Hegemone's tags:
I'm getting ready to eat, but I'm not doing it because I want to, I just know better than not to.  I don't even know if I'm really going to taste it.  That's what kind of mood I'm in.

I don't think I want to go into the details, because apparently that's one of my problems, and also I don't feel it would do any good.  I'm just put out and upset and that's no reason to go on blabbing.  As it stands right now, my husband and I are leaving tonight in an uncomfortable silence with occasional snappiness.  He is fine with that, said it straight out.

Here are the high lights:

  • I basically opened up to him and told him I needed support, I needed to feel like he was there for me.
  • He felt the TV show he was watching was more important, and after 15 minutes I realized he really did feel that way.
  • He couldn't think of anything, throughout any of the conversation, so I was left with mostly silence.  It was just the same as talking to a brick wall, except then I would have maybe heard an echo or a sound difference.
  • He did not have any reaction when I told him I truly was beginning to feel there was no hope for our relationship and that we might both be better served by not dragging it out.
  • He thinks we need to work on our relationship, but he can not think of how, and the many opportunities I suggested were not good enough.
  • He wants me to write a list of the things that I don't like about our relationship, give it to him, and then he wants to work on it all on his own.  He doesn't want to discuss it at all, he just wants to work on it himself.
  • In return, I told him that if he didn't want to talk about it at all, then I wanted to see immediate results and if they were not acceptable I'm going to tell him so whether he likes it or not.
  • He wants me to completely stop worrying all together about anything involving the farm, and if he acts in a fowl mood to his family, I'm to tell them 'I don't know.' when they ask what his problem is.  Also, he wants there to be less contact in regards to the farm.

So here we are, everything with the farm is coming to a screeching halt.  He wants to go about his way of 'not worrying about it' as he put it.  Fine, I'll do that, but he better not get mad when it begins to seem like I don't care, because that's what I'm going to have to do, put it out of my mind completely.  Fine, I won't speak with his family, but it won't be my problem when they all start coming at him wondering why.  Fine, I'll stop having contact and I'll start telling my FIL 'NO' every time he asks for my help.

Fine, I'll write the damn list of everything I think is a problem and we won't talk about it.  When things get worse, and we don't talk about how we can truly resolve the issue, and he does something to make it worse, or simply does nothing, then it won't be for my lack of trying because I have been.  I've been trying damn hard.  I nearly feel like I can't keep trying anymore either.  I almost don't want to.  I just feel like giving up really.

Honestly, I'm nearly interested in the two of us just living together, paying off our bills, looking like we're together to everybody else, getting jobs and maintaining them, and then when we can more properly afford it, getting a divorce.  I can't rely on him emotionally at all.  I can't talk to him, it's too much for him and it's useless anyway because he never knows what to say. 

He never knows, despite the fact that I've told him things that I want to hear when I'm feeling a certain way, I've told him the things that he can do that will make me feel better, even as simple as a hug (used to be an issue because he claimed he couldn't hug me without it turning sexual, and now suddenly he says that he doesn't get those feelings anymore, but still does not hug me, definitely an underlying problem but that will be for another time).  I've written him letters, material items that he can keep and look back at if needed!  I simply don't have much more in me.

I feel like we're really close to losing it and I don't want that.  Granted we've only been married for almost three years, but we dated for two years before that, and we grew up together for fuck sake.  I don't know how to function without him in my life in some capacity and it would hurt too much to 'just be friends' at first.  Also, I am close with his family, it would be really hard to just drift off there.  Then there's my horse.  Then there's the fact that I'd be living alone with my dad, and that scares me too.

Yet despite all of this, I don't feel that I can just bow out and to accept all of his terms.  I don't feel it's fair.  But I also feel like if I try to stand my ground at all, it'll push him away and things will get worse anyway.  I don't know what the fuck to do.  I know I'm not happy though.  At all.  Ha, I even told him tonight that I feel like all I have are my animals, they're the only thing that seems to lift me up and make me happy anymore. 

How pathetic and sad is that?


del.icio.us Digg reddit StumbleUpon

Comments

  • simplyconfused said on Aug 19, 2009....
    Oh Hege =[  I wish I could give you a real hug.  **Hugglezz** but all I can do is give you a virtual one.  It will have to do for now.  In relationships, both people have to be trying, and working on things.  Your giving it your all and trying so so so hard.  Your husband however, takes the form of a brick wall.  As you have told me many times communication is key, it's necessary!  I don't know if your husband is in the loop or not, but I'm sure he's been told that you need communication.  Maybe he really just doesn't know what to say, how about show things through actions?  Like giving you a hug.  It's a fucking hug, grow up!  What kind of man can't give his wife a hug?  Maybe if they have problems with hugs, and face anxiety and such, then it's a little understandable.  Even so, you should be able to deal with that for a couple of seconds to hug your spouse or significant other.. Your husband has to step up for this to work.  You can't work for both parts of the relationship..  Hopefully he breaks through this silence.  That would be the best.  Good luck!
  • Hegemone said on Aug 19, 2009....
    Simply - Thank you, much needed hugs.  Yes, this is why it's so frustrating.  I tell him bluntly 'When I'm feeling like this, it would help if you would say this, this or this.' (insert specifics for each 'this').  I tell him bluntly, 'We have to talk, we will not get anywhere if we don't communicate, we will just sour.'  Yet nothing.  I asked him tonight, 'Well, I've done almost everything I can think of, so what's next, a bill board with instructions on every street you travel?  Maybe a chapter/reference book, or a manual, that you can refer to at such times?  How much more blatant and clear must I be?'  For the record, no, I will not commission a bill board, they're expensive ... and I won't write him a manual either, besides, he doesn't like to read, it'd become a paperweight.
  • CreativeWoman said on Aug 19, 2009....
    Hege,
    It's hard.  Isn't it?  I've had many of those feelings that you describe myself.  I know that hurt all too well.

