• iamdreamed said on Sep 17, 2009....

  Speakng from an Australian point of view... I don't think that it's really fair of you to assume that the American way is the best way, after all good intent is not the same as good result. I'm not too sure what you mean by "Old Glory" either... I don't see how pledging makes things better, people should only act in this way if they want to and not because someone said it was the best way... just my opinion though :)

• MoonLiteRide said on Sep 17, 2009....

  I take it you're playing devil's advocate?

• iamdreamed said on Sep 17, 2009....

  I think it is more that I have been lurking abit on this and other blog sites and perhaps I was venting a bit on hearing more of the same "America is great!" sort of things... but everyone is entitled to their opinion... maybe I should try some "Australia is great" blogging :p

• MoonLiteRide said on Sep 17, 2009....

  iamdreamed .. to be clear, I was referring to the initial blog, not your comments.  Sorry for the confusion (if there was any!).  I agree with your points.

• porcelain said on Sep 17, 2009....

  I don't understand why so many people are bothered by an American thinking his country is great. Why shouldn't he? I know political leaders sometimes make decisions on America's behalf and that the rest of the world (as well as many Americans) don't agree with them, but it is safe to say that things are far worse in other corners of the globe. We, as Americans, have a lot to be grateful for and that some would like to share that with people who are less fortunate should be looked on as compassionate rather than pretentious. That is how I feel about it.

• secretlife said on Sep 17, 2009....

  here here porcelain!
  we have every right to think our country is great.
  it is after all, our opinion. 
  if you live in Australia, you can go right ahead and think your country is great and it won't bother me a bit.

• UnicornForm said on Sep 17, 2009....

  AMERICA IS AWSOME!

• bluegum said on Sep 17, 2009....

  AUSTRALIA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY in the world .and i know caps is shouting.Blue ,

• Cussane said on Sep 17, 2009....

  wow, ok, lets see
   
  1. bill of rights hmm, patriot act anyone,
  2. embrace free trade- buy america clause
  3. practice religion freely and not surpress others, have you read some of the so called christian posts on soulcast lately that is nothing but hate mongering clap trap,
  4. private enterprise- hmm how many banks does the government own and how much of gm and chrysler
   
  i could go on but inviting other people to become american you might want to clean up your own house first, kudo's for your love of your country but at least be honest and list the good with the bad
   
  Cussane

• D6fer said on Sep 17, 2009....

  hey....at least it's not Canada! ;p

• UnicornForm said on Sep 17, 2009....

  You see others as you see yourself Ya'll!

• phoeby said on Sep 17, 2009....

  see this is why people get the shits with americans! sometimes (not always, but sometimes) the 'my way is best' mantra is literally shoved down the world's throat like there is no other country, no other culture, no other group of people with any other thing to offer the world.
  
  
  america is fabulous, but i can assure you it's got a lot of limitations as well! like any place on the globe. I'm a firm believer in patriotism creating separatism and reinforcing an us vs them stance. 
  
  
  blar...

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  porcelain: "and that some would like to share"
  
  Lol. The only thing Americans like to share with people who are less fortunate are body bags.
  
  If everyone became an American we could share our poverty of thought with them. Its the one thing we have a great surplus of. Ouch.
  

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  phoeby: America is Número Uno at helping kill people at least. Evidence?
  
  US leads world in weapons sales 07 Sep 2009 The United States snatched the lion share of the global arms sales in 2008 which amounted to more than two-thirds of all foreign armaments deals, a government report says. According to the report, Washington inked arms deals valued at $37.8 billion in 2008, or 68.4 percent of all business in the global weapons market, up significantly from American sales of $25.4 billion last year, New York Times reported.
  
  Resistance is futile.
  
  
  

• TheThinker said on Sep 18, 2009....

  This is joke right ?
  ''everyone should be American''.. I don't wanna offend anyone but
  wow, talk about being arrogant.
   
  

• M4lic3 said on Sep 18, 2009....

