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Has anyone noticed that people’s grammar is getting worse? And spelling, eloquence and penmanship. Its sad, the art of prose seems to be dying a death - cheers sky TV.

Anyway, I was texting (since when did the word "text" become a verb?!?!) a friend, and he asked if I had told his ex-partner where he worked. Incidentally, I had, and told him that I did tell her because she seemed curious, and seeing as I know her pretty well, I knew her question was innocent and that she wasn’t going to make any problems for him in his new job. He replied “no worrie’s”.

I’ve noticed it getting worse and worse too, especially in the past few years. I remember once being surprised to see that a greengrocer had written “grape’s”, where he meant “grapes”, and I decided to pretend to not notice because I thought that everyone else had noticed and nobody wanted to embarrass him, maybe he was a little slow. That year was 2002.

Its amazing how common this mistake is. Do people just not know HOW to use an apostrophe?

Actually, soulcasters seem to all be pretty good with penmanship and grammar, I suppose this is because we view the written word as a hobby.

Anyway, I’d like to write out the correct use of the apostrophe, for anyone who doesn’t know about this grammatical symbol within our language that pre-dates us all. Maybe people who missed it were busy watching ‘Animals do the funniest things’ in H.D or something.

Use number one - implying ownership with a noun.

This is much simpler than it sounds - lets use my name, Seer, as the noun, and to make another noun belong to me we use the apostrophe an S after the noun. Easy, just like in the sentence “the red ball is Seer’s”, or “Seer’s house”, or “Seer’s long, rambling blog about nonsense” .

When doing the above with a noun ending in the letter S, we need an example word - I’m going to use Charles - its acceptable to write the apostrophe after the S or to add another S altogether and put an apostrophe before it, so we can write either “Charles’ hat” or “Charles’s hat”. Both are correct and have the same meaning.

Use number two - to ‘stick’ words together

Easier than it sounds. Lets take the long winded “it is” and shorten it. “It is” becomes “It’s” (which is confusing because that can mean plural of the word ‘it’). Or lets shorten “I would” to “I’d”. Or “have not” to “haven’t”.

Use three - to show relationships of description

The easiest way to explain is to show examples - “a hot summers’ day” or “three hours’ walk”.

Use four - as quotation marks

Because we don’t have a separate quotation mark on the keyboard, but many people in handwriting choose to make a distinction.

Use five - to show plural numbers and individual letters

If using capital letters this tends to be omitted and reinforced with lower-case letters. Lets say we are playing scrabble, and I only have cards with the letter T on them, I could use “I only have T’s”, or I could say “I only have Ts”, and when written its usually up to the author. With lower-case its almost essential, as in if I were to say “I only have t’s”, the apostrophe is essential because otherwise it becomes “ts” which could confuse the reader (especially if I’m using a letter like I, which, when not separated from a S without an apostrophe becomes another word, for example, “i’s” become “is”.

Also to avoid confusion when referring to plural numbers, “1980’s” looks a lot less confusing than “1980s”, and might be read as “nineteen-eighty S” or “one, nine, eight, zero, S”.

Use six - Old/Poetic English

Which is now rarely used but you may come across this in books pre dating the 1900’s, which shows the pronounced removal of letters, in words like “o’er” (to mean “over”), and ne’er (to mean “near“), or just o’ (to mean “of”, as in “cat of nine tails is a nasty whip”, becomes “cat o’ nine tails is a nasty whip”).

This is still prevailing in modern language, “fucking” becomes “fuckin’” and “because” can become “’cause”, “fish and chips” becomes “fish ’n chips” and so on.

And an afterthought - the word “it”

We can have “it is” shortened to “it’s” (as in “it’s going to blow!!”), or “its” to mean plural of “it”, or to imply ownership or descriptive relationship to (“It’s feet” or “It’s maiden voyage”).

