believe, grow from it all.

    It's hard and confusing and sometimes you start to wonder why you're still dealing with all these emotions from the past that you thought you were over; however, you then realize that you're still healing. Because if I learned anything from my therapist, it's that healing is a never-ending process.
  • Mr.Strange said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Heres my take...

    WE ALL GO THROUGH THINGS.

    all of us.

    do we need to compare who got the bigger dick shoved in there ass?

    lol
    lol
    lmao

    like come on...

    LIFE IS ABOUT LIVING.

    lol

    have fun.

    You are too concerned with what was and will be.

    yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift.

    That is why they call it the present. - Kung Fu Panda 30:40 in.
  • FinnStrange said on Sep 22, 2009....
    The experience is what you make it, traumatic or otherwise.  People are going to pass on, its a fact of life, we all know this. 

    The two people (Grandmother and husbands uncle) in your stories seem to have either been sick and or were aging.

    Likely the outcome was not a surprise, so maybe you should look at the positive parts of being involved in the last breaths of these special people in your life, and not focus on the sad part of them no longer being with you in the physical sense. 

    You have amazing memories that cannot be taken away from you and you are responsible for cherishing them to ensure that these marvelous beings live on within your heart.

    I myself was abused as a young child and forgot about the incident until I turned 11.  I was unsure how to deal with such a "wrong" doing on myself that I became depressed, this carried through high school and into my young adult life.  Within the past few years I have gradually realized who I am and I am working on myself (with the help of Mr. Strange) and focusing on happiness and nothing else.
    Everyone has a story, its your decision how its written.  And yes Mr. Strange you can quote me on that :)
  • starchini said on Sep 22, 2009....
    I dont have any advice to give you on your traumatic experiences...I myself have had but only one, and itll be my secret till I die...So im no authority on coping, im all about supression.  All I can say is that im very sorry about yours, its just too bad that things like this happen, especially to good animal loving people like you
  • dyingman said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Not much in trauma....
    Terribly blessed, I suppose.

    Maybe my worst experiences would cause flashbacks for others.  It may depend on the personality of the subject.
  • Lioness said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Hi Hege, I can't imagine how it felt like going through your experiences and then remembering it and sharing it. For me, I can't say I have any traumatic experience (thank God), very sad perhaps, but not traumatic. I often have reminiscing conversations with my sister, and so the pain becomes bearable and less as years pass by. I find solace in the thought that each experience teaches me a valuable lesson.
  • mixednuts said on Sep 22, 2009....
    The memories live on forever don't they?!
  • Hegemone said on Sep 22, 2009....
    Clark - I can see your point there, perhaps it's a time when your brain says 'OK, she's good for now, let's go ahead and give her another project.' almost.

    Simply - Yeah, I could see how that could come back in many ways at odd times to bother you even when you feel you've put it behind you.  Seems to be one of those situations that just doesn't go away, does it?

    Lucy - You know, that is something maybe I should take the time to think about.  When those things pop up, is it a signal for something else going on of equal potential trauma.  Alternately, I also need to take time to think of what might be spurring the sudden snaps of memory if it's not due to something else traumatic.

    Food.Critic - Thank you for stopping in.

    Chicken - Wow, that is a powerful and tough experience to have.  I'm sorry you're battling with that, but I can see that it definitely would make sense that you deal with something, even if it's years after the fact, as your brain/body sees that you're fit to do so.  Also, if I were placed in your situation I could maybe see some of the logic in you feeling that it's your fault, I hope you also see that you could not have known what would have happened, that he was Mr. Wrong, that you would get pregnant, etc.  Obviously there were some other extenuating circumstances, so I would have a hard time laying 100% of the blame on myself, were I in your shoes.  On that note though, I am not in your shoes, I do not know how this experience would feel, so I'm not going to pretend to.

    Petite - That is so true.  Healing is a never ending process.  I like that.  One other thought popped into my head as I was reading your comment, at which point you also referenced that our bodies release these memories or feelings when it feels we can handle them.  I wonder what it is that 'clicks' (for lack of better term) that tells our brain we can handle it, and how that click can be so faulty sometimes, for the people who have a mental break and who can't be helped.  It's sad when that happens and I just wonder what the trigger is or if we'll ever know.  I'm sure it's based on an individual, specific basis ... but at the same time, in general is it a feeling, a memory, a current event, etc. that sets things in motion.

    Mr.Strange - Laughing about any of this is inappropriate I feel.  Who says I'm living in the past?  I'm trying to learn from this, and to grow from it.  Why would I want to learn and grow if I wanted to stay in the past?  Therefore, obviously, I am living and appreciating my potential for the future because I want to grow, learn and continue to live my life.

    Finn - Oh, I wasn't dwelling on the fact that those two people are gone, just how unusual I think it is that I'm suddenly having memories pop in my head about the two incidents years after it's happened, and years after I've allowed myself time to grieve and to move on.  I celebrate both of their lives and am happy I got to know them/love them for what time I did, and yes, also that I was present in those last moments.  Doesn't stop me from wondering just what triggers the memories though, and why they feel so 'fresh', for lack of a better term.

    Star - Ah, well, for any of these events I've come to terms with them and I'm OK with it all now.  Granted at the time, each was traumatic, but now it's not.  I think more than anything the sudden memory that wasn't there before is the shock.  Also, to each their own.  We all do what we must to move on, to get along, and to live, no matter what the mechanism.

    Dying- Good point that some of your worst experiences have the potential to spark a reaction to another person ... depending on the individual.  It can be so different, yet so precise, but there's no way to tell any sort of pattern or anything.

    Lioness - I think that is a good part of why the new memories seem to come as such a shock, because I've dealt with the others, come to terms with them, come to appreciate them, learned from them, etc.  Then something new pops up and it's just confusing and I wonder why it even came about.  I think the initial shock of it is what's worst, and then I start really thinking about it, processing it almost, and move along as usual.

    Mixed - True enough, but where do they live?  You know?
  • Mr.Strange said on Sep 24, 2009....
    Hegemone

    May I offer you some assistance?

    I find if anything bothers me and gives me some form of physical pain I must face it head one and move forward.

    Finn was making some crashing noise well I was taking a nap.

    I asked her to make more.

    then I laughed at it till there was no pain.

    To play in the playground with pain as your friend, pain will bring his friends as well.

    Laughter heals all my wounds,
    I can show you how it can heal yours.

    Are you brave enough to know what I know?

  • Hegemone said on Sep 24, 2009....
    Mr.Strange - No, I'm not interested in your assistance, but thank you.
  • Mr.Strange said on Sep 24, 2009....
    When you are,

    and excited about it,

    come to me.

    I can help.

    In the way this works, I offered and you declined.

    I will still help you.

    Though you must offer me something of value to you first.

    I will match your offer.
  • Hegemone said on Sep 24, 2009....
    Mr.Strange - Thanks, I'll keep you in mind, but just not really ready to partake in anything at the moment.

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