  I love this "America is the best goddamn country in the world" mentality. I suppose it is when you live in a country full of people just as stupid as you are with no concept of a world outside the states and the philosophy of if it moves shoot it, if it doesn't chop it down and build on it and if anyone else has the same or less nuclear warheads than us blow them to hell for shits and giggles. Its the kind of mentality that makes me proud not to be an american.

• ALIENated said on Sep 18, 2009....

  I totally agree with all the negative comments. America sucks. All you foreigners and illegal immigrants should go home immediately. Especially all you Canadians who have come here for better healthcare, or a better job. This place sucks. Anyone thinking of coming here, please stay home. The oppression here is actually horrible. America is crap. Go back where you came from. It is much better there. Your kings and dictators and parliments, your socialism and communism is much better than our freedom and liberty. The patriot act has enslaved us all, but we are pretending to go on somehow. So please stay away. Do not come here, it is all a sham. (Read my lips. I cannot speak freely. I am being held here against my will or I would leave, too. Do not come here. You Muslims. Please stay away. Christians are killing Muslims here every day. They are the worst of all. They do not tollerate any other religion. Mosques are being burned to the ground and our Christian controlled media fail to cover it. Oh my God, I mean Allah, it is horrible. You atheists. Go elsewhere. You are tollerated least of all. Go to Australia where you can live in peace and not be constantly persecuted.)

• phoeby said on Sep 18, 2009....

  "Its the kind of mentality that makes me proud not to be an american"
  
  
  
  Yeah, me too. And it also makes me cringe in embarrassment for people who actually believe that trollop! I sort of knew there were some out there, but now i've seen it with my own eyes. it's hilarious!
  
  
  
  

• secretlife said on Sep 18, 2009....

  i'm not trying to shove anything down anyone's throat.
  but i still love my country and think it's the best place in this world to live.
   
  i'm proud to be an american.
   
  now if you don't have pride for the country you live in, i think that says something about either you or your country. 
  or maybe you're just sooooooooooo above it all. 
   
  please don't "cringe in embarrassment" for me.
  oh, and i resent you finding my patriotism "hilarious".
   
  i hope you aren't an american.  it's hard to tell phoeby, given both your comments-
  in one you say "america is fabulous" and in this last, you are cringing for all us fools......
  i live in a counrty where freedom allows people to say they hate the country they live in.  but you know what?  it angers me that those people don't go somewhere else if it's so bad here.
  it must be hell living in a place that you think sucks, while taking all the benefits that go along with being a citizen of that country.....
  that's.just a tad hypocritical.
   
   
   
   

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  ALIENated: You really need to take your medicine. I can almost picture the white foam spittle at the corners of you mouth. You keep acting like that a rookie with a tasor will come calling.
  
  secretlife: '...that those people don't go somewhere else if it's so bad here?'
  
  Maybe it would be better if all those people saying things like "those people should go somewhere else if it's so bad here" went somewhere else. What do you think? Wouldn't you feel better somewhere else? Like your home planet?
  
  
  

• Mr.Strange said on Sep 18, 2009....

  I agree.
  
  Great quote curmudgeon
  
  "The world would be so much better if" -curmudgeon amazing my friend...
  
  "If you cannot be in America physically, be American in spirit, in thought and in action." True to me, as it is true to you.
  
  Wow.
  
  Very inspirational.
  
  Have An Amazing Day
  

• ALIENated said on Sep 18, 2009....

  Thanks, skittlecork, your comments are always enlightening (if they can be found amongst all your cut and pasted crap). Glad at least one blogger has not blocked you so you can still pass on your pearls of wisdom. You should try some honey. You are not attracting many flies with all your BS. Not everyone takes medicine as you surely must. Maybe if you took yours it might straighten out your thinking and bring you back to reality. "Did you hear ... we have a new president. Bush is gone. Now take this purple one ... "

• Me-Myself&I said on Sep 18, 2009....

  i Love my counrty, America. to me.... being an American means to be free, i am too! sure our goverment has no idea about how the common folks live now a days. there are things that do suck in this country, i'll take the bad with the good.