Any other suggestions/corrections for my use of the apostrophe please don’t hesitate to comment, I have no qualifications in the English language, so what I have just written could be a load of fuckin’ shite.

And how long before someone says “hey Seer, I’ve got another use for your apostrophe, shove it up your arse, you limey fag” or something similar :-D



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  • Hegemone said on Jul 31, 2009....
    Heh, yeah that's one of my pet peeves.  I get it for the most part when people mix up stuff like it's and its, but grapes and grape's?  Come on now.  
  • pusscat said on Jul 31, 2009....
    Oh, my word.  I hate bad grammar so I have no qualms about a post dedicated to it :-)

    The only thing I will say is there is just a little correction.  When, in Scrabble, saying, "I have no Ts", you can not use an apostrophe.  If an apostrophe is used you would be referring to something belonging to T.  For example, T's hair looks good today.  It makes no odds whether T is just a letter or a person or an animal, putting the apostrophe there still pertains to belonging.  Sorry hun.  I know what you're thinking here, how can we then write in scrabble, "I have no ts", basically, you can't ha ha!  Seriously, you have to use the capital for clarification of your meaning.  See, I can be boring too LMFAO!  My fave subject, English although I have forgotten more than I remember.  Again, if you want to say you have more than one of those, you would have to write/type, "I have lots of Ts". 

    It's the same with years also.  For example, again pertaining to belonging to; "the 1980's fashion was fantastic!"  The fashion belonged to that year.  If I am just saying I like the 1980s then no apostrophe is required as the 1980s spanned 10 years so I am just referring to the plural - no apostrophe.  Hope I'm not losing anyone yet. . . God, am I being pedantic or what?? 

    I'm figuring that seer has had a few tokes or 10 or 11 or 12 ha ha and I'm feeling like I just snorted 2 lines of wizz with these meds LOL!  Already did 40 minutes solid exercise but still hyper weh hay!!
  • seer said on Jul 31, 2009....
    hahaha lol.
     
    Well like I said I am no professor of English, and all I have to go on is general awareness of the language and what I remember from GCSE English.
     
    I'll wiki it, that'll sort this out.
  • seer said on Jul 31, 2009....

    Wiki had no answer to our debate, but Microsoft Works Word Processor did, under the Dictionary lookup tap. Microsoft agrees with me. But microsoft is AMERICAN. They can't spell colour or know the meaning of the words lift, boot, chip or any words longer than their attention span (just joking yanks!), so I guess that's your point puss, as we're debating English not American.

    The Apostrophe Protection Society (seriously, google it!) had a massive FAQ board, but nothing on what we were discussing. I was going to join and send in this spirited debate, but then I realised they would probably mock my megre intellect in Latin, which would confuse me 'cause I'm Welsh. 

    I admit defeat to puss :) 

  • pusscat said on Jul 31, 2009....
    OMG, I would admit defeat to you hun after you made me laugh that bloody much - you know when you laugh so hard your tummy hurts and no more sound comes out of your mouth! !

    So, you're a Welsh boyo then?. . .not piss taking I promise, I'm part Irish and from the poor part of Ireland at that ha ha!  I won't brag in any way shape or form that I was O level English (not sure what that is in today's exams) ooh there's that lil ol apostrophe hee hee!

    You ought to read the book 'Eats, shoots and leaves'.  She is the mamma of the big fight for grammar.  English too ha ha!
  • seer said on Jul 31, 2009....

    Nothing wrong with Wales!! Feel free to take the piss, I do. Better than being English, where Liverpool, Manchester, Shaftesbury, Portsmouth and Blackpool are.

    Arn't you going to look for the APS, where you can read the caption "here we can see multiple apostrophe abuse. This must be stopped."

    Can you IMAGINE sitting next to that man at dinner parties?