    I think that under no circumstances should you be alone living in that house with your dad.  That's blunt, but that is a real gut feeling I have.

    It would seem that you and your husband have two very different styles of communicating.  I know he lacks in emotional support, but you really can't program him with the responses you need to hear.  That might have the opposite affect and make him pull away a bit.

    The cold hard fact is that 200 acres of farm ground will not support a family, let alone two or three.  I live on 160 acres and I know that it doesn't.  There has to be supplemental income.  You have to be a bigger farmer with lots of ground to make a nice comfortable living from that alone.  Insurance has to come from somewhere.  You have to carry it on yourselves and liability insurance for the farm.  None of that is cheap.

    I keep the books and I know that most of the money earned goes right back into the farm.  Ours makes enough to make the yearly farm payment and pay taxes. The rest is saved for the cycle of expenses that start over the next year.  The budget is very tight.

    I tell you this because if your husband doesn't want to worry about it, then don't waste your time with it.  It's really not worth placing the dreams of your future livelihood on 200 acres.

    Maybe this isn't what you wanted to hear, but I have to be straightforward with you.  I don't want you to live a life of disappointment.

    What is your husband's interaction like with your dad?  You don't say much about him helping get you out of there.  That's what I would be having him answer for.  If your marriage is going to work you first have to have a united front about standing on your own and getting out of there.

    Get away from your dad first.  Worry about the farm later. Better yet, let your FIL worry about the farm.  If he does nothing, then he does nothing.  You can't control it.  Your marriage may improve without all that negativity looming around you.

    I can't tell you whether or not to give up on your husband.  Only you know your heart.

    (((((Hugs)))))

    CW


  • Hegemone said on Aug 19, 2009....
    CW - Yes, it's a lot of hurt on my part, that I know of, right now.  I hate it, really I do.  I agree with your gut feeling, and it's mine too, that I literally can not live with my dad alone.  That's why I'm so worried about it.  It's just not a possibility, it's not safe.  Also, the only reason that I have blatantly told my husband things he can say is because of past conversations in which he's asked me 'Well, what kinds of things are you wanting me to say?' in a serious manner, because he had no clue.  At the time, but less and less now, I felt that it would be better to give him some ideas (although not 'these are the only things to say' things, just sort of examples) than to tell him 'I don't know, I think you should come up with it yourself.'  In a way, I blame myself for making things so damn easy for him.  I am an enabler in that way, or at least I was.  As of now, I'm petering out.  As far as the farm, well, you're right, I'm not worried about it.  I know the realities of it, but I just can't afford to care anymore.  What happens happens and I don't care.  I can't afford to think about what could be years and years in the future when I don't even know how to handle tomorrow.  So far as whether to give up or not, I'm still just not sure.  I don't want to, initially .... but I'm tired of this.
  • Lioness said on Aug 19, 2009....
    I don't have anything to say Hege, just wanna let you know I'm reading. I hope everything would turn out okay for both of you eventually.
  • Hegemone said on Aug 19, 2009....
    Lioness - Thank you, the support means a lot.  I don't know that things are going to be ok at all, it just seems to keep morphing into something worse.
  • pusscat said on Aug 20, 2009....
    I wish i could be there in person for you hun.  The hurt that I feel for you is almost overbearing.

    Nothing on this earth, not money or material, will ever be a suplement for emotional support.  That is one thing I do get from my husband, his support in everything I try to do.  He comes to comfort me when I cry and, although I'm not in love with him any more, that means a lot and gets me through some very tough times.

    I think you may already have the answer Hege darling as you seemed to almost answer yourself in this post without actually putting it in black and white.  How much more of this hurt can you take?  I'm here for you as best as I can be whatever happens.
  • CreativeWoman said on Aug 20, 2009....
    Hege,
    You are in such an impossible situation.  It just breaks my heart.  I'm always here for you.

    ((((Hugs))))

    CW
  • uniquely-ironic said on Aug 20, 2009....
    I'm not going to comment further than I've read this.  I'm obviously not good at relationships so I won't handicap you with my thoughts on it.
  • MsStar39 said on Aug 20, 2009....
    Hege I know you are hurt but I think your husband is to, he seems to be the strong silent type that can't talk about it.