  It's true Americans have an attitude. we are young, full of the "world", so many different ....everything!!!! people from all parts of the world come here, even risk their lives to cross the line into the USA. that says something in its self! doesn't it!?

  our land here is perfect.. we have spirit that most countries do not. women here are not shamed, covered up, cut so we won't enjoy sex, its against the law to beat women, we lead and manage..... sure their is austrialia and other counrty that treat all in a right manner. now and now.....

  so what is so special about America, Americans! we the people. and quess what.... we ARE the melting pot, we arARE mixed with every counrty on this earth.

   

• secretlife said on Sep 18, 2009....

  shelter:  if i love my country and my home, why would i ever leave?
  it's people like you that need to find a place to belong.
  have a nice day.

• Me-Myself&I said on Sep 18, 2009....

  well you can tell that i got excited at the end of my opinion.... i am proud to be an American.

  Secret, Hi neighbor. *smile*

• porcelain said on Sep 18, 2009....

  You're quite the cynic, sheltercrow. I think you're overgeneralizing. I'm an American and my ambition is to join the Peace Corps when I graduate next spring. There are bad and good people in every part of the world. I have no ill will toward those less fortunate than myself, in fact, I get great pleasure from helping them. Many other Americans feel this way too.

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  ALIENated: I find it less than savory to engage in your sometimes obvious 'blow-back' damage control posting to save your fan base. I say what I think come what may. Even your whinny excuses for your excesses, meant to place 'poor you' in a better light, are getting long in the tooth. Name calling again? Cry Havoc, and let loose the dogs of war! You know, mom never liked you.
  
  secretlife: I guess this means your staying here on earth for the time being? Good for you.
  
  I belong where I am and know my mind. You merely 'love your country and your home.' How quaint. You and the resident bigot are simpatico? How quaint too.
  
  porcelain: The cynicism comes with age. I once was an idealist. But alas there are too many craven souls like alienated in the world. And more spawn all the time. Get bullied one too many times about your common sense principles and you too may join the cynics. Words of advice. There is a sucker born every minute. Try not to be one of them.
  
  Me-Myself&I: The reason they come here is that, amongst the least useful things Uncle Sam spreads in the world, is poverty. We may have our jurisprudence but we have little humanity. It is a sure indication that if you are too full of your Americanism you are less full of your tolerance for things not American. And that is a problem.
  

• secretlife said on Sep 18, 2009....

  ahhhhhh, now i get it. 
   
  you're the judge and jury and you get to decide who we are and what we stand for.  that's just perfect.  i already knew you were a know-it-all.  it must be hard to be so superior to all of the rest of humanity.
   
  sheltercrow you're just a sad empty little man. 
   
  i'm sorry for you.
   

• porcelain said on Sep 18, 2009....

  I suppose it is too late to try not to be born a sucker at this point, sheltercrow.

• Mr.Strange said on Sep 18, 2009....

  I thought I had posted something,
  
  perhaps I just thought it
  
  Have An Amazing Day
  

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  secretlife: It is a burden. Thanks for the caring words. You could have
  been a little more creative though. When you 'get it' I'll stop
  writing. Till then.
  
  
  
  porcelain: Everyone is born, but not everyone has to be a sucker.
  
  
  
  
  
  

• kevinunknown said on Sep 18, 2009....

  Sometimes word’s fail me when it comes to how arrogant an American can be. I would sooner rip up the declaration of independence than swear an oath to America. Nothing you’ve mentioned hear is uniquely American.

  “Embraced Free Trade
  freely practiced their religion, and sought not to suppress others
  expressed themselves freely and sought not to silence anyone or stifle dissent
  developed an abiding respect for private property
  and pursued their happiness while encouraging others to do the same”

  I can find these in any developed country it’s not even like these are American concepts they are liberal human rights and economic capitalism, both European innovations.

  You’re pathetic. Millions of people have fought and died in the name of “pitiful, meaningless nationalism” and you have just rubbished it because you think that as an American you are somehow above these people. Just because socialism and communism don’t suit America doesn’t mean there is something wrong with them as a system political governance in another country. “The concept of individual freedom, instilled in themselves the entrepreneurial spirit of private enterprise” that’s also not uniquely American. “to care for themselves and their loved ones” that’s called human nature and “imposing on others for their own benefit” now that is something you Americans really enjoy isn’t it?