  • travelr712 said on Jul 31, 2009....
    yes we can, it's spelled 'color' (notice the correct use of apostrophies?)
     
    lift is what you do to pick up a ball
    boot is what you put on your foot
    chip is what splinters off when you chop wood
    my attention span is as long as antidisestablishmentarianism
    if you type a word into the google search window on the top of your IE7 browser, it will return a whole page of examples of spelling, making it the fastest, easiest dictionary ever created by humans. :-)
  • DaddysLittleSlut said on Jul 31, 2009....
    Well if you think you're boring.. don't fall asleep 'cause I actually have this bookmarked.  Its a US Government Printer's Style Guide.  THE RULE BOOK


    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/multidb.cgi
    See here for apostrophe rules.. :( I know I'm a geek
  • pusscat said on Jul 31, 2009....
    trav babes - I am glad you joined us - always good to see you hun!  I remember when antidisestablishmentarianism was the longest word in our English dictionary.  It was around that time, when I was 15 that I used to pick up fag nubs off the floor at bus stops to break them all open into a box and make enough bacci for a whole fag ha ha ha!  I KNOW you and seer will so get that ha ha!
  • pusscat said on Jul 31, 2009....
    PS - I hafta agree babe that some of the USA terms are soooo right!  Fries - yeah they are fried!  Side-walk is a walk to the side of the road.  Bless our cousins over there - were same family so no arguing now children hee hee
  • Lucytorial said on Jul 31, 2009....
    Trav ~ Sorry honey, but the correct english spelling of that word is COLOUR, not color... color is like saying colar only you pronounce it differently.
     
    Americanised spelling really gets my goat up.
  • travelr712 said on Jul 31, 2009....
    you too pc, i still follow your blog, even if i haven't been commenting much lately. and yes, i understand what you're saying, but fag has an entirely different meaning in america too :-)
     
    i'm sure the french hated when the english changed the spelling from colur too lu, and the italians hated it when the french changed it from colorem, but here's the thing. american english is the current language of international diplomacy, so that makes us right ;-P
  • Lucytorial said on Jul 31, 2009....
    No it doesn't make it right it makes it lazy in my eyes.  There are so many words changed... go to the Macquarie dictionary and you will see that it is the standard world over.
     
    Italian language and English language are closer than americanisms.  Its true and you know it so nAHHHH
  • travelr712 said on Jul 31, 2009....
    my point is that the spelling was originally latin, then french before it was english and then american lu, so change of spelling is inevitable. besides, i still have your panties, so nyah back to ya! ;-P
  • Lucytorial said on Jul 31, 2009....
    te he he he okay I understand what you are saying.  ALL I am saying is that Americans made English a lazy language.  That my friend is a true statement.
     
    As for my panties... I bet you got them on your head right?
  • pusscat said on Jul 31, 2009....
    You know what guys??  I am pissed as a newt and going to bed but read this.

    This is SOULCAST.  We all live here and we have our own language.  It is Italian, French, USA - North, Middle, South, Canada, Australia, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, African - South and North, New Zealand, Philapines, India and all the ones my pissed brain won't think of right now :-)  Naaah - it's Soulcast language and we do all right with everyone here :-)  Off to bed got to!!!!
  • travelr712 said on Jul 31, 2009....
    well, since it was actually the mixing of spelling and pronounciation of the different words by the french, english, irish, chinese, german, etc. imigrants and the previous asian and european imigrants that were called 'natives' by that time who settled on the dictionary spelling of the american language, it was actually the world culture that derived the language. i do believe it is misnamed english though, and it should be properly named american. they are similar, but not the same language.
     
    and yes, i wear them like ear muffs ;-D
  • travelr712 said on Jul 31, 2009....
    interestingly enough, i was writing my comment when pc posted hers, so i didn't see hers until after i posted mine, and they were pretty much saying the same thing. wierd, huh?
  • Lucytorial said on Jul 31, 2009....
    I'm not backing down from this, you arogant SOB *-} Admit it that the american english is LAZY!
     