    If he want you to make him out a list of things that he can work on, do that.

    Men do not like being pushed in a corner. You love him and he loves you and you can work this out.
  • princessbitch65 said on Aug 20, 2009....
    Hey Hegemone, I just thought I drop by to say that i'm listening and I am sorry that you are going through such a rough time. You've got friends here.
  • MissMimi said on Aug 20, 2009....
    I can't add much to what my wise friends Cdub and peecee have said.  I would only add that, I really hope that you two can work this out, but please don't do what I did -- which is, waste a lot of years hoping and wishing that things will get better.  You deserve to be happy. 
  • UnicornForm said on Aug 20, 2009....
    You think it may be something that you can do or something that shouldent be done at all?
     
    I dont have much else to add,maybe if i knew yall in real life i could help but untill then I can only hope that it all works out for the better. ((Hug)) 
  • wombat said on Aug 20, 2009....

    Just reading and here to say that I'm sorry you are going through this.  I didn't know things were at this serious point with you and your husband.  I wish I had some good advice, but all I would do if I started rambling is tell you my stories, and you don't need that.  I guess what you need is some deep thinking in a relaxed place....and to be sure of whatever you do?  It's hard to take some things back.  It's also hard to remain inactive when something needs to change.

    Big help, I am...huh?

    Sorry.  But will be thinking of you and come back to read whatever you decide to write about.

  • gingersoul said on Aug 20, 2009....
    Heggie.... i am not going to wait for anybody else comment and you can take what i am going to tell you and throw it away...it would be your right to do so...

    But after reading your posts and after kind of waiting for this one to be written (sorry, but it was only a matter of time) i have the impulse to tell you this......

    Run!

    You are slowly suffocating in that life. Save your horses and run for your own good.
    It will hurt like hell but it will not burn forever.

    You are too young to live in this way.
     
    Don't wait too long for him to change because it might weell never change...don't compromise too much your happines for his...he doesn't seem doing the same for you....don't be too nice or too patient...

    Love can live healthy and growing stronger only when you are healthy and strong.

    Luckily you don't have kids. So there is no obligation toward him. Only love can tie you down and make you stay.

    Do you love him so much to sacrifice so much of your youth, that will never come back?  {hugs}


  • MsBradford07 said on Aug 20, 2009....

    I am sorry to hear that you are having problems in your marriage and I wish I had some advice. Being a single woman who has never been married, I really don't have any experience in this situation. I will keep you and your husband in my thoughts. I will hope for the best.

  • mobil said on Aug 20, 2009....
    Geez what a fuckin mess Hege.
  • Hegemone said on Aug 20, 2009....
    PC - Thank you, and yes, that's what I want from my husband, just to know he supports me and my decisions, that when I'm upset and near tears, he can come to me and hug me just to make me feel better.  I don't know what I'd do without this place.

    CW - Thank you, it does wonders for me to know that.

    Uni - I understand, just knowing you're there and reading is good enough for me.  :-)

    MsStar - I know he hurts too, and I want us to work through this, so we will see how it goes.

    Princess - Thank you for the support.

    MiMi - Thank you, I am so thankful to have made the friends here that I have.  I'm taking things into consideration in a much different light now, so we shall see where things wind up.  I may not like it, but it'll be better in the long run ... depending on how things go anyway.

    UF - It's a lot of things really.

    Wombie - Just knowing you're out there and that you care helps loads.  Also, yes, I'm realizing I think I really do need to go off by myself somewhere for a while and just think and feel and decide what needs to happen, or how I want to handle things.

    Ginge - You are right, I don't need to stay in a situation that is not good for me and that there is no way to know whether things will change without just staying and risking years of misery.  It's going to be a tough decision to make, but I'm milling over it and I nearly can't help but feel like I'm preparing to run.  I just haven't admitted it to myself yet, I think.

    MsBradford - Thank you for keeping us in your thoughts.

    Mobil - No kidding right?
  • Psych-ed said on Aug 24, 2009....
    Oh Hege I know how you feel, my husband and I went through the exact same thing. Sorry but i'm not any good for giving advice right now but here's a big {{{{{{HUG}}}}}}}.
  • Hegemone said on Aug 24, 2009....
    Psych - Thank you.  :-)
  • wombat said on Aug 24, 2009....
    Saying Hi and wondering how you are.....
  • Hegemone said on Aug 24, 2009....
    Wombie - Little better now, that's for sure.

Comment on "I Don't Know What To Think"

marriage relationship realtionship pain sad crying (Click to add tags below)

(Separate tags using commas, for example: New York, dating, vegetarian)

It had to happen eventually....
That sometimes holds my baby....
....its starting to look like that is not in the stars for me....
This is a news story from the mid 1980s. I could find out nothing more about this couple.

I find the restrictions put on them about selling the story interesting. When has a judge ever done such a thing to a male pedo?...
Guess who called me for the first time during my lunch time? Yeah, he did. I was at the drive through getting ready to buy my mini hot fudge cake. I've found you can eat those only for lunch and actually lose weight. I normally call him after I've h...