  One last thing how does one “be American in spirit, in thought and in action.”?

   

• ALIENated said on Sep 18, 2009....

  Sorry Curm, gotta go. Let me know when you lock the gate on you know who. He / she is no longer allowed to crap all over my blog so it always happens on the few blogs still open to him / her.

• phoeby said on Sep 18, 2009....

  Secret life, 
  
  
  :)
  
  
  It's quite easy and very necessary to comment on the positive and negative when you're more or less critiquing something!!  
  
  
  To say america is a fabulous country but at the same time  cringe at the sickening one-eyed myopic obsessive patriotism at the same time is not hypoccrital... it's called moving towards a balanced view.
  
  
  America has the grand canyon, it has wide open spaces, it has obama (LOVINNNGGGGGG how much that's going to niggle the very people i'm aiming this towards roflmao). Yet it also has a very ingrained us vs them mentality, it has quite a vocal herd of white supremists (still!!!!l... can you actually BELIEVE that in this day and age???? and with how much most every other country has evolved not only it's legislation uniformally but the core beliefs and attitudes of the people). America rates appallingly in social welfare with people stuck with no money and no health care with very limited resources. On another note, Americans always go on about free speech free speech, we have free speech, ....hate to say this, dear... but most every highly developed country has flippin free speech but we just don't go around blowing our trumpet about it. It's assumed and acted upon anyway.  I live in Australia and can at any time be vocal about whatever I want and that's never a big deal. Yet, despite all this, America still leads the way in many other areas. 
  
  
  So i'm not getting your point secret life? why can't someone simultaneously critically analyse a subject by commenting on the limitations and strengths?

  
  

  That's what i do every mid-semester and end of semester with every assignment. 

  
  

  LOL! You're an absolute bunch of drongo's, if you think that any country (or anything for that matter) is all good!  There are always pro's and cons. There are always strengths and limitations. But a lot of pro-american sentiment only focusses on how much you people think you are better than the rest of the human race. And THIS is what gets up other people's noses. It reaks of separatism when really, more and more the world is moving towards being more united, people are becoming more linked and separatism is devolving as it should.

  
  

  blar

• secretlife said on Sep 18, 2009....

  lol...nobody said all good.  what we said is the best there is.

  and i think you're just a girl who is mimicing her college professors' thoughts because you don't have enough life experience to form your own.

  one day you will.

  enjoy australia.  i'm sure it's a lovely country.  but it's not my home.  i'm a proud american in case you forgot.

• phoeby said on Sep 18, 2009....

  but why sprout off about being the best? Why so competitive? Aren't we all one? 
  
  
  oh what am i saying!!!! this is about ME!!!! me me me me me......
  

  
  

  which reminds me, i like america because it gave me will and grace. I'll be forever thankful to your great and best and wondrous country filled with better and more superior beings for that!!!!!! 

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  America: Named after Amerigo Vespucci or Richard Amerike. Not after the original inhabitants who were systematically destroyed after the Europeans 'discovered' this continent. Even the Pope got in on the act dividing the world between the Spanish and the Portuguese. Where are the great Aztec and Inca cultures? Laid to waste by the greedy church in collusion with the greedy Monarchies of Europe.
  
  You see this country has lived the big lie since it's inception. We see here expressed the creation myth of America. Myth because it's all quite made up. A pablum to hide the real blood soaked truth behind the facade of a child's fairy tale.
  
  Free? Ask the remnants of the Native Americans, aptly named Indians or En Dio, a Spanish expression meaning "in God," about freedom. Ask the African masses transported for slave labor after the En Dio were distroyed. Ask the native Hawaiians about freedom, if you can find one.
  

• phoeby said on Sep 18, 2009....

  good point. 
  
  
  It's the same in Australia. This land was 'settled' or 'invaded' depending on who is describing the history lesson.