    Do they still smell?
  • travelr712 said on Jul 31, 2009....
    me? arogant? naaaahhhhh! besides, i can't admit to something that just ain't true!
     
    still smell? hold on, lemee check...
  • Lucytorial said on Jul 31, 2009....
    tee he he you are so sad... :-}
     
    yes you are arrogant, in a really nerdy kind of way.  But I don't expect anything lesser of you Trav.
  • seer said on Jul 31, 2009....

    Chill lucy!

    Trav, I was only messing about. My stepmum is a yank, whos intellect is far superior to mine, she speaks three modern languages, and is learning Welsh (which only a handful of people speak anyway).

    I read something once about the American language, and if you read a colonial American book (IE diary from a pioneer) the spelling and vocabulary are identical. American English, as opposed to British English, seems to include 'new' words, as in words that were invented to cope with new inventions, such as the boot/trunk of a car, or a 'sidewalk'.

    I have no idea about the color thing, but if you program HTML its color, if your English its colour.

    Sadly, I feel the greatest bastardisation of the English language is in England - how often have you heard double negatives (I ain't got no job, innit), and dropped Ts (Nathan becoming Naffan) and such?

  • Lucytorial said on Jul 31, 2009....
    Ohh seer you are so right.  I have always tried to maintain what my grandparents taught me about speach.
     
    Pronunciation is mana.  I am often pegged for a british expat due to my pronunciation of certain words.
     
    I am slack myself with certain things however, I do prefer to keep my grammer correct.
  • seer said on Jul 31, 2009....
    Yeah. Thanks Lucy, are you American?
     
    Unfortunately, due to learning difficulties my spelling isn't too accurate, which is unfortunate because I'd like to carry on the proud family tradtion of being a predantic arsehole.
  • travelr712 said on Jul 31, 2009....
    i know you were joking seer. and don't worry about lu and i, we banter like this all the time. we've actually been having a secret love affair that nobody ever talks about, including us, it's all just in our minds. pretty wicked, huh? ;-D
     
    it's color in html because html was created by americans. if england would have created the language, it would have been colour.
     
    i think the worst basterdization of the language has come from the under 30's texting. you should see how terribly some of the people i go to school with write. no grammer, attrocious spelling, terribly formed ideas, improper puncuation and lousy format. most of them wouldn't know how to form a paragraph if it bit them on the ass! and all because the rules about requiring proper writing have been so relaxed in schools here that students just don't know, or care, how to write, and because the spelling of words has changed drastically in the last 5 years due to texting.
  • seer said on Jul 31, 2009....
    Yeah, I agree m8 blaits.
     
    You see I have a tendancy to not text, I prefer voicemail. And if I do text I use T9 and make a point of not having any 'text speak' in my dictionary. Sometimes when I get heavily-coded messages I do have to phone whoever sent it to me to get clarification.
     
    What ever happened to manners as well? Or being cultured? Once I broke up with a girl for texting during dinner, which was some fish dish served with a chilled glass of........... PEPSI!!!. But that's the NORM now. Holding doors, offering girls your jacket, multiple knives and forks, pouring a guest's drink before you own, I find it wonderful and somehow quaint.
     
    Luckily I feel that a lot of my friends, even though we're all poor, haven't lost that. Still offering the house guests a large, strong spliff after a meal, that sort of thing. But I think modern manners have evolved slightly, like I went round a mate's the other night, and he said 'yeah you're welcome over, but I'm a little broke.....' and I cut him off and said 'oh don't worry, its probably my turn to get the drinks anyway!'. I suppose manners evolve from good natured behaviour and must move with the times... Anyway, I'm ranting, thoughts Trav?
  • gingersoul said on Jul 31, 2009....
    Seer..... good grammar for me is plain sexy....;-) .
  • travelr712 said on Jul 31, 2009....
    manners is something that many of the younger generation here has also left behind. the crude way that some of the guys in this town speak about women in public makes me want to slap them sometimes. they would laugh if you suggested they open a door or offer a coat, and call you a pussy. i think the wrap culture that sold all the middle class midwest white boys on a glitzed up version of 'ghetto' is the culpret there.
  • simplyconfused said on Jul 31, 2009....
    I know my apostrophes ^_^  I mess up with there, their, they're.. yeah XD  My excuse is I'm not done of school and don't have all of my english classes. =p
  • Lucytorial said on Jul 31, 2009....
    Seer no I am an Australian, pronounced thus:
     
    Awe-stral-eean
     
    But its okay I have dyslexia so it makes me try harder. I also agree with Ginger, good grammer is sexy.
  • fragglesrock said on Jul 31, 2009....

    good post seer. the older i get the less i remember where those floaty comma looking things go ;) you CRACKED me about people watching animals do the funniest things!!!!

    @ trav....wrap???? like wrappers? is there an underground group of wrappers who get together at night and wrap stuff? are you saying snoop dog is a wrapper as in gift wrapper? sorry, can't get past this one!

  • D6fer said on Jul 31, 2009....
    I am definitely grammatically challenged! Thank god for spell check and firefox. Although, it always underlines contractions when I use them. Pisses me off! I am already confused enough.....I don't need the added grief!
  • one_wired_kitty said on Jul 31, 2009....
    So - uh - what's a "Dangling Participle"???
     
    (really - I have NO freaking idea)
  • travelr712 said on Jul 31, 2009....
    you got me there fraggs :-)
     
    here's a good article on what a dangling participle is owk:
  • pusscat said on Aug 01, 2009....
    Ah ha!  The double negative is one of my all time pet hates!!  "I haven't got nothing", Aaaaaarrrrgh! Well, if you haven't got nothing then you must have something - do they get it when I say that??  Do they heck as like. 

    seer - hubby and I were just talking about the f instead of th just last night before you did this post - weird huh?  I mean, ok, I'll give it to the real Cockneys, they have been brought up generation after generation speaking like that but anyone living anywhere else has no god damned excuse for saying, "I fink".  I want to wring the scrawny little neck of anyone speaking like that.  I'm not posh by anyone's standards, oh lordy no, I'm from Nottingham and if you know England you will KNOW that sure aint posh ha ha!  I just use the letters of the alphabet where they are meant to be used.
  • seer said on Aug 01, 2009....
    Trav - I've NEVER had anyone say I'm a pussy for holding open a door or anything like that. And I know what you mean about the way guys treat women. Unfortunately, whenever I see something really bad I tend to get involved.....
     
    Ginger and Lucytorial - Grammar is SEXY?! Now that's a sentance you don't hear every day. Personally I find solving differential equasions hot.....mmmmmm....... (ha I just had a mental image of shouting "punctuate me, oh yes, use your big hard exlaimation mark on my double inverted commas!" in bed....)
     
    I'd just like to say I love the responce from this blog. Its great to see how many people don't care! I really was expecting about five or six people to call me a "FAG" or a "douce" and for that to be it!!
  • seer said on Aug 01, 2009....
    Trav - I've NEVER had anyone say I'm a pussy for holding open a door or anything like that. And I know what you mean about the way guys treat women. Unfortunately, whenever I see something really bad I tend to get involved.....
     
    Ginger and Lucytorial - Grammar is SEXY?! Now that's a sentance you don't hear every day. Personally I find solving differential equasions hot.....mmmmmm....... (ha I just had a mental image of shouting "punctuate me, oh yes, use your big hard exlaimation mark on my double inverted commas!" in bed....)
     
    I'd just like to say I love the responce from this blog. Its great to see how many people don't care! I really was expecting about five or six people to call me a "FAG" or a "douce" and for that to be it!!
  • hotaka said on Aug 01, 2009....
    I'm glad to read this post. I have always wondered whether to write Jones's or Jones' and 80s or 80's.

    I was a bit puzzled by the plural "its". How many its are there? There are five its. Maybe, there are three its in that sentence. ???