  
  

  The settlement/invasion then caused a systematic culling and raping of god know's how many aboriginal people so that white British 'civilised' people could secure the place to dump their prisoners here. That's how Australia was started. 

  
  

  The remnants of that sick, inhumane and oppressive behaviour of the British and then generations after them, is still seen today in the Aboriginal people who imbibed all that horrid treatment. But then we have the audacity to point the finger and say 'oh you bad drunken foul mouthed so and so's....pick up your act etc etc' Their culture was squished and denegrated by the dominant white people and they're only now finding some sure footing here bec of a slow change in attitudes probably brought about by more fairer legislation etc, on the land that they have always lived in/on!!!! 

  
  

  now that's hypocrisy.   And it's not only the historical backdrop in Australia, by the sounds of it, it happened in the precious US as well. 

  
  

  So yeah, free for who.... exactly? i'll tell you. Places like the US and Australia are still predominantly free for the dominant culture and the minority cultures are still feeling the repercussion of hundreds of years of horrid treatment, suppression and extreme racist vilification. 

  
  

  
  

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  phoeby: What an irony that the wonderful Louis Armstrong sings this song.
  
  

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  And Sam Cooke for good measure.
  
  

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  Here is a little song celebrating our position at #37 in the world in health care.
  
  

• phoeby said on Sep 18, 2009....

  says it all really.  
  
  
  some social commentators say that the way the underprivileged are treated and cared for in a society, is a barometer or an indication for that nation's 'health' for want of a better word.
  
  
  phoeby. 

• Cussane said on Sep 18, 2009....

  i was ignoring this post just because well frankly it is crap, the one thing i appauld the usa for is thier patriotism, the one thing i find disgusting about the usa is there idea that everything in the usa is better than everywhere else, which quite frankly is a load of crap. they have some really good things (new orleans is my fav and some really bad things, work in an er in south central LA and you see the worst of humanity) however this post is starting to turn into the liberal lets says sorry for everything the whiteman did since the roman empire crap. yes mistakes were made when people colonized the new world, suck it up and move on, stop this everyone is a victim crap and let people take responsibility for thier own actions, and by the way all of you spouting off about the errors of the past, howcome none of you are complaining about the anc in south africa in the present what is gouing on thier today, where your protests may actually have some effect is worse than anything than happened in the last 200 years, over 4500 police officers killed alone in the last decade, oohhhh the silence is deafening and btw d6fer, yes we are glad it is not canada, we like canada just the way it is, and alien quit repeating the old right wing crap about HC i thought we resolved that many posts ago Cussane

• UnicornForm said on Sep 18, 2009....

  America  is fabulous.
   
  Im sure other countries think they are fabulous.
   
  Just in a different way then we.
   
  So what.

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  phoeby: A nations moral and ethical compass is determined on how it treats it's neediest citizens. Here we simply throw them to the curb. You see there is no profit to be made by it. Greed as religion is another of the unspoken secrets hidden by the fairy tale facade of the creation myth of America. When most people here say 'god is good' what they actually mean is 'greed is good.' The ten commandments are for the kids you know. The adults, grownups engrossed in the bathos of greed, know better.

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  Cussane: Your lame hackneyed assertion has been posted by others on numerous occasions. It is of course useless considering we are speaking of the USA today and it's enforced amnesia concerning it's history. It has even less validity when you bring politics into the story. The concept of liberals and conservatives are, after all, mere abstractions created to define, or justify, whatever prejudices one may hold.
  
  So save the mumble hype for the kiddies. Lets move on.

• D6fer said on Sep 18, 2009....

  veni vedi veci eh sheltercrow?......I am grateful for the efforts that built this nation....too bad Obama and the pot smoking hippies from the 60's are trying to dismantle it.....they better hurry....the tide is coming in 2010.

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  
  D6fer: Ah... but it's veni vidi vici.
  
  And why is it the spokespeople for the right always refer to their ideological enemies as if they were foreigners? Trying to paste the un-American stamp on other citizens again?
  