    "Its" when used as the possessive shouldn't use an apostrophe. "Its fur is black and its teeth are long."

    I was just reading through the comments and I see the old spelling debate came up again. Let me tell you now. Correct spelling is "shoppe", "auld", "toyle", "divers", "bothe", "halfe" and "sayling". Of course, it depends what century we're talking about.

    But seriously, didn't Americans try to change the spelling of words to be closer to their modern day phonetic sound about a hundred years ago? I heard that there was a commission or something to change the spelling of words in the U.S. but it was abandonned before they got very far.
  • seer said on Aug 01, 2009....
    Wow this has caused more of a stur than the Abortion blog!!
  • hotaka said on Aug 01, 2009....
    Oh, I forgot to mention something. Students of English as a second or foreign language get confused with these two sentences:

    He's done his homework.
    He's doing his homework.
  • superbozo said on Aug 01, 2009....

    I've never been that good at grammer till recently. Being a wide boy cockney it just seemed wrong to write it proper, if I didn't say it proper :)

    As long as I can understand the writing, I tend to overlook grammer. I've also found since coming here, I will spell some words in the American way, and some the good ol' English way. I've also noticed that I've tried my hardest to punctuate properly in this comment.

    :P

  • Imalovernotawriter said on Aug 01, 2009....
    I'm English.

    It's all about communicating... yes, there's a 'polite, educated' way and a 'vulgar, ignorant way', with lots of shades in between... but if I understand what the other person is saying and if it's a good point, then I'm not going to slag him off for having a black mark or two in the wrong place (and this from a guy who sends texts with all capitals, spelling and punctuation 'just so').

    But language creates an impression. In this environment where I will not (as in real life) be judged by my accent, I do my best to present myself as an educated, thoughtful, responsible and sensible person... which involves careful use of all the tools available, including grammar, punctuation and spelling. And I admit (phew, starting a sentence with 'but' and 'and' is really brave of me) to judging others who do not do so, despite trying my hardest not to... well, if I turn up in a clean,ironed shirt and you're standing there with breakfast all down your crumpled, slept-in T shirt, who looks the most credible?

    So, I'm a bit of a snob (despite my humble, working-class background), but try not to be (and there's the word 'class', perhaps the hub of all this comment).

    I wrote a poem about apostrophes... it's here:
    www.soulcast.com/post/show/220497/'postrophe
    I think that link should work...

    And don't forget that 'American English' is not English - it's a foreign language, just as surely as Americans are foreigners to our shores. Their culture feigns to be ours because of the similar language, but it is not ours and this fact is confusing to both our children and our weak-minded adolescents.

    av a gr8 day y'all
  • pusscat said on Aug 01, 2009....
    Ima - my old friend, how lovely to see you here :-))  I had to laugh at the starting a sentence with 'and' or 'but' as I remember having that drummed into me at school ha ha!

    Funny you should mention your poem cos last night that's exactly what I thought of but then silly me went and forgot to mention it dooh!

    U av a gr8 day 2 hee hee :-*  :-*
  • seer said on Aug 01, 2009....
    *boke* what on earth does that bottom line mean?
  • gingersoul said on Aug 01, 2009....
    Imalover.....I completely agree with you.
    Communication is impression and language is its perfect tool.
     
    That's why i say that grammar is sexy, Seer.
    Because, sex is communication as well, and its a media to express feelings and needs. Just like grammar.
    For me, there is nothing more sexy than a man who uses his grammar as a sword or a feather or a caress, a smile or a knife. Or a kiss.


    Like Imo, my accent in RL is often in the way when i communicate.
    People is often  distracted by it. Yes, they do love it, sometimes for me is an annoying obstacle though.

    English is NOT my mother language (I am Italian) and I can guarantee you that if you would read something i write in my language you wouldn't find all the mistake i make when i write in English.
    It pains me greatly.