  I would suppose that by now the right, a fringe group itself, only consider themselves as proper citizens.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

• D6fer said on Sep 18, 2009....

  now we are getting somewhere......realizing you are a douche bag is the first step.......and it is you that is pasting the un-american stamp on yourself....or anti-american.....same thing in my book......funny how you could think that 50% of an entire country is "fringe"....thanks for correcting me btw.....I could have gone on forever embarrassing myself with my poor latin skills.

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  ALIENated: Concerning Canadians flooding into the good old USA for health care coverage. I'm glad you brought up the subject. There is so much confusion. Veni, Vidi, Vici.
  
  Canadian Health Care, Even With Queues, Bests U.S.
  
  Sept. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Opponents of overhauling U.S. health care argue that Canada shows what happens when government gets involved in medicine, saying the country is plagued by inferior treatment, rationing and months-long queues.
  
  The allegations are wrong by almost every measure, according to research by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development and other independent studies published during the past five years. While delays do occur for non-emergency procedures, data indicate that Canada’s system of universal health coverage provides care as good as in the U.S., at a cost 47 percent less for each person.
  
  “There is an image of Canadians flooding across the border to get care,” said Donald Berwick, a Harvard University health-policy specialist and pediatrician who heads the Boston-based nonprofit Institute for Healthcare Improvement. “That’s just not the case. The public in Canada is far more satisfied with the system than they are in the U.S. and health care is at least
  as good, with much more contained costs.”
  
  Canadians live two to three years longer than Americans and are as likely to survive heart attacks, childhood leukemia, and breast and cervical cancer, according to the OECD, the Paris-based coalition of 30 industrialized nations.
  
  Read the rest.
  
  Source: Bloomberg

• sheltercrow said on Sep 18, 2009....

  D6fer: Even the democrats didn't get a majority of all eligible voters in the last election. The winners of elections almost never constitute a majority of all eligible voters. The losers never. You, my friend, are clearly blinded by your politics. That 50 percent you refer to is a fiction.

• D6fer said on Sep 18, 2009....

  so let me get this straight.....you think the U.S. is mostly liberal? Don't make me laugh.

• sheltercrow said on Sep 19, 2009....

  D6fer: One of the odd thing about our elections is that the winner never gets a majority of eligible voters.
  
  The following concerns registered and likely voters only. It's from pollster.com.
  
  National Party Identification: democrats 37.9%, republicans 31.5%, independents 28.8%.
  
  The following concerns all adults only. It's also from pollster.com.
  
  National Party Identification: democrats 33.3%, republicans 24.5%, independents 35.1%.
  
  In neither poll does either party represent a majority of voters. And certainly not the republicans. You see, that the 50% you refer to is a fiction.
  

• sheltercrow said on Sep 19, 2009....

  D6fer: Just for fun. The 2008 presidential election results.
  
  Eligible voters was around 208,323,000
  Actual votes cast was 131,257,328 or 63% of eligible
  Obama got 69,456,897 or 33% eligible, 53% actual
  McCain got 59,934,814 or 29% eligible, 46% actual
  
  Again, the 50% you refer to is a fiction.
  

• kevinunknown said on Sep 19, 2009....

  Crow—sometimes you can be really annoying with your copying and pasting and I think we have had conflicting views in the past, but I really have to say I admire you intellect you are clearly well educated I don’t understand why they even bother trying to argue with you.

• porcelain said on Sep 19, 2009....

  Mark Twain once said there are three kinds of lies...white lies, damned lies and statistics.

• porcelain said on Sep 19, 2009....

  To kevinunkown and sheltercrow:

  If you guys are really so intelligent, then why foster so much resentment when explaining your views? I think some of the things you say are very plausible, but the way you say them makes them poorly received.

  As far as your opposition goes, I can see humor in some of their posts and equally credible arguments. You can put a spin on anything.That you have one another to encourage your feelings of self-righteousness is wonderful; but if the other people who disagree with you are anything like me, then you haven't had an impact on their opinion. In fact, you've made yourselves look so douchey (for lack of a better word) that it's nearly impossible to take you seriously. You're damaging your own cause.