    I constantly strive to do my best because it stings not being able to express myself in the correct way.

    Also, I grew up learning the English of the Queen. Then i moved here in the Us and i had to learn American..:-)
    American is a bastard language, a boiling cauldron of so many languages melted together. What to expect when a nation has been created by the crumbs of other nations? Same thing happened with the English spoken in other "leftover" countries, after all. Purity is left at the borders...lol...

    This mixture is also the reason why American is so versatile and fluid and adjustble. And so easy to be deturped and distorted.

    The new generation is growing completely immerse in this no-grammatical culture, thank to bad rappers, infamous commercials, the devastating presence of television.
    I cringe when i read my daugther's messages on her My Space, her phone textes are uncomprenhesible and she admits her inability of spelling some words. And she reads BOOKS (people, can you believe?) and she is in LEAP, a special class for advanced and gifted students.
    I wonder about the grammar of her classmates....

    I admit of being a snob, like Imo....;-)
    After all, in coming from the Old World, with my Latin and Ancient Greek studies, endless hours of grammar homeworks ....i can be excused...lol..

    Language is like the air we breathe. What people expresses in theirs songs, poems, messages is what they dream, hope and want. Its their reality.
    We shouldn't judge them for what they come form.
    We should praise them for trying to raise from it. 

    Seer.......the bottom line means: You have a great day too.....you definetely dont text much, i see.....lol.....L8.


  • D6fer said on Aug 01, 2009....
    uh....pusscat....it's "I ain't got nothing"  not "I haven't got nothing"...sheesh!
  • pusscat said on Aug 01, 2009....
    D6fer - ha ha, are you pulling my long, slender leg my friend?. . That actually means the same thing, I ain't is the same but further evolved slang for I haven't.  Have to say though, I ain't got nothing gets used more now than anything else doesn't it?  Has such a quaint ring to it.

    seer - something I meant to say way back near the beginning of this post is that language, no matter what country can be one of the most facinating subjects.  I have sat and watched the quizz show, 'Eggheads', where there is a question about the meaning of a word.  Given the usual 3 choices I usually get the word questions right purely by logic of the beginning of a word or the very end of a word as it will have the same meaning in Latin, French, Italian etc.  Words are as facinating as numbers to me but I also agree with Ima and ginger that good grammar is very sexy.  When I am texting with Charles (a Dom friend of mine) he insists on using proper grammar and no text abbreviations.
  • D6fer said on Aug 01, 2009....
    actually...it's more like "ain't got nothin' "......and......did you say long slender leg?....uh...er....um.....hmmmm [ walks off dazed and confused ]
  • seer said on Aug 01, 2009....

    Ginger - I think English spoken with a romance language accent is VERY sexy, but not as sexy as the romance lanugage itself!

    That's the one way to make a beautiful girl even more appealing, teach her Spanish, Italian or French....mmmm...... Especially if she's smoking and drinking wine, preferably sat on top of a Ducati 999.....

    As I'm sure you can imagine its hard for me to find pornography....

    Puss - I find most things that are vaguely engaging interesting, religion, philosophy, politics, wine, food, history, languages. Every night my brother and I watch QI on Dave! Worryingly, we're both starting to get some right, and last week I actually corrected Steven Fry about a little know fact about red squirrels, he said they only found on the Isle of White, and some in the Hebridies, but they're also on an island in poole harbour called Brownsea Island, which, worryingly I've noticed has no border control to stop chavs killing them through introducing grey ones. Chavs probably arn't that clever, but still, I fear for them!