  And yes, the copying and pasting is really putting me off. I don't even read it. I wanna know what YOU GUYS think, not what some professor at Harvard says. He may have a fancy degree, but he's still just a person with an opinion. Like you and me.

• curmudgeon said on Sep 19, 2009....

  Wow - What a massive response! Thanks for all your comments.
  
  Funny how Australians and Canadians have such big bugs up their asses when Americans simply extol the things they love about their nation. Rather than write something they love about their countries (I am sure there is something to love about these countries, but given that Canadians make practically all their money off of Americans and still find reason to complain about us, and the white Australian skinhead sport of choice these days is beating up folks from South Asia, I really have no idea what there is to like about either place), they knock America.
  
  What is it about you erstwhile members of the British Commonwealth and you other dirtbag Euro-trash? Are you pissed off now that the sun has set on your fucking lily-white empires? Do you feel you have to crack on other people because you know you are the ones who fucked up the world so badly for hundreds of years? You act like you have no responsibility whatsoever for slavery, poverty, arbitrarily drawn borders, dividing, conquering and dominating so many parts of the world from 1400 onward. Shelter - do you forget that the French also had a hand in decimating the Native Americans? Why would you use the Spanish term for the Indians when they have perfectly decent tribal names of their own?
  
  I also love how some respondents have said they are ignoring this post yet still take the time to comment. I appreciate that kind of hypocrisy.
  
  As for the American dissenters here, hey, you are free to believe and say what you want - even on this very blog. That is what being an American is all about. Even Americans who dislike America are welcome, unlike the South Asians and Aborigines in Australia, and the South Asians and Africans in Great Britain, and the Africans in France.
  
  All of you small-minded, racist Euro-hypocrites can kiss my big fat American ass. Your countries do not favorably compare in any way to the good old US of A. That is why I live here and not among you rot.
  
  

• sheltercrow said on Sep 19, 2009....

  porcelain: I take it you want a response and your ass kissed at the same time. Never happen. For passing off an opinion that is an intentional misstatement. No. And it's:
  
  
  There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
  
  
  Where you got the 'white' part I can only conjecture.
  
  Hum. You can't support your assertions so you use a female cleansing product to try an insult instead? No. I'm still not convinced.
  
  Fact always have a way of putting people off. Specially when they show they are wrong. Should I resort to say pablum and conjecture? FOX news 'fair and balanced' racism and red baiting? No. I'm still able to think for myself.
  
  curmudgeon: I assume you live here because you were born here. You don't understand why I used the Spanish En Dio for Indians? Fascinating.

• curmudgeon said on Sep 19, 2009....

  Shelter - yes I do not understand why you would use the Spanish term when the Spaniards were among the earliest Europeans to mistreat the natives here - hundreds of years before the Puritans arrived, in fact.
  
  Religious condescension is unacceptable in light of the havoc the Spanish perpetrated on the Natives throughout this land. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
  

• sheltercrow said on Sep 19, 2009....

  Clarification: Actually the word 'genocide' is more appropriate than 'mistreat' when you consider that some 25 million native Americans went missing within the next hundred years.
  
  Whatever the chronology involved, I point out the obvious. Indian is derived from En Dio or 'in God.' The 'people in god.'
  
  Those that claimed to have discovered this land, discovered coincidently because it contained no white people, instigated a genocide on the unfortunate and contemporaneously irrelevant 'people in god' that they discovered actually lived here.
  
  In the delusional thinking at that time, these 'people in god' were not actual people, in the sense that they were not white - the only human beings that could then be termed people - and therefor could be remove back 'to god.'

• Mr.Strange said on Sep 20, 2009....

  My Life's a joke, and the joke is on me.
  
  lol
  
  

• superbozo said on Sep 20, 2009....

  LMAO....isn't funny how nationalism can get peoples who stand for the same thing against one another. I mean we have Canadians, Australians, Brits and Americans all arguing over which is best.
   
  My opinion.....at least they ain't French :P

• bluegum said on Sep 20, 2009....