  • pusscat said on Aug 01, 2009....
    Hubby and I watch QI religiously lol!  Even the repeats of the repeats are so bloody funny with Jonathan Creak.  In fact, i'm quizz mad; Eggheads, Divided, Weakest Link, The fuse and not forgetting as it is still a quizz of a kind, Mock the Week.
  • pusscat said on Aug 01, 2009....
    Aaw D6fer - come back my friend and I promise not to tell you how nice my new very sheer and shiney black stockings look ;-)  
  • moonriver said on Aug 02, 2009....
    ¡pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ oʇ pǝuǝddɐɥ ƃuoɹʍ ʎןqıɹɹǝʇ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos ʇnq 'sǝɥdoɹʇsodɐ ʇnoqɐ uoıssnɔsıp s,ʎɐpoʇ uıoɾ oʇ ǝʞıן p,ı
  • gingersoul said on Aug 02, 2009....
    Moon...how in the heck did you do THAT???

    You know.....sometimes you do scare me.....;-p

     
  • one_wired_kitty said on Aug 02, 2009....
    D00d ... how'd you do that, moon?
  • pusscat said on Aug 03, 2009....
    Moon - I'm beginning to think it isn't the keyboard that has something terribly wrong with it lol!!
  • moonriver said on Aug 03, 2009....
    ˙ssǝןǝdoɥ s,ʇı ˙ʇɐɥʇ ǝʞıן uǝǝq sʎɐʍןɐ s,puıɯ ʎɯ 
    ˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɹıɐdǝɹ oʇ ʎɹʇ ʇsɐǝן ʇɐ uɐɔ ı ʇnq ˙ʍouʞ ı -- ʇɐɔssnd

    ˙sdıʇ „ɹǝɯɯɐɹƃ ʎxǝs„ s,ɹǝǝs ʍoןןoɟ oʇ ƃuıʎɹʇ ʇsnɾ sɐʍ ı 
    ˙pǝuǝddɐɥ ʇı ʍoɥ ǝɹns ʇou ɯ,ı -- ʎʇʇıʞ pǝɹıʍ

    ¡ʇɐɔʎpǝɹɐɔs -- ɹǝƃuıƃ

  • pusscat said on Aug 03, 2009....
    You are a naughty boy Mr moon ha ha!  Scary thing is how darned easy I find it reading the upside down writing lol!
  • moonriver said on Aug 03, 2009....
    ¿uʍop ǝpısdn ɹǝıxǝs sı ɹɐɯɯɐɹƃ ʞuıɥʇ noʎ
    ¡ʇɐɔssnd ssıɯ 'unɟ ןɐǝɹ ǝq oʇ ƃuıʇʇǝƃ sı sıɥʇ ¡ʎǝɥ

  • pusscat said on Aug 03, 2009....
    Well, Mr moon, there are a lot of things that can be fun upside down ;-)  Thing is, you will need to be careful or you will only attract nutters like me ha ha!
  • Lucytorial said on Aug 03, 2009....
    BWAA HA HA HA Moon you are so damn cheeky!
     
    Seer, see this is what I mean, a man who can play with words like that? whoo hoooo punctuate me now! LOL
  • k666 said on Aug 03, 2009....
    Seriously. It boggles my mind when I see college students writing stuff like, "Their applying to grad school's next year."
  • gingersoul said on Aug 03, 2009....
    Moon.....oh, but i completely understood this one.....too easy this time...;-)
  • hotaka said on Aug 03, 2009....
    You can't fault Americans for thinking that they speak correct English. Ever watch the movie "Snatch?" A British guy says, "First we have to find who blagged the bookies." And the American next to him says, "Blagged? Speak English. You guys spawned the fuckin' language; how come no one hear can speak it?"

    Each generation has its own way to despoil the greatness of its mother tongue.
  • seer said on Oct 31, 2009....
    Hotaka, that is a very good point, but they arn't speaking English, they are speaking Cockney, a dialect of English. Like Glaswegian, or Geordie, its not really 'The Queens English', its very strong local slang, basically.
     
    I'm a chef, and I work for a large hotel which is part of a chain. In all the record keeping books, in the whole company, there is a gramatical error - "Chill well's and Saladette's must be temperature probed twice a day...".
     
    Twice a day this makes me CRINGE!

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