  Its amazing what this post of Curmudgeon has done ,shown how with a little bit of disent it could be Soulcast's most replied too.blue

• curmudgeon said on Sep 20, 2009....

  Bluegum - and it was a post that just came to me. Guess I touched a nerve.

• D6fer said on Sep 20, 2009....

  sheltercrow.....I would be fascinated to know what you think we should do to right all of the wrongs committed in history.....go ahead and start with the USA and the indians....details....give me details.....how do we make up for everything?

• UnicornForm said on Sep 20, 2009....

  I change my stance.. americas just as good as the next place.

  Heavens better

• sheltercrow said on Sep 22, 2009....

  D6fer: Kamikaze trolls, like yourself, who write blustering loony shorts are, rightfully, tolerated but not taken seriously. Hows that for starters?

• porcelain said on Sep 22, 2009....

  Sheltercrow, I'm from Hannibal, Missouri and with all the Mark Twain stuff that's been crammed down my throat since birth...it's hard to keep it straight at times.

  And I don't need to support my assertions because you support them so well with every comment you make. :P I don't need my ass kissed, but like I said, your messages are poorly received. Keep up the good work. :D

• porcelain said on Sep 22, 2009....

  Oh, and since when is copying and pasting the thoughts of others considered thinking for yourself? Forming your own opinion based on the knowledge you are given is slightly more original.

  Furthermore, the most important part of the quote was the bit about statistics. Organizations employ sociological principles to manipulate studies to produce the results they want, and you post them on here as if they were law.

  I still don't feel wrong...you really are douchey. I don't even think all the things you are saying are wrong, I just don't agree with them. I'm not sure why you consider these issues so black and white. That's a little juvenile. And as far as conjecture goes, you were spouting off how Americans would like to see the less fortunate in bodybags (I'm not going to bother getting the exact quote because the idea is the same). That's not only conjecture, but ignorant AND douchey.

• sheltercrow said on Sep 22, 2009....

  porcelain: Understood and placed in the circular filing cabinet. [note to self: like I'd give my personal opinion to this rag]
  

• javadewd said on Sep 22, 2009....

  The link to end all links. And shelter can still go suck a dick...Obviously some ass bag left the monkey cage open again at the zoo. I knew I smelled something!
  

• porcelain said on Sep 22, 2009....

  I'm a little curious as to why your personal opinion is above this "rag", although your time is not. :P

   

• D6fer said on Sep 22, 2009....

  sheltercrow......once again you dodge the question and cement your status as a royal douche bag.....chickenshit. 

• sheltercrow said on Sep 22, 2009....

  Nothing left to this posting excepts insults, back and forth, so long.

• ALIENated said on Sep 23, 2009....

  Oh, and since when is copying and pasting the thoughts of others considered thinking for yourself?

  Way to go, Porcelain. I thought I was the only one that noticed that fact.

• javadewd said on Sep 23, 2009....

  Post-modernism tunes and bullet points. My God, and people accuse me of being a political hack!

• writergrrl said on Oct 21, 2009....

  I really hope this was a poor attempt at being sarcastic. I'm american and even I can see this is not the best place to live.

• curmudgeon said on Oct 24, 2009....

  It's not about this place being the best to live - no place is perfect - but being American in spirit: Loving liberty, free speech, freedom to practice whatever religion or no religion at all,  free trade, freedom from excessive government intrusion, freedom from dependency on government services, freedom to think and be who you are, freedom to associate with whomever you choose.
  
  If you can find a better place to do all those things, hey why not go? Don't you want the best for yourself? Or is living a second-class life and then complaining about it and blaming others your definition of happiness?
  

• writergrrl said on Oct 28, 2009....

  I hear where your coming from, and yes I love and value all of my freedoms but how much freedom do we as a people really possess? Not much if you think about how our gov. is taking advantage of the fact that half of America is asleep in their own little blissfully ignorant worlds.

• javadewd said on Oct 28, 2009....

  Hey, I'm starting to like this gal... Or is it grrl?

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